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Can you give a summary on Bulb-scum please, your ISO had like 53 instances of "bulb"In post 451, emogirl123 wrote:You and ABR are the most scummy votes on my wagon. I want a flip on Bulbazak for information, if scum would lead to the questioning of Maestro and Sotty. Maenara is probably town. Kaboom/NS are null. I scum read Bulbazak more than Garmr, but maybe others disagree.-
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Spoiler: Aegor
Spoiler: emogirl123
Spoiler: The Goodfather
Spoiler: Sotty7
Spoiler: Garmr
Spoiler: OhGoodMyLife
Spoiler: Maenara
Spoiler: Bulbazak
Spoiler: me slot
Spoiler: Maestro
Spoiler: Chevre
Spoiler: Albert B. Rampage
Spoiler: Brian Skies
Spoiler: Tebow
Spoiler: Slandaar
Spoiler: Acidic-TACO
Spoiler: emeraldemon
Spoiler: kabooooom
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wtf? it's a perfectly good post and a perfectly valid inquiryIn post 495, OhGodMyLife wrote:
I'm finding it hard to put into words how much I dislike this post.In post 494, Bulbazak wrote:
This is not a good reason to put someone at L-1. In your own words, how are Chevre's posts scummy?In post 482, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I haven't really followed the last 2 pages and am feeling distant from this game, I don't know why I can't get invested. Chevre's posts are scummy and I'm fine with his lynch. Hopefully we strike gold here and I'll get more motivated.-
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I'd call ABR's presence in this game so far as lazy, for jumping on the largest wagons and not much of anything else. This intrinsic fact, that is, without applying his meta or whatever, should suffice for a scumread, and should be target for scrutiny.In post 498, OhGodMyLife wrote:What exactly constitutes a "good" reason to put someone at L-1 then? And with so little content from Chevre in the first place I wouldn't be surprised if anyone found it difficult to come up with something novel and new about him. That ground has already been covered. Asking for how he's scummy "in your own words" is a trap. Basically there is no good answer to Bulba's query, it seems plain to me that he'll now have a scumread on ABR based on whatever answer he could come up, or his lack of an answer.
Now that this is established, with regard to Chevre, sure, his stance towards emogirl looks awfully scummy at first glance. But after I went back to reread #323, #387, and #428, I can follow the logic, and he just looks more and more town to me.
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In #323, Chevre's jump on the emogirl wagon is not unfounded. In fact, his reasonings in doing so are well-though out and easy to follow. Therefore, him placing the L-1 vote is not scummy.
Calling out emogirl for "defending Garmr, calling Garmr a townread while noting his posts were 'flaily'". Calling out emogirl for doing the same to Meanara.
I agree with the logic of Linking Bulbazak and Garmr to emogirl.
I agree with the logic of info from an emogirl flip will help "define the relationships for many people to [emogirl] with confirmed alignment"
I agree with the logic that with emogirl being dead the attention will be "[focused] on those who aren't really contributing".
In #387, Chevre's unvote on emogirl is not unfounded either. I have felt the same about the matter he mentioned.
I agree with the logic that scum would not have done what emogirl had done. And that is, "when someone has tried to start a counterwagon to that of her own, she has gone against it. First with Maenara and now kabooooom. [He doesn't] see scum doing that".
However, this does not mean I'm dropping my scumread on emogirl yet. I believe she owes me some answers before I make a judgement call. I have stated my inquiries in my catch-up spoiler post.
In the first paragraph of #428, (at this point he is at L-4 with a sudden momentum shift towards the build-up of his wagon), he clarifies his unvote on the emogirl wagon, which was backed up in his #387.
In the second paragraph, he lies down the potential that both emogirl and his lynch will bring about. There is no scum motivation to be found here, only genuine towniness.-
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HOLY SHIT, GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK BECAUSE I'VE JUST REPLACED IN FUCKING 3 DAYS AGO?
