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[Garmr]

who wants to play guess the entire scumteam at basically pregame so if you're actually somehow right you may acclaim godtier ring bragging rights

Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly

Those are my guesses for the scum am I right
VOTE: Carcalilly

[Garmr]

Wow

[Garmr]

Not looking like a great RVS, but keep on

I agree creature make rvs dank again

[Garmr]

Not looking like a great RVS, but keep on

I agree creature make rvs dank again

That's not cool

You're not cool

VOTE: creature

[Garmr]

who wants to play guess the entire scumteam at basically pregame so if you're actually somehow right you may acclaim godtier ring bragging rights

Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly
Carcalilly

Those are my guesses for the scum am I right
VOTE: Carcalilly

I remember you from like 2 years ago in a game I played with my alt.

And yes you're totally right I am the entire 7 person scumteam, godfather unlynchable strongman included.

Oh cool which game?

[Garmr]

also want to hop on creature wagon chu chu.

[Garmr]

The one where you got really pissed when we wanted to lynch you.

So which game out of 10000000

[Garmr]

The one where you got really pissed when we wanted to lynch you.

So which game out of 10000000

viewtopic.php?p=7239428#p7239428

Guess who I was :0

Hieirama if so I'm locking you as town because his my fave character from yu yu hakusho.

[Garmr]

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

Garmr has the highest red count. Why aren't you voting there?

Also have you noticed he gave me red points for posting dank memes and my joking rvs. How are dank memes alignment indicative? Jump on the creature train with me.

[Garmr]

"hurr durr my posts aren't AI because they're jokes"

Lol tell me what makes a memes scummy while another null and make sure to point out my intentions. All this With out hitting a negative IQ score please.

[Garmr]

Both votes are bad. At the very least Dvas setup spec is semi game related and semi relevant since it was answering questions from earlier.

Meanwhile garmr has 0 game related posts but it's Nai. Mmk.

And I still catch scum with my NAI posts.

[Garmr]

overwatch is an expensive tf2 ripoff

League of legends is better than over watch.

[Garmr]

That was more so directed to flubber but you can't catch scum if you are scum so consider me unimpressed.

Lets pretend I am scum and bussing a buddy so you can hop on the wagon.

[Garmr]

Heroes of the Storm is a far superior MOBA, don't @ me

Never played it. But I do like diablo 2's necromancer.

[Garmr]

Garmr, do you have an impression of Profii at this point?

Well to be honest he hasn't really done much to catch my eye so I didn't notice him. But I like the attidude of this post.

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

Garmr has the highest red count. Why aren't you voting there?

Have you checked why that might be?

It's a good mind set to be in creature answer to this kinda sucked as it didn't show any intention.

That being said.

I think we are referring to garmr as trolling (I certainly was)

Yes.

Why would it make sense to rate posts as like/dislike as opposed to scummy/not scummy?

@creature can you weigh in on this?

One theory could be that by RAG rating every post you “appear” transparent because you can’t hide your opinion on anything

But calling it like / dislike could be just giving yourself wiggle room if it all goes wrong

It’s tricky to decide because it’s very early and imo it’s not AI to change your mind, so potentially at some point Creature may go “player X was 10-2-1 but Y happened so now the score is 2-4-7” and I’m interested to see if he will overcome that scenario

Idk

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

So my opinion is mixed and I'm trying to sort him out in my head.

[Garmr]

Bah I'm not good at wording my posts some times.

[Garmr]

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

Garmr has the highest red count. Why aren't you voting there?

Have you checked why that might be?

It's a good mind set to be in. Digging deeper than asking why he isn't voting there but why has garmr(me) got a red vote count, does that give him a scum read on the slot ect. Creatures answer to this kinda sucked as it didn't show any intention.

I am having trouble wording my thoughts on the post. But this closest to what I can word.

[Garmr]

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

I dont get this.

Profii made worthwhile accusations that people should be thinking about as the game progresses.

It's more the fact he was talking about finding out deeper intentions earlier but that post does the opposite. It gives creature a plausible intention instead of finding out what his is.

[Garmr]

Hi

Happy birthday to you.

[Garmr]

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

I dont get this.

Profii made worthwhile accusations that people should be thinking about as the game progresses.

It's more the fact he was talking about finding out deeper intentions earlier but that post does the opposite. It gives creature a plausible intention instead of finding out what his is.

I think Creature is town for ~reasons~ I won’t disclose rn

am I making it difficult for you to vote Creature because my ~reasons~ are right?

I'm not sure if your post intended to come out this way but it sounds somewhat passive aggressive. I wouldn't know if your reasons are right it's still somewhat early game. Also I don't mind if you make it difficult for me it creates debate and information.

[Garmr]

Seph - Nos slapfight seems like both town.

I'd be more confident about Sephiroth.

Creature is actually getting scummy in my book. He's keeps flailing when people ask him simple questions to explain what he wrote.

I agree with this but in reverse I'm more confident in Nos than seph. Want to join the creature wagon then apply more pressure?

[Garmr]

I got the urge to lynch faq2 already but that's bitten me in the ass in the past so I'm a little cautious. His throwing out things like why are people townreading RC (kinda throwing doubt) and asking people why they voted someone and hasn't thrown one of his own opinions out yet despite reaching the 253 mark at least.

So faq2 what do you think of creature and seph since your brought them up?

[Garmr]

Hi, I'm here

But are you.

[Garmr]

If I wasn't already voting ofrhz, I would probably be starting now.
Pretty underwhelming imo.

I think Creature is getting rather easy town reads considering he's been all over the place early on

This deserves its own post

Spoiler:

meeeh

i don't think #187 was a good post either.

VOTE: Maxous

I'll throw a question back at yah. I don't get what's scummy about that post seems kinda null. Can you explain to me so I get your POV.

[Garmr]

he dared disparage the towniness of ofhrz

and you find that scummy because or is that more of a joke vote?

Honestly some of maxous thoughts have resonated with mine like the bolded section of this.

If I wasn't already voting ofrhz, I would probably be starting now.
Pretty underwhelming imo.

I think Creature is getting rather easy town reads considering he's been all over the place early on

Seph - Nos slapfight seems like both town.

I'd be more confident about Sephiroth.

Creature is actually getting scummy in my book. He's keeps flailing when people ask him simple questions to explain what he wrote.

And this but flip nos with seph.

I don't really have a opinion on ohrz through as nothing in their posts has peeked my interest.

