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AND NEITHER IS VARSOON
Pedit: Thor's never been this freaking town, ever.
Nacho's thoughts are super freaking transparent
I can never see where Nacho is going with this stuff when he's scum, I can see them now. I know what he's thinking, and his explanations are AHMAYZING
how he's defending his reads, how he is forming his reads is just so good that I would feel completely safe in his embrace
like, no joke.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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In post 3106, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Can you not just lynch a player around Page 70 or something?In post 3094, MC Maraca wrote:Can you not be a sarcastic mofo for once?
Yes, i can certainly be non-sarcastic, but this game is literally going no where while bloating under its own useless weight. I don't know about you, but by this stage I've read less than half the posts in the game and I'm pretty sure I've still had more and more clearly presented thoughts than most of the other players here. Heck, about a third of us *continue* to be unable to even place votes.
So I don't care. I just really don't. Let's get some flips, get some night actions, and then blow into tomorrow with info and a mountain of back interactions to look at - Day 1 has done all that Day 1 is going to accomplish at this stage. It's actually already done it 2-3 times over, so let's just move on.
Because...that's *anything* like how I play? Can you show even one example of such play from me?In post 3101, Sakura Hana wrote:And a Nacho/Thor, 2 ppl whom i think would easily pick up scum defending Varsoon then going for last minute bus.In post 3107, Casso the King of Seals wrote:GET OFF THIS DERP VANITY WAGON AND KEEP YOUR VOTE IN PLAY YOU FEEB!
In post 3108, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I'll also accept any explanation of what Stuffed did to look more town.
Because otherwise it is beyond fail that you just unvoted.In post 3111, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Do you even lift?In post 3110, KoreanBBQ wrote:P-Edit: Nothing. My vote's moving back there eventually but this looks fun.In post 3112, Casso the King of Seals wrote:"Yup, my vote is going back where it was, and no reads changed, and this game is 20809237 pages long but...HUUUUUR, random non-pressure, non-reaction, non-point wagon, Ho!!!!!"In post 3131, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
So...you actually have no idea what our scum play looks like, and (shock) are avancing a theory that doesn't even make sense with how Thor plays scum, and, for that matter, seems to barely grasp how Nacho plays as either alignment.In post 3113, Sakura Hana wrote:@Nacho/Thor: I have never played against Scum Nacho, but i dont remember Nacho ever handing out easy townreads like that, and i'd also expect him to be harsher on the lukers. Thor I was once a partner of his in a scumgame but i replaced in and my predecessor was obvtown so i don't really know whether he'd do that as scum, but I'm not ruling it out.
I don't know why Nacho was voting you earlier but I'll go ahead and endorse it now.
You can be town now, just because.
Also, sarcasm can't possibly do worse than the last 210398 pages of "not sarcasm" can it? What will I do, cause a terrible rift, divide town, and prevent them from reaching lynch consensus? Oh no, ANYTHING but that!
Still, I really do like that vote, it's at least game state advancing.In post 3133, Casso the King of Seals wrote:In post 3125, MC Maraca wrote:Pedit: why don't you all lynch F-16Unvote: Stuffed Crust
Vote: F-16
Done.
I don't even have a case on him. I don't care.In post 3137, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Your play here is beyond brilliant.In post 3127, KoreanBBQ wrote:Nope. I ain't lynching no one other than SC
these posts for a startIn post 3143, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
I do.In post 3136, Sakura Hana wrote:@Thor: And here i thought you were starting to agree with nacho's vote on me?
But...if you noticed that I advocated Nacho's read of you, which *suggests* you're reading my posts, then you might (you just might...if you squint) have noticed an *additional* concept I have maybe...y'know, mentioned off-hand once in passing. It goes something like this; I AM WILLING TO LYNCH ANYONE BECAUSE I AM SICK OF THIS GAME, THIS PLAY, AND THIS DAY.
Did you notice that thought? I might be able to round up a quote for you if you haven't - but you should probably advance a really weak slappy-dappy whine post about me not voting you because everyone will buy that as a town reaction and scumhunting.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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This? this was a great entrance post from thor, but I'm not reading to much into it.In post 306, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Vote: Goodmorning
I think the whole ISO blather is pure town sounding lies.