MY LONG ASS CATCH UP POST IS INTENTIONALLY SPOILERED SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A FUCKING HUGE WALL OF TEXT THAT MAKES YOU GO "UGHH I'M NOT READING THAT SHIT"
IT'S FUCKING DESIGNED TO BE STRUCTURED AROUND EACH AND EVERY PLAYER IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME AND PRESENTED IN A NICE FORMAT SO YOU CAN VIEW MY THOUGHT ON THE PLAYERS YOU CARE ABOUT IN A CONVENIENT MANNER.-
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I'll give you this one. This is the part where I mentioned his vote is scummy at a first glance.In post 525, Tebow wrote:
1) Unspecified 'she's been scummy' 2) Lynch for information. The first is vague and useless, the second is scummy for all the reasons that have been pointed out previously.Chevre wrote:1/A lot of her actions are suspicious to me, and2.these pages have been so dominated by her and discussion of her that I feel her flip would produce the most fruitful relationship analysis tomorrow.
The focus here isn't on Garmr being flaily. The focus here is the fact that emogirl was defending Garmr because she and Garmr were being chained and attacked by Bulbazak. But she denied doing so, and instead claimed she was defending herself. Chevre called out on that skewed notion.
This is definitely not scummy on emogirl's part. 'Flailing' is not a scumtell. Someone can be town, and can be losing their shit, at which point they aren't worth listening to.Calling out emogirl for "defending Garmr, calling Garmr a townread while noting his posts were 'flaily'". Calling out emogirl for doing the same to Meanara.
You're gonna have to let Chevre answer about this one.
Well, hang on, why? The 'logic' of linking bulbazak and Garmr to emogirl is this: "I do think there is something strange about Garmr and Bulbazak's play, but I don't really know for sure where it is going because it is so greatly linked to emogirl." How is this logic? Vaguely asserts something out of the ordinary about how two people are playing, doesn't say what it is or if it's scummy, and it's apparently somehow 'linked' to emogirl in a way he also doesn't spell out. IE Here's something, I don't know what it is because of something to do with another player.I agree with the logic of Linking Bulbazak and Garmr to emogirl.
How is the desire to lynch for information scummy? especially on day 1? If emogirl flips town, her reads will be treated with more credibility. If emogirl flips scum, we will know bulbazak is full of shit.
Lynch for information, SCUMMY! HOW will it define these relationships? What will he, or you, be able to do with this information?I agree with the logic of info from an emogirl flip will help "define the relationships for many people to [emogirl] with confirmed alignment"
Logically it makes sense, doesn't mean it has to be a good move. It wasn't just to
If this is a problem, why can't you focus on the non-contributors now? "People are focussing on emogirl, this is allowing people to get away with lurking, therefore let's wagon emogirl." LOLNO.I agree with the logic that with emogirl being dead the attention will be "[focused] on those who aren't really contributing".wagonemogirl; his intent is tolynchher outright, so the attention is forced to be focused on the lurkers if Chevre considered her content to be noise.
So it's equally valid to see this as coming from either town or scum.
You having the same feeling doesn't mean you have any good basis for that feeling.In #387, Chevre's unvote on emogirl is not unfounded either. I have felt the same about the matter he mentioned.
Right, fine. Assume you're scum who's been caught piling onto a bad wagon with shit reasons. You realize that if the lynch goes through, you're going to be PE#1 tomorrow. At the same time, you can't just unvote immediately, because it would be nakedly obvious you'd just tried to push the leading wagon over the top, and chickened out when called on it. So instead, you wait until you see something, anything, that a town player might intepret as evidence of that player's town-ness that you can use as an excuse. All the while being careful not to do so in a way that would actually convince anyone else to jump off the wagon.yessirree wrote:I agree with the logic that scum would not have done what emogirl had done. And that is, "when someone has tried to start a counterwagon to that of her own, she has gone against it. First with Maenara and now kabooooom. [He doesn't] see scum doing that".
I mean, it's not impossible a town player would find her townish for that reason. But scum don't tend to do things that town would never ever ever do. They tend to do things that help them achieve their goals, for which they're able to give town-sounding excuses. I mean, that's pretty much scum 101.
It's bad play as town I know. But so many town players have one it in the past it grayed out the boundary.
Read: he keeps his options open with regard to wagoning emogirl in future. As for the potential, literally all lynches have this potential. Any lynch is going to have people voting for it, people opposing it, 'connections' etc. Why are these two lynches special? Here, it seems rather than trying to work out who the best lynch is, he's going "It's day one so whatever" and trying to act all self-sacrificing in the hope people will read that as town. No. If you're town, the very worst thing you can do is give up without a fight for 'information.'In the first paragraph of #428, (at this point he is at L-4 with a sudden momentum shift towards the build-up of his wagon), he clarifies his unvote on the emogirl wagon, which was backed up in his #387.