[Garmr]

tbh I'm mostly just moving off AP who I'm hoping will now stop hitting on me, Maxous seems like fine wagon but is hardly lockscum

ofhrz is town tho, you must believe in the heart of the cards on that one

I'm indiffrent but ofhrz isn't on my is scum list. Would like to see more posting.

But I can understand somewhat your jump. There really isn't anyone besides creature to me that jumps out as scum even then creatures only kinda scummy.

[Garmr]

I got the urge to lynch faq2 already but that's bitten me in the ass in the past so I'm a little cautious. His throwing out things like why are people townreading RC (kinda throwing doubt) and asking people why they voted someone and hasn't thrown one of his own opinions out yet despite reaching the 253 mark at least.

So faq2 what do you think of creature and seph since your brought them up?

I don't know how to take creature yet. He avoids answering anything in any useful way but that is generally what I have seen creature do in the past.

Seph I have a town read on. I asked that question because later he said he was sheeping. Had those other votes actually had a reason then I would have seen that as scum - you don't have a real read and then sheep without cause.

And don't worry, everyone scum reads me and then lynches me by day 1 or 2. Have not really figured out why yet though. It gets very vexing.

I'm going to put you aside for now and wait till you post more. Tbh I want to get you right for once for bragging rights and so you can't go in the future Garmr always wrong about me (I do this to Titus because she's never been right despite all the games we had:P).

It's also pretty hard to figure out what you are thinking in general so maybe open up dialogue a bit.

[Garmr]

(oh nvm, his avatar is dog, I meant dog whining)

it's a wolf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmr

[Garmr]

@Performer@Nos

What's your opinion on ct this game. All of us were in NY215: HMS Erebus and got bit by him. My opinion is his opening seems different it's a shift from his usual style.

[Garmr]

So

I think we are referring to garmr as trolling (I certainly was)

Yes.

Why would it make sense to rate posts as like/dislike as opposed to scummy/not scummy?

@creature can you weigh in on this?

One theory could be that by RAG rating every post you “appear” transparent because you can’t hide your opinion on anything

But calling it like / dislike could be just giving yourself wiggle room if it all goes wrong

It’s tricky to decide because it’s very early and imo it’s not AI to change your mind, so potentially at some point Creature may go “player X was 10-2-1 but Y happened so now the score is 2-4-7” and I’m interested to see if he will overcome that scenario

Idk

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

So my opinion is mixed and I'm trying to sort him out in my head.

I liked profii's first few posts but I agree with this one.

Ok agree's with me here But what I find odd is

Seph - Nos slapfight seems like both town.

I'd be more confident about Sephiroth.

Creature is actually getting scummy in my book. He's keeps flailing when people ask him simple questions to explain what he wrote.

I agree with this but in reverse I'm more confident in Nos than seph. Want to join the creature wagon then apply more pressure?

garmr is still doing nothing in the pretense of "pressuring" creature because his vote is on him.

This statement doesn't seem consistent from someone who agreed with me on a point earlier on a slot that wasn't creature. Especially since it ignores my interactions with proifi,faq and others that aren't about creature. Sure I do mention creature a lot to drum up support but it wasn't like I exclusively talked about creature to coast by like this post implies.

^While it's possible that a bad town could make the points above i don't think it is when combined with the next point. You would think a town shat would move their vote to me since it's like the only point they made. So I think they were just throwing shade and to afraid to argue with someone like me that goes off and drags people into the spot light.

Regarding your view on shattiel, I think your post is kind of scummy, because at the point of this post, shattiel has only made two posts. I very slightly feel like you're trying to shade shattiel with your post.
But after you made your post, shattiel began posting, which could imply lurking, because if shattiel was simply inactive, she would not have had the time to read that many posts she missed and see your post about her inactivity. If you're town, then I can see a scum shattiel.

lurking = scum seems easy and his read on me is based on someone else meta anyway
His posts was on latest page at that so I saw it while I was scrolling down to post

Tries to justify the fact she was lurking her. But if you notice when shat's name is mentioned they seem to pop up and be more active. I would expect town that lurks to drop a post and not change their activity patterns based on what people say.

UNVOTE:
I'll wait for the sub

Her unvote seems convenient here because being on a slot that's being replaced could earn you the attention of others. But if shat actually scum read the slot why not keep the vote on a scum read replacing out doesn't change the alignment. This shows shat is worried about image.

Should just let the lynch be rather than controlling it

This post feels off but I can't put my finger on it.

@Creature, that chart is for posts you like, don't like, or find neutral, as I've found while Reading through. But why do you say like/don't like rather than scummy or town?
Let me vote you.
VOTE: creature

Just curious, which posts by Garmr do you dislike Creature?
VOTE: AP

Dunno, I'm just counting posts I like, dislike or find null.

This is another reason why I'm townreading creature, which I forgot to point out. This accounts for the fact that not all posts are black and white. He's just stating whether he's liking, not liking, or finding neutral those posts. Town players generally will have a somewhat concrete read, by that I mean they aren't changing opinions too quickly, but they won't be extremely concrete, because there is always other possibilities.

@sephiroth, for some reason, I think your posts were attempting to tunnel. You also took back what you said immediately after. I don't think those are likely to come from someone who is town.
VOTE: sephiroth, at least for now.

I think the Nosferatu and Sephiroth 1v1 could either be a TvT or a SvT. I think it's more of a TvT, though, because it appears more like a misunderstanding. I don't expect two scum to be doing this, though, for that would attract too much attention, especially due to the fact that this 1v1 lasted for a long time in terms of pages, and anyone skimming through the game could have noticed it.

Regarding your view on shattiel, I think your post is kind of scummy, because at the point of this post, shattiel has only made two posts. I very slightly feel like you're trying to shade shattiel with your post.
But after you made your post, shattiel began posting, which could imply lurking, because if shattiel was simply inactive, she would not have had the time to read that many posts she missed and see your post about her inactivity. If you're town, then I can see a scum shattiel.

I've been taking a look at few isos I think someone may have pointed this out before? Not sure

But you voted him for the same reason you townread him later?

I don't think your question to creature even clarified anything.
Then theres Seph push then pull also the posts in reply to AP's about me.
Theres alot of throwing shits to see what sticks.
xx2008 is prob a newbie but I don't think he deserves a vip pass

This just seems like a attempt to look like they are doing something under pressure. The points in the post just seem like throwing shade as shat doesn't say his scum but throws a lot of points together. Some of them I can agree (bolded) with but 1 or 2 good points aren't exclusively town It's how they are handled and I don't think the

VOTE: Shattiel

[Garmr]

It's how they are handled and I don't think they are handling it the town way.