I like the Geist push but imagine Nacho may want to say something about it to me, and he's being a lurksack right now. And he was supposed to be the posting head here, so...yeah.
As a random note - I refuse to sign anything, if you can't tell the difference between Nacho and me I don't care, read us as a single entity anyway, that's how a hydra works last I checked.
I have FF, Stuffed, and Generic as town.
Reads may adjust as we combine them, or maybe Nacho will sheep me - you'll have to wait and see.
Here's my application to the town block also:
You're allowed to sheep me.
-Casso.
Done!
and this made me LOLIn post 307, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I wonder if my rants will be as effective with that seal face staring out at everyone.
This is a really good post from nacho, It shows his thinking and it was exactly what I was doing. not to mention that, doing that in that point in time kinda cut down on some of the things he could have done later on in the day. He is also prone to being paranoid of me, and has lynched me several times when I was town, and when he was town. He could very easily get a way with it but instead, he continues to defend me as the day goes on.In post 353, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I liked Mara's early push on Cephrir. The target in and of itself isn't really that special, but the way she went about it seemed good to me (mostly the whole gearing up for a push and then completely letting it go part, that felt nice). So generic, if you're getting an early townread on Mara based on her initial posting, we're probably in agreement.
I thought this was pretty genuineIn post 356, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
I don't think Brian has a tendency to look weak early game. I thought there was clear motivation in F-16s opening to stay alive to sort out Nacho-scum, and I thought that it was strange Brian immediately attacked that, especially considering the mentor mentee game that recently ended which proves F-16 can read me pretty competently.In post 350, geists wrote:Specifically I'm seeing parallels with how in Buzzword you jumped on the weakness in orcinus' entrance and encouraged/supported others' reads. At least with orcinus it was a genuinely off entrance. Brian's initial posts almost always look strained and uncomfortable.
and this was a "Well, yeah. Cabd is being cabd and right now, Mara is prolly the window to reading their slot."In post 357, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Yes? Cabd forming a town block with himself in the center early game doesn't exactly seem like something that's unlikely to be coming from Cabd-scum. Why do you disagree?In post 355, geists wrote:
You actually need mara's posts to read them?In post 353, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I liked Mara's early push on Cephrir. The target in and of itself isn't really that special, but the way she went about it seemed good to me (mostly the whole gearing up for a push and then completely letting it go part, that felt nice). So generic, if you're getting an early townread on Mara based on her initial posting, we're probably in agreement.
this post just resonated super, duper well with me.
This post from Thor was extraordinary, Sure, he can do this as scum but I don't think it's likely. It also shows that theyIn post 726, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Greetings,
Nacho's desire to get into a hydra with me when I *specifically* discuss about the entire concept of my hopes for a hydra being that someone is the posting head and I just get to spew thoughts into a QT is not really amusing to me at this stage.
He's not even doing a good job expressing my thoughts and outrage, in my opinion. Probably because he's convinced he has to paraphrase from a ruddy Hydra QT - which literally makes no sense, copypasta that gak, Nach!
I see people say they can have trouble reading Nach and then admit I'm in the mix and are wondering about reading me... ::insert noise of a back of throat chuckle mixed with a smirk::
In OTHER news!
Let's hit these strokes which Nacho didn't convey for me due to general suckage;
Seriously, what is this?In the QT Thor sez wrote:You can tell Geist Thor thinks his push is silly.
You mentioned Brian no more or less than Tammy or Ceph during your posting catchup. It's skeevy to isolate one and try to paint it as an attempt to push a weak player when;
1. We're voting elsewhere.
2. We are mentioning multiple other players as much or more.
3. I wasn't even aware Brian was the easy mislynch that everyone is frothing about.
I already think your silly backside is scummy and THIS is your big push on our slot? Color me un-ruddy-impressed.
Get to justifying this gak right now.
I wanna get this one out here too. What was that gak Tammy? WHile we're at it, MC can help further justify it as well since apparently it was a major town read in their mind while looking immensely fake to me.In the QT Thor sez wrote:I don't like how Tammy is getting into a fight with half a hydra's head, and then the other head is like 'I know what Head 1 is doing, I'mma sit back!' and Tammy just keeps punching as though he said nothing...makes it feel fake to me, like she realizes she's supposed to put on a show and is doing what is expected of her.