In the second paragraph, he lies down the potential that both emogirl and his lynch will bring about. There is no scum motivation to be found here, only genuine towniness.-
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while you wait, you owe me thisIn post 527, emogirl123 wrote:
I'm actually waiting on this.In post 510, Chevre wrote:Before I am lynched, what do players want from me other than an attempt at reads? I'll work on that later tonight.
and thisIn post 454, yessiree wrote:
Can you give a summary on Bulb-scum please, your ISO had like 53 instances of "bulb"In post 451, emogirl123 wrote:You and ABR are the most scummy votes on my wagon. I want a flip on Bulbazak for information, if scum would lead to the questioning of Maestro and Sotty. Maenara is probably town. Kaboom/NS are null. I scum read Bulbazak more than Garmr, but maybe others disagree.
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emogirl123.townLean(); // #108 prying info from Garmr with vote noted, this is a better opening than Bulbazak's, my slot's, Slandaar's, Acidic_TACO's, and Nobody_Special's opening so far
set-up spec null
emogirl123.scumLean(); // #131, still voting Garmr while calling Aegor's attack on Garmr discrediting
// #133, honestly, I don't know what to make of this emogirl123 vs. Bulbazak, if emogirl hasn't made #131, it would have been easier for me to judge, but emogirl was STILL voting Garmr when she just suddenly switched to voting Bulbazak. But it's not scummy since, daymn, ASSOCIATION TELL, on page 6, ASSOCIATION TELL ON PAGE FUCKING SIX
Not gonna discard the possibility of scum vs scum yet, but both of them are not too towny-looking at this point
emogirl123.scumLean(); // #136, hmmm... you were on that toxic Garmr wagon until Bulbazak posted #132
emogirl123.scumLean(); // #144, please explain, you were the initial driving force on the Garmr wagon, and you didn't do anything as to stop further momentum from building until Bulbazak questioned you-
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Firstly, you calling out on emogirl being confident should result in a lynch struck me as odd.
you stated you wanted to lynch emogirl due to her overconfidence. I saw this as almost hypocritical since you were still in a process toIn post 293, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm perfectly happy with a lynch on emogirl for the nonce. She seems way too overconfident.
yo do realize the same can be applied to you.In post 121, Albert B. Rampage wrote:[trying] to catch up on this soon.
Apart from this, why is lynching someone because he/she being overconfident is a good scumhunting technique? Why do you dismiss the fact that a pro-town player cannot act with confidence as well?
Secondly, when emogirl was making a stance to defend the Maenara wagon, your series of questions struck me as odd.
In post 299, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Maenara isn't bad. At all. And it isn't a policy lynch. I don't see what you're implying.In post 295, emogirl123 wrote:Maybe my idea of policy lynch differs from others, but lynching someone over a null read because the player is bad is considered a policy lynch in my eyes.In post 302, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If she wrote a bad post, how does that make her wagon a policy lynch...In post 304, Albert B. Rampage wrote:By bad, do you mean scummy or anti-town?
I don't see what you were trying to achievement with this series of question directed at emogirl. Her intentions were clear to me at the start. Could you call the few gems that Maenara posted as good? the underlying intentions and motivations as town? No way. Therefore, can you policy lynch Maenara? Yes you can.In post 306, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So you're saying they are policy lynching her for pushing a policy lynch on you? That doesn't make any sense.
Thirdly, you attacked emogirl in #320 with a loaded language that is seen as spoken with haste.
