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Your caution during RVS is noted.In post 19, YuniChikako wrote:I almost voted Slandaar for being so dang impatient, and because I have nothing to do at the moment, but I'll shut up for now.
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Holidays and work.In post 97, Bulbazak wrote:Why so slow to the party, PV?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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OK.
Yeah, after continuing to read, I was somewhat dismayed that the wagon grew so quickly. But then Yuni gave 68. It did not appease my inner suspiciate, so vote remains.In post 103, mastin2 wrote:You put the wagon to L-2. Consider yourself a second italicized name on there.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Yeah, Maxous is your off-the-wagon, meaing you thinking a full HALF of the Yuni voters are scum.In post 109, mastin2 wrote:
Nope! Multiscum doesn't mean "everyone's scum". It just means that there are more scum than normal. With only 19 players, that's pretty damn guaranteed to be three per faction, making six total scum.In post 108, PeregrineV wrote:@Mastin- 105 has way too many townreads for a game that is supposed to be multi-scum.Furthermore, because there's six total scum, I should have ~12 townreads, which is more or less the total you come out with when you look at my post.
Honestly, I think that there's 3-5 scum on the Yunichika wagon now that I think about it (I sincerely doubt both scumreads have the entirety of their teams on there, hilarious as that may be to try ), and that the remaining 1-3 are off it. You're assuming that these numbers are arbitrary, but they're not. You're also assuming that I'm making blind assumptions, but I'm not. Of the [1] voters, the ones that stick out the most to me are Maxous and Matias. Of the Not Voters, they're basically mostly null, but I have ideas on some of them that if true would make them town, ideas I haven't followed through and researched, but which exist all the same.
Anything specific about the 5 scummiest?
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The 3-vote Bulb wagon?In post 110, aptil wrote:I don't understand the Bulb wagon . 1 vote is random . 1 vote is a sheep vote . 1 vote was a vote by other player to try and start a counter-wagon to their own wagon .
@mastin : Why do you think yuni is innocent ?
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Yeah, but that's different. I didn't like the lack of initial RVS vote when it could have been made, but she explained that.In post 115, mastin2 wrote:
(You're still on it, PV. )In post 114, PeregrineV wrote:Do you understand the Yuni wagon, because it seems you do by inference. If you do, please explain it.
But then, her bad reads list in 68 means I keep my vote there.
And I'm town, so my reasons are legit.
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You should vote someone.In post 238, Antihero wrote:
Yiley?In post 236, Garmr wrote:Man this game has come to a standstill.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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You call this coasting in 13 pages over a weekend?In post 307, Dry-fit wrote:Wanna know who's really coasting this game? PeregrineV. But that's kind of always the case.
Gotta love that the only case made against me was Desperado's and he hasn't responded to my criticisms of it at all.
Not hardly.
It's funny that you are calling out Toomai when he is looking at your wagon trying to gain information from it.
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In post 275, ElectricSavages wrote:Votecount 1.10012345678910
Dry - Fit[6]-Desperado, Matias, Yiley, mastin2, T S O, Toomai
Yunichikawowwow [4]- Slandaar, JKLM, PeregrineV, OhGodMyLife
Toomai [2]- Maxous, Dry-fit
JKLM [2]- Bulbazak, Garmr
Bulbazak [1]- ArcAngel9
Desperado [1]- aptil
Maxous [1]- Yunichikawowwow
Not Voting [2]- Antihero, evilpacman18,
With 19 alive, it takes10[/i]votes to lynch.
Deadline is on the 23rd of December 2013 at 10am GMT ((expired on 2013-12-23 10:00:00))
Prodding evilpacman18, OhGodMyLife and ArcAngel9.
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I'm a Zen Buddhist. I don't find scum, they find me.In post 309, Garmr wrote:.My gut churns when Pereginge V is around as I feel like his not hunting and just is here.
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Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?In post 319, evilpacman18 wrote:I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.
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A defense, or a good offense. My wagon sucks because____________. These are the scum on my wagon because ________________. Let's talk about my reads which are ___________________ because _____________________.In post 326, evilpacman18 wrote:
Do you think not having a defense is scummy?In post 320, PeregrineV wrote:
Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?In post 319, evilpacman18 wrote:I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.
Anyway I'm caught up finally.
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Wow, missed it. What post?In post 328, Desperado wrote:
He does have a defense, it's just mindbogglingly stupid (and scummier than no defense at all).In post 326, evilpacman18 wrote:
Do you think not having a defense is scummy?In post 320, PeregrineV wrote:
Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?In post 319, evilpacman18 wrote:I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.
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I asked first.In post 336, mastin2 wrote:
What's YOURS?In post 318, PeregrineV wrote:But for really, what's your opinion on Dry-fit and his wagon?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Just skimmed back through and didn't see it. Post#?In post 342, T S O wrote:What did you think of Matias' claim, Pere?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Hope everything works out.In post 344, ArcAngel9 wrote:Mod, I hate to ask this but its family emergency. My uncle is in hospital and not in very good condition. Please replace me out.