[Garmr]

Hi

Want to respond to my case?

[Garmr]

I'm actually around cos I don't have anything to do the whole day

Anyway the first case thats me throwing shade alright I just want to see you somewhere. I see you just getting comfy on the spot.
And tbf the statement that I agreed is just an answer because you were asked.
The second one thats not me justifying I'm just saying that theres no formula that lurking always = scum

"I would expect town that lurks to drop a post and not change their activity patterns based on what people say."

- it's just more of a fact that I get involved into conversations more when people are talking about me..

"But if shat actually scum read the slot why not keep the vote on a scum read replacing out doesn't change the alignment. This shows shat is worried about image."

- and what you gonna scum read the new person who doesnt know anything about a post he didnt make?
It's better to give him some space because even if the alignment is the same he's not the same person.

And the last one.. when am I under pressure?
Rathe than shade thats just me pointing out what I found in his iso and no I'm not calling him scum he's leaning there but nah it's not good enough for me to scream a lynch.. just like your case. BOOM pewpew

So you think I'm comfy on my spot so your reaction is to throw shade and not follow up that doesn't sound logical. Also it doesn't matter if I asked you weren't the one asking so you responding is just the same.

You say it wasn't you justifying lurking doesn't mean it wasn't justifying as you are implying "town can do this so ignore me doing it basically."

Alignment doesn't change with replacements I would pressure the person coming in or move to a different scum read till they come back then push them some more. You did neither.

Pressure is because you are starting to pop up in peoples post so you start posting more. It's like when someone calls your name you post.

It's how they are handled and I don't think they are handling it the town way.

lets throw some questions back
@Garmr how do you think a "town" should handle it?
How is it scummy anyway?

Town would use what is posted to make a conclusion. It's just a bunch of points with no conclusion left there. You don't mention if you scum read the slot or not. If you do scum read the slot why not put a vote there since your not voting anyone and if you are null or town reading why don't you mention it. It's like you don't care what alignment the slot is.

[Garmr]

pirana plant made it into smash bros.

[Garmr]

#529 (just gonna do this to prevent quote walls)
Yes thats me poking you.
Its not a scumread anyway so why should I follow up?

You said you were throwing shade before. What did you get out the poke? Despite it being somewhat of a misrep you didn't produce anything out of it. You didn't poke even more when

"You say it wasn't you justifying lurking doesn't mean it wasn't justifying as you are implying "town can do this so ignore me doing it basically."

- Nah his point is different it's "He could be lurking so he could be scum" go read his post.

Doesn't change your defence. Also I noted what I think a town lurker would of done you ignored that.

i]"Alignment doesn't change with replacements I would pressure the person coming in or move to a different scum read till they come back then push them some more. You did neither."[/i] - The person isn't even here yet -.- I wouldn't pressure just for the sake of pressure anyway. If you think I'm so sure of my read that I want blood on that slot then sorry but no its just a thing I noticed when I first came in.
And I was looking for reads thats what the isos are for.

This is like cherry picking a bit. Why didn't you shift your vote to someone you scum read or wanted to get info out then?

Pressure because I post when I get called? Even if you post memes as long as I get mentioned I'll reply to it.

So your not proactive ok then.

And the last one as I said earlier it's just what I thought about his iso just laying it out there for everyone to see if you call it scummy just because I didn't input what I think about his alignment then lol.

Then your just throwing stuff out there to try and look like your doing something. Your not trying to work towards solving this game.

[Garmr]

you're worrying me, garmr...

If I had a dollar for every time I heard that.

[Garmr]

@Performer@Nos

What's your opinion on ct this game. All of us were in NY215: HMS Erebus and got bit by him. My opinion is his opening seems different it's a shift from his usual style.

Still trying to figure him out . The only meta I got so far is his town meta of newbie 1882, and scum meta that we just came from.
I don't get how his opening is a shift from his usual style .

He didn't do his question thingy or some variation he went straight into it.

[Garmr]

I have no idea if that's all scum indicative for you but yes yes you're simply a worrisome person

If your talking about my aggressiveness I would like to say it's a town tell but that would be lying. It's NAI because I'm aware of it and I don't plan on changing it up for either alignment since it's my style.

[Garmr]

I noticed! You can only get that char if you buy before 1-31-19 iirc . I still have the ssb on n3ds, I just like how 8 chars can play altogether on a screen. I like playing with and against the AI

After that date you have to pay for him.

hi guys

Yo

[Garmr]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sigh I hate these types of responses it kills the flow of information that's outputted.

[Garmr]

Was going to wall for Shattiel but the gist of it is: wtf is your play.

When I think of scum objectives, confusion is one and that's all I get when I consider what you're doing. The whole don't look at me but look at me thing with all of the pseudoclaims.

I don't really care much of everyone else finds it nai or that you're trying to bait a nk (you aren't). It's literal active lurking.

Why is seph town in seph v nos but nos isn't? Why is seph town at all. Why are you and Max so friendly without engaging each other? What makes Garmr looking for more pressure on his scumread scummy?

Why is AP getting scummier everytime he posts?

Confusion being one of scum objectives seems very textbook I know this may sound wifom coming from me but have you actually seen scum sacrifice their own play just to confuse people? If anything it should be self preservation that comes first before they'd even think about doing it.
Anyway people seem to think that every post should have a game solving reason hidden behind it but I just fuck around too much sorry bout that.

Seph is town cos I can see his tunnel was him just being attentive to details like when nos just called out that thing(I forgot)
Nos response I just don't see anything towny so null

Are the other questions for me?
Max and I are actually masons

I just had a game where I mislynched masons and now shat premature claims what is it with me and fucking up masons.

Unvote Shattiel

[Garmr]

Plus side my unstated gut feeling of maxous being town becuase he was in sync with some of my thoughts was right.

[Garmr]

Shatt you DO know if you joke about pr claims, an actual pr might be outed. You know that...right??

inb4 ct/garm/nos/saud/(lapsa) say "oh there is traditional Performer again"

I didn't think people would actually believe that. I was just being sarcastic lol
Shouldn't have done that here my bad ;p

Thank fuck I didn't fuck over masons again.

VOTE: Shattiel

[Garmr]

The one that says "wait for maxous to confirm the masonry and do something else in the meantime"

I want to see max's response about what shattiel just did.