The assumption here is emogirl is scum with info only scum would know. Therefore she seems to know Maenara is town from a handful of posts. Therefore she is scum with info only scum would know. Therefore she is scummy as hell. Emogirl has stated her reasons to townread Maenara in 261.In post 320, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You act like you have information only scum would know. For example, you seem to know that Manaera is town from a handful of posts. You're scummy as hell.-
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and was Aegor one who was trying to take advantage of the Garmr wagon? read on Aegor?In post 537, emogirl123 wrote:
Just something quick to add, my #131 attack on Aegor happened after #124 which gave me a weak town read on Garmr. I was on the said "toxic wagon" because I started the wagon. I started the wagon because I didn't like Garmr's posts and saw scum motivation behind them. By #124, I see town motivation and changed my play to find player taking advantage of the wagon.In post 533, yessiree wrote:emogirl123.scumLean(); // #131, still voting Garmr while calling Aegor's attack on Garmr discrediting-
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Examples?In post 544, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
emogirl's confidence looks like it comes from a source of information that she has exclusive access to. She shouldn't be able to tell who's town or scum with that level of certainty unless she knows their alignment because she's scum.In post 538, yessiree wrote:Firstly, you calling out on emogirl being confident should result in a lynch struck me as odd.
The only reason emogirl touched on Maenara out of all the other lazy wagon hoppers was because of the absolute SHIT Maenara had mustered up to produce. However, that's not the focus here. The focus here is your line of questioning emogirl contained NO purpose other than the intent to trip her up.
Emogirl was misrepresenting the bandwagon on Manaera as a policy lynch. It was early enough in the game that multiple players had worst content than Manaera and there's no way that it looked like a policy lynch. If emogirl wanted to defend Maenara, to advance her agenda as scum, she would try to use any random argument, whether logical or not.In post 538, yessiree wrote:Secondly, when emogirl was making a stance to defend the Maenara wagon, your series of questions struck me as odd.
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Maenara isn't bad. At all. And it isn't a policy lynch. I don't see what you're implying.In post 295, emogirl123 wrote:Maybe my idea of policy lynch differs from others, but lynching someone over a null read because the player is bad is considered a policy lynch in my eyes.In post 302, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If she wrote a bad post, how does that make her wagon a policy lynch...In post 304, Albert B. Rampage wrote:By bad, do you mean scummy or anti-town?
I don't see what you were trying to achievement with this series of question directed at emogirl. Her intentions were clear to me at the start. Could you call the few gems that Maenara posted as good? the underlying intentions and motivations as town? No way. Therefore, can you policy lynch Maenara? Yes you can.In post 306, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So you're saying they are policy lynching her for pushing a policy lynch on you? That doesn't make any sense.
So my attempt at ironing out my suspicions and working out the discrepancies of our opinions is a terrible line of questioning?
See, this is ironic, because you're attacking me with loaded language and a terrible line of questioning right now.In post 538, yessiree wrote: Thirdly, you attacked emogirl in #320 with a loaded language that is seen as spoken with haste.
It's also interesting to note that this is a none-denial denial reply here. You did not deny that your line of question contained loaded language. amirite?-
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yeah sorry I retract this one. I derped.In post 547, Bulbazak wrote:
You're going to have to explain this one, because me being full of crap after having been proved right doesn't make sense to me.In post 531, yessiree wrote:If emogirl flips scum, we will know bulbazak is full of shit.
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Just to clarify, I'm not trying to defend emogirl. I did not like the way you attacked emogirl; I find it scummy.In post 548, Albert B. Rampage wrote:>Could you call the few gems that Maenara posted as good? the underlying intentions and motivations as town? No way. Therefore, can you policy lynch Maenara? Yes you can.<
This doesn't make any sense. If you think that an underlying intention is scummy, how can you then go and classify that as a policy lynch? You're voting them because you think their posts don't have a town motivation, which is the opposite of a policy lynch. You're defending emogirl using her own logic, which doesn't work, because it sounds like something she pulled out of the grass.
Again, that's not the focus here. The focus here is the fact that you called out on emogirl for treating the potential Maenara's lynch as a policy one AT BEST, when you did not find Maenara scummy. Which is odd, considering her reasoning for treating it as a policy lynch has been presented in 261
Yeah, because apparently you automatically default "townreading people based on meta" to "scum with extra info" WITHOUT context. And that's lazy.>Apart from this, why is lynching someone because he/she being overconfident is a good scumhunting technique?<
This question is loaded. I was voting for emogirl because she looked like she knew more than a VT would. She apparently knows that Maenara is town, based on the few posts you pointed out. I found that scummy. She shouldn't be that confident that Maenara is town, nor should she call her a policy lynch, it's contradictory and something that scum would say.
