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Personally, I think we should just quicklynch some bastards, ScumChat style, and give zero fucks about anything.-
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He absolutely did fail. Someone needs to hammer.
Should have had a Page 3 scumlynch, but NOOOOOO.-
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In the event that umoms does not get quicklynched (or that he gets quicklynched as town), I fully support killing nhammen. The whole "let me find a different-bad-bullshit reason to pile onto the wagon" thing is easily the scummiest vote on here.
Buuuut umom's reaction to the pressure doesn't fit. A bit of WTFery is expected, but he's just tra-la-la-ing along like it's no big deal.-
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On the contrary, I wanted a lynch on Page 3 of a large game. If you think I'm taking this shit far too seriously, you need to have your vision checked.-
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In post 90, JDodge wrote:In post 83, Glork wrote:In the event that umoms does not get quicklynched (or that he gets quicklynched as town), I fully support killing nhammen. The whole "let me find a different-bad-bullshit reason to pile onto the wagon" thing is easily the scummiest vote on here.
Buuuut umom's reaction to the pressure doesn't fit. A bit of WTFery is expected, but he's just tra-la-la-ing along like it's no big deal.
He reads like he doesn't give a shit and that (assuming it is a hohum alt) is what I'd expect of a reaction from him. What makes you expect a different one? What reaction were you expecting?
Oh, see, here my first impression was UberNinja, based on his GD posting history. That would definitely imply faked-not-giving-a-shit, becuase UberNinja cares too much, even if he'd never admit it.-
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OH MAN. Tierce wagon or nhammen wagon. BOTH SO GOOD.
But nhammen is bigger.
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Why would you want to channel anyone's scum-meta?
To that end, why would you want to channel anything but your own town-meta?-
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I'm being 100% serious. It should have worked in both Almost Normal and Closed Normal in Team Mafia, had the town done it right. I think people are terrified of massclaims, but it's such a struggle for scums to fake something D1 and maintain it throughout the game. They basically can't claim any information role other than regular-cop, which seems to have fallen out of favor in today's meta. They can claim Doctor, but if there's any SK, multiball, a real doctor, etc., they're walking corpses. There are very few fakeclaims scums can come up with D1. I want it to happen.-
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I haven't really been able to get into this game. Also, an unrelated, outside conversation reminded me of CrashTextDummie's massclaim suggestion for Almost Normal, and my desire to do the same in Closed Normal. I guess I didn't suggest it earlier because it didn't occur to me earlier?-
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In post 213, Rhinox wrote:I've been in a few games where people have suggested immediate massclaims with convincing reasons (CTD and empking), and it never happens. In the past I've been knee-jerk against it because tradition, but lately I've been wanting it to happen just to see if it really works out like those suggesting it say it will. I'm just not sure this is the game to try and thats all I've got to say about it.
That it never happens doesn't mean it's not a good idea. It absolutely would have cracked open half the games in Team Mafia.
It's a good play. Tierce, Sim, Stag, and AGar are on board. They have nothing to fear.
Let's fuck up some scums, people.-
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In post 234, Rhinox wrote:Neighbor with an additional ability (my neighbor doesnt know about my extra ability by the way). I really don't think I should claim it though.
Popcorn umoms
That's not how a mass claim works. It's not a mass partial-claim, or a mass-claim-if-I'm-vanilla-or-not. It's a mass claim.
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In post 238, Primate wrote:Also, thinking about this, I'll bow to your greater experience here, but is scum claiming a uncontested power role to get into the endgame something that happens a lot?
Seems like is the main advantage you're touting and I don't think it's much of a things against the benefit to town of getting a nice PR a bit further, which can potentially clear/kill another couple of people and hand us the game.
I'd rather save the mass claim analysis for when tr mass claim is done. Thanks in advance.-
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Can we please lynch Rhinox unless he full-claims immediately? This is ridiculous.-
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In post 263, Rhinox wrote:Wow whatever its not like i can even draw a nk at this point anyways. I'm factional bulletproof. I can't be nk'd by mafia. I can be lynched or vigged or killed by any faction other than mafia if they exist but idk if that means there are for sure multi factions or not.
Fos glork (+others? On phone too lazy to go look) for starting massclaim and calling for a lynch before completing the massclaim.
Actually who am i voting? Redff? Eh doesnt matterunvote vote glork
You didn't claim during a massclaim. You were pressured, and then you finished your claim. Chill out, bro.
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Can we just lynch Umoms like we wanted to ten pages ago? This is ridiculous.-
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In post 318, Bella wrote:In post 316, scooby wrote:In post 314, Glork wrote:Can we just lynch Umoms like we wanted to ten pages ago? This is ridiculous.
wtf umoms is town as fuck
vote glork
diescumdie
umoms is also creating the impression that they are avoiding mass claim, though. That is a legit reason to vote for them.
Your vote seems silly, imo.
This.
Also, I guess I should put my money where my mouth is.
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How about we just move on with the massclaim and agree to lynch Umoms today once we're done? Rhinox can pick someone else, and we can do this shit. The lack of activity is astounding. I have notes (already cleared like five people on massclaim-behavioral tells alone), and would really like to share them with the class when this massclaim is finally done with.-
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Well this is going to lead to a bunch of scumbaggoes waiting until later to solidify fake-claims. I guess that works, though... weighted supsicions aren't an inherently bad thing.
