NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

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what up what up what up in the hizzy

vote elyse

choo choo!

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...what?

unvote vote Marquis

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Seriously though, UT's vote on Marquis is really awful.

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bitch please

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I find your lack of vote disturbing.

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^that was about tman not RC

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aaaaaand Marquis is town. town block party!

unvote vote tman

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I don't have to answer shit for you

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and DEMANDING ANSWERS over and over again is uh...

I'm really curious what you're hoping to accomplish other than justification for your shitty vote

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I'm pretty sure he was saying it was an RVS vote?

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hey prozac

I would honestly be willing to lynch any of the noobs tbqh I'm really not into reading their posts my soul hurts

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sir.

your titties are out of control.

calm them.

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holy shit it's f2f all over again

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This game feels really weird.

compared to what, exactly?

and I'm not ridiculing people who vote for me, I'm making fun of your "you better start defending yourself" because it's going in the Dumb Mafia Quotes Hall of Fame

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what other games? it looks like you've only ever played newbie games. and tbqh you're in no position to make meta arguments on that basis.

and if you don't know that answer to that then I'd suggest thinking long and hard about it, because it's obvious

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this Nikanor fellow

I like the cut of his jibe

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SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME GODDAMNlT

okay. you've been actively bad this game. your ISO is so bad it gave me cancer. If I had a vig shot I would use it on you. at this point in the game I don't really care about your alignment I just want you dead because your presence in your slot equates to it being a negative utility role for the town.

is that what you had in mind?

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I actually really liked Elyse's reaction to mollie's vote, so I won't be voting Elyse.
sorry mols.

I find it chivalrous that you like elyse's OMGUS vote

jesus fuck can we lynch this thing already

unsubscribe

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you could always try voting for him. voting sometimes leads to lynches, and lynches on scum make my heart rejoice.

don't you want me to be happy :(:(:(:(

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Innocent Child means mod confirmed. Shut the fuck up with your stupid bullshit.

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(is this how you get mod confirmed? I take it all back if that's how)

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go on

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oh, about nik. I didn't really realize that was a question for me because I never said Nik was town?

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Innocent Child means mod confirmed. Shut the fuck up with your stupid bullshit.

In some games, IC self-activates. Just making sure I'm not a Hidden Innocent Child

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Some of the scum "townreading" me will eventually find a way to conveniently retract their read. So don't worry, not all hope is lost!

yeah anyone who reads you as scum has to be scum, right?

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Some of the scum "townreading" me will eventually find a way to conveniently retract their read. So don't worry, not all hope is lost!

yeah anyone who reads you as scum has to be scum, right?

Mr. Untrod Tripod sir, you're stretching my mouth wide open. Like, my jaw is totally

unhinged

from all the big thick

words

you've been

shoving

down my throat.

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@pisskop why are you suggesting a mis-lynch

RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons,

until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.

This is a sentence.

explain what your point is

mollie what are your thoughts ?

@pisskop what are your thoughts ?

any thoughts ?

do you have any thoughts, or are you content to just feign activity until you eat a vig bullet or some rope?

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so can we just kill off the actively bad players until we have a better playerlist :-/

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so can we just kill off the actively bad players until we have a better playerlist :-/

what is your criteria for bad play?

I ask this cos there are some players that a lot people consider to be "bad players" and I just don't see it. notty is srsly underrated and so is tippy

I mean you consider me to be a "bad player" yeah? (altho this might have changed after meeting me IRL and reading my posts in a different "voice" than the 1 you thought i had).

what is your take on gc so far? for some weird reason they are pushing a lot of the "I should know this person" button cos they seem familiar. mebbe he just reminds me of nacho or some1 else for some strange reason but I know it isn't. I am having a hard time pinning that slot down.

huh? you're not actively bad.

when I say actively bad, I'm not really making a value judgement about Marquis's for example ability to scumhunt, just the fact that he's shitting in the thread instead of playing the game. RC is another good example.

I don't know WHAT the hell to think of GC. I know he's just coming back from a long hiatus so he probably is completely confused about current site meta.

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this is moronic. can we just forgo the next 10 pages of back and forth competing monologues and lynch a VI? I'm willing to go with tman or Zekrom.

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we can still lynch him....

