Mafia 59: Hell on Earth - Game over!

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Me here, I won't be on till Monday though. Just posting my Confirmation

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/Mod, could we have a vote count?

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May I please add something?I have been in three games now with Panzerjager, and in all three, his posts always eem scummy. I'm just throwing that out there.

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FoS on me why? Is it because I know his playing style? If so, then that is a real horrible reason why to think someone is scum.

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Heh, sorry, but I haven't been lurking. My computer crashed, ten days ago. We just got a new one today. I thought that I had posted saying I wouldn't be on to much, mabey once or twice. But I do beleive I told Kelly Chen that in a pm.

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Vote: al4xz

lynching someone for no reason is very bad.

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Vote: Panzerjager

yes, I know someone may be trying to frame you but also mabey not. For now my vote goes on you, and will be easily removed when I find it right.

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Yes, but see then it would make me look bad if you got lynched, and you were framed. For al I know, mabey you are full of shit. But then, mabey not.

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Panzerjager said that I should of said "Your full of shit, no-one framed you, your scum," and I replied by saying, if I did say that, and you were framed, then it would make me look majorly guilty, so pretty much its WIFOM.

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Yes, I do think his few posts have been scummy, especiually his last one.

But, just one question Panzer. Why did you throw it out there that you were getting framed. Ut's almost like, thats what you want everyone to believe.

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Twito is dead. This is rather incriminating. I need to reread to see who do try to set me up like this. *waits for the dog pile*

I would like you all to look at this post. Tell me what looks scummy. If you can't find it, I'll highlight it for you.

Twito is dead. This is rather incriminating.

I need to reread to see who do try to set me up like this.

*waits for the dog pile*

Why would he come out first post after the night, and say: "I'm being set up."

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Sorry I was inactive, I've just been signing up for highschool, had lots of discussion with my parents.

Unvote: panzerjager

I have to read back to see what exactly went on in the first 17 pages.

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If you ain't gonna claim, then I might aswell put my vote back up, since you arn't trying to help yourself anymore.

Vote: panzerjager

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Hmm, way to kill panzer you horrible, horrible man.

FoS: Bogre

you could've at least gave a good reason.

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I also beleive that Bogre is scum, but not putting my vote on. A very quick day 3 isn't good for town.

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Actually, there are more scum than townies. It's 8-7 right now. And there's three people who could be lynched today: Bogre, livingod, and Battle Mage.

livingod has stood out more in day one and two. But Bogres horrible hammer at a horrible time made him my suspect #1.

So in my conclusion,

Vote: Bogre

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*bites prodding finger* I also, will post later. But for the past page I've read back on, my vote still stays with Bogre for the horrible hammah!

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Guys, we have now rushed through two days, stop and think about it before you throw a fucking hammer. God.

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Guys, we have now rushed through two days, stop and think about it before you throw a fucking hammer. God.

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Jesus, thanks alot guys. God, I was going to put my vote on Bogre, but that would put him at -1 to lynch, and that wouldn't be very good. We need a good day today. So as of now, the main people to lynch will be Battle Mage and Bogre.

Right now, I think whoever has the "Newt' role to come out. It would be betgter for him to tell us who he has looked at, becaus ethats three people we can rule out as town right there. Because as soon as he hits a mafia member, he dies.

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I think Battle Mage would be a better lynch today. Bogre would to, but Battle Mage made the second speed hammer, and that is just unnessacery.

Vote: Battle Mage

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And also Fircoal hinting you. Since he was the cop, I would say that is sufficient enough for me. But I really don't want to put him to -1 lynch..

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Hmm, actually, for reasons stated this page and last,

Unvote, Vote: Bogre

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I've always wanted to draw that. To bad I'm not the one hammering.

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Pfft, O.K, so a uncharacteristic hammer TWO days in a row doesn't make it look like a mafia group going out and trying to kill all townies. And just to let you know, EVEN if I was scum, I wouldn't be trying to kill townies right now. THey need at least one protown player alive to win. Think before you post.

An second, what about everyone else who thought you and Bogre were scum? Does that mean they're scum?

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So, to condense what I said in a long drawn out way above. I'm wondering if M4yhem was the attempted kill by the Aliens last night and confirmed Borg to 3 people, Battle Mage was the attempted kill by the Borg two nights ago and confirmed Alien to them and we now have two rival scum teams trying to lynch the guy that they know to be scum.

Hmm. Interesting speculation. Not sure the scum groups would be that obveous, though.

And just to let you know, EVEN if I was scum, I wouldn't be trying to kill townies right now. THey need at least one protown player alive to win. Think before you post.

Not true. If there are no pro-town players left, the scum group with the more scum left wins. So if you're in the scum group that's ahead you might be trying to wipe out all the townies now.

Read the win conditions under the second post.

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BM, you have the worst case against me I have ever seen. Well, you think I'm scum when I'm clearly town, that means you must be scum. That's what your case looks like.

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BM, you have the worst case against me I have ever seen. Well, you think I'm scum when I'm clearly town, that means you must be scum. That's what your case looks like.

Wow. That is so incredibly scummy.

How are you "clearly town"? You've not posted many times all games, and most of the posts you have made have been iffy at best, such as your waffling on Panzer; first you defended him based on playstyle, then you voted him, then you unvoted him, then you voted him again, and then you went after Bogre for lynching him when you were also on that bandwagon yourself.