Going to be honest While I think shat is scummy for what they did earlier this is NAI to me.

[Garmr]

The one that says "wait for maxous to confirm the masonry and do something else in the meantime"

I want to see max's response about what shattiel just did.

Going to be honest While I think shat is scummy for what they did earlier this is NAI to me.

What's nai? Her joking about pr claims?

Yeah that.

[Garmr]

The one that says "wait for maxous to confirm the masonry and do something else in the meantime"

garm or trustworthy?
When did you start townreading one or both of them?

What

Yeah I’d like this question answered as well. When you said “town play,” it read like possible tmi

I didn't notice that but yeah that would be nice.

[Garmr]

you're making me paranoid

can anybody somewhat perceive a garmr/dva association

If you're paranoid why don't you start asking me question or make a case ect?

[Garmr]

Shattiel
Creature

Carcalilly

RCEnigma
profii
Garmr
DVa

Sephiroth

AP

Performer

Nosferatu

Flubbernugget
Completly Trustworthy
xx2008
ofrhz
Maxous
Saudade
Flavor Leaf
FA_Q2
Inferno390

So who's lynch worthy the ones striked or the ones left bare?

[Garmr]

The unstriked

Flavour leaf is Innocent child.

[Garmr]

What do you think about Carcalilly?

I don't know just says she's paranoid about me. Wish she would make some effort to try and sort me so I can get a reading of her alignment. If I would have to compromise on her slot I would because anyone that scum reads me and is not a town read can get lynched.

[Garmr]

you only need one my dear

Not really.

According to MensXP.com, you gotta hang out with more of them so the target woman senses a competition.

Did you know with the these 10 easy steps you can

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[Garmr]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

Does it even matter if you said tonight or not?

[Garmr]

Anyone bothered that AP is suggesting a direction for any potential investigations here

Did I say "tonight" though?

Does it even matter if you said tonight or not?

Of course it does. If a Mason flips BEFORE they are checked then obviously there is no need to check the other. Also not specifying when to do the check doesn't take away the option for the investigative ti check wherever they like at any given night, including N1.

Me saying the duo could be verified with one check is more of a justification to leave them alone than it is "directing an investigative" to do a check on them.

But if you believed the mason claim why would there be a cop?

[Garmr]

But if you believed the mason claim why would there be a cop?

Ask Flavor Leaf.

Oh Oh I think I got yah

Anyway I would of been more sceptical of a set up with innocent child,masons and a cop of some sorts.

[Garmr]

Trustworthy's thought process is too simple but I trust that he actually believes what he's saying.

Trust me, CT is anything but simple. Learned the hard way in his scum game.
He's become a town lean for me in this game .

VOTE: Flubbernugget

I'm not that good at reading flubber. I will compromise on his lynch but I feel like shat is better lynch as there is no resistance to the flubber wagon and isn't really informal compared to shat.

[Garmr]

I don't have much to add at the moment kinda pissed at RC for comments made in a game that just finished. What a tool.

[Garmr]

I thought nos vs seph was a town vs town to be honest. His defeatist attitude (1042) is kinda strange but I don't feel it's really alignment indicative with him being the main wagon. As I can get the same way when I'm a wagon as town.

This is how the wagon looks like to me

Sephiroth

(7):

Creature

;profii;

Flavor Leaf

;

Saudade

;DVa;ofrhz;Performer;

I'm going to say saudade is town because his not playing the same way in this game as his last scum game. I think I got a grasp on how he plays.

I think the fact a scum read of mine is on it early on it enforces my town read on the slot.

[Garmr]

What madman has the audacity to call both Garmr and Carcalilly "genuine"?

Am I not genuine?

[Garmr]

It feels a bit off normally when people scum read me I'm wagoned and there's a big argument but no one's wagoning me. I

[Garmr]

It feels a bit off normally when people scum read me I'm wagoned and there's a big argument but no one's wagoning me. I

let us start
VOTE: garmr

Good now tell me why I'm scum? Lets get those conversation juices flowing.


Hmm are flubber and ofrhz are final wagons, man those are both compromise lynches.

Flubber-Is a low information lynch but his always going to be nagging and not telling through out the days.

Ohrz-Is probably more informational because his more controversial with more mixed reads on him. Nothing he has done has peaked my interest through. I'm not sure he will turn out in the future since I haven't played with him from memory.

I'm almost willing to flip a coin.

[Garmr]

So, today seems to be between ofrhz & Flubber?

I'll start reading there. Anyone care to tell me anything about it while I'm reading up?

Thanks!

who are you going to vote?

[Garmr]

119- Relatively hollow and untrue remark

140- Fencey

141- Callback; which I often see as nerve-caused

167- More mellow than I'd expect.

521- A decent amount of painting and a handful of sideremarks(seemly very careful to avoid wrongness or contradiction)

545- Repetition

1151- "SWNST"


Also, are your joke posts and serious posts always so contrastic?

Wait 119

Both votes are bad. At the very least Dvas setup spec is semi game related and semi relevant since it was answering questions from earlier.

Meanwhile garmr has 0 game related posts but it's Nai. Mmk.

And I still catch scum with my NAI posts.

What fucking bullshit is that point. it was halfy jokey and half true I still scum read creatures slot. The point was he tried to say none alignment indicative post were scummy and never explained why thus catching him. He gave a bullshit answer like gut. WTF are you smoking.

140. Yeah I was undecided on the slot I'm still a bit undecided I am on on the fence. But why is that scummy?

141-I do this as town and in general when talking about none mafia things. It's nai.

167-Because I wanted information out of him and I felt the honey approach may work.

521-Fuck off how dare you dismiss my case as painting. I put fucking time and effort and beliefs into that. That case is probably one of the best cases in the game and something you can only dream about achieving in your life.

545- of course their be repetition we are fucking discussing and debating 521 WTF.

1151-what's SWNST?

[Garmr]

1. I'm pretty sure that's not what he was trying to say. Your response honestly makes no sense to me still.

2. You can say you're undecided with a lot less words than what you used. You turn it one way and another and it almost looked informational, if you were skimming.

3. But we are talking about Mafia....

4. You sure you weren't buddying?

5. I got Garmr grumpy.
Perhaps you were being a little too passionate because some if your assumptions were reachy.

6. Orrr you just ran out of things to say and fluffed it up?

7. Scum would never say that.

1.You accusation makes no sense it's fucking dumb.

