Mini 1834: Biker Wars: Blood in the Streets (Game over!)

[Parama]

yeah I'm waiting for the claim srry screaming death clan friends

[Parama]

as I've said before, farside only acknowledges stuff if or when it's convenient for her

it's really pissing me off

[Parama]

@farside

I was right there with aristo and cakez, your ignoring obvious scum on neither wagon, which kills me the most.

okay, riddle me this:
as scum, why would i intentionally leave myself off the aristo wagon, when there's a blatant guilty on him and easy bussing credit to grab?

note: your entire argument that i'm scum for avoiding scum lynches is baseless unless you can provide a reasonable answer to this question, so you may want to answer it unless you're absolutely fine with everyone continuing to ignore you

[Parama]

VOTE: farside22

alright. so you're useless if you're town, and you're useless if you're scum. i give you the opportunity to at least act like you care, but you clearly don't. you very dearly do not care. you literally just called me scum, then voted

someone completely different

. hon, if Rach is scum like you're asserting, my post is not wifom bs from scum like you claim it is.

and no. you can't go "but i scumread you" because that's not where your vote is now. you have literally no excuse.

so i fall back to my argument of "farside doesn't care about finding scum in the slightest" because, well, obviously that's blatantly true and you're practically making the argument for me. screw whatever else you've done that makes you look a little town. it's just, irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. screw the aristo vote. screw your suicidal death tunnel. those are pebbles compared to the out of control boulder of terrible that your play has been this game. i do think you're scum. i genuinely cannot rationalize a townie having the mindset you constantly display in this game. but on the off chance you're not, you're absolutely worthless to the town anyways.

[Parama]

You can scumread us both, that's fine.

But if Rach is scum. I'm not. It's that simple, unless you think there's 4 mafia somehow.

If you are voting Rach, that reads as "I currently think Rach is the most likely scum".

Yet. You're using your scumread on me as an excuse to avoid a pretty damning question to your case. While putting your money elsewhere.

Do you see the problem? Or are you that freaking oblivious?

[Parama]

If eager asked you the same question, would you answer? You've done it before
If ckd, kuribo, or hell, Gear asked you the same question, would you answer? Probably, because you have to appease them. I know you don't have to appease me.
But if you're playing just to appease people. You're simply not town.

A: If you are town. Answering the question can only help your case. Right? Make it clearer to the town why I'm scum, get people to see your point of view better? What's the loss of answering it?
B: If you are scum, you don't have a good answer, most likely. Or you don't care enough to try and BS one. And since I asked it, you can dismiss it and nobody bats an eye. Nobody to appease.

The more you try to dodge it, the more you look like a strong B to me.

[Parama]

I see Parama is still scumreading farside

For weaker reason she then last time.

Most likely because he's scum and he hates I won't let it go that I see through his crap.

what more can i say other than at this point

@ckd: sure, there could be a SK, but that's irrelevant to this argument, because both of farside's scumreads are heavily based on association tells with the flipped mafia. again. i'm not saying it's wrong to have two scumreads. i'm saying that, yet again, farside has contradicted herself trying to dodge a damning question.

[Parama]

Unvote

Doesn't count. Not in bold.

pretty sure this was a correction to 1364, "invite" was supposed to be "unvote"

but thank you for your proactive moderating nonetheless

[Parama]

oh yeah,

V/LA 10/13 to 10/15

i'm basically only going to be phoneposting for the next few days 'cause i'm hitting concerts three nights in a row and i'm not inclined to be thinking too hard about this game right now
though i don't think there's any hard thinking left to be done tbh.

[Parama]

at this point the quieter crowd is composed of eager and UT.
and i don't think either are scum.

[Parama]

Way to misrep me gear.

