NY 160: Terrible Melodrama Mafia (Game Over)

[Nero Cain]

Nero is obvscum since he's the first to post.

vote: Nero

[Nero Cain]

we have two weeks. Tons of time to get through everyones bullshit.

you do know that this is logic that usually comes from scum right?

Page 2 real vote?
I'm tempted to actually confirm my vote...

So you think its impossible to find scum during RVS?

[Nero Cain]

And statistically wise, yes

it's very much possible

that you'll find scum during RVS.

Is it plausible?

No.

Not really

we have two weeks. Tons of time to get through everyones bullshit.

you do know that this is logic that usually comes from scum right?

Then why haven't you voted me? Perhaps it does in your scenario, maybe you missed my point, the first half hour of the game REALLY doesn't matter.

I agree. Though 30 mins=//=2 weeks. Though town should take however mych time is needed to scumhunt and shouldn't ever waste it 'cause "there's still time"

My vote isn't on you 'cause your a 12' join date but if you really want it there I'd be more than happy to oblige.

vote:Senjai

Page 2 real vote?
I'm tempted to actually confirm my vote...

So you think its impossible to find scum during RVS?

Unless you have a particular players meta down pat, yes it is. In MY opinion, to reliably find scum without knowing their meta

intimately

is unlikely.

No. no. no. GOD NO!!! Meta is nice and all but its not the say all be all of scumhunting.

Only scum can actually have legit "scum" reads this early because well, they know who town are and know who exactly they should mislynch.

lol no. Playes can have scum reads as early as they can if there's a post that's off or whatever.

[Nero Cain]

This is foolish. Let me explain. You can ONLY RELIABLY GENERATE SCUM READS IN RVS BY KNOWN META there is a keyword in there, figure it out. Scum can say their scum in RVS and it won't matter. If you play with Person X for three years, you get a very good idea on how he acts in RVS when scum versus when town. Your saying, this guy is scum because he didn't capitalize after the third period in his paragraph. You find scum by testing their consistency, and catching them lying or going against arguments previously made. None of this can happen in RVS.

No. It doesn't take "meta knowledge" for someone to have a scum read. As an example its a somewhat common scumtell for a player to keep or try to keep in "RVS" after discussion has started. That doesn't take "meta". I've been in many many many games where myself and other random townies think player X is scum for whatever reason. According to your logic that's impossible to do since it requires "meta". Just stop. Your argument is wrong.

But now we're still in RVS, See NC' and DC's posts

For sanitys sake, this guy needs death soon.

Then, I came to the conclusion that the join date reference was the reason Nero Cain had not voted for Senjai, yet. As if to say that inexperience was an excuse for what Senjai was doing.

This. Though excuse isn't the word I'd use. More like "s his scumminess 'cause he's new or 'cause he has a scum pm?"

[Nero Cain]

stop multiposting like that to make yourself look active.

[Nero Cain]

You

should

care (atleast a lil') since if you know that you are town then you should try to not appear scummy and A.) NOT get yourself mislynced and B.) make other townies think you are scummy thereby letting scum slip by sice the attention is on you.

Even if you are playing "scummy" to bolster your scum meta you should be policy lynched.

[Nero Cain]

I

JUST

got back Toon. Give me a lil' time to reply to the other posts that I had wanted to reply to.

[Nero Cain]

This is foolish. Let me explain. You can ONLY RELIABLY GENERATE SCUM READS IN RVS BY KNOWN META there is a keyword in there, figure it out. Scum can say their scum in RVS and it won't matter. If you play with Person X for three years, you get a very good idea on how he acts in RVS when scum versus when town. Your saying, this guy is scum because he didn't capitalize after the third period in his paragraph. You find scum by testing their consistency, and catching them lying or going against arguments previously made. None of this can happen in RVS.