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this is bullshit. we're chasing our tails in circles right now and it's benefiting the scum team.

vote Zekrom

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"very new" is not an alignment

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so you're saying he's null for you right now

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join us on the zekrom wagon mala

we have cookies

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Exactly. He looks like he's posting as if he is very new. Oh my stars, there is no indicated alignment! If I'm not picking up an indicated alignment, why would I be interested in voting him?

and if you're not townreading him, then how about you help lynch him because he's been RIDICULOUSLY useless

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also my my you're a saucy gal GC!

no need to be antagonistic. we can work together!

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okay let's use our ~imaginations~, who would you vote for if not me?

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I'd say there's a good bet that two things described with different words have in some capacity divergent meanings.

did you have a point or had it just been too long since you'd popped in to take up some page real estate

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I'm literally hard with anticipation

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attaboy

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YOUR BUDDYING OFFER HAS BEEN:

ACCEPTED

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mollie if you were doing a reread you would know I said the game went on too many pages, not that it was taking too long. but if you're trying to justify a shitty vote with some blatant misrep then you're right on target

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I've been watching you try to talk yourself into scumreading me and it's bad and dumb

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I had completely forgot that Fish and OGML are in this game. Can we get a good ol fashioned lurker wagon!?!? I'd totally be down for Fish if the Zekrom thing isn't gonna happen.

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have you considered posting some fucking content?

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that's good! you're showing initiative! now identify some of those scum!

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I'm listening, RC! I want you to be town!

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vote for Zekrom and we can really get this wagon rolling

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where is your ut?

wait

everyone gets their own?

I'M NOT UNIQUE?!?!?!?!?!?!

NAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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also with that vote mollie makes a mad dash for the townzone

go mollie go!

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DN very well COULD be scum but can we really swing that lynch? Zekrom seems to be the optimal play here from a reaction standpoint

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ATTENTION EVERYONE

DEATHNOTE HAS CLAIMED SCUM

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

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PS mollie I'm starting to agree with you on Elyse keep pushing her

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Let's do deathnote first since we agree

vote deathnote

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Its scum. time to bus your buddy vroom vroom

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Just vote. Wagon is hella righteous.

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UT, you're an idiot.

That doesn't affect your alignment though

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Its scum. time to bus your buddy vroom vroom

if you think elyse is deathy's buddy then why are you not voting elyse when I am trying to get a wagon on her? I feel less sure about deathy than I do about elyse nika and zekrom.

cuz I'm more confident in my DN read

and I want him to die

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psst epm I'm voting DN right now and was voting zekrom before I wasn't buddying them. did you even read the game?

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psst epm I'm voting DN right now and was voting zekrom before I wasn't buddying them. did you even read the game?

Sorry I must have spaced out, I meant I didn't see you being scum with them because of your pushing both of them.

bull

fuckin

shit

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that is a classic "I'm skimming the game and just throwing out some random reads hoping not to make a splash" mistake

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holy fuck did you SEE that formerfish vote?

DID YOU FUCKING SEE IT?

HE'S NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO TRY TO PARTICIPATE

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no one asked for your claim zekrom good lord

unvote vote formerfish

deathnote can wait tman can wait this shit is scum or awful but either way it needs to die

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sorry nik I was writing another post but I spent so long searching for the perfect reaction gif to his vote that I realized it wasn't worth the cheap thrill of the doublepost

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poro YOU GET ON THIS WAGON RIGHT NOW it is GOING PLACES

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you don't have to follow me.

look at fishy's last post (of his four total this game) and then look me in the eye and tell me that's a town post.

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you don't have to follow me blindly*

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poro plz

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You can all fuck straight the fuck off. This is clearly not my scum game. Do you think that as scum I would be this blatantly scummy? I am unfamiliar with most of this player list, and have no basis for reads. I am going off of the things that some people I do know are saying and reads they are making. The thing that set me off was Z asking someone else to help get the heat off of him. UT why would he be asking you to get heat off of him? How could you even do this at the point in the game we are at, you guys aren't masons.

One-shot vig? Fucking shitty scum fake claim. I do like the way he threw in the word town there though, guess he was worried we might mistake that for a straight out scum claim. So what happens when we don't have a two kill night? You claim to be blocked, or you take credit for a kill and hypothesize that there must have been a block on scum or a protect on town? Good luck with that shit if you guys mislynch me.

look at this shit. I'm not doing a pbpa but holy fuck

he's a newbie. he's quoting his fucking role pm. scum in this scenario say 1-shot vig. newb town quotes their role PM.

also THAT TOO SCUMMY TO BE SCUMMY FALLACY. LOOK AT IT.