Just declaring that you're "clearly town" and that anyone who votes you "must be scum" just makes you look that much more scummy.

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. If m4yhem wasn't so obveously scum, that would be a vote.

And how is BM clearly town? Also, so, there were plenty of other people who were on the Panzer, and on Bogre, so I guess they're all scum to?

I think that there is still one or two scum in this group: Yos, BM, and M4yhem.

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Hmm, I think it is looking towards all three, M4yhem, Yos, and BM are all scum. BM is least on that list, Yos is highest.

Fos: Yos, M2yhem, BM

Not ready to vote yet, we need to discuss the day, not do another quick lynch.

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Err, I mean m4yhem.

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Battle Mage, why are you so sure that I am scum? We have two confirmed scum now. M4yhem is Alien, and Yos is Borg. That is if M4yhem is telling the truth in the first place. I think it's safer to kill Yos, and then M4yhem. Because if the numbers are 3-2 like they will be after this night no matter who gets lynched, it's better than a possible 3-1 situation for the town. That means that there are 8 people left: 3 Borg, 1 Alien, 1 Newt, and 3 Townies. That would put it into a lynch or lose situation. Yos is the safer lynch today.

Vote: Yos2

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Let me clear that up better. We lynch M4yhem today, and he is Alien, that leaves it to a 4-2. Yos is killed and turns out to be Borg, its then 3-2. And Alien targets whoevr and turns out to be alien, then it's 3-1.

With the same theory of scum groups as above, we lynch yos, and its 3-3. M4yhem dies, 3-2, and someone else could even it up 2-2.

Also, I say it's a safer bet if the Newt doesn't veiw anyone tonight.

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A no lynch would look like this. Yos would be dead, and he would turn up borg. And probably I would be dead and turn up alien.

3town/1alien/2borg

Vote:Yos2

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Lalyn is probably Borg, because we've brought proof on him day in and day out, and your still not gonna vote him.

FOS: Jalyn

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Lets put it this way: Yos is scum, everyone whos not sure with the proof brought against him is his scum partners.

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Not at all. I took a risk last night, because if I would've killed you, then the town had no lead for who to kill, except for me. I was next on most people's scum list, so I decided to kill milkman, who was on the high on my list, and some of the others. What I'm surprised about Yos, is that your scum group didn't kill BM last night. He is the most obvious town looking player in this game. And I know that you killed a random person last night, who wasn't in your group. But hell, why not BM, why not take down the whole town that night. Seriously, BM has made excellent posts against your group, and mine. And he has been the most active, and for once, the most smart townie when coming to posts.

So, the reason why, or at least my reason. BM is also Borg. For the past 3 days, BM has been the best damn townie, and there has been no kill on him. Reason our group didn't target him at all, because we needed to kill Borgs, not townies, and he sure as hell looked like a townie in our eyes.

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I'mnot saying whomypartner is, without him coming out clean. If he wants to claim, then fine by me.But othe rthan that, I'm not giving the Borg a free night kill tonight and the next night. I need to know who else you find to be Borg, so I can silence them tonight.

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Sorry BM

Uhh no, we need to lynch someone. A no lynch would send this game over at night.Because they wouldn't target me, or the two members in their scum group, so that leaves a 2/3 chance of hitting a town, when our group is 2/4 We need to lynch someone.

Vote: Nightfall

he's scum guys. If not, well then it was a good game with all of you.

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Unvote Vote Skruffs

Actually, I think you are more likely to be scum. With those last two post. The mosts cummy one is the first one

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I was never voting no lynch. Get your facts staraight before your so bold to claim someone as scum.

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This is my list for most likely to be Borge:

1: Skruffs

2: Nightfall

3: Spectrumvoid

4: Theo

5: Jalyn

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Now you know what would be funny, If I was actually town.

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XD But yeah. I am town. I just said I was alien so that Yos would get lynched.

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I know. Hmm but why lynch me today? You have tommorow. I'm confirmed alien, so why today? Let me lay it out like this:

Lynch Me and turn out Alien:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
2-2-1

Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
1-2-0 (Both mafia target each other)

2-0-1

(Both mafia target a townie)
2-1-1 (Both mafia target the same townie)

1-1-1

(Alien targets Borg, Borg targets town)

2-1-0

(Alien targets town, Borg targets Alien)

Say we lynch a town today:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
2-1-2

Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)

1-1-1

(Both mafia target each other)

2-0-2

(Both mafia target town)

1-0-2

(Alien targets Borge, Borge targets town)

2-0-1

(Alien targets town, Borg Targets Alien)

Say we lynch a Borg today:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
1-2-2

Then this is what can happen at night:
(Borg-Town-Alien)
0-2-1 (Both mafia target each other)

1-0-2

(Both mafia target a townie)
1-1-2 (Both mafia target same townie)

0-1-2

(Alien targets Borg, Borg targets town)

1-1-1

(Alien targets town, Borg targets Alien)

Allof the bolded ones are forsure losses for town. If we lynch a Borg for today, then the town's chances of winning go way up. If we miss, then what do you have to lose? Do the math, take what I just made above, and subract my kill for the next day (this is for my "Lynch Borg" chart. You have more of a chance of winning as you see.

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Hmm, nice contradiction on your part Skruffs....

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Yeah, I sent in the first kill, and was so pleased that we had a nokill, heh, but I guess I was jailed. Damn my luck :p

Good game everybody.