How should I have been able to distinguish you posting your ideas, from you posting things you think Grey is thinking?

just saying, but nobody else seemed to have a problem doing so

[Parama]

yeah, sorry for using my brain to point out the obvious

[Parama]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gear

yolo tbh

[Parama]

@Mod: could a lone mafia member perform both their factional kill and their role action? (for example, roleblocker)

now you're just taking the piss. i already asked mod the same exact question, word-for-word and he didn't answer it there. the hell was the point of even asking again? it just seems like you knew snake was gonna be rbed. which, honestly, isn't that hard to predict, but why would you even do this to begin with? absolutely baffling.

anyways. massclaim is fine by me.
Vt. shocking I know.
God knows this setup has already had its fair share of claimed or flipped town power.

[Parama]

oh and full disclosure for disclosure's sake, the biggest reason i hammered gear was bcuz i didn't want to have to think about this game for a few days. i mean, aside from that he was one of the two people who had any chance of flipping scum fmpov.

now there's only one person. so, yeah. no more doubts. deathtunnel til the end baby
VOTE: farside22

[Parama]

there's been no consistent death flavor at all.
n1: "blown up", "bludgeoned"
n2: "shot"
n3: "stabbed"

[Parama]

I wanted to see if the mod missed the question.
I see nothing wrong with asking.

the part that pisses me off the most is that you literally used the same wording as me

also, you made this post.

Explained.
Just felt like it was a soft claim and I missed some of the back and forth dialog.
Plus he asked if scum could do both a PR and kill, it reads like he is ready to try to fake claim at this point.

piss off with your hypocritical crap, honestly.

like, you can't criticize me for something and then turn around and.

literally.

do the exact same goddamn thing

i have words i want to say to you but they need to wait until postgame.

[Parama]

I also wasn't on the wagon that just lynched town.
Now why does that make sense to do as scum?

because you knew the wagon would flip town and did everything in your power to avoid it because it'd look bad on you? y'know??? you never gave any valid reasons for gear not being scum, just kept screaming "parama and rach are on the wagon so he must be town"

[Parama]

like you keep acting so goddamn high and mighty like you're the only one in the game who matters.

things you have actually accomplished in this game though:

absolutely nothing

you were not a driving force behind either scum lynch. you parked a weak vote on cakez when that wagon was building up, and aristo's wagon was basically just a free bus with the tracker report. you did not contribute a single goddamn thing yesterday either, all you did was keep repeating the same stuff over and over. you didn't try to dissuade anyone from the gear lynch, you seemed totally okay with the wagon and just didn't want to vote because "lol my scumreads are on the wagon"
get off your goddamn pedestal for just a moment. seriously. christ.

[Parama]

I also wasn't on the wagon that just lynched town.
Now why does that make sense to do as scum?

also this is just goddamn pathetic in other ways too.
watch:

@farside

I was right there with aristo and cakez, your ignoring obvious scum on neither wagon, which kills me the most.

okay, riddle me this:
as scum, why would i intentionally leave myself off the aristo wagon, when there's a blatant guilty on him and easy bussing credit to grab?

note: your entire argument that i'm scum for avoiding scum lynches is baseless unless you can provide a reasonable answer to this question, so you may want to answer it unless you're absolutely fine with everyone continuing to ignore you

I don't respond to wifom bs from scum thanks.

look. the question you jsut asked is the same exact "wifom bs" you're accusing me of here.

you keep contradicting yourself over and over again

am i the insane one here? how has nobody else noticed she keeps doing this, over, and over, and OVER AND OVER AGAIN?????

[Parama]

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

Also hypocrisy is negative but sadly not a scum tell.
Just a peeve of mine.

[Parama]

god, i really should've just replaced out of this after like d1 lol this game has been a frustrating mess from the moment it started, the past few days have been great because i haven't had to deal with this crap

p-edit: rach that's part of the big picture, but only part of it. are you not seeing the blatant contradictions and hypocrisy she's constantly spewing? i really, legitimately feel like i'm going crazy over here because this has been screamingly obvious to me since practically gamestart and nobody else seems to be seeing it at all

[Parama]

yes. i am aware you are. thank you for providing the last glimpse of sanity in this game

[Parama]

anyways. massclaim is fine by me.
Vt. shocking I know.
God knows this setup has already had its fair share of claimed or flipped town power.

