Mafia 158: Titanium. Game over

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Will catch-up after work.

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@PM: Tell me your understanding of RVS.

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Who in this game are not low hanging fruit?

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List them.

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List the players who are not low hanging fruit.
(I do not count)

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Work does not end at 1:40pm unfortunately.

I want my list Mollie. It's a very simple request;
List all the people in this game you consider not to be newbies or 'low hanging fruit'

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hikari
smashbard
pacman or whatever he is called
pm
mcstab
pretty much the people who smash did not have in his lynch pile!

oh and maenara, he seems sacred to people.

OK so these 6 out of 16, fine.

I think 3 of those shouldn't be there but we don't need to worry; your perspective is different than mine.

Do you suspect one of the named players? who? why?

And Smash doesn't count unless you suspect him for something other than the '3 newbie scumreads'

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Do you believe one of the more experienced players has to be scum?

Hiraki seems town to me.

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@theomoaner: How many and what games have you played on this site before? I want links to all.

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I do know OMGUS is scummy.

Hello Thurhame, It's not.

do you seriously think that the gm would have 3 newbs as scum against a wall of experienced town?

The pms are completely random basing your reads on things like this is just plain bad.

Now you know this; how does this affect your perspective on things?

There are so many newbies its actually quite hard reading through what is newbness and what is scum in this game.

VOTE: PM

Think PM is just scum here. Lurking out his RVS wagon is majorly scummy; hes been posting onsite etc, his tone matches his scum-tone.

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There is no debate; you are just wrong. Maybe on other sites it happens, but not here.

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Mollie is town I am pretty sure.

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I don't understand why you need to know my avatar although I am fairly sure it was this one.

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When I change my avatar every post I ever made changes to use it, I don't understand why you need to know.

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Triangulating doesn't seem good to me.

What is your opinion on it Jun?

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It is just a compromise lynch with a glorified name. Using it at end of day if needed is probably OK but I don't see a need for it when you should be compromising anyway at that point if not on the main wagons.

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Who do you think is scum Mollie?

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Unvote.

Vote: NJACK

Hello Smash

Why are you voting NJAC?

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Slandaar, i'm going to ask you to refer to my post directly above my vote and that you pay attention from now on.

You quote failed. I see.

You're bossy aren't you?

Yes?

Why do you think scum has daychat?

I decided to read Slandaar ISO and although I need to read others, I see Slandaar is just an one-liner who comes from time to time,

One liners; how is this related to my alignment exactly?
Time to time; I have more posts than you in 1/3 the time. Nice job trying to imply I am lurking though.

Throws a couple of questions and leaves. I think he hasn't contributed a lot, but he wants to look like he's scumhunting. Not sure if that's the right way to scumhunt, but I see he just states a (almost obvious) town read on Hiraki, and says Mollie is leaning town, but withouth caring to explain too much.

I asked questions; questions do 2 things;
1. Breed Discussion
2. Allow me to investigate things

This is just a recap of things that have happened.

BTW @Slandaar - Is lurking scummy? because I understand that's your main case on PM, am I wrong?

Yes. Combination of Lurk + Timing of it.

Do you think it is?

Please Shinori, c'mon. You say I'm off my meta. Where is your infamous beligerance that almost got you modkilled in our last game? Or...did you maybe decide to play a little bit more seriously? You have 14 other playerslots to look at. Do me a favor and acknowledge a few of them, before you jump down my throat for scumhunting "differently" or however you are interpreting my play.

This seems like scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eleison

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Mollie; you have not played on this site before?

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Can you link me to this other game you got killed in please.

I want to see something.

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The game is offsite somewhere, I want to see where more than anything; so no.

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Look you cannot scum hunt by telling people what you are looking for;
I think X is scummy, Yscum therefore avoids X. Easy game.

I am saying I want link to that game to check that sites setup meta as 1. Its the most recent meta and 2. It was picked by me therefore cannot be influenced by Mollie giving me random site Y that avoids X. If she has played on many as she says this completely avoids that.

It is in no way talking about ongoing games.

Why do I need it?

I still think smash's list is shit. he might have one but not all 3 and certainly not me.

Where does an association with scumteam=3 come from?

Ongoing game is useless for my search hence;

I want to see where more than anything

I do not care about the game but it is the anchor to ensure no shenaniganry. Checking her history with setup meta there can basically confirm her scum if she is in a game with 4+

Link now.

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Can we lynch Mcstab?

No.

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5 poast combo!!!!1!

hiraki, slandaar, how do you guys feel about a shinori lynch?