2.I like using words it helps people understand my thought processes. Not everyone is like stunted like you.

3.If I do it outside of mafia and in mafia games no matter the alignment. Then It's just something I do not hard to put two and two together. Well for a normal person.

4. Buddying someone by telling them they are suspicious and calling them out if I knew it was that simple earlier. I was referring to presenting myself as nicer than normal instead of in your face, I think you don't even think about what your posting and your trying to throw mud with buzz words at this point

5.They aren't reachy! Reachy would be a example of your posting.

6.If i'm debating my points with the person to discuss if they are valid or not giving them a chance to defend themselves then of course I would repeat them. You're just throwing mud here again.


7.Oh ok. Meh I think any alignment would say that if they noticed something off but ok.


VOTE: Carlilly

Your constant shading in the background and rushed case to vote me when I called for it come from scum. As you can't even explain them decently and points change so it's like you didn't think them out.

[Garmr]

521-Fuck off how dare you dismiss my case as painting. I put fucking time and effort and beliefs into that. That case is probably one of the best cases in the game and something you can only dream about achieving in your life.

This statement doesn't seem consistent from someone who agreed with me on a point earlier on a slot that wasn't creature. Especially since it ignores my interactions with proifi,faq and others that aren't about creature. Sure I do mention creature a lot to drum up support but it wasn't like I exclusively talked about creature to coast by like this post implies.

^While it's possible that a bad town could make the points above i don't think it is when combined with the next point. You would think a town shat would move their vote to me since it's like the only point they made. So I think they were just throwing shade and to afraid to argue with someone like me that goes off and drags people into the spot light.

Tries to justify the fact she was lurking her. But if you notice when shat's name is mentioned they seem to pop up and be more active. I would expect town that lurks to drop a post and not change their activity patterns based on what people say.

Her unvote seems convenient here because being on a slot that's being replaced could earn you the attention of others. But if shat actually scum read the slot why not keep the vote on a scum read replacing out doesn't change the alignment. This shows shat is worried about image.

This post feels off but I can't put my finger on it.

This just seems like a attempt to look like they are doing something under pressure. The points in the post just seem like throwing shade as shat doesn't say his scum but throws a lot of points together. Some of them I can agree (bolded) with but 1 or 2 good points aren't exclusively town It's how they are handled and I don't think they are handling it the town way.

bro please don't tell me you put time, effort, and beliefs into 6 points lmfao

one of which being

This post feels off but I can't put my finger on it.

another is BEETLEJUICE


BRO0O0O0O0O0

Fuck off nos 521 is solid and I would say better than what you been doing all game. You picked the weakest thing to give shit about as well because even I admit that's only a gut thing and not a point.

[Garmr]

Fuck off how dare you dismiss my case as painting. I put fucking time and effort and beliefs into that. That case is probably one of the best cases in the game and something you can only dream about achieving in your life.

Completely independent of what I think of this snippet...holy shit, is there any mafiascum specific copypasta that gets thrown around here? Because this would be a serious candidate for the first. I halfway expected him to start talking about how many confirmed kills he has lol

Did you know I was in Vanilla mafia 82467824862487 that was a devastating game town were dying left or right but it was who carried them through.

Also I think the problem isn't with 521 being an okay post it is with the way you described it as the holy grail of scumhunting.

Because I'm a mafia saint. If you don't believe me look at the pictures I posted in HMS Erebus (excuses to use them again)

[Garmr]

Funny enough everyone with a dog themed avi was town in that game and scum had cat avis (except lapsa he was town)

[Garmr]

Fuck off nos 521 is solid and I would say better than what you been doing all game. You picked the weakest thing to give shit about as well because even I admit that's only a gut thing and not a point.

why are you so defensive over literally 4 points

i didnt even read it, idek if its solid, but for damn sure its not worth getting worked up about

Because I did put effort into those I spent a hour writing up that post thinking and rethinking if the points made her scum or not and they are just being dismissed like they were nothing. I made it as hard hitting as I could I felt I was onto something.

[Garmr]

......

[Garmr]

Besides pissing you off, Garmr, I didn't mean to do that. But it's good to see you passionate about it again.

I'm just going to say this in advance I get really passionate so If I say something hurtful don't it personally because I won't mean it that way.

[Garmr]

Besides pissing you off, Garmr, I didn't mean to do that. But it's good to see you passionate about it again.

I'm just going to say this in advance I get really passionate so If I say something hurtful don't take it personally because I won't mean it that way.

Fixed

[Garmr]

Besides pissing you off, Garmr, I didn't mean to do that. But it's good to see you passionate about it again.

I'm just going to say this in advance I get really passionate so If I say something hurtful don't it personally because I won't mean it that way.

I'm actively trying to be less of a toxic piece of shit, so I can relate. Not saying you are one of those, but I certainly am

Oh I can be toxic sometimes.

[Garmr]

1.You accusation makes no sense it's fucking dumb.

2.I like using words it helps people understand my thought processes. Not everyone is like stunted like you.

3.If I do it outside of mafia and in mafia games no matter the alignment. Then It's just something I do not hard to put two and two together. Well for a normal person.

4. Buddying someone by telling them they are suspicious and calling them out if I knew it was that simple earlier. I was referring to presenting myself as nicer than normal instead of in your face, I think you don't even think about what your posting and your trying to throw mud with buzz words at this point

5.They aren't reachy! Reachy would be a example of your posting.

6.If i'm debating my points with the person to discuss if they are valid or not giving them a chance to defend themselves then of course I would repeat them. You're just throwing mud here again.


7.Oh ok. Meh I think any alignment would say that if they noticed something off but ok.


VOTE: Carlilly

Your constant shading in the background and rushed case to vote me when I called for it come from scum. As you can't even explain them decently and points change so it's like you didn't think them out.

1. I noticed it was jokey but it was subliminally awkward enough to make me shifty. The phrase "catch scum" I found to be an odd choice considering what you were responding to.

2. What gets me is how you made it/hinted how clear your reasons and opinions were but later dissed it as "mixed opinions". Almost gives me a sense of fear of read commitment.

3. I get how its hard to type your mind but man. You're kind of judging how bad it all is, but why would town be so critical of their posts? The only reason why I'd see anyone be so careful to point out and "accept" the nitches in their posts is if they were scum and didn't want someone else to point it out. If you do this all the time then it's a pretty scummy habit.