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and I'm not going to explain to you why you're caught scum.

ALSO LOOK AT THIS SCUM SHOWING UP AS SOON AS WE ADDRESS HIM

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pshhhhhhhhh you showed up, made a contentless vote and then started with the panic defense as soon as two people voted you for it

eat your rope like a good scum. this wasn't the game for you.

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You can all fuck straight the fuck off. This is clearly not my scum game. Do you think that as scum I would be this blatantly scummy?

the prosecution fucking rests.

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I kinda wish that you'd let it go on longer so we could get more reactions, but I'll take it

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pedit- That is how you describe panic? I think it''s more how I show annoyance at dealing with stupidity.

on the chance that you were town, you may not have a scum PM, but we weren't wrong for scumreading you based on your play. be less annoyed and try playing better in the future.

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maybe it's a function of the games I play but....

oh wait there's a sample role PM in the rules post for this game and it's formatted the way I said it was. loldongs.

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OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO RIGHT OR MAYBE I COULD HAVE JUST REFERENCED THE ONE WE CAN ALL SEE

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If I'm dead can I still vote? That still happens in rural elections right?

is that you Leno? is this your plan for retirement?

you know, it WOULD explain the lurking and sudden burst of activity

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psst if you're town you should give a list of reads

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I really want this to be a scum dayvig killing scum

there's like no way but I really want that to be what happened

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no one asked for your claim zekrom good lord

unvote vote formerfish

deathnote can wait tman can wait this shit is scum or awful but either way it needs to die

holy fuck did you SEE that formerfish vote?

DID YOU FUCKING SEE IT?

HE'S NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO TRY TO PARTICIPATE

I understand now why you were voting me. You are still an idiot.

woah slow down there partner. explain slowly in tiny words because my infantile brain literally cannot comprehend.

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uhhhhh how was it not a town post?

you dropped in after 100~ posts and put a contentless vote on the biggest wagon, after having lurkaderped for pretty much the whole game. it was opportunistic.

your other question was am I scum. and no.

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so let's hear your reads then, hmm?

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what's the rookie mistake here? that I'm not compelled by you DEMANDING ANSWERS to your VERY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS?

I don't know what the fuck Zekrom is angling for and while we're on the subject one of the reasons why I ignored you was because that's pretty blatant mason fishing

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you keep calling me an idiot and yet you haven't really done anything to show why

kinda just looks like you're butthurt that I'm scumreading you bro

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(ps DN if you didn't get it I'm saying you're doing that thing where someone with no credible counterargument attacks the arguer instead of the argument itself)

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He already claimed vig, so he couldn't also be a mason, and that is the only way he would get confirmed town, or that you would know for a fact that I was putting a vote on a town member. And moreso you would have been all over everyone else for voting him. However you just get all over my dick because I didn't give content to back up my vote. News flash, 90% of the votes in this game have been next to naked.

And the rookie mistake is avoiding my questions with your deflection. Why jump all over me for my vote, but give ythan a pass?

Holy balls. Okay I'm going to enter serious mode for a second here. If you're town I really hope that this will help you in the future. If you're scum then maybe it'll help you give off less obvious scumtells.

A. Ythan dropped into the game after a prod and said "oh hey, I guess I should read". he posted a little. then voted for someone (when the wagon had less momentum). this looks null.

You dropped into a game after having lurked for the whole game to put in a vote that had ~literally~ no context on a wagon that was gaining momentum.

They are completely different situations. Please try to understand that.

B. No one, I repeat no one, owes you an answer to any question you ask. It's not deflection, it's ignoring inane questions that appear to take the place of actual content or scumhunting. Further replacing actual content or scumhunting with demands for answers is not town behavior and is frankly really annoying.

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(ps DN if you didn't get it I'm saying you're doing that thing where someone with no credible counterargument attacks the arguer instead of the argument itself)

I thought you knew me better then that. You're an idiot is my way of arguing. Not like you really had anything for me to argue with anyways... hell all the people you are pushing for haven't done anything scummy by definition, they are just making bad plays. Plays that are made all the time by bad players. Not by scummy players.

Stop being an idiot.