[Parama]

1. yeah, that's just another dismissive argument that's completely invalid but whatever
2. if i had to take a crapshoot as to who sk is, i'd look between UT and Rach. probably the latter but i'd need to read into it more. but you're the mafia. 100%. i will be shocked if you do not flip maf. the time to doubt this read has long since passed.

[Parama]

1. nope
2. nope
3. nope
4. not that i don't care about sk, just that i'm more interested in pushing the person who's absolutely going to flip scum.

[Parama]

1. not voting scum is not a scumtell
2. my reasons are hilariously far from weak
3. this is just outright false. i don't ask questions to trap anyone.
4.

fuck you you hypocritcal bitch

5. yeah, what? where?

[Parama]

i'm sorry for uncivil language but you cannot believe how unbelievably pissed that makes me when farside has been the laziest goddamn scumhunter i've ever seen have this many goddamn posts with so little to even say

[Parama]

meanwhile i have been hunting the hell out of the scum this game, to the point where several other people have said i look town because i'm plainly trying to hunt scum

you don't get to make that kind of outrageous allegation. piss off.

[Parama]

maybe some offense meant but farside your attitude in this game has been one of the most unpleasant, toxic attitudes i've ever had the misfortune of playing with and if you are by some 0.0000000000000000000001% chance town i'm blacklisting you and avoiding you in all my future games. hell even if you're scum i'd still hate to ever have to play with you again but at least your absurd behavior would make the slightest bit of sense

[Parama]

legit this close to replacing out. i'm fed up with this bs. the fact that farside lived past day 1 when she's been doing the exact same crap over and over again is infuriating. how is nobody else seeing this. i feel like a sane man trapped in a prison asylum with all you loonies missing the blatantly obvious scum staring you straight in the face and continuing to spout hypocritical, dismissive, lazy, utterly useless garbage out of her scummy mouth. an entire ocean of scummy vomit. that's farside's entire freaking iso.

[Parama]

like there's seriously barely even a reason to have any discussion today.

y'know what.

i'm done. i'm not posting anything of substance until farside hangs, like she should've day freakin' one and saved me a crapton of stress

yes. i'm aware we lynched scum d1. we lynched the wrong scum. cakez was a bad lynch compared to farside. i really don't give a damn. this game has basically sucked and i can place all of the blame squarely on farside for that.

[Parama]

i went out to get groceries and thought of a question worth asking while i was out.

eager:

i know your actions failed the past two nights but i'm wondering, who did you target? i'm wondering if the sk is ascetic like in the 42p role madness game that just finished, it would make sense with how much power the town has

also to clarify:
i take personal offense to people saying i'm not scumhunting, especially as town, because i put my all into the games i play and being called "lazy" like that is insulting and objectively untrue. i've been as transparent with my reads as i could possibly be and the only person whose iso i haven't looked into at some point or other in this game is snarky's, which, well, there's nothing to see there

[Parama]

honestly the sk is more a poe between my townreads. eager is tracker and his report was basically impossible to fake, and aristo even confirmed it, so he's not sk. and ckd is just blatantly obvious town to me, it's not impossible he's sk but it's unoikely. so that leaves UT and rach, and i can see sk motivation in rach's posting more than UT's, but i haven't looked especially deeply into either of them yet and my opinion could change. maybe i'll do this if this day drags on too long but honestly atm i'm too exhausted for that.
i definitely don't read rach as mafia though, and have never insinuated as such.
you scumreading me and rach isn't an argument in of itself by the way, please stop treating it as one.
why the hell am i even responding to you.

[Parama]

mod why didn't you answer the question when i asked it

[Parama]

you can't keep casting such wide nets as "everything he says is fake" or "everything she says is manufactured" or "he isn't scumhunting" and have people take you seriously. that's lazy. like, legitimately lazy. go away, scum. go lynch yourself.

[Parama]

also thinking about it what the hell is the point of the question in 1432?
i literally can think of no reason why town would care about the answer to this question. the only people who care are the mafia and the sk. it's a town loss regardless of which one wins.
why would you ask this as town.

oh, right. you aren't town. duh.