She's fake playing to her town meta, is what I'm saying.
She even basically calmed down in like thirty seconds. It felt VERY fake.
Justify pl0x!
Links to blow ups that look of similar "Realness" to this one as a counterpoint would be awesome.
I don't recall Tammy ever blowing up like that and then going insta-calm in anything I've seen her in though.
Have...you even offered a read on this slot? Y'know, as long as you're complaining others haven't?In post 666, KoreanBBQ wrote:Your seemingly-blank-looking-null read on Casso doesn't help anyone either ♫
Um...literally the only list we'd made prior to this was one I made.In post 669, pieguyn wrote:it seems really weird considering he hadn't included pitoli in his reads list wall before then.
And it was a town list.
So...whut?
@Goodmorning - I look forward to hearing all your thoughts from your last iso read, and am prepared to wait a few days/weeks for you to catchup and then do an additional iso read, I bet it will be revealing. I'll admit what I expect to be revealed is that you are scum, but I'm a touch the pessimist at heart.
At this stage of the game I'm bored enough to pretty much vote whomever if other players would just ruddy get their act together enough to actually agree on someone to push. I think THIS SLOT might be the biggest unified push to date, and we have like two votes on us. It's pretty obnoxious.
Some people should vote Pitoli or GM or Geist or BBQ or Tammy or something. I'll be there for you, heck, I'd even yell down Nacho on Tammy and push it to L-1 if it just meant an L-1 would happen prior to page 40 of this game.
@Falcon - sheep me.
@Desp - if you don't wanna read, sheep me.
@KoreanBBQ - I think you look scummy, sheep me.
@Domo - SHEEP!
@MafiaSSK - I have cookies, sheep me.
@Tammy - I have Nachos, sheep me.
Don't make me have to become the active head out of rage and boredom, I'll do it.aretalking about stuff in their QT
This is a "I liked your post, I never said I loved it"In post 755, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
I never said I loved your opening, I said I liked it.In post 748, Cabd wrote:Hey thor why don't you talk about what you loved about my opening?
I liked that you came in and attacked and prodded multiple players at a stage of the game people were being lazy and slow in getting things moving.
I also said I liked that Falcon attacked you for it, so don't start sending me any candy hearts anytime soon.
I never suggested your reads were good/bad/indifferent so don't get bent out of shape for something I didn't say.In post 749, DOMO wrote:Why would you think this? I might not be right, but I'm getting reads from my interactions with people. My reads are developing all the time and as such I feel like I'm doing the opposite of fail. That's not to say my reads are right, I'm saying I'm happy with my progress. If you're not, tough luck.
I *did* suggest it was uncool to derail as soon as it appeared some actual momentum shift and vote movement, because looking at that vote count this game desperately needs a serious wagon and a serious counter about twenty posts ago.
You have barely managed to present reads on a thirty page game while being snarky at others having the same issue. I can't imagine it should surprise you that people have issues with that.In post 753, KoreanBBQ wrote:I'm not though, because I think I'm actually quite satisfied with my play right now despite the slow starting.
slight hydra-miscom which is more likely to come from a town hydra over a scum one. (I think Nacho had relayed it as Thor loving Cabd's opening)
I kinda like this, Nacho sounds annoyed in general. this can go either way, but I think this was coming from a town mindset of "I don't have a comp, leave me alone" Kinda deal (though prolly not quite like that)In post 1401, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
-I am picking up on less crumbs than I normally would because iPad. I also don't think that's a scumtell for me.In post 1384, geists wrote:Laptop died and I'm posting on a crappy netbook so this is not going to be as detailed as I'd otherwise make it.
At the time when Nati and I first started to feel suspicious of Nacho it was for a bunch of reasons, none of which was really a clincher but together make a constellation that we feel is trouble.
We don't like how he apparently missed a ton of crumbs
We don't like how he seems to be currying favor with players rather than sorting them
We don't like the pitoli vote and especially don't like its timing. It came off like he was trying to deflect attention after we first went after him.
We don't like how he tried to push the non-aggression pact on us.
