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as I've said before, farside only acknowledges stuff if or when it's convenient for her
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@farside
note: your entire argument that i'm scum for avoiding scum lynches is baseless unless you can provide a reasonable answer to this question, so you may want to answer it unless you're absolutely fine with everyone continuing to ignore youIn post 1297, Parama wrote:
okay, riddle me this:In post 1283, farside22 wrote:I was right there with aristo and cakez, your ignoring obvious scum on neither wagon, which kills me the most.
as scum, why would i intentionally leave myself off the aristo wagon, when there's a blatant guilty on him and easy bussing credit to grab?ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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VOTE: farside22
alright. so you're useless if you're town, and you're useless if you're scum. i give you the opportunity to at least act like you care, but you clearly don't. you very dearly do not care. you literally just called me scum, then votedsomeone completely different. hon, if Rach is scum like you're asserting, my post is not wifom bs from scum like you claim it is.
and no. you can't go "but i scumread you" because that's not where your vote is now. you have literally no excuse.
so i fall back to my argument of "farside doesn't care about finding scum in the slightest" because, well, obviously that's blatantly true and you're practically making the argument for me. screw whatever else you've done that makes you look a little town. it's just, irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. screw the aristo vote. screw your suicidal death tunnel. those are pebbles compared to the out of control boulder of terrible that your play has been this game. i do think you're scum. i genuinely cannot rationalize a townie having the mindset you constantly display in this game. but on the off chance you're not, you're absolutely worthless to the town anyways.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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You can scumread us both, that's fine.
But if Rach is scum. I'm not. It's that simple, unless you think there's 4 mafia somehow.
If you are voting Rach, that reads as "I currently think Rach is the most likely scum".
Yet. You're using your scumread on me as an excuse to avoid a pretty damning question to your case. While putting your money elsewhere.
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If eager asked you the same question, would you answer? You've done it before
If ckd, kuribo, or hell, Gear asked you the same question, would you answer? Probably, because you have to appease them. I know you don't have to appease me.
But if you're playing just to appease people. You're simply not town.
A: If you are town. Answering the question can only help your case. Right? Make it clearer to the town why I'm scum, get people to see your point of view better? What's the loss of answering it?
B: If you are scum, you don't have a good answer, most likely. Or you don't care enough to try and BS one. And since I asked it, you can dismiss it and nobody bats an eye. Nobody to appease.
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what more can i say other than at this pointIn post 1361, farside22 wrote:
For weaker reason she then last time.In post 1360, eagerSnake wrote:I see Parama is still scumreading farside
Most likely because he's scum and he hates I won't let it go that I see through his crap.
@ckd: sure, there could be a SK, but that's irrelevant to this argument, because both of farside's scumreads are heavily based on association tells with the flipped mafia. again. i'm not saying it's wrong to have two scumreads. i'm saying that, yet again, farside has contradicted herself trying to dodge a damning question.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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pretty sure this was a correction to 1364, "invite" was supposed to be "unvote"In post 1367, StrangerCoug wrote:In post 1366, curiouskarmadog wrote:UnvoteDoesn't count. Not in bold.
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oh yeah,V/LA 10/13 to 10/15
i'm basically only going to be phoneposting for the next few days 'cause i'm hitting concerts three nights in a row and i'm not inclined to be thinking too hard about this game right now
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at this point the quieter crowd is composed of eager and UT.
and i don't think either are scum.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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just saying, but nobody else seemed to have a problem doing soIn post 1372, Gear wrote:
How should I have been able to distinguish you posting your ideas, from you posting things you think Grey is thinking?In post 1341, RachMarie wrote:Way to misrep me gear.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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yeah, sorry for using my brain to point out the obviousShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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VOTE: Gear
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now you're just taking the piss. i already asked mod the same exact question, word-for-word and he didn't answer it there. the hell was the point of even asking again? it just seems like you knew snake was gonna be rbed. which, honestly, isn't that hard to predict, but why would you even do this to begin with? absolutely baffling.In post 1418, farside22 wrote:@Mod: could a lone mafia member perform both their factional kill and their role action? (for example, roleblocker)
anyways. massclaim is fine by me.
