Large Normal 216 - Endgame

[Shattiel]

(I also still need a hydra partner for that fucking hydra event)

fuck the hydra just create an alt then play it alone

[Garmr]

(oh nvm, his avatar is dog, I meant dog whining)

it's a wolf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmr

[Shattiel]

Shatti what do u think Nos' role is

idk why do I have to speculate about roles?

dont be such a stick in the mud

okay you can be a cop then.. and I'm Vig.

Carca what do you think shattiel's role is? If you guess right I won't let town lynch you ever.

man I'm trying hard not to be outed as investigative pr here..
Would appreciate it if people stop talking about roles.

[Shattiel]

Why didn't I notice it earlier?

According to the hypothesis it's probably because you're a wolf who's subconciously using tmi thats why your brain refused to perceive the image as wolf when the actual user is just a harmless puppy.. Hmm?

[Shattiel]

(oh nvm, his avatar is dog, I meant dog whining)

it's a wolf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmr

it says wolf or dog but the picture you used is definitely a WOLF

Anyway I don't remember seeing a VC for the past few pages

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.3

xx2008(0):

Performer(1):

Flavor Leaf

;

Carcalilly(1):AP;

Maxous(1):DVa;

Garmr(0):

Inferno390(1):Shattiel;

Creature(2):Garmr;Sephiroth;

Sephiroth(0):

Nosferatu(0):

FA_Q2(0):

AP(2):RCEnigma;Completely Trustworthy;

Shattiel

DS

(1):Flubbernugget;

Completly Trustworthy(2):Nosferatu;profii;

Flavor Leaf(0)

:

profii(0):

Flubbernugget(3):Inferno390;ofrhz;Carcalilly;

DVa(0):

RCEnigma(0):

ofrhz(1):Maxous;

NoLynch(0):

Not Voting(4):Creature;FA_Q2;xx2008;Performer;

With 19 alive it is 10 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2018-11-11 11:11:11) or when a lynch has been achieved.

Inferno390 is being replaced.

[Maxous]

I didn't really like 347, there was a large gap between it and 271, I feel like there should have been a lot to comment on. He scumread Ohrz to begin with because he came in and said very little, so it seems a bit strange for him to go for long stretches without saying anything.

There really wasn't though.
I'm re-skimming that gap now and there was seriously nothing overly meaningful.
And i can't help but notice you don't have your own analysis of that period so..???

I have long stretches cause i'm catching up most of the time.

[Shattiel]

UNVOTE:
I'll wait for the sub

[Maxous]

I'm still not liking Creature who made a weak swipe at Garmr and then just fluff posted the rest.

I don't like the Flubber wagon.

[Carcalilly]

I think the flubber wagon is the best so far

[Carcalilly]

I kind of have bad vibes on DVa but I really don't know why yet...

[Carcalilly]

Is 3 scum, 1 traitor possible with 19?

Not Known 15 tends to go lighter on power, as you can see here:

List with roles:

1.Archwing Vanilla Townie
2.Chumba Vanilla Townie
3.Lalendra Vanilla Townie
4.Sephiroth Vanilla Townie
5.Luca Blight Vanilla Townie
6.TwoInAMillion Vanilla Townie
7.Prism Vanilla Townie
8.Nero Cain Vanilla Townie
9.Leeoon Mafia Goon
10.BuJaber Mafia Goon
11.mozamis Town Day 5 Innocent Child
12.TheGoldenParadox Town 1-shot Rolecop
13.Roy Tagliaferro Town 2-shot Neapolitan

viewtopic.php?p=9912817#p9912817

If NN15 does basically a mountainous in a 13p game, and there is no promise this isn't a mountainous, then it is theoretically possible our scum count may be lower than expected.

HOWEVER, if Pine had influence on the setup design, then we could be looking at a lot more town power and possibly third parties.