I'm an idiot yet you're the one with no stated reads or attempt to play the game outside of "proxying my vote to poro"

uh huh

And how would you like me to scumhunt my reads if they refuse to engage with me and answer questions that would help me sort them? If you engage me and actually talk with me I can get a read on you, it is very hard for me to pick up on scum by their interactions with other people.

not to be a dick, but I'd suggest learning how to form reads based on the game then because that is a ridiculous handicap you're inventing

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Wtf are you talking about no reads?

I have pushed Marq most of the day.

orly

Lost interest in Marq. STFU you're still weird.

also

This game is dumb. What were my reads again?

is not the post of a man who has actual reads. the only think you've done since then is "proxy" your vote to poro

BZZT try again

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if you're so confident in your reads how about you actually own your vote rather than "proxying" it

wait I'll field this one for you they're bullshit

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you can keep quoting that all you want but it won't become a meaningful statement

also GOD DAMMIT YTHAN

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I love that you think the only way you can combat me is by just insulting me. I'll take it as a compliment.

also I'm not going to report it, but I'm pretty sure changing your sig to be related to an ongoing game is no bueno?

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It's whatever, then I wont have to play mafia anymore. I freaking hate this game...

Damnit Des for advertising in the Reckoning Thread.

I am probably just going to change my meta to screw everyone I hate you all because thats how I end up feeling every game I play.

you know, deathnote, I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but you're never going to insult me or intimidate me into townreading you. if you're town, how about you make an argument, or scumhunt, or really do anything other than what you're doing right now, which is posting a whole lot of nothing and insisting upon your own greatness while at the same time trying to adhom the people who are scumreading you.

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imo it's better to let Zekrom live for a night and use his ability. that claim was town as fuck.

Fish is still a specTACular lynch

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prozac, why don't you think it would be worth pursuing another scumread today and revisiting Zekrom tomorrow after he's had a chance to use/prove his 1-shot vig?

also, don't you think that his claim looks like he's quoting a role PM rather than trying to fakeclaim?

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(also we could potentially direct his kill if he's a vig, and that would allow us to get rid of deadweight)

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we're chaining him. no ifs ands or buts.

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I think it's optimal play and I think you're town for suggesting it first

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as in we say "use your PR this way or we lynch the shit out of you"

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prozac, why don't you think it would be worth pursuing another scumread today and revisiting Zekrom tomorrow after he's had a chance to use/prove his 1-shot vig?

also, don't you think that his claim looks like he's quoting a role PM rather than trying to fakeclaim?

Apart from anything else if he is town then I don't trust him to use it well, I mean I don't even know if he has been following the game. What's more I don't trust people to direct his kill at this point. Also through sheer ineptness, I dont trust him to even direct the kill properly even if we do come to an agreement.

Also your second question just brings up a load of WIFOM and outguessing the player/mod that I just can't be assed getting into.

guess what dude, the vast majority of this playerlist is town. our kill pool would be coming from a town perspective so it's just as good as a second lynch. think it through.

also... are you really saying you wouldn't trust him to send "kill: player x" to the mod? really?

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also... are you really saying you wouldn't trust him to send "kill: player x" to the mod? really?

To be honest, yes. I don't trust zekrom to do that and could see him not sending it in or killing whoever he wants.

then.

we.

lynch.

him.

on.

day.

two.

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What if he's blocked?

asking for a friend?

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EPM is a town read because of a game I can't talk about yet. Let's just say gut for the time being. Marquis is town because of We the Purple, and you are town because you are so fucking town.

You could be buddying me, but you wouldn't be doing that if we were both scum

, and I don't see your read on me being that off. I wasn't on Nika with you because I didn't know about it at the time and by the time I got around to reading I kinda started a shitstorm. I think Nika is scum because he just waits for me to post and points a finger and yells scum.

um

...did you just claim scum?

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oh durr PEdits

still though. that's pretty bad.

and your explanation is garbled and isn't making sense to me.

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mala I'd like to direct you to the last page where fish claimed scum

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PV and any other players who are behind

here's the tl;dr

- Zekrom claimed 1-shot vig, we didn't lynch him, we were talking about making him a chained PR for now
- Fish got a couple of votes on him and he flipped the fuck out
- Fish posted this http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5673397 which to me at least looks like it contains a major scum slip

Re-read the game at your own leisure but right now we need to deal with the chained PR and Fish's scumslip

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go ahead. I'm really excited to hear it.