Vt. shocking I know.
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oh and full disclosure for disclosure's sake, the biggest reason i hammered gear was bcuz i didn't want to have to think about this game for a few days. i mean, aside from that he was one of the two people who had any chance of flipping scum fmpov.
now there's only one person. so, yeah. no more doubts. deathtunnel til the end baby
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there's been no consistent death flavor at all.
n1: "blown up", "bludgeoned"
n2: "shot"
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the part that pisses me off the most is that you literally used the same wording as meIn post 1432, farside22 wrote:I wanted to see if the mod missed the question.
I see nothing wrong with asking.
also, you made this post.
piss off with your hypocritical crap, honestly.In post 1432, farside22 wrote:Explained.
Just felt like it was a soft claim and I missed some of the back and forth dialog.
Plus he asked if scum could do both a PR and kill, it reads like he is ready to try to fake claim at this point.
like, you can't criticize me for something and then turn around and.literally.do the exact same goddamn thing
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because you knew the wagon would flip town and did everything in your power to avoid it because it'd look bad on you? y'know??? you never gave any valid reasons for gear not being scum, just kept screaming "parama and rach are on the wagon so he must be town"In post 1433, farside22 wrote:I also wasn't on the wagon that just lynched town.
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like you keep acting so goddamn high and mighty like you're the only one in the game who matters.
things you have actually accomplished in this game though:
absolutely nothing
you were not a driving force behind either scum lynch. you parked a weak vote on cakez when that wagon was building up, and aristo's wagon was basically just a free bus with the tracker report. you did not contribute a single goddamn thing yesterday either, all you did was keep repeating the same stuff over and over. you didn't try to dissuade anyone from the gear lynch, you seemed totally okay with the wagon and just didn't want to vote because "lol my scumreads are on the wagon"
get off your goddamn pedestal for just a moment. seriously. christ.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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also this is just goddamn pathetic in other ways too.In post 1432, farside22 wrote:I also wasn't on the wagon that just lynched town.
Now why does that make sense to do as scum?
watch:
look. the question you jsut asked is the same exact "wifom bs" you're accusing me of here.In post 1352, farside22 wrote:
I don't respond to wifom bs from scum thanks.In post 1350, Parama wrote:@farside
note: your entire argument that i'm scum for avoiding scum lynches is baseless unless you can provide a reasonable answer to this question, so you may want to answer it unless you're absolutely fine with everyone continuing to ignore youIn post 1297, Parama wrote:
okay, riddle me this:In post 1283, farside22 wrote:I was right there with aristo and cakez, your ignoring obvious scum on neither wagon, which kills me the most.
as scum, why would i intentionally leave myself off the aristo wagon, when there's a blatant guilty on him and easy bussing credit to grab?
you keep contradicting yourself over and over again
am i the insane one here? how has nobody else noticed she keeps doing this, over, and over, and OVER AND OVER AGAIN?????ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.In post 92, farside22 wrote: Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
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god, i really should've just replaced out of this after like d1 lol this game has been a frustrating mess from the moment it started, the past few days have been great because i haven't had to deal with this crap
p-edit: rach that's part of the big picture, but only part of it. are you not seeing the blatant contradictions and hypocrisy she's constantly spewing? i really, legitimately feel like i'm going crazy over here because this has been screamingly obvious to me since practically gamestart and nobody else seems to be seeing it at allShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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yes. i am aware you are. thank you for providing the last glimpse of sanity in this gameShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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In post 1427, Parama wrote:anyways. massclaim is fine by me.
Vt. shocking I know.
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1. yeah, that's just another dismissive argument that's completely invalid but whatever
2. if i had to take a crapshoot as to who sk is, i'd look between UT and Rach. probably the latter but i'd need to read into it more. but you're the mafia. 100%. i will be shocked if you do not flip maf. the time to doubt this read has long since passed.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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1. nope
2. nope
3. nope
4. not that i don't care about sk, just that i'm more interested in pushing the person who's absolutely going to flip scum.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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1. not voting scum is not a scumtell
2. my reasons are hilariously far from weak
3. this is just outright false. i don't ask questions to trap anyone.