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In post 373, Quagmire wrote:If OGML would rather replace me than stir up this drama, he's well within his jurisdiction. But I'm not going to read my PM.
In confirming, you are required to state that you have read and understand your win condition.
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EWBOP: The premise of the vote is that Quag was required to read his role PM to have confirmed. He's a lying sack of shit.-
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Actually, retarded as he might be, that doesn't make him scum. It *is* his meta. But seriously. Fuck that shit.
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I'm fairly certain I'm not scum.
I am lamenting the decision to request a massclaim, though. It should probably be kept to mini games, where universal cooperation and timely participation are more likely.-
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Also, D1 gambits don't historically come for Glorkscum. His play is reserved, almosttoostandard. I don't mid ring bashed for the poor decision making, but calling me scum for it seems more than a little short-sighted.-
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Singer, it *is* a joke. We used to say stuff like that in scumchat mafia all the time way back in the day.
3p LyLo: "Guys I'm p sure I'm not scum, you two should vote for each other"... I even did that in Skypemafia just a few months back.
Also, no, short-sighted does not mean scum. If I meant scum, I'd have said scum. Quag is a strong protown read, Rhinox is at least not mafia-scum (although claiming mafia-bulletproof as mafia would be pretty techy), and Scooby... idk, he just seems kind of aloof. What I meant was, people who think that I'd make this kind of gambit on D1 as scum aren't really digging into past glorkmeta, at all. If you look back at our TM quicktopic, I legit thought that CTD's massclaim idea was fucking brilliant, and wanted to do it in my game, too. I still think it's fucking brilliant, even though CTD got lynched in part over it, and I knew that I'd pick up some flak for it. I still think we should finish the masslcaim, and pretty much everyone who continues to post without claiming (except Quag) is getting minus points for not doing so.
In this situation, zero fucks given = protown. People who are hiding behind other things and stalling/avoiding the massclaim must have *some* reason for it, and I guarantee you it's not because they're power... because like three people have claimed power already. (Not that everyone who has claimed power is inherently protown, but if they're scum they're committing to a potential world of hurt.)-
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Iiiiinteresting. I could go for a nhammen lynch based on that alone.-
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In post 429, singersigner wrote:In post 428, Glork wrote:Iiiiinteresting. I could go for a nhammen lynch based on that alone.
What's the point of saying this if you're not going to? But you should vote for me instead anyway.
I wanted to voice my support for a nhammen lynch but didn't want to actually jump the wagon yet because we need to finish the massclaim (or get as close as we possibly can) first.-
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This is p much a prod-dodge post. I'm on V/LA for a few more days.-
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In post 468, redFF wrote:claim now mcstab we're just finishing up a mass claim
A thousand times this.-
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On that note, why are you still voting Bella, even if she isn't PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME? She is an Innocent Child afterall, so even as pressure/point, your vote is literally beyond useless.In post 476, JDodge wrote:Also need to note that I don't like the way nhammen has responded to pressure regardless of how awful the initial logic on his current wagon is. Would be willing to lynch when I'm ready to settle down on a scum target instead of a PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOU ASSHOLES target.-
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Living (19/19) [/b] (bold is confirmed)
1.McStabrep. umoms D1 -- VANILLA TOWNIE
2.Glork-- VANILLA TOWNIE, NEIGHBOR WITH RHINOX
*3.Quagmire
4.Tierce-- VANILLA TOWNIE
*5.singersignerrep. Untrod Tripod D1
6.Bella -Innocent Child
7.Rhinox-- BULLETPROOF TO MAFIA, NEIGHBOR WITH GLORK
8.nhammen-- VANILLA TOWNIE
9.scooby-- VANILLA TOWNIE
10.Psycherep. iamausername D1 -- SANE COP (iamausername claimed COP)
11.AGar-- 1-SHOT VIGILANTE
12.Staeg-- ROLEBLOCKER
13.bv310rep. Thestatusquo D1 -- ONE-SHOT GUNSMITH
14.redFF-- VANILLA TOWNIE
15.Quilford-- VANILLA TOWNIE
*16.Simenon
17.Primate-- BODYGUARD
18.Flameaxe-- VANILLA TOWNIE
19.JDodge-- VANILLA TOWNIE
Please tell me if this is correct.
Also, REALLY surprising that Sim hasn't claimed. Unless I missed him doing so, I kind of really want to lynch him after Nhammen.
Quag and Singer should claim, too.
:goodfeelings: about Quag went away because I forgot that his "protown behavioral tells" are invalidated by the fact that he had not read his role PM.
Singer... I know she thought massclaim was a terrible idea, but now that at least 16/19 have done so, being one of the holdouts is probably going to look really bad down the line.
Of the actual claimed roles, we have...
2 informative rower roles (one one-shot)
2 "protective" rower roles (but not really)
1 roleblocker
1 one-shot vig
9 vanilla townie (1 neighobr included)
1 Innocent Child
This already seems like the absolute maximum power we can expect, unless the game is full multiball. (Right now I'm thinking Mafia+SK.)