We don't like the whole tone of the exchange with Brian. The whole tone of that sounded off.
And we found Thor's posts pretty damn close to null content.
And finally, we don't like that when we asked him what he thought about SSK, he said that he was thinking about moving his vote there if Thor agrees. That was off for two reasons: the assumption that we were scumreading, not trying to sort SSK, and because he deferred the decision waiting for a catch up. That's not something he typically does as a hydra.
-I am currently considering going back to the Pitoli vote. The timing coincided more with my entrance in thread than your suspicion of me, though.
-Why not? The only advantage it offers me as scum is the towncred. I offered it originally because I thought Cabd would appreciate the gesture, but he apparently didn't get it.
-don't understand where tone was off there.
-I thought Nati was scumreading SSK and I was pretty ready to move forward on that. I'm no better at sorting him than ffery is and so thought the method of approach to him this game was to leave him in Nati hands. You are correct that I usually don't wait to sync up as a hydra. Thor is not my usual hydra partner; my usual hydra partner is someone like you or GiF who can see why I'm thinking what I'm thinking and doesn't diverge on my most basic of reads. There are other hydrate where i take primary control and thus don't differ much from my usual play. Then there are hydrate like Majiffy where our approaches differ in a way where my play needs to change significantly. With him, I tend to exert my personality over his since my reads are superior to his, hence Vegito and ridiculous aggression. With Thor, the biggest thing I want this hydra to give me is a greater understanding of him and for him to understand these pieces of our meta a little more. I don't think playing in the usual way will help me with that, and am much more comfortable with waiting for him than I am not waiting for him.
I liked this section of the post as it, yet again shows that they are talking, and not only talking, but scum-hunting withing their QT. this post shows that they are debating reads, and that they are actually trying to find some kind of common groundIn post 1780, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Serious question; do you think and/or have ever seen Tammy fake emotions as scum? Because Nacho is acting like that's writ in the stars, and you seem flakey on it, so one of you is talking out your backside as far as the read goes. So whassup with this? She is either emotive and thus gawd town, or she is emotive and able to fake it in which case I'd like one of the meta crowd to slap Nacho in the face with a rolled up newspaper.In post 1751, MC Maraca wrote:Tammy's a little more Meh-read now. She was God-town earlier, but holding a grudge on an attack that I had made earlier and not understanding where my paranoia of her is coming from is a little weird. The emotions were, and still are town as Smurf though and isn't something that isn't easily replicated as scum even by me and my ability to replicate most, if not all of my major town-tells is something I have alot of pride over.
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In post 2106, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Are you going to tunnel Mara now? You did say earlier that you were going to tunnel of hell her.In post 2203, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Because usually you become obvtown when you fight with Mara.In post 2109, Generic wrote:
Why are you so keen to get me fighting with mara?In post 2106, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Are you going to tunnel Mara now? You did say earlier that you were going to tunnel of hell her.
I see no reason why you wouldn't engage her if you thought she was scum, which I thought you believed before.
These three post sequence show Nacho not really understanding Generic, and wanting to understand what he's doing over jumping right away. he wants us to fight because it leads to one (or both) of us obvtowning ourselves which makes things a hellofalot easier for him.In post 2413, Casso the King of Seals wrote:When I ask you if you're going to tunnel Mara, you say that I'm setting you up a 1v1 between you and Mara.
When you are left to your own devices, you call Mara scum pretty fucking quickly.
What?
the third was him being confused because he didn't expect generic to be defensive (or something?) on the fight, and didn't really understand where Generic was going with his read on me, or what he was going to do with it.
the third post is genuine confusion
this especially made me smile because, this came before the mason claim and he could have very easily left this alone. he didn't, and it also shows that he actually has a understanding of where I come from when I play scum and he could have used this as a reason to scum-read me this game, but he didn't. he calls me town, and tries to get tammy to back off ( who I think is someone he thinks is town) and is trying to keep town from fighting amongst each other which is town as all fuck.In post 2890, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
Maras scumgames are interesting because they look pretty different from one another and are hard to peg down in most explanations of meta. They differ so strongly I think because Mara plays mostly from the heart as scum (like I've been doing recently), and she wouldn't lead out the planned emotional manipulation effort to discredit you. Cabd could plan it lately, but that's where Hard Boiled comes into play again: it was a poignant as hell experience where Cabd and I were basically wondering what the fuck we did to deserve an attack against of us that held that ridiculous tendency and laughed because we were both good scum players but we realized deep deep down we were completely and supremely fucked. I cannot see Cabd being so idiotic or suicidal to endorse or suggest a plan that went down that horror road ever again. I can see Mara making a weird push on you as town.In post 2570, Tammy wrote:I'm probably going to pass out now. I might not be able to post again until Monday, don't be sad.