4.fuck you you hypocritcal bitch
5. yeah, what? where?ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i'm sorry for uncivil language but you cannot believe how unbelievably pissed that makes me when farside has been the laziest goddamn scumhunter i've ever seen have this many goddamn posts with so little to even sayShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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meanwhile i have been hunting the hell out of the scum this game, to the point where several other people have said i look town because i'm plainly trying to hunt scum
you don't get to make that kind of outrageous allegation. piss off.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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maybe some offense meant but farside your attitude in this game has been one of the most unpleasant, toxic attitudes i've ever had the misfortune of playing with and if you are by some 0.0000000000000000000001% chance town i'm blacklisting you and avoiding you in all my future games. hell even if you're scum i'd still hate to ever have to play with you again but at least your absurd behavior would make the slightest bit of senseShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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legit this close to replacing out. i'm fed up with this bs. the fact that farside lived past day 1 when she's been doing the exact same crap over and over again is infuriating. how is nobody else seeing this. i feel like a sane man trapped in a prison asylum with all you loonies missing the blatantly obvious scum staring you straight in the face and continuing to spout hypocritical, dismissive, lazy, utterly useless garbage out of her scummy mouth. an entire ocean of scummy vomit. that's farside's entire freaking iso.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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like there's seriously barely even a reason to have any discussion today.
y'know what.
i'm done. i'm not posting anything of substance until farside hangs, like she should've day freakin' one and saved me a crapton of stress
yes. i'm aware we lynched scum d1. we lynched the wrong scum. cakez was a bad lynch compared to farside. i really don't give a damn. this game has basically sucked and i can place all of the blame squarely on farside for that.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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i went out to get groceries and thought of a question worth asking while i was out.
eager:i know your actions failed the past two nights but i'm wondering, who did you target? i'm wondering if the sk is ascetic like in the 42p role madness game that just finished, it would make sense with how much power the town has
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honestly the sk is more a poe between my townreads. eager is tracker and his report was basically impossible to fake, and aristo even confirmed it, so he's not sk. and ckd is just blatantly obvious town to me, it's not impossible he's sk but it's unoikely. so that leaves UT and rach, and i can see sk motivation in rach's posting more than UT's, but i haven't looked especially deeply into either of them yet and my opinion could change. maybe i'll do this if this day drags on too long but honestly atm i'm too exhausted for that.
i definitely don't read rach as mafia though, and have never insinuated as such.
you scumreading me and rach isn't an argument in of itself by the way, please stop treating it as one.
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you can't keep casting such wide nets as "everything he says is fake" or "everything she says is manufactured" or "he isn't scumhunting" and have people take you seriously. that's lazy. like, legitimately lazy. go away, scum. go lynch yourself.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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also thinking about it what the hell is the point of the question in 1432?
i literally can think of no reason why town would care about the answer to this question. the only people who care are the mafia and the sk. it's a town loss regardless of which one wins.
why would you ask this as town.
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well curious is in your username
but yes, she could be asking questions out loud to try and look town, not realizing how stupid that particular question is for town to ask.
because it is.
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it's been baffling me for four goddamn game days why a farside wagon hasn't gained any traction considering she's spent most of days 1, 3, and 4 being scum as hell. day 2 was the only thing that gave me any doubts and i've long since gotten over those.
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the context of farside's question helps, but it very specifically was asking which of mafia/sk would win in 3-way lylo. or if both would. there's no room for a town win in the question's wording or context.In post 1432, farside22 wrote:mod: if there is a sk and mafia in lylo with a townie, who wins?
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hey eager can you respond to thisIn post 1475, Parama wrote:eager:i know your actions failed the past two nights but i'm wondering, who did you target? i'm wondering if the sk is ascetic like in the 42p role madness game that just finished, it would make sense with how much power the town hasShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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well okay yeah I guess.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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there goes that theory, then. was worth a shot.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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she used that as a reason to not scumread you, learn to read, jesus christShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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like that is literally. the one thing rach kept saying in your defense. not the reason she's scumreading you.
you cannot possibly be this oblivious. omg.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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you don't even go back to check things. you just automatically try to spin them as something scummy. it's like a reflex.