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No, but it doesn't matter to me. Point it out later when it's significant.In post 361, T S O wrote:Oh God, you didn't catch his softclaim?
Trying so hard not to be a dick right now.
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+1In post 394, Toomai wrote:I did and still do think Dry-fit is a good lynch. But I think the deadline's far enough away that we have time to generate additional wagons for analysis later.
But who?
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1. Lack of response to interogative
2. Appeal to Emotion, lack of addressing votes or voters on his wagon ----> (365)In post 308, PeregrineV wrote:
You call this coasting in 13 pages over a weekend?In post 307, Dry-fit wrote:Wanna know who's really coasting this game? PeregrineV. But that's kind of always the case.
Gotta love that the only case made against me was Desperado's and he hasn't responded to my criticisms of it at all.
Not hardly.
It's funny that you are calling out Toomai when he is looking at your wagon trying to gain information from it.
What information have you gained from your wagon?
3. Attack on OhGodMyLife who appears to be calling both Toomai and Dry-fit scummy & attampted redirection towards JKLM (391)In post 320, PeregrineV wrote:
Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?In post 319, evilpacman18 wrote:I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.
Anyway I'm caught up finally.
All in all, a very underwhelming response, as were most of his 10 posts.In post 360, PeregrineV wrote:Hah, site is back up!
I feel like my Yuni vote is delicious, but want more torque on Dry-fit.
Vote: Dry-fit
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Only when he is "Not voting".In post 422, Yiley wrote:Is antihero a double voter?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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7 days absent. Maybe a prod/replace.In post 424, Yiley wrote:Hey let's lynch this not voting fellow he is scummy.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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And your play seems to be throwing your hands up in the air going "What can I do?" when you can question the people voting for you before they decide (like me) that your apathy is more scum-motivated and less town frustration at being misread day1.In post 434, Dry-fit wrote:Again, the only person who's given any king of reason for voting me is Desperado. I've tried to address that with him several times. If you guys want hypocrisy to be some kind of ultimate tell of ultimate scumminess that makes someone confirmed scum, it's your funeral. And mine I suppose. No one else has given any real reasoning. Look at mastin ffs, he just keeps going on about how good the wagon looks.
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In addition, outside of those players voting you, who are you two strongest townreads and why, and who are your tow strongest scumreads and why?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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So, you are claiming less interest in the Dry-fit wagon, and more interest in the JKLM wagon?In post 434, Dry-fit wrote:Uh, I said in my last post I think OGML is town. Did you think OGML's vote was good? And I'm not attempting to redirect to JKLM. I said I needed to look into him, because he's a player with an emerging wagon who's been under my radar. I want to see what hat wagon's about.
I looked at JKLM's iso, and I knew I didn't remember much of anything he's said this game, but I didn't realize just how little he's offered. That said he seems just null, I don't think the case against him is too strong. Garmr you may be right about his meta, but I haven't played with JKLM before and I don't trust meta reads from anyone but myself. Too many people just seem to do it wrong. Also Toomai is on that wagon, so there's that. Still think Toomai is significantly more likely to be scum.
A wagon on town (you) and wagon on null (JKLM)?
Dry - Fit[8]-Desperado, Matias, Yiley, mastin2, T S O, OhGodMyLife, PeregrineV, JKLM
JKLM [5]- Bulbazak, Garmr, Toomai, evilpacman18, Maxous
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Ok, yeah, she is.
Welcome RachMarie!!
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They are not, always. It depends on how it's done.In post 496, Desperado wrote:Why are crappy hammers scummy?
Well, I think a player found Maxous scummy, and said it in the thread. Probably only once, maybe twice at the most. When they realized they couldn't get him lynched, they shut up, because they then figured they would NK him instead.In post 496, Desperado wrote: Do you really think ice-scum announced their Maxous scumreads and then murdered him? That doesn't seem like good multiscum play to me.
Granted, this is only speculation, and maybe it was an Ice member that Maxous called scum instead. But, it's a criteria to look for.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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No, it's more the wall content. He is actually attempting to reach conclusions. Even if they are wrong, I see this as town-Mastin in the trying.In post 636, Bulbazak wrote:
How is Mastin town? Because he can post walls?In post 634, PeregrineV wrote:Mastin is probably town, but@Mastin- focus on finding scum, sort the teams out as it becomes necessary.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Yes, he reached those conclusions on weak information, and then tried to bolster them through some VCA. But, he always does that. The fact is you can see HOW he reached his weak conclusions in the first place.In post 638, Bulbazak wrote:No he hasn't. He already knew what conclusions he wanted to reach, and then made up some BS for each VC so that he could reach them. If you had been paying attention to his posts this game, you should not have been surprised by any of his conclusions.