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seriously though dude, I could release an entire album of Fishy's Greatest Scumtells with room left for B sides on the extra disc

your doc claim doesn't excuse any of that and the fact that you were itching to make it isn't good either

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I have but one vote to give, sir, and you already have it

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Limited access atm but you're still set on lynching fish when zekrom is off the table for his claim?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: UT

Can we just lynch you today instead

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The more I think about Fish's claim the more I'm open to the possibility that it's from really frustrated town. Therefore, I have an alternate suggestion:

- let's lynch someone else today (my pick would be DeathNote)
- we pick a kill for zekrom
- fish, if he's telling the truth, protects zekrom

I feel like scum, if they're not dumb and fish is town, have to kill fish tonight if he's alive. this would allow zekrom's kill to go through and we'd have two kills. we could leave zekrom alone for the time being. I'm not going to talk through what all the possibilities would mean because I don't want to do scum's thinking for them, but I think this might be optimal play?

PEdit: no one said Zekrom has a 100% verifiable role. we're just trying to optimize our play here in case his claim is true.

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except for the part where I suggested you as the lynch I'm assuming

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oh also

unvote

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the vig shot wouldn't be for you. if you die I want it to be from eating rope.

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and hell, you might even be town yet. no need to snap kill someone who's actually posting.

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1) UT is playing for a double mislynch? I can see it happening, although Im not altogether sold on scummy UT.

no. I'm trying to optimize our use of claimed town roles.

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Yeah, I'm not buying fish's claim. Seems to me like a hasty road block to stave off his impending lynch.

I am, however perfectly happy with UT's test circle. The WIFOM is not insurmountable, and either way it limits scum options.

I'm gonna finish reading then put together a reads list and a list of who I've played with before.

lets lynch star!

or pisskop that reads was terrible

In 100% agreement with this.

I didn't like that post by sthar at all but I can't quite articulate why.

it reads a *little* bit like distancing but I'm not reading him as scum atm

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a more paranoid man than I would suggest that based on that post you and Nik are scum together

but I am not a paranoid man

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My favored lynch pool today is Marquis and DN. I could mayyyyyybe talked into Nikanor but it's unlikely.

I want Zekrom to shoot GC Marquis or EPM.

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and UT I thought I was a town read for you when did that change

pedit everyone is scum and everyone needs to die

look, it's day 1 and all I have to go on here is reactions. you seemed to be discrediting the chained vig plan, and that's the textbook scum reaction. sorry dude.

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hey I'm still scumreading Fish, I just don't want to lynch him until at least Day 2 because there's a chance he's not lying about the doctor claim

There's no way in hell UT wouldn't assume the presence of a scum roleblocker if he was town.

holy wifom batman no I wouldn't

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he's saying FUCK way too many times for it to be any flavour of sincere.

and you may be right, but this will not be why

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I actually don't play normal games that often. Explain.

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like assuming the scum have at least one non-catatonic member (which might be a stretch in this game? idk), there's no way they're killing formerfish ever.

doctor is a nearly useless role until about halfway through the game, when some power roles are revealed and cetera.
and there's no way we're letting this guy live to halfway through the game.
lynch him today, please and thanks.

does not compute

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no your brainputer is broken

if scum will never kill him and he's not useful until halfway through the game I'm not sure what the issue is here by your logic

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Holy misrep and illogic batman

Yep, I want zekrom to throw a bullet at that

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shut your fucking face, Marquis

you have done literally dick all this game and here you are at the end of day one trying to deflect a bullet away from yourself and discredit one of the few people actually participating because SURPRISE SURPRISE someone noticed you intentionally not posting content. eat your goddamn bullet.

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maybe you should read the first half of that sentence. that was pretending the scum don't have an RB. if they have an RB (and since this is a mafiascum game, they do), fishy is never getting nk'd, if town.

gonna say it one more time

if you actually believed that Fishy was town you wouldn't want to lynch him. town tend to not want to purposefully kill town.

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who is that directed towards?

PEdit: kay, but earlier you seemed to be operating under the assumption that he was the doctor

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and I'm amenable to lynching him (obviously I would hope), just not today

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Re: Formerfish is scummy

Which posts are being used to support this opinion?

