Mafia 59: Hell on Earth - Game over!

[PJ.]

FoS: Twito, milkman, Battle Mage, spectrumvoid, Nightfall,livingod, Yosarian2, Fircoal, Jack, Smashy, ~N9V~, Bogre, M4yhem, and Frustian. Vote: Cheesefan

Woohoo! I'm happy the game has started. And now it's spicy.

[PJ.]

You, me, Al4xz, and Akbar.

[PJ.]

Unvote FoS: Cheesefan

along with the others

Vote:Fircoal

[PJ.]

[/b] Unvote, Vote Jack[/b]

[PJ.]

I think Al4x is scum, but Jack is scumm too. Anyway Fircoal, I helped start the wagon you were talking about, I didn't put him at -1. I believe you got on that wagon after I did as a matter of fact. Anyway that is another game and doesn't matter

[PJ.]

Why do I have to talk about newbie 298 in every game I'm in? What the hell? Dude, claims move games. That why i did that, then i got lynched before i could respond

[PJ.]

Okay, 1000 points to Yos and I am throughly convinced that the man isn't scum.

On the newt, If I was or am the newt I believe that I would play it by breadcrumbing who I investigate, and if I die then a clever town such as Yos can say "Hey, Guys I think Panzer was Newt and such and such is scum." I do believe that Yos has a good strategy in the second one and would probably switch to it if i was or am the newt.

[PJ.]

True. -1000 points for Yos. The man may be scum.

[PJ.]

Unvote, Vote: Al4xz

for giving no reasoing at all. At least explain your vote on me. BTW I'm still FoSing everyone on the original least + Cheesefan and no longer FoSing Frustian.

[PJ.]

when i am about to be lynched.

[PJ.]

Apply pressure. Use illusion to force mistakes in the the target and those watching.

[PJ.]

Unvote

I'm lost in this game.

[PJ.]

So my entire wagon is because I trusted Yos? What can I say? I really liked that post because it was nice. Well, if the lynch is going to fall on me, I'm going to vote scum. This is for being the only one to react to not being FoSed. You were so defensive it was quite funny. I'm impressed that the FoS trick caught scum and possible tww if Al4xz is scum.

Vote:Akbar

[PJ.]

No I just have terrible ideas, including the tactic of leaving 3 people out of my FoS. I believe Akbar being so defensive is a scumtell, both Al4xz and Jive read it as a joke and ignored. Akbar has taking it and voted me for it. And tiwto to me this game is fun because I can make jokes. If you want to help hang more for a joke then I probably wouldn't find this game fun. Now lets catch some scum, meaning let's hang an Akbar

[PJ.]

Thank you Jack, and hey let's follow who Panzer is voting for know on,

Vote:Twito

You love to push wagons and they shy away from those who seem close to you, I wonder why Mr.Scum.

[PJ.]

No, I'm just feel like focusing on scum. If you guys don't think Twito is scum then lynch me.

[PJ.]

Yes. Don't worry when I die as town I hope you are lynched.

[PJ.]

Alright, Twito I'm town and you get lynched? Works for me

Vote:PanzerJager

[PJ.]

No Al4xz, lynch me. Find out I'm town and that Twito has been not only pushing the wagon of a townie but doing it in a scummy fashion then lynch twito tomorrow. Come on let's lynch me.

[PJ.]

Vote: Twito

My vote on myself is to prove that Twito is scum and honestly I agree lynching me would provide loads of information and mainly confirm that he is scum. Let us look at the reasons why.

Vote: Panzer

For attempt to bandwagon and failing on it.

Vote: Panzer

For attempt to bandwagon and failing on it.

Confirm Vote: Panzer

for succeeding againts all odds.

He tries to build a wagon on me for an insufficient reason then continues to push it as everyone is talking. Soon after I agree that Yos was town shortly after he does then Twito says:

Lucky. I'm already voting Panzer-scum.

He calls me scum for compling with him. How funny, he still pushs a wagon with bad reasoning then everyone appeals to authority and piles on. M4yham questions this.

unvote, Vote: Al4xz

for that quick bandwagonning vote with no reasoning attached. Yes, I'm aware of the Irony.

IGMEOY Yos.

Twito- You made a comment that Yos's stratagising posts make him seem town. How come you are claiming Panzer is scum for saying almost the exact same thing? What's the difference?

I often mistake Yos2 for town just coz he makes good and long strategy based posts.

Meaning I don't think Yos's strategising posts make him town. It's pretty much the exact opposite with Panzer.

And let's make a FoS: Al4xz aswell.

He backpeddles; what he said orignally was that he was leaning that Yos was town, not that it made him scummish. Shortly after this, Yos said you know that is a nulltell and Twito agrees with him, but continues to push my wagon. People are still appealing to authority.

My brains are not functioning that well atm and I really should go to sleep. I for example don't have the slightest memory of this game which someone might think would lead into me not posting but as I don't want to read since my last post I'm gonna post anyways and read tomorrow since this post.

Earlier in the game he accused Cheesefan and one other person of being scummy because they weren't posting content. Does this secretly contain something profound?