No. It doesn't take "meta knowledge" for someone to have a scum read. As an example its a somewhat common scumtell for a player to keep or try to keep in "RVS" after discussion has started. That doesn't take "meta". I've been in many many many games where myself and other random townies think player X is scum for whatever reason. According to your logic that's impossible to do since it requires "meta". Just stop. Your argument is wrong.

I'm not looking for agreement. I'm

sexy

right and I know it. If someone can say their scum, barring obvious scumslips like roleclaiming and mentioning a qt, and that can or could not be a scum tell it's up in the eye of the perceiver. Perception != truth. Getting your perceptions correct reliably requires knowledge of the player and his personality. End of discussion. If you disagree, thats fine

That is so cute. A 2012 player thinks he knows more about the happenings of this site then someone that’s been here for that last two years. So are you an alt and pretending to be new? I’ll let you “win”. I don’t really care but you aren’t right. And you took the whole conversation and turned it on its head. Piggy was all “oh only scum can call people scum this early!!!” Which is an obvious load of manure. Your “well she’s wrong but she’s also right…’cause they gotta know meta to be right!” is pretty dumb and doesn’t have anything to do with what was being discussed at all.

I am how I am. I always talk and act this way. This is why meta plays a part.

If you always act scummy regardless of alignment we can’ read “meta” which is the whole point….

Sounds like your angry all of a sudden because your my #1 scum read.

I’m really not. Maybe a lil’ annoyed since I hate players that purposely play scummy but I’m not “mad”. But lest disscuss this.

Nero Cain:

Slight

scum read.

Unipod Tripod: scum read

Of course you have my on top of UT but I’m listed as slight. Explain please.

Now, when I gave these reads I was lying.

Tow should never lie. GTFO.

I changed my vote to Nero Cain (dont get me wrong NC, I still think your scumtastic) and expected him to hop on. Had he have done this I would make it my lifes desire to have him lynched.

You expected TF to jump on me and this would somehow confirm me as scum or what the hell is this?

[Nero Cain]

@Piggy

What is your read on DemonCore?

@Everyone on the JS wagon.

Why is JS scummy for calling somebody "nervos town" but 4xn skates by for doing something similar?

[Nero Cain]

You're wrong, that's actually a scumtell.

But I'd have to be scum for it to be a scumtell. And I'm not so...

[Nero Cain]

@Piggy What is your read on DemonCore?

/ugh, you've ignored me all game and now you want to dig up dirt?

how sleazy

lolololololololololollololloolololololol

[Nero Cain]

I beg for attention and NC laughs in my face.

I feel so....... rejected.

What would you like to discuss?

You're just raging right now. I think the pressure is getting to you. Now your saying you are agressing me because of my join date, I'm totally LOVING YOUR AD HOMINEM ATTACKS. Makes you so reputable. Using join date as an excuse in argument = scummy, keep your red herring fallacies away from me.

Here’s what I want to know. If you have the power the power to read minds why are you not out doing anything useful with your said powers?
If anyone is mad or upset its you. Never used your join date to attack you but ok….

Gambits are for idiots. There’s your ad hom.

senjai is town. bad, but town.

This.

[quote="In post 154, Plan B

@Everyone on the JS wagon.

Why is JS scummy for calling somebody "nervos town" but 4xn skates by for doing something similar?

1. Welp, guess the whole case on JacobSavage is made of nothing but straw. Glad you pointed that out for us and destroyed it. /sarcasm

2. What do you see similar from 4nxi3ty?

3. Even if I agreed that 4nxi3ty's play is similar (which I don't), why does that make JacobSavage's play any less scummy?

This reads like a major attempt at distraction from JacobSavage. Do you have a strong Town read on JacobSavage? If you've already expressed it, I don't remember it. So, please either point me to it, or explain it.

I'd support a wagon on Nero Cain for the above, Demon Core's original reasoning on him, and because Nero Cain's push against Senjai contains too much

For sanitys sake, this guy needs death soon.

I don't get any sense that Nero Cain is trying to lynch scum from his perspective, just trying to lynch someone who's easily unlikeable.