Think of it as putting the cart before the horse. The horse will push instead of pull, and it's not as efficient, but you'll still get to where you are going in the end.
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In post 672, Toomai wrote:
But isn't it a distinct disadvantage for scum to come into a game advertised and titled as multiball and act like it isn't? At best it makes them stand out; at worst it makes it obvious they're only hunting for one opposing group.In post 669, Slandaar wrote:You are telling me someone suggesting they don't know it is multiball makes them town. I am saying that actually scum wouldn't come into the game acting like they know it is multiball.This is the first non-RVS Desperado vote all game. Explain it.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts
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Not being a smartass, but I thought it was self-evident.In post 675, aptil wrote:
This is a very bad way to answer a question . You are trying to be a smartass here .In post 674, PeregrineV wrote:In post 672, Toomai wrote:
But isn't it a distinct disadvantage for scum to come into a game advertised and titled as multiball and act like it isn't? At best it makes them stand out; at worst it makes it obvious they're only hunting for one opposing group.In post 669, Slandaar wrote:You are telling me someone suggesting they don't know it is multiball makes them town. I am saying that actually scum wouldn't come into the game acting like they know it is multiball.This is the first non-RVS Desperado vote all game. Explain it.
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What posts made you feel like he is scum ? What contents from a post ? Is it that you feel every word of his was scummy ?
Deparado's last post in this game was 5 days 5 hours ago.
Over the course of that time he made 41 posts in 5 other game threads, and 2 non-game threads.
One of those threads is also in New York.
So either he "forgot" about this game over the course of one day, or he's ignoring the thread because he's scum and is hoping to not post.
Of course, there is also other reasons also, which you may now present as to why the above postings have taken place elsewhere but not here.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Not in any way. Clicking on the post shows user's posts they made.In post 682, RachMarie wrote:wait a minute did you posts posts from an ONGOING game Pere
I am still alive but having trouble staying up at the computer due to the superflu.
Trying to catch up in this game and that stood out to me.
DO NOT POST OR LINK TO OR TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES.
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Deparado's last post in this game at the time I posted that was 5 days 5 hours prior.In post 708, YuniChikako wrote:
A better explanation for your vote would be nice.In post 674, PeregrineV wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts
Over the course of that time he made 41 posts in 5 other game threads, and 2 non-game threads.
One of those threads is also in New York.
So either he "forgot" about this game over the course of one day, or he ignored the thread because he's scum and is hoping to not post.
Of course, there are also other reasons, which you may now present as to why the above postings took place elsewhere but not here.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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My reads were kind of off that game, but if we get to the point we can agree on 4+ more players, then sure.In post 710, Bulbazak wrote:@PeregrineV: I've been thinking lately of a FEA block of much towniness.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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scum DeparadoIn post 706, penguin_alien wrote:
Hey people, I should be caught up soon. Let me know if there's anything in particular you want me to address.
scum Yuni
scum Gamerantz
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In the course of addressing the scumminess of the above players, I'm sure I'll learn what Penguin thinks of them.In post 720, Garmr wrote:
Garmantz ????In post 719, PeregrineV wrote:
scum DeparadoIn post 706, penguin_alien wrote:
Hey people, I should be caught up soon. Let me know if there's anything in particular you want me to address.
scum Yuni
scum Gamerantz
Mastins alignment
I am Garmr.
Garmantz is mantisdreamz and I and that's for another ONGOING game.
Also I'm curious why you wrote scum for the first three. Instead of asking PA what she thinks of them can I ask the reason why?
I gave the list so she has the focus she requested in 706.
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my bad.
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You were actually. I thought you were town.In post 861, evilpacman18 wrote:This sucks, I was playing a pretty decent game too.
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I lied- no time.In post 916, PeregrineV wrote:Catchup today, but lots of work, so minimal posting.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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You had me at Rachscum.In post 933, Slandaar wrote:
This makes Rach Firescum just so everyone knows.In post 892, RachMarie wrote: feel pretty good about PA and Slaan being town.
From Firescum perspective when Pacman is confirmed Icescum I look very town because I am not Icescum with Pacman (obviously). Firescum know I am not Firescum (again obviously) hence Firescum will view me as town when they can see I am not Ice which is what has happened here as we get my name lumped in with PA's in her townreads out of nowhere.
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In post 1036, RachMarie wrote:As for Pere his reasoning to vote for me was based on some statements Slaan made early on, sheeping him just on that even though Slaan had not even voted for me just made statements.
So yeah feel pretty good about Aptil and Pere being scum.
Not even sure what this means, but pretty sure that's not the reason you're scum.
But, let's talk about Desp instead. Is he town, ice scum or fire scum?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Is he bussing or voting to kill the other scum?In post 1045, T S O wrote:that's admittedly a good vote.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.