Ugh. I have no idea what a FoS is, don't tell me I'm a noob, I already know that. I can't decide who to help hang-Akbar or Panzerjager. Someone tell me who to hang besides Akbar or Panzerjager. Don't tell me you're gonna think me scum for me saying this.

Just look who Twito is voting and vote the same person. If Twito changes his vote so do you.

Thank you Jack, and hey let's follow who Panzer is voting for now on,

Vote:Twito

You love to push wagons and they shy away from those who seem close to you, I wonder why Mr.Scum.

Thank you for confirming yourself as scum Panzer-scum. It sure looks like you have decided to die now.
And yes I admit I love Jack a'ight.

Honestly this vote makes no sence what-so-ever.

He pretty much tells us not to think and to follow him like sheep. Would a protown player want the town to not think? Then he again finds a reason to push me for mocking him. After I vote myself and say that he is scum, he pretty much stops talking and is just posting stupidly. He asks if I'm betting my life and then says if i turn up scum he won't be lynched. In short I believe he has insider information on who is and isn't town and has a one track mind. Why did he stop being able to post anything of content after I voted myself? Nobody knows.

[PJ.]

If you guys seriously think I am scum then lynch me, that is all.

[PJ.]

First of i posted that before akbar and twito posted. Second Twito is just saying selfvote is scummy. Am I going to defend? No. Akbar, those defending are defending me because they know I'm not scum. I believe you and Twito are scum buddies. I really don't have the time right to explain in class. Peace.

[PJ.]

Okay then why arn't we lynching me

unvote, Vote:Panzerjager

[PJ.]

Then take note of my voters.

[PJ.]

Alright then back to normalcy

Vote:Twito

[PJ.]

Ok, I'm going to not speak unless in danger of being prodded and am hereby erasing my self votes from my memory. There is nothing anybody can do to change my mind that Al4xz is scum.

Vote:Al4xz

[PJ.]

But It's cause I hate you Twito. Al4xz is scum.

[PJ.]

Twito, just stay in mexico. I'll stay in San Diego and we won't have to have any epic Equilibrium status Gun-Fu fights.

[PJ.]

It is really because I admire you for being more of a bastard then I am and being good at it. So if I can't beat you, I hate you. This is why I am good at sports, because I play everything to be the best.

[PJ.]

Anyway can we lynch some Al4xz?

[PJ.]

M4yham, claiming for me doesn't help te town. I apoligize but I will never claim when I have this role, sorry I can not cooperate but either way, me dying or claiming hurts the town.

[PJ.]

I forgot to unvote my last vote. so

Unvote, Vote:Al4xz

[PJ.]

Alright, everyone is is asking me to claim, I apoligize but claiming and dying really mean the same thing. All I can do is assure you that I am protown. My self-vote was to make a point that I am a townie that wanted to prove Twito was scum and fuelled from anger. It was not conducive to catching scum or Twito-scum.

[PJ.]

Yes, what changed your mind? Perhaps it involved the number 7. Also Protip: Don't unvote if you are a townie about to be lynched. Vote for scum the man you think is scum. I fucked up and did this myself cause Twito is a meany head.

[PJ.]

Twito, don't pretend you can read me.

[PJ.]

I said claims move games but that was a generic statement. And In this enviroment the claims do not move games. When I said that, I was fresh off the boat from WIFOM.net which is theme game heavy and name claims move games. I'm tired of people refrencing newbie 298.

Beyond that, My claim would be worse for town and that is all I'm saying.

[PJ.]

SV I had said that it was from Newbie 298 on page 2 I believe.

[PJ.]

STOP!





Hamma Time!!

Anyway yes I do believe someone needs to hammer Al4xz and preferably with out the MC Hammer.

[PJ.]

why?

[PJ.]

damn, you got me. I'm MC Hammah, unkillable town roleblocker, I can come to your house and impresse you with my moves. You become so stunned that you immediately forget what you are doing and go do a line of Cocaine.

[PJ.]

OMG! Twito you got me, lol.

[PJ.]

What if I am the real town piece? And If I wasn't, Worf would have to be retarded to claim.

[PJ.]

Cool Yos. Either no one in this game is getting my role through anything other then death, be it scum,town piece, or vanillatown.

[PJ.]

I'm not.

[PJ.]

Twito is dead. This is rather incriminating. I need to reread to see who do try to set me up like this. *waits for the dog pile*

[PJ.]

Why would you vote me with the logic of someone probably framed you but...

Vote: N9V

If you just said "I think your scum no one would frame you you're full of shit," then i would agree but that is just bad logic. You're my vote for now.

[PJ.]

If you realize I could be framed why vote me?

[PJ.]

EBWOP: I belief Mayham at this point is the most likely suspect. Please read his post. The recent ones.

[PJ.]

Because I have seen scum try to frame others and I'm very familiar with the process of framing. I'm suspicious of you for so elegantly pushing my wagon.