The seal wagon is not a bad wagon at all. (Yes, Bert, in hard boiled I realized for sure nacho was scum for unnatural sorting of me, but it was mostly based on something I would have expected town him to pick up on about town me. I'm not so sure muffin is as easy to sort as I am, and it seemed really clear to me that nacho was maneuvering around who was obvtown to the crowd and creating noise that I didn't think he would create.)
(Speaking of Nacho, maraca's crap "gambit" had nothing to do with pushing me to look obvtown and if you are somehow town you're looking at that far too simplistically. Mara betrayed her underhanded motivations when she said she didn't push me as hard as she planned. You don't "plan" to push people for reactions as town, not in the beginning of the game. And not in the fashion as she did, unless you're a complete amateur, so if you and she will admit she has no clue whatsoever that she's doing in this game I'll think of stepping back, but in order to gauge reactions on someone you have to know them...you have to know what to push...you have to know some way of reading them. Anyone with a modicum of understanding of m game wouldn't have needed to do that. And her push was not in any way shape or form one to figure out my alignment, it was purely to piss me off, purely to discredit me. That is 100% evident by the ensuing days, so you comparing it to hard boiled is flawed because the motivation was not the same or even close.)
You're probably scum though so :/
I'm still not voting stuff crust because bar soon amused me.
Not voting muffin.
Surprised Sakura isn't a thing.
Would probs go back to voting BBQ, but meh.
Let's lynch maraca though!!!Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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yeah, those are Thor's posts.In post 3196, KoreanBBQ wrote:Aren't those thor's posts?Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Maybe I should post his phone number here, and you can spam texts at him. And his Skype.In post 3303, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
If you can get Nacho in here be my guest. He isn't doing gak for me right now either, it's just pressure voting him doesn't do much for me either. Derpy-doo. But if you let me know how I'm supposed to get him in here, let me know - I'll do it.In post 3299, MC Maraca wrote:Because I'm thinking I want to vote you right now and mara isn't here to bitch at me for doing it so nacho gets to sweet talk me out of it. Or since I suppose you want any lynch today, yours will do?Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30907In post 3313, Bert wrote:
Not allowed?In post 3308, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Looking at some things that I am not allowed to admit exist, I would just like to clarify that I really like the idea of Pie getting lynched.
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Tell me more about how you'd shoot the mason.In post 3316, Tammy wrote:Like I'd literally pay a virtual dollar for a vig shot on either mc maracaCabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Ok good, safe to ignore you for the rest of the game then since you obviously care more about "getting back at me" than you do playing the game properly.In post 3322, Tammy wrote:
And wouldn't blink.In post 3317, MC Maraca wrote:
Tell me more about how you'd shoot the mason.In post 3316, Tammy wrote:Like I'd literally pay a virtual dollar for a vig shot on either mc maracaCabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Your read on sakura. What kind of strength does it have behind it?In post 3348, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
I'm a little afraid to start writing haikus again.In post 3075, geists wrote:
If this turns into another NY 164 my haiku-writing will start a hell of a lot earlier this time.In post 3069, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Unvote: Sakura
Vote: Stuffed Crust
Pretty sure he's town.