[Parama]

well curious is in your username
but yes, she could be asking questions out loud to try and look town, not realizing how stupid that particular question is for town to ask.
because it is.

ckd, farside, why were you curious about this? why does it matter to you?

[Parama]

it's been baffling me for four goddamn game days why a farside wagon hasn't gained any traction considering she's spent most of days 1, 3, and 4 being scum as hell. day 2 was the only thing that gave me any doubts and i've long since gotten over those.

p-edit: because it's a loss for me either way.

[Parama]

the context of farside's question helps, but it very specifically was asking which of mafia/sk would win in 3-way lylo. or if both would. there's no room for a town win in the question's wording or context.

mod: if there is a sk and mafia in lylo with a townie, who wins?

I just experienced in princess bride the worst mod decision I ever seen where scum/sk got a joint win.

[Parama]

eager:

i know your actions failed the past two nights but i'm wondering, who did you target? i'm wondering if the sk is ascetic like in the 42p role madness game that just finished, it would make sense with how much power the town has

hey eager can you respond to this

[Parama]

well okay yeah I guess.

[Parama]

there goes that theory, then. was worth a shot.

[Parama]

she used that as a reason to not scumread you, learn to read, jesus christ

[Parama]

like that is literally. the one thing rach kept saying in your defense. not the reason she's scumreading you.

you cannot possibly be this oblivious. omg.

[Parama]

you don't even go back to check things. you just automatically try to spin them as something scummy. it's like a reflex.

protip: this is not town behavior

[Parama]

Para and ckd are my strongest town reads.

Snake is making me a bit paranoid why block him and not nk him especially since the doc died? Though the death of the doc looked more like a SK since it was stabbing? Need to go look at the other deaths to make sure its not some flavor thingy.

Far has more balls than I do double bussing her scum budz though.

VOTE: Far

Yeah here is the contraction post from today.
Learn to read parama

holy christ you need to learn to read

And that is the other thing that bothers me about far being considered scumz would she be ballsy enough to double bus both her team mates?

The sticky point for me on scum far is would she double bus like that? Does anyone have experience with far bussing?

I was the first to point out that Far was on both scum lynches, and asked if she has a major habit of heavy bussing?

That is the sticky point for me for the scum read on Far.

What I was asking for from you and others who have played more games with Far than I have, is does SHE have the balls to double bus?

so far no one has been able to or has answered my concern about scum far which is why she would be ballsy enough to double bus both her scum budz?

I have some serious reservations about far but that meaning a double bus on her team mates well that worries me, BUT having a NL at deadline this early in the game is bad juju, so if gun to head it is a CHOICE tween a NL day and hammering Far, I will hammer Far.

here, have 6 times she expressed the exact same holdup on lynching you

god. stop being such a baby. you're like twice my age and you're acting like a freaking kindergartener.

[Parama]

like, it's about bloody time we finally do this, seriously, christ

[Parama]

take your time if you need to ckd. you're going to come to the conclusion that farside is scum either way because it's blatantly obvious.

[Parama]

fwiw I kinda agree that rach is being opportunistic, but I also don't care since scum can scumhunt each other and that's a-ok with me

[Parama]

hey UT baby I've looked into everyone alive plenty and the end result every single time has been "farside is scum".

[Parama]

also ckd yeah I never voted either flipped scum, but honestly do you think I wouldn't go for the easy bussing cred given the chance?
I interacted with both of them more than farside ever did and her cakez vote just reeks of bussing.
like I've said the aristo vote is the only thing that doesn't really click into place for me as a bus but that's too minor compared to all the evidence that farside is maf

[Parama]

@ckd I've publicly looked into every player at some point or another so you know, that

[Parama]

again, I'm only tunneled because I *have* looked at everyone else
I may look into you all again to figure out who the SK is but I have achieved a level of clarity in a farside mafia read that I don't think I've ever had before.

and she's somehow still alive.

