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Pine, Jason, its been awhile.
Creature, drealz, good to see you.
Anything I should know before I start reading?
Might not get to it until tomorrow as I have to protect New LA from the Ganglion invasion tonight and hopefully recruit a special someone."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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I had a bigger post which got lost so my commentary for the first 1I pages is now MIA.
Town
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Pine
Shaziro
Kuror0
Drealm
Dunnstral
Culted
Shadow
Scum
Creature
Jason
Kuroixhf
Persivul
I'm really not seeing the Pine Scum thing.
There's a lot of spec forming around the item and pine and it needs to stop.
Lynching him because he has it is stupid. Lynching it to get it to a townie is stupid because we can't know his alignment before death and we can't guarantee that the recipient is Town. Its a stupid argument.
I was going to toss shadow into a town like but then he voted pine.In post 531, Pine wrote:He's a Miller claim. Proper protocol is a vig shot. If he's still alive tomorrow, I'm down to lynch him.In post 532, KuroiXHF wrote:Does this sound non-genuine to anyone else?Your posts sound non genuine, yes.
And here we are bickering over a trifle again.In post 539, Shaziro wrote:I didn't pay attention to the post, tbh. I saw googled and figured he was repeating himself.
Agreed.In post 549, culted wrote:Feel like kuroi's reaction to getting policy voted was kinda flaccid? Like does he scumread me for it or is he just pissed?
Kinda feel like he's pushing creature for nai/surfacey things while there's already a smidgen of hype there? Scummy.
Agree with drealmerz that Persivul's 503 is terrible.Why this over kuroixhf or Persivul?
Creature is definitely inflating his post count here. I'm not sure what to make of it other than Scum."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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What are your thought ps on Persivul?In post 807, Shaziro wrote:I highly recommend the Creature wagon, we're accepting all votes!
I realize my mobile posting means I don't have a lot of reads for things but still interested in your thoughts."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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YesIn post 816, Persivul wrote:
Why? Do you even understand the context of the post?In post 803, Andrius wrote:Agree with drealmerz that Persivul's 503 is terrible.
And yesIn post 818, KuroiXHF wrote:To clarify, Andrius, you're saying that it's my posts that are coming across non-genuious?"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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No, I'm defending a townread of mine.culted wrote:looks like he's white knighting pine here because he's not taking an entire appreciation of the push that happened and then literally scumreading shadow just for voting pine, who's been posting more town content than a lot of people, while not acknowledging shadow's specific hangups there.
Also, if you look at my 803 again you'll notice that you and shadow both occupy a second group that isn't scum.
Yes, I didn't like his vote on Pine.
But I'm not scumreading him, you both are in a secondary tier of TOWN.
TOWN is first.me, 803 wrote:Town
Sly
Pine
Shaziro
Kuror0
Drealm
Dunnstral
Culted
Shadow
Scum
Creature
Jason
Kuroixhf
Persivul
Then *space* left open.
Then TOWN GROUP B which is basically here to denote they are townreads but not as strong.
Then SCUM.
Uh, no.culted wrote: Also towards the end it's mostly bad shade-commentary. Cherry picking posts from a few of his scumreads looks less like solving them and providing examples to fit his reads.
I lost alot of content when I lost my post with the first 17-18 pages of reading.
Also no one wants to read an old-school replace-in wall of text so I changed my style.
I might throw things together later depending on how committed I am to read this game again. lol
kuroi could be annoying terrible town. Still a scumread.
Especially since a potential vig already has their hands full killing Dunnstral?
Never played with either of them before but ok.
I don't think I said you had a scumread on persivul.
I wanted to know why you prefer drealmerz over two options I listed. Both scumreads of mine.
Will have to look back at kuror0's case again.
I have come to expect a bit of eccentricity from drealmerz.
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In post 841, Persivul wrote:
You had me at the bottom of your reads list and you reiterate that you would lynch me...yet your vote is on Jason. What's up with that?In post 838, Andrius wrote:Again, I'm also ok lynching Persivul.In post 803, Andrius wrote:I had a bigger post which got lost so my commentary for the first 1I pages is now MIA.
Scum
Creature
Jason
Kuroixhf
PersivulIn post 804, Andrius wrote:Sly I'm willing to vote any of my scumreads who do you want to die first?
VOTE: Jasonwazza
Until Sly and I sort out what we're gonna do.In post 804, Andrius wrote:Sly I'm willing to vote any of my scumreads who do you want to die first?"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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He lives!In post 872, SlySly wrote:I am catching up. Busy weekend. Substance soon.
