NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Untrod Tripod]

ok wow

i still don't understand what you guys mean about "chain the vig

I guess asking you to read the game would be asking too much?

[Marquis]

rephrase:

i still don't understand what you mean about "chaining the vig will clean the vig" because it won't

[Untrod Tripod]

I never said it would clear him. I wanted to give him a chance to use the shot before he dies.

[Untrod Tripod]

like, I'm getting really tired of this bullshit. I don't post walls or write in a way that's particularly hard to read. Just read my fucking posts and stop making shit up.

[Untrod Tripod]

fuck, I'm arguing with my scumreads again. that's dumb. stop doing that UT.

[Marquis]

if he's town why would scum even kill him,

ok let's say we don't lynch him and he can shoot tonight.

the most likely scenario is that he hits town. what do we do then? finally lynch him? he's certainly not going to die since he won't help/isn't helping town and scum won't kill him, or if he's scum he'll be allowed free reign under the previous assumption.

i don't even want to outline the other alternatives because they're either too unlikely or bring too many extra variables into the mix. i want zekrom lynched today because the possible night actions and results are too unpredictable. he's not helping the town, and his shot if real is more than likely going to harm it.

and if he's scum as his erratic and purposely confusing posting suggests, all the better. (read his iso - it's either completely trolling, or he blatantly copied and pasted some stuff that somebody else wrote for him. :/)

pedit that's wonderful now let's lynch zekrom before so me other town pr feels like they have to claim at the risk of a lynch or potential zekrom-kill

[Marquis]

also "arguing with scumreads"

how is it a bad thing

i thought i was finally getting something workable from you instead of just raging that i don't want to look at

[Porochaz]

Basically ready to lynch Zek or have him shoot himself and we lynch Nik.

But because I want Nik to hang Im guessing mollie finds him town now...

[Green Crayons]

I'm spoilering to make this not eat screen.

Still happy with my vote.

[Untrod Tripod]

also "arguing with scumreads"

how is it a bad thing

i thought i was finally getting something workable from you instead of just raging that i don't want to look at

[block]Marquis[/block]

we're done here.

[Untrod Tripod]

can we just pick a fucking lynch and a vig shot and move on with the game. we're not going to uncover new information suddenly at page 45 and all it's doing is allowing scum (see above) to start spreading disinformation about people scumreading them.

[Marquis]

hi there!

let's lynch zekrom!

[Untrod Tripod]

I'll lynch Zekrom day 2. If he's scum, he'll still be scum then.

[Nikanor]

i thought we were lynching fishyfish

[Untrod Tripod]

fuckin

fine

I don't give a fuck anymore

let's just end this goddamn miserable day

vote Fish

Vigshot to Marquis or RC idgaf

[Elyse]

Why are we lynching a doctor without a counterclaim on Day 1? That's stupid.

Also v/la until Monday.

[Porochaz]

vote zekrom

the more we extend this day the more Im wondering the point in this whole vig shot deal. I dont trust him to do whats right if he's town, which I have never really felt and I don't see the big advantage of doing it is.

[Marquis]

if he's scum, lynching him today is good, especially if he's a scum vig.

if he's town, we either lose another town unnecessarily (see: ut's entire vig pool probably), or force a town pr to claim at vig-point. i don't believe there's any likelihood he's going to actually hit scum with the way he's being directed right now. even assuming he's town now is a stretch

[Marquis]

fish lynch is dumb. if you're going to assume zekrom is town and "let him use his shot", why not assume fish is town and let him use his doc? i don't see how you could read fish as scummier than zekrom at all even

[Untrod Tripod]

scum vig

what's a scum vig?

just check fish's iso if you want to see why he's scummy

[Marquis]

i'm talking about relative scumminess here. i still get significant townvibes over fish's frustration when zekrom's play is just completely scum

scum vig is possible, meaning scum with a second kill. in fact it might even be likelier than it seems when thinking back to how zekrom felt the need to overemphasize that he's a

town

one-shot vig, even putting the word town in there so awkwardly "one-shot town vig" mostly null but that makes me even more paranoid about the claim.

[Untrod Tripod]

he was reading off of his role PM

again, I am TOTALLY WILLING to lynch him tomorrow.

[sthar8]

2a. zekrom's town targeting scum? what if they have a way to prevent that kill from going through, and what if zekrom loses the 1-shot?

How does that hurt town? Specifically, how does that hurt town more than lynching him now in that scenario?

2b. zekrom's town targeting town? we potentially lose an unrevealed town pr (or force them to claim today before night), and if it's just a vt then we're effectively replacing them with zekrom. i would rather risk lynching zekrom than leaving him with a possible kill that would probably hit town-that's-more-valuable-than-him

If we direct the kill and hit town, it will not be town that's more valuable than him. Granted, Zek might go nuts and shoot an active player, but that's why we're being so explicit about getting his agreement.

2c. zekrom's scum? i still think with his erratic behavior (if scum has daytalk which i think is likely) it could be the result of coaching by partners, or just simple trolling and pretending to be newer than he is. also, if this is multiball or there's an extra scum kill, he can just claim the extra kill like what happened in we the purple, and i feel like people would be too eager to believe it.

If he claims someone else's kill, then he's outed when the kill happens again. If there's only one scumteam and they use the kill to look like his, we just picked the scum nk which is p much bcs here.

3. no matter how this goes i do not want ut deciding the vig shot, and how vocal he's been about it annoys me. i don't remember his exact vig pool except suddenly it had me in it, so no.

That's why we

vote

on it.

(literally ANY TOWN PLAYER is more valuable than him)

Not true. Specifically RC, EPM, and possibly piss are more valuable to the town dead than alive. And zek dies tomorrow or the next day anyway.

scum vig is possible, meaning scum with a second kill.

Can you find me an example of this? In a normal game plz.

@UT- The 'scum vig' thing has me doubting my scumread on marquis. You wanna look over tman's iso with me? I'm also interested in GC and Elyse, but I don't want my bias affecting that so I'd like your thoughts. If you were a dayvig, who would you shoot right now?

There is at least one scum among the people who wagoned me. I'll be looking into t-dog tonight after magic, but this would be way easier if it were a conversation.

mollie? You havent howled for my blood in your last couple of posts. What're you thinking?

[sthar8]

I'm spoilering to make this not eat screen.

Still happy with my vote.

You know what they say about ignorance. Must be especially true for invincible ignorance.

[PeregrineV]

First, you must post the secret town password.

Zuzu's Petals. There. Now an angel got its wings.

I'm only on page 8 and I'm already tired of reading this game. Some of these posts make me sad.

OK, fine you can be town.

Read the first 10 pages and the latest 10 pages. If there is anything important in between then Samuel L. Jackson will instruct you to read those posts.

I take this back since you vanished.

Vote: Marquis