Discuss.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Yes and no. She does this regardless of the day she's up for lynch, regardless of her alignment.In post 3485, DOMO wrote:Just a curiosity, is sukara regular day one lynch bait? I'm just wondering what inspired the tantrum.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WHY
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY WAGON
AND OUR VOTE
DESPERADO WHY ARE YOU NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION
earlier you stated that you didn't know what to make of my push on tammy. You said that you had no way of knowing if I was town making a stupid move, or scum doing so blatant to "help my wincon"In post 3247, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Mara, I don't agree with your reasoning for pushing Tammy and I assumed that it was scum motivated.
and then...
and then...
and then...
you still say I'm the towniest ON YOUR WAGON and that I obv-towned myself when you don't evenknowwhat town-mara looks like and spent... all day trying to say that I was scum without really calling me scum
and? your scumlist is shiiiiiiiiiiitttttt
You do nothing all day BUT try to discredit my play and you only try to work with us because we claimed Mason....
but, as for why you think my case on Casso is wrong
I'm very well aware of this, I town-read people all the time as scum. this is a far to simplistic version of my case on Casso, and it DOES NOT take into consideration what he knows about me, what I know about him, his knowledge on the kinds of things that make me squeamish, the kind of things that I don't hesitate to push on but completely disregarding that, anyway.In post 3252, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Suspecting you and pushing for your lynch isn't a scumtell. Saying that you are town isn't a towntell. Town can be wrong and scum will townread townies.
You also aren't interpreting the Nacho/generic interaction the way I did... it had nothing to do with Nacho admonishing him for scum-reading me
AND SPEAKING OF MY NACHO/THORCASE (mostly nacho)
In our game together, I was calling Nacho town for reasons FAR more useless than the ones I used here, I also called molla town for something super duper menial and you? you were all "oh, I'm glad you caught that" and didn't bother either of them, period. I was wrong on Nacho/andy, sure but you still trusted my read on them and you definitely didn't call them shit. Something I would expect from someone like, nero maybe but you?
it's pretty fucking weird. kinda like you're looking for a new way to discredit me since you can't call us scum anymore.
ALSO NACHO
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In post 3498, MC Maraca wrote:AND SPEAKING OF MY NACHO/THORCASE (mostly nacho)
In our game together, I was calling Nacho town for reasons FAR more useless than the ones I used here, I also called molla town for something super duper menial and you? you were all "oh, I'm glad you caught that" and didn't bother either of them, period. I was wrong on Nacho/andy, sure but you still trusted my read on them and you definitely didn't call them shit. Something I would expect from someone like, nero maybe but you?
it's pretty fucking weird. kinda like you're looking for a new way to discredit me since you can't call us scum anymore.
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STILL TOWN
Casso the King of Seals (Nachomamma8 + Thor665)
MC Maraca (Cabd + Ms Marangal)
KoreanBBQ (GuyInFreezer + Nero Cain)
Muffin
Stuffed Crust (Mac + Varsoon)
TOWN
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TOWN?
DOMO
Tammy/F-16_Fighting_Falcon*
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UHHH....
MafiaSSK roflwaffles
BROseidon
Norlkaz Brian Skies
Sakura Hana
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Ser Arthur Dayne
NOT TOWN
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VERY NOT TOWN
Tammy/F-16_Fighting_Falcon*
*conditional, they aren't scum with the other, so if one flips scum the other moves to the townish pile however there is the chance that they are town, together. so, while a scum-flip clears the other, a town-flip wouldn't likely condemn the other
Pedit: but... I already linked a game where I think she used emotions of a sort to disarm me from furthering my case on her where she was scum.
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(so... why is my aggression off-putting? considering that I have instances where I'm aggressive as town, and I wasn't aggressive in our game because of our role)In post 2963, MC Maraca wrote:
My aggression shouldn't be off-putting considering the biggest reason I wasn't aggressive in our game was because Our PR made us dying a very, very, very bad thing. I did whatever I could to not draw attention to usIn post 2478, Desperado wrote:
their reads are shit and mara's aggressiveness is extremely offputting after hydraing with her recentlyIn post 2456, pieguyn wrote:@Desp:can you explain maraca scum? mara is weirding me out a bit but she did that last time I played her so I can't tell shit > <
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Desp can't read me for shit, either.In post 2456, pieguyn wrote:@Desp:can you explain maraca scum? mara is weirding me out a bit but she did that last time I played her so I can't tell shit > <
meanwhile, every game I play against him (and with him) I get better and better at reading him.
do we even have another completed game together beyond Wingate?
also
Khan
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Thor and (I think it was) Pitoli
(I... didn't make anything up. what am I making up? and why get touchy on this, now when in the past you've admitted that you can't read me?)