I also support the PiggyGal15 wagon for the reasons already given by others.[/quote]
…………………………………………………….

1. This was a serious question and I don’t get why you needed to use sarcasm.

2. Is a huge misrep. I never said they were playing similarly, just that one of the points that has been made against JS is something that 4NX has done. This is selective scumhunting.


No. I don’t have strong town read on JS.

Nero, I also want to know your answer to Plan B's question to you. Are you referring to:

senjai looks more like naive town.

If so, I would bet money on the fact that 4nxi3ty can back this statement up in a way that makes sense.

Yes. I actually agree with 4nx here. My point was that if people are going to use JS’s calling Senji town as a scum tell but not look at 4nx then it looks like selective scumhunting. PlanB had no reason to get snarky.

Not a formal V/LA, but that for me (as NC will readily remind you) is a long time away from mafia. just to let yall know.

Your taking pot shots at me and you call me angry? Lololololol

[Nero Cain]

Look, I get it that you think you are some hotshot that thinks he knows everything about this game and if we sheep you then town’ll win this without any mislynches. But you don’t and I highly doubt that. There is no

argument

. Maybe you want to argue for some stupid reason. You fill your posts with so much bullshit and you apparently can’t read well enough to even listen to what I’m saying. Just shut up and go back to watching Japanese porn cartoons.

JS defended you for absolutely no reason, and now your defending for absolutely no reason claiming 'selective scumhunting' as your reason. TF was selective scumhunting me for the majority of the early game, does that mean he's scum?

So, if player X thinks player Y is town why should he not say so? What was TF accusing you of that another player did?

@Piggy

What is your read on DemonCore?

Town. Why ask me specifically about him?

Only scum can actually have legit "scum" reads this early because well, they know who town are and know who exactly they should mislynch.

Was curious why TF’s early scum read on Senj was scummy but DC’s early scum read on me was not?

Nero asked you specifically about Demon because AT THAT TIME, demon was the only one voting him lol.

lol no. Please stop being an idiot.

This forum needs to be fixed since I feel into a wormhole that transported me to a newbie game.

Lynching JS lets us know about Nero.

No it doesn’t. If JS flips scum then its only logical that I’m suspected but if JS flips town it doesn’t exactly clear me. Yes I’m town since my pm says so but my point is that is some dangerous thinking.

Mkay, I'm a watcher.

X

Wrong answer.

Hammer this fool, jacob.

If people start lynch claimed PRs, with no counterclaims, I'm honestly going to stop playing mafia.

Which would allow scum to just claim prs and be safe the whole game? That's dumb.

[Nero Cain]

Yes. I actually agree with 4nx here. My point was that if people are going to use JS’s calling Senji town as a scum tell but not look at 4nx then it looks like selective scumhunting. PlanB had no reason to get snarky.

This is a little dated, but I read your question as a giant strawman of the case on JacobSavage. I don't really get why you'd generalize the question to everyone on the JacobSavage wagon if you weren't trying to kill the wagon.

So.....if a player says "this guy is scummy for X but this guy isn't" that doesn't make you question your read on the player that said it and by extension the player thats getting wagoned? I couldn't remembe exactly who said it so I asked the whole wagon.

I really want to hear your stances on PiggyGal15 and JacobSavage before a lynch happens.

scum and null.

[Nero Cain]

@Piggy

What is your read on DemonCore?

Town. Why ask me specifically about him?

Only scum can actually have legit "scum" reads this early because well, they know who town are and know who exactly they should mislynch.

Was curious why TF’s early scum read on Senj was scummy but DC’s early scum read on me was not?

Because your scum. ^.^

no. Nice try though.

[Nero Cain]

Because you said defending another player who can defend himself is scummy.

See here's the thing. You're playing like an obvious noob but you’re putting all sorts of words into my mouth and your general inability to read the thread is making me doubt that you are new and not just an alt.