[Parama]

like for real between everyone here I don't think any one but farside is scum. eager comes off as too earnest and seemed way too proud of himself d3, which screams town to me. rach looks absolutely fantastic from association tells and day 2 behavior (but only as not-mafia, sk is still on the table), ckd all game has been working hard and scumhunting and it just doesn't come off as fake, especially the recent flipflopping, and UT I don't exactly remember the specifics atm too lazy to check on phone but I liked his posts in general and he looks pretty good by association.

meanwhile farside's play has been consistently scummy, her interactions with flipped scum very minimal and lazy, and her vote on cakez is just uuuugh. looks so bad.

[Parama]

for the record something like 90% of that is stuff I've said before. please don't accuse me of not looking at other players when it's just completely untrue and very easily disprovable

[Parama]

also ckd i disagree that UT is being lurky and not scumhunting. I'd love to see him post more frequently but the stuff he has posted has generally been good

[Parama]

for the record something like 90% of that is stuff I've said before. please don't accuse me of not looking at other players when it's just completely untrue and very easily disprovable

did anyone accuse you of not posting reads?

hi, you accused me of death tunneling and not looking at other players???

[Parama]

ckd my actions are voting farside specifically because I don't think anyone else is scum. I was looking at gear a lot yesterday too lol

do you like, want me to vote someone I don't think is scum??? how else do you expect me to act when I have a very strong scumread and townreads on most everyone else????

[Parama]

for the record something like 90% of that is stuff I've said before. please don't accuse me of not looking at other players when it's just completely untrue and very easily disprovable

did anyone accuse you of not posting reads?

hi, you accused me of death tunneling and not looking at other players???

you HAVE been deathtunneling

uuuuummmm

now I'm just confused. the way you say it death tunneling sounds like not looking at anyone ever and just focusing on one player

so

[Parama]

if you take Farside out of Para's game.

what has Para done?

uhhhh hasn't he just been deathtunnelling farside this whole time?

like how else am I expected to interpret this???

[Parama]

as far as I've ever understood tunneling it's implied focusing on one or two players and outright ignoring everyone else

it's like based on horses and blinders in a race so they can only see straight forward and literally not see anything else ??? or something like that I dunno

[Parama]

I could make the argument that as scum I freaking love to bus but that's a meta argument and I'm too lazy to find examples on my phone but I mean it's true lol

[Parama]

and here we have the wild hypocrite calling someone else a hypocrite, an action that could be defined as hypocritical

[Parama]

man...really take this shit personally.

exactly how I felt when farside tried to say I was being lazy tbh

[Parama]

also if Far and Para are the two remaining scum...I am going to laugh and laugh (see Day 1).

Someone tell me if this is a slip that there is more then one scum left.

i refuse to believe you are this dense

[Parama]

no, the vc is correct. Ckd unvoted.

[Parama]

ckd's name is just in the wrong place lol ok

[Parama]

eager would you please post something, ANYTHING, of substance?

[Parama]

i want to see that you are thinking about this game. voting and sheeping other peoples' logic isn't thinking about this game. it's coasting.

[Parama]

i'm so sick of this game, jesus christ

[Parama]

if you had the slightest bit of reading comprehension skills you'd be aware that "two scum" means "mafia and sk"

like

why does everyone keep thinking he means two maf

i legit don't understand that interpretation ????

[Parama]

i mean if you're super dense obv

you don't even care farside why do i care that you don't care

[Parama]

at the time, we had no strong reason to believe there was an sk, and you were acting like me and rach were both mafia anyways.
but you can delude yourself all you want. you're still the biggest hypocrite in the game, yeah.

[Parama]

...

you know what would be just the absolute worst.

if the setup is freaking 9:2:2

omg.

[Parama]

...i think eager would still be town in that scenario though. town having only a watcher/doctor vs. two maf teams swings back to feeling too scum-sided. and one maf having a ninja and the other having a tracker would also be strange. so hmm. i'm not sure it's worth considering, except that today probably should be treated as mylo just in case?