>Why do you dismiss the fact that a pro-town player cannot act with confidence as well?<
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what opinions of yours are you talking about, because I don't see any?In post 553, Acidic_TACO wrote:After rereading through a bit I finally figured out that my opinions are based on crap...
Not sure what to make of the quick wagons as people just seem to be in the mood to lynch and its too early for me to really see how people play to make sure they aren't scum but just odd people...like Albert.
Also bump was gotten, was dealing with schoolwork.
you claimed you voted Aegor as a RV, I viewed it as jumping on a low-hanging fruit. If it was to reaction test Aegor, I would have viewed as null. In 353 you tried to pass it off as a RV and unvoted seeing it's not gaining any momentum, that's scummy as hell.
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First, please realize that the intent of deliberately refusing to share thought process is scum-motivated. No one's reads are 100% accurate on day 1. Reads change, and become increasingly more solid over time, but only through the grinding and exchange of opinions with people who disagree with you.In post 572, Acidic_TACO wrote:
My opinions in my head? They're my opinions, I'm not sure what you mean by what opinions. If its because I haven't shared them then the answer would be along the lines of second guessing myself. I don't post something I'm not sure 100% unless there's a special circumstance.In post 569, yessiree wrote:
what opinions of yours are you talking about, because I don't see any?In post 553, Acidic_TACO wrote:After rereading through a bit I finally figured out that my opinions are based on crap...
Not sure what to make of the quick wagons as people just seem to be in the mood to lynch and its too early for me to really see how people play to make sure they aren't scum but just odd people...like Albert.
Also bump was gotten, was dealing with schoolwork.
you claimed you voted Aegor as a RV, I viewed it as jumping on a low-hanging fruit. If it was to reaction test Aegor, I would have viewed as null. In 353 you tried to pass it off as a RV and unvoted seeing it's not gaining any momentum, that's scummy as hell.
For starters, opinion on emogirl? opinion on Chevre?
My vote was both a test of reaction and RV due to me not really paying attention to what was going on. I wasn't serious after all. If you look at my reason it was bullshit and ungrounded in reality. The only way it could be considered serious is if I pointed out real evidence that pointed to me he was scum.
I have opinions of everyone but right now they aren't presentable in a list like yours
Like I said I keep them to myself unless I'm sure of them.
emogirl? Leaning town cause of her experience on that poker site. Sites I played in the past are much different then here.
And another reason is because of the wagon that came up around her just didn't smell right.
Chevre? I dunno, the wagon that came up around him was the fastest one I've ever seen, can't say scum did it for a fact because he wasn't really in danger. If he is scum then the wagon might have been made by the scum to let him gain trust or something...I can have really weird ideas...
My plan is to wait til next day unless something comes up because I have a really out there idea and it depends on who survives the night.
Second, leaning town on emogirl because of her outside experiences and the Chevre counter-wagon? That's some bullshit basis for townreading her yo.
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In post 608, Acidic_TACO wrote:
I do have a scum read but its just a hunch right now...I'll work on it and contribute after I get back from my shift at the food bank around ~7pm pacific time.In post 601, yessiree wrote:Acidic_TACO, why don't you do something with your vote, do you really have no scumread you want to pursue, or are you still working out that furball in your head?
Good. I'll probably be too busy playing heartstone but I'll remember to stop by and see if you two can hold true to your promisesIn post 609, emogirl123 wrote:
I'll do this in a bit. Going out again. tl;dr, he chose a easy wagon to hop on (garmr) lines up garmr + emogirl for primary suspects using what was clearly bullshit. gets called out on it by emogirl. continues to spout out nonsense (bulba v tebow) ever since with no contribution to anything else. I'll try to post something tonight. I promise.In post 607, Aegor wrote:Could someone please explain (even like 1-2 sentences with links to posts) why Bulba is scum?-
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In post 610, yessiree wrote:Good. I'll probably be too busy playing heartstone but I'll remember to stop by and see if you two can hold true to your promises
I'm trying to lay blame on ABR for theIn post 611, Zdenek wrote:
Bulbazak and Yessiree? Any others?In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote:the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.Chevrelynch, WTF? Go back and re-read my exchange with ABR and, do tell me (with quotes and shit), which part of the convo did I try to lay blame on him for aChevre lynch. I'm attacking ABR because of his straw man attack onemogirl, not because of his push on Chevre.