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ladies, ladies....

there's enough of me to go around, I assure you

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holy fuck this conversation is bad

look...

we have Marquis, EPM, OGML, and RC doing some flavor of lurking or refusing to play the game. can we please lynch one of them and have Zekrom shoot another? I'll ACCEPT a deathnote lynch too.

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MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE is for a Marquis lynch and an RC vig shot, but I'm open to compromise

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hey hey hey hey

we can talk about star later. I don't think he's the optimal day 1 lynch, is all.

PEdit: why? listen: all Marquis has done all. game. is post smiley faces and PURPOSEFULLY not engage with reads and the game as a whole. he's flaunting his lack of engagement. a. how do you have a read on that? b. why are you willing to let that live?

If I had to describe RC with a word, it would be "DERP". why are you willing to let that live?

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holy buddying batman, sthar's reads list looks like it was pulled from my stated reads in this game!

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holy buddying batman, sthar's reads list looks like it was pulled from my stated reads in this game!

so you think ff is a town VI but don't believe his claim too????

what? no

don't be dumb

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... confirm vote for shot on this ^

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When I flip town will everyone promise to lynch Untrod next if I end up getting shot?

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DN... could it be....

could you really be town?

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I'm not in the vig pool. Nor have I ever been in the vig pool.

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IF YOU WANT ME DEAD LYNCH ME NOW SO THAT WE CAN BE SURE UT IS THE VIG TARGET

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no! stop the walls!

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[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p5683961]that would ut, who wants to keep zekrom around in order to shoot the claimed doc.

just saying[/quote]WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH

quote the post where I said that. I'll wait.

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because I NEVER SAID I WANTED ZEKROM TO SHOOT FISH

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THAT'S SOME MISREP BULLSHIT RIGHT THERE

YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT MOLLIE

DON'T FUCKING LIE ABOUT ME TO MY FACE

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that would ut, who wants to keep zekrom around in order to shoot the claimed doc.

just saying

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do you want me to dig up games with town AND scum raging? see: every fucking game

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I mean, it's absolutely lovely that you're trying to make reads and back them up with reasoning, but that's hilariously and terribly bad

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It's the particular way he's raging ie he's not actually mad he's just putting on a show of it.

Like in the previous sentence, if he was legit pissed he wouldn't have taken the time to note that I was puttting together reads.

He's trying to appease rather than anything else.

I'm not raging. I'm doing this thing, it's called "posting". I'll be doing a lot of it this game.

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your avvy is cute.

I'm sassy

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ok wow

i still don't understand what you guys mean about "chain the vig

I guess asking you to read the game would be asking too much?

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I never said it would clear him. I wanted to give him a chance to use the shot before he dies.

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like, I'm getting really tired of this bullshit. I don't post walls or write in a way that's particularly hard to read. Just read my fucking posts and stop making shit up.

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fuck, I'm arguing with my scumreads again. that's dumb. stop doing that UT.

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also "arguing with scumreads"

how is it a bad thing

i thought i was finally getting something workable from you instead of just raging that i don't want to look at

[block]Marquis[/block]

we're done here.

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can we just pick a fucking lynch and a vig shot and move on with the game. we're not going to uncover new information suddenly at page 45 and all it's doing is allowing scum (see above) to start spreading disinformation about people scumreading them.

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I'll lynch Zekrom day 2. If he's scum, he'll still be scum then.

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fuckin

fine

I don't give a fuck anymore

let's just end this goddamn miserable day

vote Fish

Vigshot to Marquis or RC idgaf

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scum vig

what's a scum vig?

just check fish's iso if you want to see why he's scummy

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he was reading off of his role PM

again, I am TOTALLY WILLING to lynch him tomorrow.

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I don't know if it's normal but is it really so unbelievable when there are scum dayvigs possible?

I'll talk more later, traveling atm

holy fuck.

please never design games.

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unvote vote Marquis

fish or zekrom can happen tomorrow. I want this today.

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I'll do the sthar lynch. I'm not ecstatic about it, but I'll accept it.

unvote, vote sthar

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i suggest we don't lynch sthar8 today, if i'm role-blocked tonight then lynch sthar8 tomorrow ( if a scum role-blocker that player would role-block me )

nooooooooot a great plan

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quick question:

has breadcrumbing EVER convinced anyone to not lynch a player?

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the more he posts the more excited I get about this lynch

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I'm not either prozac. Can we compromise and lynch marquis?

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unvote vote marquis

Actually fuck it

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why mollie?