But I'd love to see where I said this 'cause I don't remember that.

Nero Cain was away for three days.

Your point? It sounds like you're accusing me of prod dodging here. If you think I read the post, went away for three days and then commented it on it then you must be from Egypt ‘cause you are obviously in denial.

[quote="In post 303, adorkable]

Nero doesn't have a wagon - but there's lots of (actually explained) suspicion of him floating around.

this doesn't help NC's case

actually I think it makes him more likely to be scum. huh.

This makes no sense at all. You think I'm more likely to be scum 'cause

OTHERS

find me scummy. Way to blend in.

+Am I the only one that read his post as a big fence sit on piggy?

I don't know if I can earnestly defend NC from a lynch today.

So you think Piggy is scum but you don’t really care if I’m lynched over her?

I’m really thinkin’ that Plan B is scum with Piggy. He’s really fence sitting on her. Joins the Jacob wagon then calls me scummy for not finding Jacob scummy then when the Jacob wagon starts to loose steam he jumps off for finding Jacob not scummy. (HELLO CONJETIVE DISSONANCE!!!) And he didn’t answer my last question which really annoys me.

Vote:piggy

If it’s a scum slot then there’s no reason to trust here results so if she flips scum then I bet she has some buddies in the group saying “let her live.”

[Nero Cain]

RE Plan B's 303: You know what this post lacks? A response to my accusation of that you are fence sitting on Piggy. Don’t worry about saying that you “forgot” to do so and claim that you weren’t ‘cause I just won’t believe you and anyone else that’s town shouldn’t either.

Spoiler:

I never called you scummy for not finding JacobSavage scummy. I called you scummy for attempting to derail his wagon when you didn't have a strong Town read on him, or any Town read for that matter. You claimed that was not your intent. I don't believe you.

Ok. So you think we should just lynch willy nilly on a null reads? That’s not how the game works; we lynch scum reads not null reads. To me it sounds more like you were

upset

that I was throwing a cog in what was looking like an EZ lynch on JS.

I also find it odd that now that you have a town read him that you aren’t questioning your stance on me. I mean, you think Jacob is town. I did not want to lynch town….but you still find me scummy for not wanting to lynch town? Pretty scummy stance you got there partnah.

Spoiler:

So.....if a player says "this guy is scummy for X but this guy isn't" that doesn't make you question your read on the player that said it and by extension the player thats getting wagoned? I couldn't remembe exactly who said it so I asked the whole wagon.

This question?

I read that as a rhetorical question posed as part of your answer to me on why you asked a question to the whole JacobSavage wagon.

So, sure, if someone said that, I'd question their alignment. I don't recall anyone doing that.

O really now.

So you attacked JS for this same point but not 4nx…you then call it scummy.

i would say mre piggy is probably nervous town than scrum but so far there really has not been enough to say either way with any sort of uncertainty

Setting aside the remarkable fencesitting nature of this post, where do you get "nervous"?

Spoiler:

NC, mind explaining to me, why if you find two people scummy, you go for the claimed PR, and not the one you just made a case on? o.O

So…what your saying is that I should put my vote on a wagon that likely won’t go through today? Would you be willing to lynch Plan B?

Didn't like Piggy's and Senjai's combo bandwagoning, especially after DC's post

Likewise

So something is suspicious but you dare not question your read on me?

What is your Senji read?

Spoiler:

Nero doesn't have a wagon - but there's lots of (actually explained) suspicion of him floating around.

this doesn't help NC's case

actually I think it makes him more likely to be scum. huh.

This makes no sense at all. You think I'm more likely to be scum 'cause

OTHERS

find me scummy. Way to blend in..