Take as much time as you need. Your lies will still be lies.In post 631, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I feel like some players are confusing the issue surrounding the leading wagons as a strategy. I don't appreciate these players muddling the discussion and I will begin pointing fingers very soon.-
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Getting scum vibes on emeraldemon for his recent horripost
The questions are useless as fuck, it's like trying to poke at a boulder with a twig
Do explain, which part of 589 do you find not convincing?
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Whether or notIfind Chevre's wall convincing does not directly affect my read on him due to the following reason.
However, I find it odd that you reinforced your scumread on him just because you find that one little part at the end off. What is your read on slandaar?In post 623, Chevre wrote: I did the walls because I was in danger of being lynched and I wanted town to have as much of my perspective as possible. It isn't really pro-town, or at least not pleasant to do those things, but it was the only way to get my full feeling out there and I tried to make it as easy as possible with the indices.-
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yes that's my stance on Chevre's "brain dump", but I guess your vote is fair.In post 644, emeraldemon wrote:
(1) So Chevre doesn't have to be convincing because there is a disclaimer that it's a brain dump. Fair enough, but the brain dump felt like it could have been borrowed from someone else's brain (again, maybe yours?). I get the biggest town feel when I read someone's post and think "oh shit, you're right!". When I read and think "where have I heard this before?" I don't get that town vibe.In post 642, yessiree wrote:Whether or notIfind Chevre's wall convincing does not directly affect my read on him due to the following reason.
However, I find it odd that you reinforced your scumread on him just because you find that one little part at the end off. What is your read on slandaar?In post 623, Chevre wrote: I did the walls because I was in danger of being lynched and I wanted town to have as much of my perspective as possible. It isn't really pro-town, or at least not pleasant to do those things, but it was the only way to get my full feeling out there and I tried to make it as easy as possible with the indices.
This is interesting now. You comment on Chevre's brain dump just parroting what already have been said. Your "horribad" post was literally a narrative of what have happened.(2) It's not "the one little part at the end". The vote is the most important part of the post. You thought my post was horribad, but you focused in on the vote, why? In some ways the vote is the only thing that matters. He posted three huge walls of catch-up (which you are not calling convincing) and then at the end I still felt like I got "oh yeah I guess I should vote someone".
Let's just take a quick snap.
I can go into details about how your question are useless if you want. But it makes you look like a hypocrite, no?In post 635, emeraldemon wrote: Tebow calls out Nobody Special for voting Chevre in 465, then doesn't like Albert's vote (485). Yessire thinks the Chevre wagon is bad in general, argues with Tebow about it. There's something wierd about Tebow simultaneously pushing for Chevre lynch and being suspicious of people getting on the wagon. Bulbazak also doesn't like Albert's vote (494).-
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Sure, let's take a look:In post 652, emeraldemon wrote:Believe it or not I'm actually open to suggestions for better scumhunting, so if my questions are useless I'd like to know why. The only problem is if you are actually scum and leading me astray intentionally...
Asking about whether or not a replacement had affected someone's read on the slot is bad because, well.... Do you expect to hear the answer "no, this new guy plays exactly like the old guy"?In post 635, emeraldemon wrote:@sotty7
The avatars are fine, I like the xkcd, it's just weird to skim through at first.
So early game it seemed like you had a strongish scumread on maenara, now that zdenek replaced in does that affect your read on that slot?
Asking for a yes/no question should be avoided if you can be asking for a how/why question instead.
[1] If it's not obvious to you at this point then you clearly haven't read the thread.@The Fonz
[1]Are you pushing for a Chevre lynch? [2]Are you trying to make sure you only get the right kind of votes?
[2] Again, a yes/no question, I don't see its purpose either.
Looks like you already knew the answer?@bulbazak
What is your read on Chevre? Are you against the wagon?
This is not as bad, but it can be worded better to pry for a more definitive answer.@Chevre
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I'm waiting for him to explain thisIn post 658, Albert B. Rampage wrote:YS, why are you voting for OGML?
180 turn from Chevre scum to Chevre town, and the reason is apparently, since he thinks Chevre became a mislynch now, people who tried to defend his lynch were trying to lay blame to ABR et al. because "they're scum and know Chevre is town".In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote:Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.
okay, who the hell is Kabs?In post 677, Slandaar wrote:People are just randomly voting me it seems.