Sunny was our second game together, so yeah I stated that.In post 2479, Desperado wrote:just checked
in always sunny town-you remarks to town-me that we have a terrible track record of reading each other
in walking dead town us read each other correctly
in maniacal town us read each other incorrectly until i was (falsely) conftowned based on bad setup spec
sounds like you just made some shit up, mara. why would you do that?
Walking dead, I'm pretty sure you were calling our slot town based on Neroposts. I am also pretty sure that you had stated that I wasn't that easy of a person to read.
Maniacal, Mala was reading you as scum, I was ambivalent (I think).
all those games just prove that you really can't read me.
also, Walking dead, I had correctly pinged you as town.
(and these are scum-tells... because?)
This isn't a case, love.In post 2532, Desperado wrote:
bad gambit, bad reads, weird mara blatantly lying about our meta to discredit me. really her whole reaction to me putting them in my scum team was off base:In post 2524, BROseidon wrote:@F16: You liar tell when stating that you're town but then don't liar tell that you don't know who scum are.
@Desp: What's the MC case? I've been townreading them all game and I get back to a bunch of "MC is scum" posts.
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Because Mara scum doesn't know how to mask partner interactions, and Marascum doesn't know how to make townies look like they are her partner in the event she flips town.In post 2429, Desperado wrote:
stuffed crust, maraca, geists, domo, dayneIn post 2426, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Who is pick for a scumteam?
Cabdscum is even worse in regards to that, and doesn't know how to play scum, period.
ohwait...In post 2458, MC Maraca wrote:
Desp can't read me for shit, either.In post 2456, pieguyn wrote:@Desp:can you explain maraca scum? mara is weirding me out a bit but she did that last time I played her so I can't tell shit > <
meanwhile, every game I play against him (and with him) I get better and better at reading him.
(It was pretty obvious that the points you put here are not only authorship mis-association, but you took what I said seriously? I mean, yeah Those are a part of my scum game that I'm am
Cabd asked you that, I made the earlier remarks at making those fake tells.In post 2575, Desperado wrote:
lol whatIn post 2545, MC Maraca wrote:I had a huge wall going and then the server decided I don't need to wall.
Desp, why call me scum and then leave GM out of the "partner" discussion when I've spent a shitton of time calling her town to anyone that asks?
1) didn't you just get done telling me how sooper awsum you are at leaving fake partner tells?
2) why do you think my scumteam has anything to do with your interactions with the other people in it?
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because Molla made it obvious. Nacho, however was a figment of my imagination based on what I expect him to pick up on, and based on the (probs. unrealistic) expectation of nacho's scum-game.In post 3505, Desperado wrote:And you townread kills and nacho for acknowledging your soft claim and not killing you. how is that menial?
I've also spent all day explaining why I think Tammy is scum.
it mostly was her not scum-hunting, her not understanding why I would be paranoid when she's duped me TWICE (not once, but twice) and one of those times, she has used emotion to do such.
granted, she is doing better now, but...
desp is gut and mostly based off his weird interactions with me.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Then claim not for yourself but out of respect for the fact that the other players here still enjoy it.In post 3518, Sakura Hana wrote:Nah, mafia isn't fun anymore for me and that's why im quittingCabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Tammy, I wrote that huge wall rant when I woke up in the morning.
I mistyped, meant to say I had a hard time seeing F-16 TOWN, though considering I was scum-reading him all day, and Nacho doing the opposite (and thor too, while I'm at it) uhh...
Nero/gif: My T/S list isn't in any kinda order, though Varsoon/Mac can be brought down a tier. Still wouldn't lynch them, though
I'd be down to lynch anyone from Null downward, though Sakura makes me a little queasy, as does arthur
I asked, why though.In post 3550, Casso the King of Seals wrote:Mara, I don't think Tammy is scum and I don't think F-16 is scum. I suppose F-16 is still a possibility, but that would take some pretty impressive improvement from his old scumgames after a very short time.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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Bert somehow managed to coast, and still be called town in the most recent white flag, though.In post 3605, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Like literally there is no way to analyze anything of his wagon no matter the flip when he's lynched in half a day.