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I think the issue here was both options are if he's scum.In post 971, SlySly wrote:The Infamous Persivul 503
Paraphrasing...In post 503, Persivul wrote:
If Pine is scum and we don't lynch him, then scum definitely have the item tonight.In post 502, SlySly wrote:I understand where you're coming from, but I'm willing to at least wait through N1 to take Pine out.
If Pine is scum and we do lynch him, then there's a good chance he gives the item to town as wifom, since whomever he gives it to will be a suspect.
1. "If Pine's scum and we don't lynch him, since Pine's scum, scum will have the item tonight." Truth
2. "If Pine's scum and we do lynch him, whoever he gives it to gets the bullseye." Truth
I don't see scumminess here.
Whether he's town-aligned or not is never discussed here as an option."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Dunn, drealmz, Shaziro are town.
Jason scum.
shadow questionable.
We don't know if mafia know or not.In post 127, JasonWazza wrote:VOTE: JasonWazza
I have a decent idea what it is, and i'd be willing to take it.
And as a side note, assuming Mafia knows what places are bad/what places have items, we have to suspect anyone who wanted to stay in the woods/Go to the shops.
This is a bit pointless.
I mean, I get the town motivation for this speculation, but its groundless currently.
In post 137, JasonWazza wrote:
Informed Minority, and makes sense for the game mechanic.In post 136, Dunnstral wrote:Why are you assuming scum know all the paths?
Why are you assuming this item is good?
I know what the item is, and it benefits my class well if i'm right as to what it does.SHAZIRO:Tinfoil Theory. Does Strand want/require any of these items for some nefarious purpose? Or are they just loot for us?
Because it would make sense, if he needs them, to have foreknowledge of what he needs/where they are.
I ask because Jason just provided knowledge of what an item is.
Which I'm not ruling out for role-related but still.
This I agree with. On the grounds of Miller.In post 162, JasonWazza wrote:I am 100% against Dunnstral getting the item btw.
This man has a good point.In post 177, shaddowez wrote:
I get the first part. Regarding the second part, this is Mafia, not D&D. I don't know if its the fact that I don't have the flavor knowledge that may be blinding me here, but I look at it this way.In post 171, JasonWazza wrote:It's not like a black mage will be a doctor, so if you can relate something to what it's possible equivalents are then you likely have an idea of what something can do.
Imagine this is some generic D&D magic item, like a Ring of Protection. We don't have AC here, so it has to do something else. Obviously it will be a protective ability in some manner, but that could be Bulletproof, or Doctor, or possibly even Bodyguard. I may be the only person seeing it this way, but from you saying things along the lines of "My class will benefit the most", it sounds like youwhich of the three it would be.know
If the flavor makes it that much more obvious, do you really think its more helpful to town to be this secretive about what it does?
But you just said you believed scum might have foreknowledge of where the items are at least. Which means there's some benefit to them that's item-specific?In post 178, JasonWazza wrote:I do believe keeping it secretive is better, for the simple fact that then the Scum don't know how strong/weak it could be and this forces them into a worse spot.
Disagree.In post 179, JasonWazza wrote:Also as an aside, giving the items (in general) to strong town reads is a bad idea, because your just asking for the Scum to start killing them.
No townie should be afraid of death.
The Jason part I like because I agree so I might be biased here.In post 200, kuror0 wrote:Ok. some thoughts after my catch up. Jazzon too many assumptions at this point are not useful for town it is good to have your own idea but being locked on them with so many things being uncertain doesn't help.
I think there is a chance some items may be more useful or unlock an ability for a certain role but I doubt every item we get is designed like that.
Now the thing is who we give the item. The best option would be for someone we trust but at this point it is really hard to have a strong town read or anything close imo and most of us would want to get the item just because it is nice to explore the mechanics of the game and stuff. For now I volunteer as a guinea pig to get the item and we can agree to openly say if there is a role specific restriction or that kind of stuff so we can make more informed decision on the objects we get later in the game. That's most of my ideas at this point.
The second half doesn't really provide anything new. More theory. hrmmm
Sly is still town.
Dunnstral's vote in 361 is horrid.
shaddows and culted all over it. hooray
culted is town.
pine town.
Persivul tunnelled in on Pine.
phewIn post 467, Creature wrote:Don't worry, I'm not a MariaR relative.
OR if you flip the chessboard over, scum want to lynch a town bulletproof/self-healer since they can't kill him at will.In post 457, Persivul wrote:
Yeah, and town has to wonder if you're putting out an excuse for why you're not being NK'd.In post 426, Pine wrote:@Culted: Let vig deal with Dunn. If there's no vig in game, we can always lynch him tomorrow.
PEdit: No, they didn't. But now scum have to wonder if I was telling the truth and it's not useful to go after me, or whether I'm bluffing. I figure I may be able to absorb a kill this way. I've stuck my neck out this far and painted a target on my back, I may as well confuse them more. Or not! Fuck you, scum.