No, that's not true. Whole bean coffee will go stale within about two weeks. It really depends on the specific coffee and how it was roasted though. Some might do well for up to a month? And some roasters will give advice as specific as a coffee being at its peak "from days 9 to 12". Generally if you're brewing coffee (as opposed to making espresso) you'll have a wider window. But however long it is, it's a few weeks max. Fortunately, you can freeze whole bean coffee, and it should last for months (in a deep, chest style freezer, it might be a year or more). I split up the 12 or 16 oz bags I get in half (6 or 8oz), double bag them in freezer bags, and pull one or two out a week, as I use them up. You can do the same thing with mason jars, or something similar. Just make sure to let the beans come up to room temp before opening them up (otherwise they'll get condensation all over them, which is no good). And I haven't had good luck re-freezing beans, once they're out of the freezer, just try to use them up.[/quote]

Was this a “blend” joke ‘cause I really don’t see this as a legitimate response to what you were being accused of.

a) I have no reason to vote for piggy at the moment. Is she scummy? Yeah. Can I see her actions come from town power? Yeah. If she's scum does it hurt to let her live one night and get results that, if she does flip town, can possibly help us? Nope. Not to mention if she's town scum have to try killing her because otherwise she can get results and if we're eventually lynching her anyway, well...

Ok so if we let her live today when do we lynch her?

Spoiler:

I’m really thinkin’ that Plan B is scum with Piggy. He’s really fence sitting on her. Joins the Jacob wagon then calls me scummy for not finding Jacob scummy then when the Jacob wagon starts to loose steam he jumps off for finding Jacob not scummy. (HELLO CONJETIVE DISSONANCE!!!) And he didn’t answer my last question which really annoys me.

Vote:piggy

If it’s a scum slot then there’s no reason to trust here results so if she flips scum then I bet she has some buddies in the group saying “let her live.”

This is stupid reasoning. She's claimed a PR; why do you want to lynch her

today

? If she continues to be scummy in future days, we can lynch her and at least we'll have some results if he does actually flip town. If she does flip scum, we'll have relationship tells to use.

But its a scum slot. Her "WE AREN'T LYNCHING CLAIMED PRS WITHOUT A CC!!!" Sounds a ton like scum with a safeclaim. And unless you want to help me lynch Plan B or Senj then I don't really know what to say.

[Nero Cain]

Mod: Still v/la due to no comp at home.

Plan B, PiggyGal15, adorkable are scum. Was thinkin' DC but scum Piggy and Plan B's town read on the slot make him likely not a buddy.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah my post is wierd but I didn't do anything. I think both you and Plan B are gonna flip scum. Your play is terrible. I don't know if plan B's fence sitting on you is more likely buddy play or scum that knows you aren't on his team. Nor do I like Adorks "well she's claimed, lets let someone else claim while leaving her to be lynched later." Though I will admit that Plan B and Adorks play towords you

screams

scum to me but there's little or no intrest in lynching either slot, and I know that I'm town and I don't have a scum read on N. So unless there's a shitload of Plan B/Adork/Senji intrest in the next few days then getting rid of bad pork is better then a no lynch.

[Nero Cain]

You think scum would have a powerrole safeclaim? o.O

Why wouldn't they have powerole safeclaims?

[Nero Cain]

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

[Nero Cain]

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

don't like that claim

unvote, vote: NC

die, scum

What don't you like about it?

You think scum would have a powerrole safeclaim? o.O

Why wouldn't they have powerole safeclaims?

Have you EVER seen scum get powerrole safeclaims in a non-theme game NC? If so, when was that?

I don't know about non theme 'cause I play mostly theme games so I wouldn't really know but I don't think there'd be a diffrence. Still I agree that she'd be lying about her alignment more than her role.

[Nero Cain]

Spoiler:

Nero doesn't have a wagon - but there's lots of (actually explained) suspicion of him floating around.

this doesn't help NC's case

actually I think it makes him more likely to be scum. huh.

This makes no sense at all. You think I'm more likely to be scum 'cause

OTHERS

find me scummy. Way to blend in..