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how about we make some associative tells when we have actual flips bro

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looks like someone was only self-voting for the purpose of acting!

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I think Sthar and Marquis are both town based on UT's rxn.

regardless of my alignment? or are you still laboring under the delusion that I'm scum?

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christ almighty why the fuck do you people want to leave Marquis alive

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... RC RC RC

I am townreading you, yes.

that being said I was making fun of the fact that you were operating under the assumption that I am scum when you made that "analysis"

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Vigshot to Marquis or RC idgaf

... RC RC RC

I am townreading you, yes.

Makes sense.

(also we could potentially direct his kill if he's a vig, and that would allow us to get rid of deadweight)

it does actually

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...are you 12 years old?

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WELP

that sth8 lynch was terribad. let's find the scum on it.

the push on it at the very beginning was scummy as shit. wasn't mollie's argument that sth8 is too devious as scum to leave alive or some other bullshit meta argument?

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well lookie lookie

two terrible votes by two of my day 1 scumreads

I am SO DOWN for a Marquis lynch

vote Marquis

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mollie pushed that horrible sth8 lynch. she can take a breather for a minute.

talk to me ythan. why not marquis?

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Ythan you know I'm on board with a Zekrom lynch, but help me out here

there's players in the game who are scummy instead of just terribad. when do you want to talk about that instead of doing this NK speculation?

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Ythan plz

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holy fuck

vote Zekrom

if he's town AT LEAST we'll have confirmation that scum has a RB

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let's get the flip first

then if he flips town let's assume we're hearing horses

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Ythan it's gonna break my heart if you turn out to be scum

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holy mother of god RC shut the fuck up

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holy fuck

do you people have to turn in your brains when they get those anime avatars or what? I can't even respond to the logic in that post because there isn't any

/ignore

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of course this is all following my usual pattern of getting into an argument with some stupid dipshit on d2/d3. that dipshit always turns out to be town.

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I gotta believe Cabd is smart enough to not CC at this point as scum

confirm vote etc.

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those sure are some pretty and meaningless colors

your "reads" aren't worth shit to me until we see your flip, and even then

are you planning on giving us reasoning or were you just playing with the color tags?

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I'm not impressed by lots of words or sarcasm. Nor do I believe anything I read in a mafia game unless it's from the mod.

Look, I'm glad you're being proactive but I tend to take a dim view to people who try to Sort The Whole Game. Give us some reasoning with your scum reads or it's all going to be a waste of time. It's a lot harder for scum to discredit reads when they're backed up with reasoning.

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and stop being butthurt because I don't take a CC as the gospel truth before seeing one flip.

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I'm not impressed by lots of words or sarcasm. Nor do I believe anything I read in a mafia game unless it's from the mod.

Look, I'm glad you're being proactive but I tend to take a dim view to people who try to Sort The Whole Game. Give us some reasoning with your scum reads or it's all going to be a waste of time. It's a lot harder for scum to discredit reads when they're backed up with reasoning.

That's fine. I don't think you've played with me much if at all before, but I tend to start with my initial reads, and then spell out reasons and move things up or down once I've power-read instead of merely skimmed it once or twice. I just prefer to post my notes as I go, instead of using a personal QT, etc; because I like feedback from my town reads along the way. I'm not gonna just barf the reads I posted out and then leave them there naked for the rest of the game, don't worry.

do what you do then man

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nah let's let Cabd do his thing first

we got all day

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unvote

no one hammer before Cabd gets done with his in depth analysis plz

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I absolutely want Zekrom to die, but I want to let Cabd do his thing first. It's useful regardless of his alignment tbqh.

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hooooooooooooly fuck

you hear hoofbeats. do you assume horses or zebras?

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i hate this.. maybe i'm just paranoid but as much as i would have liked to just hammer zekrom day 1 i can't bring myself to do it now or even vote for him because cabd's play fits in with scum gambiting to get the mislynch off quickly then excusing it tomorrow as a town gambit. again idek if it's just paranoia but someone else look at gooner pre- and post-zekrom claim and tell me how it makes sense

pedit iso gooner... why did he want to lynch fish over zekrom, when it would have made more sense to directly cc zekrom and get the protective role on him night 1?????

always make the play that has better odds of success. you're arguing for a cute play here instead of a good one.

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point taken

can we let Cabd do his analysis first before delving into the WIFOM pl0x