I don't like M4yhe playingm, he starts defending me then says I'm annoying. He wants me to be lynched and then the main person I argued for dies. He then jumps on my wagon day 2 and says I'm oh so scummy and that I should die. Well, isn't that a bit sketchy

Vote:M4yhem

[PJ.]

Well, I believe I have backed myself into a corner.

[PJ.]

Because you are a bad player that only believes something when it is pointed out signs. And I believe it as a soft claim..which is kinda bad.

[PJ.]

I feel the same. Makes me think things.

[PJ.]

Well, I didn't consider that he was a cop. I said, that "insider information", meant he was scum easily leading you guys to a mislynch, because I would have been hung if Al4xz didn't do the equivalant of bus him self. Anyway, I love the misrepresentation.

[PJ.]

This is from post 253, Panzer’s rant on Twito.

He asks if I'm betting my life and then says if i turn up scum he won't be lynched.

In short I believe he has insider information on who is and isn't town

and has a one track mind.

This statement is a self implication of Panzer being scum. Panzer is attempting to cover the issue by condemning Twito for knowing too much. Although, I don’t think Twito had time for any investigations, Panzer may not have considered that before posting.

I don't like how he terribly misrepresented my post. Everyone else understood I was saying that Twito was scum, not a power role. Not only this he has a total of 12 post, all 12 of them about how we should lynch someone and how he is totally right about me and Al4xz. How can you be so sure? And what is with the lack of activity from you Akbar?

Unvote, Vote:Akbar

[PJ.]

Stalling = Too much. Let's get moving.

vote Panzer

Stalling too much? It's been 3 pages! 3! Note: Livingod is anxious for night. I wonder why. He already knows his night target and he knows he wants my mislynch.

[PJ.]

I wish I could delete all of my post before day 2.

[PJ.]

Well, I can't defend myself. Let's lynch me.

Unvote, Vote:Livingod

[PJ.]

I'm simply going to let you kids lynch me and I'll leave my vote on someone that I'm sure is scum. I really don't care anymore. /wave

[PJ.]

Livingod, I'm convinced you are scum. That nice how you tried to actually make a point, and say "I'm not scum he is a insane cop" and then say I'm probably just scum though. You only caught yourself after, you had made a huge mistake. I find it hard to believe you forgot it was an open game.

Confirm Vote: Livingod

[PJ.]

I answered that question 10 times already. It was because I was trying to prove a point. That i'm town and twito is scum. Twito is town. I'm not scum. nuff said.

[PJ.]

I'm not claiming. So boohoo. I'm town. No big deal.

[PJ.]

The reason I voted myself is because Twito was pushing that I was scum. I told him when I turn up town I'm expecting that you are lynched. At the time he was acting scummy. This is why I voted myself, to prove that he was scum, not and me as town when I died. He turned up town and a cop. I wish that hadn't happened.

Milkman, no claim. Sorry.

[PJ.]

I can't defend my own stupidity. I have no good excuses so why go through the unnecessary steps of defending if it was my own carelessness that got me into this situation. This happens to be a game that I used to be stupid and have recently deceided to want to try and play it right.

[PJ.]

Alright.

[PJ.]

My last words:

My vote is on livingod, I believe we can all agree with this. I will do a quick anlysis on him. He has post 27 times with only 3 votes. Problem is 2 of those votes were late on the wagon ofAl4xz and I respectivly. His Al4xz vote put him at -2 and His vote on me put me at -1. He didn't give any reason for any vote even when asked. Also note that 19 of his 27 post were worthless 1 or 2 liners that were either completely unrelated or related very vaguely. That is 8 post of content and that being nice because I didn't include either bandwagon vote without any reasoning. So really his about 6 game related post.

Well, the vibe I'm getting from Panzer is a newbie cop tell and a newbie scum tell. Since I'm not scum, he's probably insane, paranoid, or random. Neither helps us as much as the sane cop (I assume there to be one, IF Panzer is a cop).

But I get more scum vibes.

Notice how he attempts to explain how the game is working and how I should be an Insane cop that investigated him and blah blah blah. He then post that he "forgot" it was an open set up. So these post were game related but really were just a crap defense on against my one vote. A little overdefensive are we? That leaves 4 good post right? wrong. One was a comment about how claims only get the claimer killed. The other was a series of rhetorical question about wanted direction. One was pretty telling we should lynch Al4xz cause he is WIFOM and lastly his 1 last post of game related content was that he can't follow my logic and how I should claim. He has been a person who slightly lurcked and has definently avoid any commitment or opinions to this game. He has been sitting back in the shadows waiting for people to inevitably lynch the people with very large wagons on them.

[PJ.]

No, because I'm town. They will wonder why I wanted Livingod dead so much he made a case about him.

[PJ.]

Way to not comment on anything and join a wagon. I should have been the lynch yesterday is a terrible reason to vote now. It means you haven't put any thought into the game and are just lynching someone so you can get to night not so you can help the town. With this set up(Irony is coming) the town has to play more consercative and smart and make sure they get the lynchs right. We only have so many mis-lynchs because the town happen to have no guns, just info roles. I suggest you read before your next post and include logic in said post.

FoS:Bogre