No, that's not true. Whole bean coffee will go stale within about two weeks. It really depends on the specific coffee and how it was roasted though. Some might do well for up to a month? And some roasters will give advice as specific as a coffee being at its peak "from days 9 to 12". Generally if you're brewing coffee (as opposed to making espresso) you'll have a wider window. But however long it is, it's a few weeks max. Fortunately, you can freeze whole bean coffee, and it should last for months (in a deep, chest style freezer, it might be a year or more). I split up the 12 or 16 oz bags I get in half (6 or 8oz), double bag them in freezer bags, and pull one or two out a week, as I use them up. You can do the same thing with mason jars, or something similar. Just make sure to let the beans come up to room temp before opening them up (otherwise they'll get condensation all over them, which is no good). And I haven't had good luck re-freezing beans, once they're out of the freezer, just try to use them up.

Was this a “blend” joke ‘cause I really don’t see this as a legitimate response to what you were being accused of.

My original point was that, when people are all like HEY THIS GUY IS SCUM but no one votes him, it reeks of scumbuddies throwing suspicion around but not committing with actual votes, as to have a point to backtrack to to validate a bus. Typically when this type of situation occurs, I jump on those players.

So why respond with a bunch of crap about coffee? It’s not the worlds best logic. I mean sure, scum sometimes will distance by calling their scumbuddies scum but they do that with town too and town even does that ‘cause you can have more than one scum read at a time but aren’t able to vote them all at once. So this black and white thinkin’ that scum and only scum will only call their buddies scum and not call them town and not call town scum is a mildly retarded stance. Scum do sometimes vote their buddies as well. What I find surprising is that you rather lynch whom you believe is being pushed by scum. So who were the scum that was “bussing” me?

I ditto GB here. I don not like Adorks “placeholder” vote on DM. Possible distancing here.

As scummy as I find Adork he does bring up a very good point.

Plan B has been on 3/4 of the main wagons for the day. However, he's also been first or second vote on them as well. Anxiety's been mid-wagon on both PR-claim wagons. Anyone have thoughts on these two?

There’s prob scum between those two.

[Nero Cain]

Reads like scum keeping a partner at arm's length, but alleviated of having to vote them because the wagon wasn't gaining traction.

lol. How is what he did different then your fence sitiing on piggy? Oh don't worry about replying with anything like "well piggy flipped town so she can't be my scum buddy" 'cause that not what I'm accusing you of.

+ There’s a lot of “I’d be ok with this lynch to” Keep your options open more.

So I’d say scum is likely in adork, 4nx, plan b, TF with RC and F-16 as low end possibilities.

Also someone said something about how they think its unlikely for both me and piggy to be town prs. Whoever said that is very likely scum.

[Nero Cain]

Also someone said something about how they think its unlikely for both me and piggy to be town prs. Whoever said that is very likely scum.

I think several people said that, including you.

I’m really thinkin’ that Plan B is scum with Piggy. He’s really fence sitting on her. Joins the Jacob wagon then calls me scummy for not finding Jacob scummy then when the Jacob wagon starts to loose steam he jumps off for finding Jacob not scummy. (HELLO CONJETIVE DISSONANCE!!!) And he didn’t answer my last question which really annoys me.

Vote:piggy

If it’s a scum slot then there’s no reason to trust here results so if she flips scum then I bet she has some buddies in the group saying “let her live.”

VOTE: Nero Cain

?????????????????????????????

*slams head against desk*

My finding Piggy is

NOT

the same as "lulz 2 town PRs outted on day 1? unlikely"

Plan B keeps pushing that he thinks I'm a serial killer when there's been nothing to hint towards an SK even existing is also a bit suspect.

The game is too small for a second team and the town wincon lets us know that there's more than just a mafia faction but Plan B

shouldn't

be sk hunting if he's town.

More tomorrow but I’d still like to lynch Plan B, adork, 4nx.

Vote: PLANB

No town SK hunts like he’s doing.

[Nero Cain]

The fact that Nero Cain considers multi-posting a scumtell is hilarious.