[Parama]

just do it dude i'm sick of all the screwing around

[Parama]

god bless america

@mod get in here please i wanna see that juicy maf flip

[Parama]

i am legit going to be heartbroken if farside doesn't flip scum, like holy christ you cannot possibly play that badly and still be town, it's inconceivable

[Parama]

I can't stop refreshing at work lol rip

[Parama]

in the meantime I'd really love to hear eager post... something ????? anything that could be considered content?????????

[Parama]

I mean I don't think he's scum

And that's why I'd love his contributions

If there were any :/

[Parama]

[Parama]

I know he

did

stuff
But atm he is not

doing

stuff

[Parama]

you're telling me omg I've refreshed at least like 30 times already I swear

[Parama]

omg SC where are you pal buddy friend

[Parama]

I mean he hasn't been on the site since yesterday so I don't think that would do much good

[Parama]

i have literally no clue what to do anymore. and we're in a really cruddy situation too.

[Parama]

i legitimately do not believe farside's flip. i'm pretty sure SC is lying to us. nobody can play like that and be town.

[Parama]

also eager was double-killed it looks like. so yeah. goddammit.

we have to rely on a crosskill to win at this point, there's no other winning scenario with 2:1:1. mafia and sk have incentive to crosskill, since presumably game ends in a draw if they don't.
i don't think we should NL straightaway though.

[Parama]

rach look at the flavor. sc made it pretty clear eager was killed by both mafia and sk.

[Parama]

hmm.

at this point in time, i would say:
UT mafia
Rach SK
but i need to reread. which i'm going to do.

@everyone: if you had to say right now who you thought the maf and SK were, who would you pick? like i don't want to hear literally anything other than names atm. this is just a place to start. i want this done before any substantial discussion occurs today. it should be fairly quick and painless.

[Parama]

I don't want to talk to get someone lynched. I want to talk to make it easier for mafia and sk to cross kill.

[Parama]

Like anyone suggesting anything other than a no lynch today is scum. I'm not arguing there. I think it's premature to just quickly end the game day and have to pray for what's mathematically a 1 in 9 chance for victory.

[Parama]

oh ye of little faith. I guess I'm gonna have to do this asap if you're going to continue to be so suicidal.

ckd why do you think we shouldn't have discussion? You agree that mafia and sk have incentive to crosskill. Discussion should only make it more apparent to everyone who mafia and sk are. Which is exactly what the town needs.

I have no intention of lynching anyone today considering that lynching scum means auto win for the other scum.

[Parama]

CKD. I have literally said that I agree with NL.

[Parama]

honestly if both scum shoot me tonight that would be rad actually

[Parama]

shoot me tonight if you think i'm scum then

[Parama]

scared i'd catch you?

[Parama]

dunno it makes perfect sense to me

[Parama]

VOTE: No Lynch

[Parama]

really funny how both townies were the ones who didn't want to rush the day though, while scum pushed for the quicklynch
have fun tonight you two.

[Parama]

sup UT, how's life

[Parama]

cooking dinner right now. feeling tired from work as i tend to do. i want to sleep but i don't want to sleep. i got another album in today to listen to so that should be fun

[Parama]

hi ckd how was your night

[Parama]

hi SC how have you been lately

[Parama]

ckd, i did not kill grey.

please stop accusing me of things i did not do. you're the sk and ut is the mafia. 99% sure it's that way. ut makes more sense as mafia than you do.

i wonder if sk is bulletproof and mafia shot them last night. if that's the case it's autoloss for town though, uuggh

[Parama]

i'm gonna laugh real hard when i read the dead thread and grey yelling at me for being awful in this game

[Parama]

hey grey i promise next time around i'll actually, like, vote scum once in the game instead of being distracted by the world's worst townie

this has happened with btd6 and farside and it's getting absolutely absurd that i keep getting in these games with absolutely abysmal town players

[Parama]

i'd rather the sk win than the mafia team tbh

[Parama]

setup sucked fmpov but what can you do. sigh.

[Parama]

like, what can sk do against watcher + doc combo. what can sk do against a roleblocker. the two investigative roles could both catch SK, but mafia had two roles to counter them.