Stalled while Kabs is awol.
@people voting Slandaar, & ABR:
Slandaar is another lazy wagon that anyone can easily hop onto. If the reason to lynch him because he is avoiding to provide content, then there are worse ones out there.
Acidic_TACO: "my reads only make sense to me so I'm not sharing them with you huehue"
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If you have the time, can you link me to a game where he's like what you described so we can compare?In post 682, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Because you usually have a trajectory, are more forceful, do less setup speculation and post more.-
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I would assume kaboooomIn post 694, Zdenek wrote:
What are you referring to?In post 693, Slandaar wrote:Kabs is obviously scum btw, you can even look through demons meta game to see he did the exact same thing as scum as kabs did here.-
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If Brain Skies is town then he's played horribly.
Parked his vote on emogirl since page 9, then proceeded to lurk for 10 pages. When the momentum on emogirl wagon died down, came back on page 19 with 3 quote-strip-catch-up-things or whatever the fuck those were like he doesn't give a fuck about nobody, then proceeded to lurk some more. Came back when the emogirl wagon pretty much dispersed, on page 27. Realized emogirl lynch is not happening today,gave up reading. Came back with his thingys again, realized slandaar wagon was gaining traction, moved his vote on Slandaarin the most natural manner possible.
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are you really saying that one little remark he made in one of those catchup quote strips is enough to halt you from scumreading him?In post 749, Zdenek wrote:The thing that gives me pause about lynching Brian is where he defended Slandaar saying that one of Slandaar's posts might be a town post. I think if he's scum, he decided to vote Slaandar in advance of making his most recent catchup posts, mostly because of where he calls Slandaar pure evil for admitting to lurking, but if that's the case, I think he'd have omitted the comment about one of Slaandar's posts being townie to avoid questions about it.-
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This is horrible.In post 781, emeraldemon wrote:Well time is short and it looks like it's either gonna be slandaar or brian skies. I could see either as scum honestly but I think I will
VOTE: Brian Skies
I'm pretty sure 101 was sarcasm, and the "important investigations" was probably just BSing, not trying to fake a breadcrum. So... that doesn't leave much.
I'll need some time to digest the back and forth between Brain and Slandaar
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uhh, hmm... idk really...In post 793, Garmr wrote:
and this is reason to take your vote off brian why?In post 783, yessiree wrote:
This is horrible.In post 781, emeraldemon wrote:Well time is short and it looks like it's either gonna be slandaar or brian skies. I could see either as scum honestly but I think I will
VOTE: Brian Skies
I'm pretty sure 101 was sarcasm, and the "important investigations" was probably just BSing, not trying to fake a breadcrum. So... that doesn't leave much.
I'll need some time to digest the back and forth between Brain and Slandaar
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nah, I don't see your pantsIn post 806, inHimshallibe wrote:
Here's a scum imo.In post 747, yessiree wrote:If Brain Skies is town then he's played horribly.
Parked his vote on emogirl since page 9, then proceeded to lurk for 10 pages. When the momentum on emogirl wagon died down, came back on page 19 with 3 quote-strip-catch-up-things or whatever the fuck those were like he doesn't give a fuck about nobody, then proceeded to lurk some more. Came back when the emogirl wagon pretty much dispersed, on page 27. Realized emogirl lynch is not happening today,gave up reading. Came back with his thingys again, realized slandaar wagon was gaining traction, moved his vote on Slandaarin the most natural manner possible.
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I'm still down for a flash wagon on emeraldemonIn post 781, emeraldemon wrote:Well time is short and it looks like it's either gonna be slandaar or brian skies. I could see either as scum honestly but I think I will
VOTE: Brian Skies
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I was genuinely pissed at Brain Skies, yes I admit it was forced, faked, etc. That's because I had to force myself not to use too many "fuck" and "shit"In post 819, inHimshallibe wrote:I do like I do for notetaking purposes.
