All the ones talking about the possibility of a scum doctor. It hints at knowledge of Toomai lying about his target.In post 973, Desperado wrote: Which ones?
You're right. I miscounted.In post 973, Desperado wrote: And no, TSO put Toomai at L-1 just like Toomai said.
PA is conf. town. If there's one thing you don't want with you in endgame as scum, it's conf. town.In post 974, Desperado wrote:And why on earth would you assume either team would shoot a spent power role?
And you think scum are thinking about endgame right now because...?In post 975, Bulbazak wrote:PA is conf. town. If there's one thing you don't want with you in endgame as scum, it's conf. town.
...no they don't. Prove it?In post 975, Bulbazak wrote:All the ones talking about the possibility of a scum doctor. It hints at knowledge of Toomai lying about his target.
You forgot to mention teams, come on TSO, move itIn post 955, T S O wrote:Slandaar, Toomai, Desperado, RachMarie.
This seems very town to me, its correct too (good reason to vote her), don't lynch him.In post 890, aptil wrote:This is the second time in 3 days Rachmarie is active only when she thinks a lynch has happened . RM oppurtunistic scum for sure .
Oh and Slaan brownie points if you can figure out my concern here with these quotes:In post 978, Slandaar wrote:VOTE: Rach
Its amusing how Toomai was unanimously scumread for his earlyish posting when he was forcing the posts by crumbing.
Nothing?In post 983, RachMarie wrote: Oh and Slaan brownie points if you can figure out my concern here with these quotes:
In post 984, RachMarie wrote:Actually PA is a stronger town read than you are.
lol
They want to win. Planning for endgame as scum at this point you have 2 options: 1.) Kill the other team AND 2.) Kill the conf. town/PRs.In post 976, Desperado wrote:And you think scum are thinking about endgame right now because...?In post 975, Bulbazak wrote:PA is conf. town. If there's one thing you don't want with you in endgame as scum, it's conf. town.
I've considered the possibility, seeing as how we have a Nurse, which would backup the doc, even if it was a scum one. However, with as tumultuous as this game is, it is not a good idea to kill the claimed doctor. We need as much help as we can get, even if it's just for PoE.In post 976, Desperado wrote: You were in 164. Why aren't you as paranoid about this as I am?
Simple logic. The simple fact of assuming Toomai is a scum doc and not a town one must lead you to believe 2 things: 1.) He is Fire scum, since they actually delivered a kill. 2.) He is lying about his target. Why is that a natural conclusion? Because both teams are down to only 2 members each. If Toomai was a fire scum doctor, it would be suicide to claim his actual target, since if he dies, town would easily finish off his team. It is not in his best interest to do so, and claiming a false target introduces WIFOM and has the possibility of maybe getting a mislynch in, while simultaneously protecting his partner. It also has the advantage of buddying up to whoever he claims to have protected, since odds are high that they wouldn't want to kill him.In post 977, Desperado wrote:...no they don't. Prove it?In post 975, Bulbazak wrote:All the ones talking about the possibility of a scum doctor. It hints at knowledge of Toomai lying about his target.
mmmIn post 987, RachMarie wrote: It was that you seemed to lead the lynching party then all of a sudden acted like everyone was being naughty for trying to lynch him based on those two quotes which were not that far from each other, originally there was 3 quotes and the quote plus button messed up and forgot to post the first one when you voted for Toomai earlier.
I have thoughts about this, I need to check some stuff.In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: Simple logic. The simple fact of assuming Toomai is a scum doc and not a town one must lead you to believe 2 things: 1.) He is Fire scum, since they actually delivered a kill. 2.) He is lying about his target. Why is that a natural conclusion? Because both teams are down to only 2 members each. If Toomai was a fire scum doctor, it would be suicide to claim his actual target, since if he dies, town would easily finish off his team. It is not in his best interest to do so, and claiming a false target introduces WIFOM and has the possibility of maybe getting a mislynch in, while simultaneously protecting his partner. It also has the advantage of buddying up to whoever he claims to have protected, since odds are high that they wouldn't want to kill him.
Ergo, if you are claiming that Toomai is a scum doctor, you are also asserting that he is lying about his target, and in that case, there are only 2 people who would know that for sure: The Ice team.
Then why don't you?In post 996, PeregrineV wrote:Back and not much to change this. Would also vote Desp.
Town wouldn't just lynch his target for fear of WIFOM (although probably should). If Toomai were scum it is better to claim legit as then no-one is wiser to Toomai's alignment. Claiming an alternate near enough outs Firescum to Icescum (Toomai has outed himself and his partner to them) which is not good for Firescum's chances to win..In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: Simple logic. The simple fact of assuming Toomai is a scum doc and not a town one must lead you to believe 2 things: 1.) He is Fire scum, since they actually delivered a kill. 2.) He is lying about his target. Why is that a natural conclusion? Because both teams are down to only 2 members each. If Toomai was a fire scum doctor, it would be suicide to claim his actual target, since if he dies, town would easily finish off his team.
Not really, claiming any target produces some form of WIFOM, but, if you believe he would never claim his legit target then there is no WIFOM.In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: It is not in his best interest to do so, and claiming a false target introduces WIFOM
Not likely. Especially if we are to believe he would never claim his actual target.In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: and has the possibility of maybe getting a mislynch in
Continued from above: Simultaneously Not likely.In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: while simultaneously protecting his partner.
But as we have already concluded; the Fire team would be outed to the Ice team; it really isn't beneficial in comparison to the cost.In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: It also has the advantage of buddying up to whoever he claims to have protected, since odds are high that they wouldn't want to kill him.
Fire team also would know. Potentially PR's would also.In post 991, Bulbazak wrote: Ergo, if you are claiming that Toomai is a scum doctor, you are also asserting that he is lying about his target, and in that case, there are only 2 people who would know that for sure: The Ice team.