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In post 1528, farside22 wrote:
Yeah here is the contraction post from today.In post 1429, RachMarie wrote:Para and ckd are my strongest town reads.
Snake is making me a bit paranoid why block him and not nk him especially since the doc died? Though the death of the doc looked more like a SK since it was stabbing? Need to go look at the other deaths to make sure its not some flavor thingy.
Far has more balls than I do double bussing her scum budz though.
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Learn to read paramaholy christ you need to learn to readIn post 1013, RachMarie wrote:And that is the other thing that bothers me about far being considered scumz would she be ballsy enough to double bus both her team mates?In post 1070, RachMarie wrote:The sticky point for me on scum far is would she double bus like that? Does anyone have experience with far bussing?In post 1177, RachMarie wrote:I was the first to point out that Far was on both scum lynches, and asked if she has a major habit of heavy bussing?
That is the sticky point for me for the scum read on Far.In post 1199, RachMarie wrote:What I was asking for from you and others who have played more games with Far than I have, is does SHE have the balls to double bus?In post 1267, RachMarie wrote:so far no one has been able to or has answered my concern about scum far which is why she would be ballsy enough to double bus both her scum budz?In post 1385, RachMarie wrote:I have some serious reservations about far but that meaning a double bus on her team mates well that worries me, BUT having a NL at deadline this early in the game is bad juju, so if gun to head it is a CHOICE tween a NL day and hammering Far, I will hammer Far.here, have 6 times she expressed the exact same holdup on lynching you
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like, it's about bloody time we finally do this, seriously, christShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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take your time if you need to ckd. you're going to come to the conclusion that farside is scum either way because it's blatantly obvious.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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fwiw I kinda agree that rach is being opportunistic, but I also don't care since scum can scumhunt each other and that's a-ok with meShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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hey UT baby I've looked into everyone alive plenty and the end result every single time has been "farside is scum".ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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also ckd yeah I never voted either flipped scum, but honestly do you think I wouldn't go for the easy bussing cred given the chance?
I interacted with both of them more than farside ever did and her cakez vote just reeks of bussing.
like I've said the aristo vote is the only thing that doesn't really click into place for me as a bus but that's too minor compared to all the evidence that farside is mafShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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@ckd I've publicly looked into every player at some point or another so you know, thatShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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again, I'm only tunneled because I *have* looked at everyone else
I may look into you all again to figure out who the SK is but I have achieved a level of clarity in a farside mafia read that I don't think I've ever had before.
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like for real between everyone here I don't think any one but farside is scum. eager comes off as too earnest and seemed way too proud of himself d3, which screams town to me. rach looks absolutely fantastic from association tells and day 2 behavior (but only as not-mafia, sk is still on the table), ckd all game has been working hard and scumhunting and it just doesn't come off as fake, especially the recent flipflopping, and UT I don't exactly remember the specifics atm too lazy to check on phone but I liked his posts in general and he looks pretty good by association.
meanwhile farside's play has been consistently scummy, her interactions with flipped scum very minimal and lazy, and her vote on cakez is just uuuugh. looks so bad.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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for the record something like 90% of that is stuff I've said before. please don't accuse me of not looking at other players when it's just completely untrue and very easily disprovableShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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also ckd i disagree that UT is being lurky and not scumhunting. I'd love to see him post more frequently but the stuff he has posted has generally been goodShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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hi, you accused me of death tunneling and not looking at other players???In post 1592, Untrod Tripod wrote:
did anyone accuse you of not posting reads?In post 1591, Parama wrote:for the record something like 90% of that is stuff I've said before. please don't accuse me of not looking at other players when it's just completely untrue and very easily disprovableShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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ckd my actions are voting farside specifically because I don't think anyone else is scum. I was looking at gear a lot yesterday too lol
do you like, want me to vote someone I don't think is scum??? how else do you expect me to act when I have a very strong scumread and townreads on most everyone else????ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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