Kuroi only seems to respond to stuff directed at him.
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THANK YOUIn post 493, kuror0 wrote:Kuroi you should try to give your thoughts about what has happened and how you perceive other players instead of going full defensive and ignoring everything else.
This is true.In post 500, Persivul wrote:
Lynching scum outweighs the benefit of any item. We don't know that we have a vig.In post 498, SlySly wrote:I agree with this 100%. I don't agree with lynching Pine though because if we do, he gets to pick who the item goes to. If he dies at night, we get to vote on it.
The latter is wifom.In post 503, Persivul wrote:
If Pine is scum and we don't lynch him, then scum definitely have the item tonight.In post 502, SlySly wrote:I understand where you're coming from, but I'm willing to at least wait through N1 to take Pine out.
If Pine is scum and we do lynch him, then there's a good chance he gives the item to town as wifom, since whomever he gives it to will be a suspect.
He could give it to scum expecting us to believe he gave it to town to paint them red.
He could give it to town expecting us to believe he gave it to scum expecting us to believe he gave it to town to paint them red.
etc
Yeah uh kuror0 could be scum.
Jason still my preferred lynch.
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I admit, I've pulled something like that before in XENOBLADE years ago.In post 1092, SlySly wrote:
Can you tell me why you don't agree?In post 939, Andrius wrote: Assuming we're talking about the same thing, I don't necessarily agree.
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Take this post as you will:
1) The mod could be CHEEKY and add a THERES A CHANCE clause to deliberately leave things open
2) It could not be Jason
3) Role could be scum to protect against a randomly-selected scumdeath, which would be freaking brutal for the scumteam to die randomly"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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And how do you propose we do that?In post 1099, Creature wrote:Let's do something like "make yourself killed before we lynch you"
I'm against this btw."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Yeah, I'd be freaking pissed if I were scum and randomly chosen to die.In post 1104, SlySly wrote:
I think this apple is organic.In post 1100, Andrius wrote:3) Role could be scum to protect against a randomly-selected scumdeath, which would be freaking brutal for the scumteam to die randomly
VOTE: JasonWazza
Andrius, do you know where I might find an Oracle? I have some questions that need to be answered.
Just like I'd be pissed if someone governor'd a lynch.
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Pls help the flavor-illiterate out?In post 1107, Shaziro wrote:Also, you might be after Madame Eva, Sly.
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that implies he did somethingIn post 1111, SlySly wrote:I won't say why, but Kurio has gained a few townie points."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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SlySly is voting twice?In post 1110, Clumsy wrote:
L-1(6) JasonWazza - Andrius, Persivul, Pine, drealmerz7, Shaziro, SlySly
(3) drealmerz7 - JasonWazza, Dunnstral, Creature
(2) kuror0 - Culted, SlySly
(1) Persivul - kuror0
(1) Pine - Shaddowez
(1) Shaddowez - KuroiXHF
Not Voting:
With 13 alive, Majority (50%+1) is 7.
Day One Deadline is(expired on 2016-12-16 19:00:00)
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I'm good at this. (Fixed, thank you)"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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IIRC he never fullclaimed.In post 1119, culted wrote:
Okay but like he claimed bodyguard. So if he's a scum bodyguard scum still dies if he's saving scum.In post 1100, Andrius wrote:Take this post as you will:
1) The mod could be CHEEKY and add a THERES A CHANCE clause to deliberately leave things open
2) It could not be Jason
3) Role could be scum to protect against a randomly-selected scumdeath, which would be freaking brutal for the scumteam to die randomly
I think he just fakeclaimed whatever tbh.
Or could be lying about his role.
Or fakeclaiming.
There's plenty of COULD BEs, my goal was to address SlySly's WHAT IF with a WELL THIS COULD"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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You're still town.In post 1145, SlySly wrote:
How do you like me now? I'm smelling cologne. Perfume is so much sweeter.In post 1098, Andrius wrote:That's one Hail Mary for ya.
In hindsight, Persivul is town for this.In post 996, Persivul wrote:
The way he's been sucking your dick you should be especially wary of him.In post 995, SlySly wrote:Andrius replaced in late, I can forgive him for an innocent case of iso-fail.
Jason should have spoken up when the truth was brought to light.
VOTE: Winery
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Creature dead.In post 1074, Andrius wrote:TOWN
Pine
drealmerz
Shaziro
culted
SlySly
shadow
Dunn
Kuroi
SCUM
Jason
Persivul
Kuror0
Creature
Jason dead.
Persivul moves up two blocks. Did some reading, confident in a townread on him.
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What is the "another day or two in response to?"In post 1189, drealmerz7 wrote:another day or 2 is good by me
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