No to this also.

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Why do you think there are 3 scum?

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Heres a list for you;

Mollie/Jun/Eleison.

Am I close?

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Mcstabscum is not Townleader-Mcstab

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Not read the walls will do that later

then why isn't your vote on him huh slandaar huh HUH?

I think Mcstab is town because in his first few posts he was acting as the townleader, he had a plan and it was fairly good at the time even though not something I use.

So, why would I vote him?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mollie

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That way anyone who is paying attention is aware "Hey, this person is this many votes away from death". That way lazy scum can't just quick switch and pretend like they didn't know Pirate Mollie was going to be lynched from their vote.

Only applies when she is town.

But...

She isn't town.

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She is too sure there are 3 scum when she has the experience to not assume as such; She knows how many scum there are ie 3 at least in the main pack.

I was assuming 4 initially and so thought she townslipped but that was wrong; to assume 3 you still need to have a basis and her basis did not stand up to investigation (she has not exclusively played games with 3 scum)

In otherwords she Scum-slipped.

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Don't even try to meta me.

What made you feel the need to say this?

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Numberguy could easily be scum.

Hrm

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OK I tell you what, I will show you how I read posts like this.

I just read all 17 pages in about the course of a an hour or two, so don't expect me to have that much of a solid understanding of everything that happened.

Fair intro; expect content to come...

Just from what I saw, it looks like we have some minor to serious behavioral issues.

Mollie gives up with a defeatist attitude in Post 348. I mean, seriously? You have 4 votes on you (that's less than halfway to the lynch mark), and you already concede defeat? Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never played in a game as large as this one), but wagons have a tendency to change very quickly, especially when they're still somewhat small. If you're looking for a nicer way to put it, I suggest reading some Hiraki.

Hiraki. Makes me want to swallow staples.

I don't think I need to elaborate on Mr. Shinori either.

Now we do have a lot of more lurky people, and I hope not to fall into that state, but mostly you'll see me doing digest posts at around this time every 24 hours. Honestly, we seriously need some active participants to fill in the slots of these guys. Nobody except mcstab is targeting the lurkers - hell, all these guys could be scum.

That's not to say I'm going to put my vote on any of them in an attempt to "pressure" them into posting more.

Pointless, all of it, but there are lots of words, lots of words + pointless = scummy.

Mollie is definitely leaning scum at this point - either that or she's hopelessly trying to defend some stupid stuff that she said. I'm saying some, because I only picked up the "going after newbs bit as a scumtell bit". I'm assuming that there's more, as 6 people are voting molly (it was 7 before I took my vote off).

Content - Mollie is leaning scum OR shes trying to defend... WAFFLE WAFFLE WAFFLE.

Don't even try to meta me. I most likely have sanity issues as well, but they don't get into the way of my logic that much. They do get in the way of my playstyle.

Overly Defensive.

And that is how that post came across to me.

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Theo what is your read on NJAC?

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If we are lynching a lurker it is PM

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I won't use that as an excuse for scumslips, so don't worry about that.

hey you guiz!!!!!! you Guyz! I finds a scum!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Numberscum

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I find it very hard to believe numbers does not know what a scumslip is with 4months on site / 2 completed games; I think that should easily be enough. There is no way this did not come up in a previous game if he truly didn't know as Scumslip accusations are so common and the way he said it wasn't even in response to one in the first place.

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Mollie you have been very quiet re NumbersGuy

Why?

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Thats not a reason.

Not a town reason anyway.

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You

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Do I actually have to read through these newbie games...

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Mollie you have been very quiet re NumbersGuy

Why?

cos I don't see where he made a scum slip. I see someone who does not know exactly what a scum slip is which is why I corrected him.

Thats not a reason.

Not a town reason anyway.

lol, just because I disagree with you does not make me scum it means I disagree with you.

buldemar stands out to me more than numbers person.

OK for those who don't see why this is so damning;

Mollie is very vocal; to not say a thing on the subject of Numbers (read: it does not matter the opinion) sitting quietly ignoring it is a major scumtell as it is the most major event in the game not involving her.

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VOTE: Mollie

Numbers lynch is fine they are probably just buddies. Mollie is scum though.

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Its amazing I say you have been quiet over Numbers and then magically you are vocal again.

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You can post when you die till MOD confirms flip/starts night.

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Sorry bit off topic ggwp scum etc;

Myko the reason I thought the 2 simple scum was a slip wasn't due to the numbers but due to the simple bit; it implied insider info; assuming 2 scum seemed fine.