4. Scum would only buddy town. Town wants to lynch scum. Isn't kindly calling them out a subtle way to achieve both? Reading through your iso it does sort of stick out like a sore thumb. But you're not wrong with me throwing mud at you, there's a method to this madness.

5. "I'm not __, you're __!"
But really, in my opinion they're reachy. If course it wouldn't seem like that to you but heed to what i've said and do a retake on the more literal sides of things.

6. But you made it look like a case. A recycled case. Perhaps it wasn't you're intention, but how am I supposed to know that?

7. It really needs to be an official acronym.

1. I have a scum read on the slot so I caught scum

2.Not really a fear of commitment. Just I have the urge to town read the slot but that one post is off putting enough to make double take. I'm putting him off till tomorrow.

3.I find it good to be critical of your own posts. If someone misunderstands your posts it leads to worthless chatter and misunderstandings.

4.Hmm I guess but that wasn't my intention to be buddy buddy. I was attempting to lure out something I can use to grasp a read on him but I never got it and it's kinda not worth pursing at the moment. I'll just figure it out naturally.

5.My thinking is consider outside the box people call it reachy sometimes but it worked out in previous instances and sometimes it doesn't. (Like my scum read of malakittens in hms nacho can confirm.)

6. I think I got the issue here. Did you read my post in ISO instead of page to page. Because I feel like if you were reading page by page it would be easy to figure see it was a debate over the post and her defence.

UNVOTE: Carlilly


I liked this response. I think it's her thought process's don't mesh with mine.

[Garmr]

There's so many flubber counter wagons popping up I feel it's best to just lynch flubber.
VOTE: Flubber

[Garmr]

Well L-1 since Garmr neglected it.

Sorry I was tired from work. it was like 12 am when I got posted. It's like 5 am now. I only woke up because I was woken up by someone else so still a bit groggy.

[Garmr]

This only hit me after flubbers lynch and I promised that I would reread you to get a clearer read on you but.

What up

Someone do me a favour. I pretty much stick to 13p games where there is typically 3 scum - what is typical here please? I want to work on the basis there are likely X scum until evidence shows otherwise

Do you really need to call a scumteam d1?

Do you think anyone could possibly do that?

No

Which is why I'm curious as to why you need to work from that basis

It’s probably the opposite - someone will say something like “X could be one of the 5 scums”

Then someone is all like “woah 5? 19p is usually 4 -

that dudes informed”

Etc

I just wanted to see what people’s opinions of “normal” is - more for later than rn

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

I dont get this.

Profii made worthwhile accusations that people should be thinking about as the game progresses.

It's more the fact he was talking about finding out deeper intentions earlier but that post does the opposite. It gives creature a plausible intention instead of finding out what his is.

I think Creature is town for ~reasons~ I won’t disclose rn

am I making it difficult for you to vote Creature because my ~reasons~ are right?

I'm not sure if your post intended to come out this way but it sounds somewhat passive aggressive. I wouldn't know if your reasons are right it's still somewhat early game. Also I don't mind if you make it difficult for me it creates debate and information.

i like to bait a bit

I think I'm sheeping ofrhz jumping to a conclusion, could just be wrong,

but i wondered if you were informed

if you reacted in a way that might reinforce the ~reason~ actually being right.

we will find out later, still not worth a lynch right now

I had 2 thoughts:
The statement you made could almost be a trap because you made 15 posts - if I can read you correctly -right now- then you could go “

you must be informed”

Else you’re basically saying don’t scum read me please or I will shade the bejebus out of you

I kinda think that’s either a very carefully constructed ploy to shade me or you just mean how will I read you as the game goes on


Based a lot on that last post, I don’t think you were being intentionally conniving - but I had forgotten we have scummed together so I’m going to go read back and see what I think about that

My read on Creature is kinda reset because I dismissed my mason theory so I still think that’s a bit early to say

I assume you mean garmr (lol) _ I like what I see so far

FYI I think when RCE resigned Flubber to a compromise lynch it came across as

informed

There's two options I have thought of one

1.you mentioned flubber first who would be your scum buddy in this scenario and you were trying to get the informed information leaked through the thread by mentioning it multiple times.

2.You were hunting for for informed people.


Out of those two number 2 is flawed. Because if you were informed there was a informed person why not tell town you were informed of a informed person who may be scum? Since you were hunting them down.

[Garmr]

@profi
I wanted to ask your reasoning before I made judgement.

[Garmr]

Also AP...are you saying daychat and pregame chats are the same? It appears like that's what you're saying. Which is absolutely bizarre because you're a veteran, and this just looks a fake forced questioning.

Prechat
Day chat
Night chat

They're different.

AP is not off the hook. Waiting to see more as not everyone has chimed in yet.

Wouldn't it be simple quick and direct to ask the mod if scum had access to pregame chat to cut short all these what ifs and buts?


@the mod
did scum have access to pregame chat?

[Garmr]

VOTE: Profii
I was going to wait for a reaction but I changed my mind and feel it would be better to apply pressure. Espically after

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

I dont get this.

Profii made worthwhile accusations that people should be thinking about as the game progresses.

Flubber was passively defensive of profii as well but never really gives profii a town read or mention after I put profii in the lime light. It seems like a topic he wanted to avoid.

[Garmr]

I was refraining from reading ap because I thought he was a cop.

But if you believed the mason claim why would there be a cop?

Ask Flavor Leaf.

Oh Oh I think I got yah

Anyway I would of been more sceptical of a set up with innocent child,masons and a cop of some sorts.

But today he seems to have some knowledge of the scum thread as he knew scum have no pregame chat (unless they have day chat). When most mods allow pre game chat.

This game feels off as it seems like quite a few players have information that townies shouldn't know aka Profii and Ap

[Garmr]

Prodge, not feeling too good today, I'll try to post something meaningful tomorrow

get well soon

[Garmr]

VOTE: Profii
I was going to wait for a reaction but I changed my mind and feel it would be better to apply pressure. Espically after

This I don't like as it's trying to explain creatures actions despite him saying earlier it's better to ask why.

I dont get this.

Profii made worthwhile accusations that people should be thinking about as the game progresses.

Flubber was passively defensive of profii as well but never really gives profii a town read or mention after I put profii in the lime light. It seems like a topic he wanted to avoid.

Since you're my goto town I may make you a double voter day 3 if this wagon doesn't go through today.

Oh I was really going for that mysterious appeal.

But why aren't you paranoid about me anymore?