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I'll answer this after I take a dumpIn post 831, Garmr wrote:@yessiree
That doesn't explain much so I will ask it again in a more direct way so you can't try and dodge it.In post 808, yessiree wrote:In post 793, Garmr wrote:In post 783, yessiree wrote:
This is horrible.In post 781, emeraldemon wrote:Well time is short and it looks like it's either gonna be slandaar or brian skies. I could see either as scum honestly but I think I will
VOTE: Brian Skies
I'm pretty sure 101 was sarcasm, and the "important investigations" was probably just BSing, not trying to fake a breadcrum. So... that doesn't leave much.
I'll need some time to digest the back and forth between Brain and Slandaar
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and this is reason to take your vote off brian why?
uhh, hmm... idk really...maybe it's because of line above the unvote?
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Emerald's vote had nothing to do with my unvoteIn post 831, Garmr wrote: That doesn't explain much so I will ask it again in a more direct way so you can't try and dodge it.
What in this vote clears Brian of being scum to you?
I was just noting down his horripost, and stating my stance on the brain vs slandaar exchange in one post
I unvoted because "I'll need some time to digest the back and forth between Brain and Slandaar"
Is it clear to you now?In post 783, yessiree wrote:
This is horrible.In post 781, emeraldemon wrote:Well time is short and it looks like it's either gonna be slandaar or brian skies. I could see either as scum honestly but I think I will
VOTE: Brian Skies
I'm pretty sure 101 was sarcasm, and the "important investigations" was probably just BSing, not trying to fake a breadcrum. So... that doesn't leave much.
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I'll need some time to digest the back and forth between Brain and Slandaar
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punctuation, use themIn post 844, Garmr wrote:Want to hop on the brian wagon with me
whuaa...?In post 843, yessiree wrote:Is it clear to you now?
Yes quite but that only leads to more questions like what do you of brian and slandaar now and abrs interactions with it now.
Ahhh
Yes quite,but that only leads to more questions like what do youthinkof brian and slandaar now,and abr's interactions with it now.
I understand how you might have misunderstood my post now.
As for the actually question, if my understanding of it is correct. I don't have a stance on it yet, but I will have one soon, before the deadline. I'm still going through the Slandaar game Albert linked.-
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for two reasons:In post 860, Matias wrote:For what reasons? I will try to explain for my predecessor if possible.
Slandaar, that was not a rhetorical question. Where did the emerald read come from?
1) kept reads to himself and only revealed the nonsense in his mind when prompted to
2) passivity, pressured no one-
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"Looks like it's either A and B getting lynched today, I think either of them might be scum, so I'll hop on one of them."In post 863, emeraldemon wrote:
Not sure what I'm supposed to do with this. Do you want me to guess why you think I'm scummy?In post 783, yessiree wrote:
This is horrible.In post 781, emeraldemon wrote:Well time is short and it looks like it's either gonna be slandaar or brian skies. I could see either as scum honestly but I think I will
VOTE: Brian Skies
I'm pretty sure 101 was sarcasm, and the "important investigations" was probably just BSing, not trying to fake a breadcrum. So... that doesn't leave much.
I'll need some time to digest the back and forth between Brain and Slandaar
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This is scummy because
1) This effectively shakes off any accountability you have in the case of a townflip since your wording deliberately implies you think that they are the only lynch candidates for today.
2) Lining up for future lynches in the case of a townflip
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Why not? define: best lynchIn post 882, The Fonz wrote:
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In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote:Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.
clarify: swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynchIn post 638, yessiree wrote:VOTE: OhGodMyLife
explain your bullshit, you can't just fling shit around then back down-
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quotes or didn't happenIn post 888, OhGodMyLife wrote:
There may have only been two, I'm given to hyperbole and didn't actually go back to read anything at the time I made that post. Regardless, there was enough premature blame pinning for the imminent Chevre flip to trip my sensors.In post 885, yessiree wrote:In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote:Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.
clarify: swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynchIn post 638, yessiree wrote:VOTE: OhGodMyLife
explain your bullshit, you can't just fling shit around then back down-
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dude, the fuck?In post 891, Slandaar wrote:Kabs/Aegor/Maestro
Acidic/Brian/Em
Em/Brian doesn't make much sense but eh, looks good otherwise. Maybe Brian is making up stuff because he wants to grudge vote me that badly and it is actually OGML, quite possible.
I've been giving you a pass because I haven't finished reading the other game, but can you start making sense?