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Point?In post 3607, Bert wrote:Yeah, that does bother me as it's an exercise in futility.
Also, Hey Mara, you're weird with your "uhh" read on me, that's the kind of stunt you pulled in Wingate.
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yeahIn post 3622, Bert wrote:
You're kidding, right?In post 3620, MC Maraca wrote:Bert somehow managed to coast, and still be called town in the most recent white flag, though.
I posted at least 3 prod dodges in EACH of the last three days, each timed at 1 day and 23 hours after the preceding one.
and you still somehow the towniest of the three of us
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I am also not doing thisIn post 3625, Bert wrote:Point is you claimed lovers in that game. You claimed masons in this game.
You're ultra fence-sitting on your read on me, much like you did in that game. It's the same rodeo again. Thankfully Cabd looks more town than you. But you bothered me when I came into the game, and your "uhhhh" reads on me are really shaky.
I am very clearly stating that I don't mind lynching you.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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This could be multi-ball
but it's unlikely
Masons being scum is abastardelement
an element I don't think the Normal review team would allow as the two exceptions to the rule
You havn't really done anything up to this point, and I don't know how you managed to get people to town-read you before the last 10 or so pagesCabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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The last two parts of your town-case of F-16 aren't resonating as well as they should be
the second to the last though, is more comparing his scum-game to my own and that usually doesn't end well
but the last comment, why is it unlikely for him to do that kinda thing as scum?Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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he's pretty much been underwhelming, IMO which is pretty bothersome
it could be because his posts aren't standing out compared to pretty much everyone else's but
Sakura is making my head spin
Norlkaz/Llamarble has done some things that (I think) crossed my mind
Arthur should be higher up in my list, but isn't because I feel a little paranoid about him (though I don't know why)
and Bro had some thing early game that I faintly recall. mostly his, early D1 interaction with nacho and this being nothing like his play in GM's normal
meanwhile, with Bert I'm drawing nothing but blanks
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but, if Tammy and Falcon are both town then I have to bring someone from my null-list (and possibly from the lower tiers of my towns) down.
the thought of having to touch any of my town-reads at this point, scares me and I'm kinda worried about my scum-read on Desperado because I did have him as town earlier today. He's got brought down because of his stance on us, his reaction being off to what I expect and because both Cabd and my mason buddy disagree on that read
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you thought Bert was town in the Open game.In post 3711, Casso the King of Seals wrote:
I think Sakura is town.In post 3614, MC Maraca wrote:Sakura Hana
Norlkaz
Ser Arthur Dayne
BROseidon
MafiaSSK/Bert
these are my null's in the order of towniest --> scummiest
Norlkaz is pure null.
SAD is null leaning town right now. Bert point on why SAD is unlikely to defend SSK as scum is actually a pretty good point.
BRO was town before, but I have less faith in that read than I did before.
SSK, no clue.
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I lied, I personally wouldn't cry over Pie-lynch or Domo lynch but I might be a little bit more opposed to the Domo lynch. I had them there because Cabd had a strong town-read on them both.In post 3602, MC Maraca wrote:I don't wanna lynch anyone in my town-tiers so Domo is out of the question, but Icouldgo onto SADCabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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I'm not exactly the most hospitable person when it comes to my scum-reads, that's pretty much true.In post 3710, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:@ 3598: Mara, I haven't worked with you because you seemed very unapproachable. You barely engaged me and simply re-posted your case for the lurkers (which you didn't update after my responses). So, I reacted instinctively by trying to work with others as opposed to you. If you do want to work with me or actually try to sort me, I am more than happy to engage you so we can stop this pointless distraction and lynch scum. The "but that is not what you said before" arguments aren't things I can address for you because the statements themselves are accurate. But it isn't scummy to change my viewpoint.
that being said, I don't think engaging with you will do much good. I'm liable to go back down in that spiral if I try to sort you out myself, and Nacho's effort in making sure I stop tunneling town will have all been for naught.
you are more then welcome to talk to me about my null-list though.Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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?In post 3786, Cephrir wrote:Seriosuly though why do you essentially clear both sc and desperado here? Bro is a stretch too.
cabd didn't clear anyone in that list?Cabd: "hell, mc maraca is a two lady hydra of justice"-
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