[Garmr]

I dont coast like this as scum : *(
this is literally the first time I'm trying this playstyle as either alignment simply because we have a confirmed clear from the very beginning of the game

I'm hoping if I call you town enough times scum will be forced to make you eat a bullet.

[Garmr]

But sausade I still believe you wouldn't do this as scum through. I think you are more likely to hard bus.

[Garmr]

I am a multitasking JOAT.

I jailkept FL, voyeured Nos, tracked maxous, and motion detected AP.
Nos was because he was one of my earliest townreads in here & other people were tring him, so I thought scum might visit him somehow.
Max because FL dubbed him scum so I trusted in that.
AP - I don't think I need to further explain why I detected him of all the players lol.

So what were were the results of each?

[Garmr]

Voyeur would just be a watcher no?

yeah voyeur just sounds lewd >//<

The Voyeur learns what actions were performed on a player, but not who targeted them
The Watcher learns who targeted a player, but not what actions were performed on them.

[Garmr]

I am a multitasking JOAT.

I jailkept FL, voyeured Nos, tracked maxous, and motion detected AP.
Nos was because he was one of my earliest townreads in here & other people were tring him, so I thought scum might visit him somehow.
Max because FL dubbed him scum so I trusted in that.
AP - I don't think I need to further explain why I detected him of all the players lol.

So what were were the results of each?

I do want those results through.

[Garmr]

I want the results now because I want something to work with. I'm a better player when I have information and it sucks when I lack it.

[Garmr]

-So, with xx not voting flubb as of the eod 1 wagon on
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77628&p=10548728#p10548728

and my case on him, xx2008 is absolutely a candidate.

-@Garm.....I feel like nos/max/ap should chime in about me targeting 3 of them, before I say my results...
-Also need to re ISO those 3. Something doesn't feel right

I will disagree with waiting because it's really important you read them out now.

[Garmr]

The results from Not Known 15 on the below:

voyeur on nosferatu - did not see anything, tracker on maxous - did not see anything, motion detector on ap - motion detected.

Oh I thought you had a scum slip up there and I was ready to unleash a whole bunch of hurt but I think I was wrong.

M A F I A ROLECOP

COMMITTED THE NK ON DVA

Note to self: if scum had a rolecop, strongman, and informed, that would actually make a ton of sense considering the flipped rolestopper with an IC.[/spoiler]
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Carca where are you.

I thought you were the mafia role cop or watcher and slipped up with your fake claim. I thought you didn't know what detector was and was going to claim you could see his action. Then I would been like busted that's not how that role works.

[Garmr]

In that scenario Ap would of been a town power role and have a role that would of most likely targeted or you were a watcher made the kill with a strong arm while watching dva to see if a doctor or another role existed.

[Garmr]

I was getting excited because I thought I caught scum what a let down. Anyway why claim now? Why not keep doing your night actions your results are kinda meh I would of tracked ap after to see if he does have actions.

[Garmr]

In that scenario Ap would of been a town power role and have a role that would of most likely targeted or you were a watcher made the kill with a strong arm while watching dva to see if a doctor or another role existed.

That's what I'm worried about, that he was a tpr and I would've accidentally outed him today.

But with the way things have been going and the result on him, I seriously doubt he's town.
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@FL I dont remember him being OMGUS in that newbie game with varsoon.... As of today he seems to be bleeding the rookie aura a ton.
He did have ofrhz & dva scum, but I just figured scum wouldn't have objections to killing 1 of who they had as an sr

It's also possible he is a vanilla townie and someone targeted him. Which is why I think you should of waited plus I think it's possible that he was todays lynch with out the results.

[Garmr]

On the subject of the AP motion detector result, I believe Performer for now because he has nothing to gain from this as scum

. Since we know of three town power roles already, its unlikely a town PR visited him in my opinion.

Also, I do agree with some of the cases on him and am okay with pushing him.
VOTE: AP

While I agree that ap is scummy I think the bolded is wrong. As one town power role already targeted him (performer) and Dva had a scum read on him so I wouldn't be surprised if she visited him to. Also if say he is town it doesn't rule out the option scum may of visited him. I thought he was a cop yesterday so what's stopping scum from thinking the same.

That being said

But today he seems to have some knowledge of the scum thread as he knew scum have no pregame chat (unless they have day chat). When most mods allow pre game chat.

I think this is the best reason in my opinion to vote him at the moment.
VOTE: Ap

[Garmr]

UNVOTE: AP
hmm I need to think about this.

[Garmr]

Ok I been thinking. That we should leave ap and performer slot off the lynch table day since they will sort themselves out. Going to be honest I got kinda bored of this game.

[Garmr]

I probably have some bias here but I still think maxous is town. His early reads were similar to mine day 1 and I have a soft spot for that but his latter reads for day 1 branched away from mine and were quite different so I don't feel like he was suckering me in.


The pace is slow this game and there's a couple of people who feel silent. Going to be a hypocrite here and say look at the number of unvotes.


VOTE: Profii

[Garmr]

Also I think profii was sucking up to performer somewhat a bit so I don't think they would be scum together somewhat.

I’ve just realised what’s going on

Ha ha

I figured you were gonna wait to see if anyone, I guess AP slipped in anyway. Boo

[Garmr]

profii(2):Garmr;Performer;

why

Because we want to lynch scum?

[Garmr]

that doesnt really justify vanity votes on a stagnant wagon

It's literally only a vote behind the top wagons (the most being 3) and no ones not going to vote it. The fact you describe it as a vanity wagon is weird also why are you worried that this wagon is not taken off while ignoring other wagons which have less votes?

[Garmr]

Maybe FL wasn't making the play I thought he made yesterday :p

VOTE: Nero

Nero was creature slot right enough said
VOTE: Nero

[Garmr]

that doesnt really justify vanity votes on a stagnant wagon

It's literally only a vote behind the top wagons (the most being 3) and no ones not going to vote it. The fact you describe it as a vanity wagon is weird also why are you worried that this wagon is not taken off while ignoring other wagons which have less votes?

Yet still, that’s a lot of words and not a lot of actual reason
Noted

It says that's it's not a stagnant wagon. Can't understand basic concepts noted.

[Garmr]

sigh can we get this day over already I'm bored of it.

[Garmr]

VOTE: profii

[Garmr]

I propose I should target RCE. RCE targets Garmr/Saudade. Gamma is also on RCE. Performer does what he wants.

The reason I want Garmer/Saudade checked is their votes on profii suck. I'm not buying Saudade playing the sheep all the time, and Garmr basically sneaked into the wagon out of nowhere.