So you are a believer in "scum wouldn't do this" type arguments? While it varies from player to player, scum do attempt to clutter up the thread and pretty extremly active at times.

So, here DoomYoshi is trying to link Plan B to his scumbuddy JacobSavage by saying that conditional upon JacobSavage's flip, he will FOS PlanB. So, this is bussing/distancing combined with making someone else look guilty if the scumbuddy flips scum.

And if JS flips town? You should have it in the back of your mind that Doom trying to pair JS/Plan B might have been an attempt to get scumbuddy B some town cred.

You're oversimplifying it. My point is that when many people tend to call someone scum without anyone pushing a wagon on them, it's usually done by scum to blend in or give them a bus-vote to fall back on.

Ok. So in the three quotes you gave 1/3 were scum. To me, this looks like you knew there was scum calling me scum.

I'm cool with a JS lynch because of DY trying to set up lynches based on JS flipping scum

Why are you concerned with JS (and DY) but not adorkable setting up lynch chains?

DoomYoshi is known scum. PiggyGal15 is known town. I'm accusing DoomYoshi of going with the flow while saying you were a better wagon than N, then preferentially voting N over you when your wagon was called into question.

I explained how the relative ease of the PiggyGal15 wagon and her claim at L-1 + hammer threat was enough to take her off my lynch list. Just how are these similar things?

My point was, and I know that you won’t agree with it, but for others…scumDY fence sat between me and N, you fence sat on piggy. I don’t think there’s that big of difference.

Your “I explained how the relative ease of the PiggyGal15 wagon and her claim at L-1 + hammer threat was enough to take her off my lynch list.” Looks like inside information to me.

Also, this is the second time you've thrown out an accusation and tried to shut down an answer before I could respond.

Would you like some cheese with that?

Nero Cain claimed out of the blue in a way that seemed specifically tailored to the game environment to dismantle the wagon.

That’s rank, dude. Both alignments are going to claim prior to their flip. I knew my schedule, I wasn’t going to be back online till the 13th. This “OMG NERO IS SO SCUMMY FOR CLAIMING BEFORE L-1 “

I dunno, and don't care overly much. Also, Serial Killer is just one option, a

different

scum faction is another.

ITT Plan B claims N isn't in his scum group.

Are you just conceding the rest of my points against you?

What are these "points"?

[Nero Cain]

Toon, why do you want to know who I blocked?

I'm cool with a JS lynch because of DY trying to set up lynches based on JS flipping scum

Why are you concerned with JS (and DY) but not adorkable setting up lynch chains?

I only care about DY doing it because HURR DURR we know he was scum. Can't say the same about adorkable now can we? Are we reading the same game?

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Yes we are. A JS lynch was a deffinite possibilty yesterday. It would be risky of DY to try and throw his buddy under the bus like that. IMO, I think Plan B would be the most likely scum. And thats even assuming its a town/scum paring. Its very plausable that its a town/town grouping. I do not like how your so willing to dismiss dorks scummy behavior.

[Nero Cain]

I didn't say I was willing to dismiss it, you said that. Don't put words in my mouth.

fair enough.

I don't understand how you can say "a JS lynch was a definite possibility" and then say it would be risky for DY to try to turn a lynch on his buddy into a town lynch the next day. That's like...exactly what you should do ask scum

I'll have to go back and look at the time frame but for awhile the JS lynch looked like it was going to go through. If JS was town and Plan B was a scum buddy then using the JS lynch as away to get B some town cred makes perfect sense to me.

[Nero Cain]

Nero, why do you have me and adorkable as scumreads?

I think you've been active lurking like a boss. You have to read the game instead of scumskim for why I suspect dork.

[Nero Cain]

EMP, why do you think its a three man scumteam?

JS-more content plox.

[Nero Cain]

3 seems kinda small to me though. You think 4 is to much?

[Nero Cain]

I didn't play to well this game.