[Parama]

i legit feel like this was reviewed for town and mafia balance but the sk was just thrown in last minute to make it swingy because it really does not feel like the sk belongs in the setup at all. take out the sk, replace one of the watcher/tracker with a weaker role, boom, balanced setup

[Parama]

oh and farside, for the record:

I 100% believed you were scum, I did not fake scumhunt and I was not lazy.

so you can go piss right off into your egotistical self-centered corner of the internet, where i will never have to listen to your incoherent babble ever again.
literally every reason you thought i was scum was wrong, and i'm sure there were actually valid reasons to call me out as scum but the ones you picked were all the ones scum would pick trying to mislynch someone and it just got so infuriating that i practically wanted to scream out that i was sk just to get you off your high horse

but no i guess not.
legit worst play i've seen in ages. probably gonna quit playing this game again for a year and it's a large part your fault because your presence in this game sucked every last drop of fun out of it in a way i didn't think possible. i don't really care as much that mafia won. UT played great tbh he deserves it, though much less the other two scum who basically did squat. the rest of the town even did pretty alright on the whole, especially ckd. everyone else was pretty fun to play with.
but the game was absolutely unpleasant and mostly because of you, farside. just sayin'. anyways i've got that off my chest now so

[Parama]

also @aristo for what it's worth you single-handedly made rach blatantly obviously not mafia to me so i thank you for that
but you probably could've handled d2 twilight better if you were trying to help scum

[Parama]

yeah, the setup is pretty generally not good but i'm gonna be forever mad at sc now
who reviewed the setup? i wanna yell at them too

[Parama]

i'd have loved to be unlimited bulletproof bcuz then the game would at least be a draw but ehh

also hi spyspy i love you too

[Parama]

I'm just

not sure how I won that

holy shit

your roleblock ability, mostly

[Parama]

i actually thought you were mafia! hold on lemme get the draft post i saved

[Parama]

would've posted this if i ever needed to claim vig since it was legit why i shot you

I was eating breakfast when I was struck by the epiphany
And i was like ah shit bois cakes is scum
And i have to hammer the scum all the scum So i did

during night 1 i realized this was probably role-related for kraska, or at least that's the impression it gave off. but when eager claimed tracker that theory seemed to be unlikely. obviously though that actually was the case.

and im down for an ari wagon
ari what are your reads?

VOTE: ari

i don't even have a scumread on aristo tbh, he's pretty null

same
help put pressure on him then

pedit: still think farside is town but i agree killing grey over ckd is weird. if anyone's getting vigged it should be farside

i didn't like kraska's d2 in general but these two posts in particular. first she gives lip service to the wagon, without voting. then votes in her next post and asks for "pressure". it looked like an uncertain bus.

[Parama]

i was also gonna claim that i forgot to send an action n3

i was too busy being at metal concerts to even think about the game tbh and the kill being blocked made a nice excuse

[Parama]

i actually wasn't, after day 2, bcuz it didn't look like far was bussing. i even went over everything again d3 with that in mind.
by the end of d3 i was locked into farside scum tho. i hammered gear just to get the game moving forward tbh. didn't really wanna lynch him but whatevs.

[Parama]

i mean, technically not town v. town but i did not know farside's alignment and did legitimately think she was scum

[Parama]

Asking a question clearly designed to contradict a players post should never ever be considered town.
Ever.

It's a good thing I literally never did this then?
You only perceived this as happening because you were already contradicting yourself all over the place.

[Parama]

farside won't stop because she refuses to admit she was the problem

like if she wasn't the problem she wouldn't have gotten lynched obviously but she's gonna continue denying reality past the point where I have any incentive to lie so w/e

[Parama]

Same

[Parama]

I'm sorry spyspy.

[Parama]

You have to admit the scum was op as hell though if one single mafia member can way overpower an sk

[Parama]

Newbie game setups go through rigorous balancing tho, also they're semi random

[Parama]

I already said you played fine UT I just take issue with the setup

Frankly it's a miracle I survived as long as I did with all the power on both town and scum sides