But maybe I should think more about it to make use of Performer's abilities?

P.S. Many of you know why I have been a bit quiet today, but for those who don't, I've been busy preparing for the launch of my new game, setting up PTs (including 3 hydra slots), sending out Role PMs, verifying links in Role PMs for the umpteenth time, etc.

Yeah no fuck off my case on profii was the best one. I been pushing Profii all day.

[Garmr]

i think I'm interested in this game again.

[Garmr]

The more I read Garmrs iso the bigger that wolf avatar gets........requires further testing

It's a scary thing.

[Garmr]

Indeed, thoughts? Now that it's interesting and you guys lynched town?

I don't think we lynched town. What made it interesting was ap accusation that I jumped on with no reasoning to the profi wagon and no one questioned it.

[Garmr]

Wait, what if Profii is mind****ing us and flips scum. And Garmr is his partner?


Nah that's crazy.

What happens if rce is scum and trying to link me as profii partner mind blown.

[Garmr]

Well this was a good talk.

Indeed but want to take bets that profii flips scum. I don't know if will but i think it's obvious his flubbers partner as he asked flubber about being informed early game. Which I pointed out in earlier posts.

[Garmr]

I did like that read. If he flips scum who do you think his partners are?

I'll probably get shot tonight for this one with a profii scum flip but nos would be one.

the hammer was suss and

profii(2):Garmr;Performer;

why

that doesnt really justify vanity votes on a stagnant wagon

He was attacking the wagon earlier despite not town reading profii reading earlier on with out indicating a change in reads also flubbers town read was suss

creature}
{

flubber,

garmr}
{dva, rce}
{

profii,

lily, max, seph}
{ct}

Nos, Saudade, Gamr ?

Throws nos in there despite advocating he was town all game.

[Garmr]

My result: Garmr didn't do it

Huh?

I don't understand this either? I didn't do it but why target me?

[Garmr]

Cuz you were in my original lynch pool and nothing really cleared you thus far. Why

wouldn't

I target you?

Because I'm town and I thought that was obvious. Why would anyone think I'm scum I don't understand?

[Garmr]

Ok so considering why they chose performer over myself I'm leaning that scum were not in my pool of CT/Shattiel/ofhrz. More confident on Shattiel not being the scum there since I've been pretty against him from day 1. It was safe to assume that would be my check.

That leaves a pool for me of Nero//nos/xx/saudade if I'm forgetting someone remind me I'm blanking.

It's fortunate for us because I can confirm myself as town if I'm not shot tonight giving us a lock town block of Myself, Flavor, CT, Maxous, and possibly one of AP or Gamma. The larger the scumteam the better the chances are of flipping scum today anyways. I don't want to spend today talking about who Performer might have blocked because it's just wifom, we don't know.

But for the record how does the interaction of roleblocker blocking another roleblocker work?

Fixed this for you removed the obvious townie.

[Garmr]

I propose I should target RCE. RCE targets Garmr/Saudade. Gamma is also on RCE. Performer does what he wants.

The reason I want Garmer/Saudade checked is their votes on profii suck. I'm not buying Saudade playing the sheep all the time, and Garmr basically sneaked into the wagon out of nowhere.

But maybe I should think more about it to make use of Performer's abilities?

P.S. Many of you know why I have been a bit quiet today, but for those who don't, I've been busy preparing for the launch of my new game, setting up PTs (including 3 hydra slots), sending out Role PMs, verifying links in Role PMs for the umpteenth time, etc.

Yeah no fuck off my case on profii was the best one. I been pushing Profii all day.

Wrt the Profii Lynch this is probably your towniest post. Being adamant about your case catching scum and that Profii would flip scum seems like town thinking they're right.

But that doesn't take you out of my Lynch pool. If it makes you feel any better I would Lynch at least nos, saudade, Nero, carca before you.

Oh Carca wasn't on your list but then again I forgot about carca existence till you mentioned them as well.

[Garmr]

Cara has site flaked, i think.

she did mention that in her last post here that she was busy.

[Garmr]

VOTE: Nero Cain
choo choo

[Garmr]

VOTE: Nero Cain
choo choo

Words or die.

Pretty obvious why I would vote you if you read my posts.

[Garmr]

Why not engage me? What are you afraid of?

I'm not afraid to engage but I'm to lazy to repeat myself. But I been scum reading your slot the whole game and there's plenty of posts if you go through my iso.

[Garmr]

Been saying since day 1 nero was scum

[Garmr]

VOTE: Shat
I'm not confident in rce being scum but sausade is townie in my books and shat has done nothing to prove she is town.

[Garmr]

Have others actually done anything to prove they're town @garmr
Except FL ofc

My gut says sausade is town

[Garmr]

Have others actually done anything to prove they're town @garmr
Except FL ofc

My gut says sausade is town

Same. Are you thinking AP is likely town, or possible scum?

A DISloyal RB sounds a bit farfetched to be honest especially with a rolebloicker flip I would expect Ap to mirror the roleblocker that already flipped with the current duoality flips. So they are on my lynch list.

[Garmr]

Have others actually done anything to prove they're town @garmr
Except FL ofc

My gut says sausade is town

Same. Are you thinking AP is likely town, or possible scum?

A DISloyal RB sounds a bit farfetched to be honest especially with a rolebloicker flip I would expect Ap to mirror the roleblocker that already flipped with the current duoality flips. So they are on my lynch list.

What flipped RB?

DVa she was a roleblocker right?

[Garmr]

@Sausade

[Garmr]

VOTE: Ap
I still don't think disloyal roleblocker works in this scenario.

[Garmr]

Flavour no offence but your points are shit. Jus tbe honest and say you're POEing (even through you are wrong.)

[Garmr]

xx2008(2):

Nero Cain

;Maxous;

Saudade(3):xx2008;RCEnigma;AP;

Nero Cain

(3):

Shattiel;Gamma Emerald

;Garmr;

RCEnigma(2):

Flavor Leaf

;Saudade;

Not Voting(4):

ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy;Nosferatu;Carcalilly;

So once again Garmr is the last one unflipped on a wagon.

With Nero up top on xx, I expect the other scum is Saudade or on the Saudade wagon, which again comes back to AP.

He might indeed be scum bussing his partner. Considering that the lynch failed, it wouldn't have been too risky for him to bus his partner.

I been pushing nero slot all game why doesn't anyone listen to me