Since we have no knowledge of how or why NN15 designed this setup, or how much collaboration went into it (if any), I would say we cannot guarantee there will be a specific number of scum until we have a clearer sense of the setup as a whole.

ehhhhhhhhh

[Performer]

Ok so I have these people who're infamous for being hard to read: faq, garmr, profii, flubber, CT
Reaching out to audience lifeline: if anyone has meta (thanks FL for the reply though) on these 5, please come forward because I'm having trouble with those 5.
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Did a meta lookup of CT's first game (he was town) and it was strikingly same as his scum mini normal game . Sadly, his playstyle typically makes me tr him - which tricked me in a past game. Don't want that to happen again if he's scum this game. No longer a tr for me as the question about inferno replacing out, that's alarming. How can that possibly be AI?? This talk about inferno replacing out as scummy , was alarming.

Garm - I always find it troubling to read him though post d1, he is a little easier to read. He has a specific town tell that I've come to notice, and I think carca did as well?

prof & faq - the latter has more exp with me as both alignments, while I played with faq in a 14-player large when there were 2 scum vigilantes (no longer normal based on my NRG knowledge so far). The former I guess I could judge if he's town based on if he reads me right but I want to hear people's meta accounts of him as well; the latter I am just having a hard time reading still.

FL on Flubber - replied about flubber being difficult to read as either alignment. Though I'm thankful that he tried helping me, I want to see if people have more info on flubber because I want to see if there's more info on that so I can better judge the slot. Otherwise if a slot is still null, I may end up working with my townreads in voting.

Another reason I ask about meta is because (for those who know me well) I don't easily trust null/hard to read slots.

In other news, the tr on creature has changed after an ISO review.
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ofhrz - the host is very serious about his rules so ofrhz's prodge doesn't look right, makes me doubt my tr of him earlier. Prods are given every 36 hours AND prodges don't remove that. That and ofrhz scum meta looks like he tries to stay under the radar, making his prodge look like it comes from scum ofhrz . ofhrz are you town here?

[Carcalilly]

I would label your consistent question asking as a way to push some stuff off yourself but people just tend to randomly pop up in your ISO posts, like, really unprecedented. Idk?

[Carcalilly]

p e r f o r m e r !

[Performer]

Carca! I have only 2 trs

[Carcalilly]

I have 2 many trs xD

[Performer]

update tr:
really liking the 2 people who played in the game where I was Mason, and in the game were davesaz was somehow lynched on d1 (that was an awful lynch btw) - you 2 know who you are

who else I like for town - the person who gets affectionate whenever they see someone familiar in the game

[Carcalilly]

I'm not affectionate I just really like some people

[Performer]

I'm not affectionate I just really like some people

[profii]

The former I guess I could judge if he's town based on if he reads me right


Seems like a trap

[Performer]

The former I guess I could judge if he's town based on if he reads me right


Seems like a trap

profi is my scum game truly that devious ?
If so, I'm flattered I guess? Though I don't think highly of my scum game , ever.

Point I was getting at is certain players are like open books. They don't manipulate their town and scum play that easily. Like myloninja, invisibility, etc. It's not like I'm going to say "oh prof is absolutely scum because he can't read me." Meta is just one of the things I look at . and I would think that since you're the only person who's seen both sides, that you would more easily read me .

I do disagree with your read of creature though. What do you think of grammar?

[profii]

I had 2 thoughts:
The statement you made could almost be a trap because you made 15 posts - if I can read you correctly -right now- then you could go “you must be informed”
Else you’re basically saying don’t scum read me please or I will shade the bejebus out of you

I kinda think that’s either a very carefully constructed ploy to shade me or you just mean how will I read you as the game goes on


Based a lot on that last post, I don’t think you were being intentionally conniving - but I had forgotten we have scummed together so I’m going to go read back and see what I think about that

My read on Creature is kinda reset because I dismissed my mason theory so I still think that’s a bit early to say

I assume you mean garmr (lol) _ I like what I see so far

[Carcalilly]

masons are a myth

[Performer]

@prof I meant how you'll read me

later

on in the game. After all, for some reason you have trouble reading me when I'm town.