Nhammen is still the lynch today. I wouldn't mind seeing Simenon shot tonight.-
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In fact, if I were a wagering man, I'd bet just about anything that Sim is some form of scum. I'd even be willing to lynch himoverNham today.-
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Dodging a prod. Still moving and shit.
Singer: I explained why I was withholding my vote earlier. Now that the massclaim is as complete as it's going to get, it's time to get to lynching.-
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In post 532, Rhinox wrote:Glork:
In post 507, Glork wrote:Of the actual claimed roles, we have...
2 informative rower roles (one one-shot)
2 "protective" rower roles (but not really)
1 roleblocker
1 one-shot vig
9 vanilla townie (1 neighobr included)
1 Innocent Child
This already seems like the absolute maximum power we can expect, unless the game is full multiball. (Right now I'm thinking Mafia+SK.)
Given that this is how you feel about the claims (and your reaction to my partial claim), how do you feel about singer softclaiming a PR that "we probably don't want her to claim".
Also this:
Lynch it with fire!In post 529, singersigner wrote:Especially considering the fact that I can (theoretically) just be confirmed by a cop, so...
Actually, I'm willing to wait and see, as long as the full claim (with results) happens at least two days before probably LyLo. Maiden is still fresh in my mind, and pushing DDD didn't turn out well for anyone involved.
The "cop cleared" thing is a bit alarming. Every time someone says that, my knee-jerk reaction is "Godfather." And if we assume we have a "sane cop," it's pretty safe to assume the existence of a Godfather.
I actually really wish our Gunsmith weren't one-shot. There are like four roles I would love to check right now (in no particular order -- Singer, Rhinox, Sim, Stag).-
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Quil is not a lynch candidate at this time.
Tierce, considering how close we are to deadline (less than 72 hours by my count?), is it safe to assume that you consider Nhammen to be definitively protown? You literally haven't talked about him other than to say you are "interested" to see how Red reacts to him early on, and then to say that discussing the "I claim" tell "doesn't make him scum." Considering he is one of the main wagons of the day, it sounds an aaaaaawful lot like you really want to avoid the subject altogether. So, gun-to-head: Would you lynch him today or not? Why or why not?-
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In post 601, AGar wrote:Glork, what good reason do you have to avert the singer wagon and what viable alternative do you propose in the immediate short term, since we have a bit over 2 days to do something.
Are you incapable of reading any of my posts over the last few pages?
Are you incapable of looking at the vote count?
Seriously, AGar. What the hell is this god awful bullshit?-
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In post 503, Glork wrote:Don't you mean Nhammen and Nhammen?
In post 507, Glork wrote:Nhammen is still the lynch today. I wouldn't mind seeing Simenon shot tonight.
In post 530, Glork wrote:Dodging a prod. Still moving and shit.
Singer: I explained why I was withholding my[nhammen]vote earlier. Now that the massclaim is as complete as it's going to get, it's time to get to lynching[nhammen].
In post 576, Glork wrote:Tierce, considering how close we are to deadline (less than 72 hours by my count?), is it safe to assume that you consider Nhammen to be definitively protown? You literally haven't talked about him other than to say you are "interested" to see how Red reacts to him early on, and then to say that discussing the "I claim" tell "doesn't make him scum." Considering he is one of the main wagons of the day, it sounds an aaaaaawful lot like you really want to avoid the subject altogether. So, gun-to-head: Would you lynch him today or not? Why or why not?
Here, AGar. Since you're apparently unwilling to put any effort into reading things, I've done all the legwork for you. Now please stop being stupid and start lynching Nhammen. 'Kay?-
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I told you Quil was town... :/
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Would also gladly lynch Tierce right now.-
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Pretty simple. I refuse to believe that you have a guilty on singer. Also, Sim's play looks like scum play, and Tierce's is hardly much better.-
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In post 647, Staeg wrote:Nope, not taking you seriously
Not taking him seriously, yet you're following him onto singersigner? Interesting.
When I have some time I'll go back through some of Psyche'd past games and see if he has a history of lying as town. Then I'll decide.-
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In post 655, Hoopla wrote:So, nhammen was scum - nice work iamausername. My gut says Psyche is gambiting in an attempt to make singer claim and actually play the game instead of posting excuses.
I'll happily vote singer when he confirms 100% he is being truthful.
This, exactly this, which is why in like half an hour I plan on running through Psyche's game history to see if he has a track record of gambling as town.-
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Also, Tierce, there very much is a way singer could honestly believe that it was IMPOSSIBLE for Psyche to have invrstigated her last night. I can think of three tiles off the top of my head that make it an impossibility.
Try harder next time.-
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Holy shit someobdy unvoter her now. If she's scum, she can self-hammer and our power role situation is fucked. We need answers from AGar on whether he shot Quil, and a full claim from Singer isn't a bad thing. Also, there are like 5 people who haven't even checked in today, much less posted any content. Stop being mindless fucks for like two seconds. Less-than-24-hour-days are one of the WORST things ever, and most of you have been around plenty long enough to know this by now.-
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