NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Ythan]

Guess who didn't get a PM that this game had started.

[Ythan]

Oh it's Green Crayons.

And hi folks from the meet.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Zekrom25

Thoughts?

[Ythan]

Is your cyberpunk game gonna be good? Would you play in it?

[Ythan]

It doesn't even matter what you say.

/in

[Ythan]

Mollie do you have an alt named Bazinga.

[Ythan]

This is clearly not my scum game.

Let me check my Formerfish sparknotes.

[Ythan]

On Ythan

VOTE: Zekrom25

Thoughts?

Yeah, I think you made this vote to quickly.

No I made it to lynch scum.

[Ythan]

Ythan read A song of fire and ice. Or talk to Mollie.

I've read it plus four sequels and talked to Mollie.

[Ythan]

Fish I have a feeling I'm going to be voting you shortly. Stand by.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Formerfish

[Ythan]

Dayvig Formerfish

Moving on.

[Ythan]

shh no tears only dreams now

[Ythan]

(if you were town you would make reference to your own role pm there)

[Ythan]

Not you UT the scum.

[Ythan]

I think it's twilight tbh.

[Ythan]

Keep reading Mollie you'll get to it.

[Ythan]

I also wish that I was a scum dayvig but it wasn't meant to be.

[Ythan]

Mollie I am town.

[Ythan]

Fish this makes it look like you have not played Mafia before. No disrespect!

[Ythan]

Also fish there's this thing called scumhunting

[Ythan]

You seem to be very frustrated over being caught when you don't understand why you were suspected in the first place.

[Ythan]

Stop bleating now please.

[Ythan]

Mollie he's not scum because of emotions. More has been said on the subject. You're ignoring that why?

[Ythan]

Also Mollie

VOTE: Zekrom25

Thoughts?

VOTE: Formerfish

[Ythan]

Stop bleating now please.

He has a bad attitude and should not be coddled.

[Ythan]

Ythan, answer the fucking question. Or did you just realize that your fake dayvig gambit may have backfired on you?

I don't need to speak to you, you're asking for an faq of how to interact with people in games.

[Ythan]

Or you're trying to breadcrumb some bullshit and nobody cares.

[Ythan]

If you think I don't think Zekrom is scum then you haven't been paying attention. But you're also here so, priorities.

[Ythan]

Yeah I couldn't think of a nice was to put that.

[Ythan]

If you think I don't think Zekrom is scum then you haven't been paying attention. But you're also here so, priorities.

This sentence structure confused me. Are you saying you do think he is scum or you don't think he's scum?

I'm going to skip the mean part and just repeat that he is indeed scum.

[Ythan]

It's day one. He's scum and you independently are scum. More scum, which is why etc.

[Ythan]

He's not telling you what to do, he's telling you that what you're doing is scummy.

[Ythan]

Ythan, don't buddy him. He is just going to drag you down.

"i do what the fuck i want" DeathNote like three posts ago.

[Ythan]

Mollie your vote might not be counted. This one will be!

VOTE: Zekrom25

[Ythan]

VOTE: Formerfish

kill thisss

[Ythan]

The post he quoted and said "wat is this a scum claim."

[Ythan]

Is Fish still alive?

[Ythan]

See the problem? Vote Fish.

[Ythan]

Yep, I think my vote on Fish is now concrete.

Why did you wait so long to post this you weirdo.

[Ythan]

Let's not play this entire game with Formerfish okay?

[Ythan]

What's the vote for?

[Ythan]

hmm....

In the future this is not how to play mafia.

[Ythan]

Ok, you didn't. You said it could be tested. To me tested means that you can figure out one way or the other what his alignment is. I'm saying that any test would be inconclusive because there are too many unknown variables out there.

A test has the potential to confirm Zekrom as town. Anything else and we go off our reads of his in-thread play. This is what I'm advocating.

Explain to me the scenario in which Zekrom becomes confirmed town.

[Ythan]

Formerfish.

[Ythan]

Formerfish.

Rumor has it he claimed doc. Why lynch doc claim day1?

Because he's real scummy. Why leave claimed doc alive day1?

[Ythan]

Cause helping scum kill town when we don't need to doesn't exactly help our wincon.

You should know that you're just a delight.

[Ythan]

hmm....

In the future this is not how to play mafia.

Actively useless as of right here.

[Ythan]

@Ythan do you have a better defense ?

This is the kind of response you get when you choose to post noise.

[Ythan]

I would rather lynch an abjectly terrible slot today than sthar. We have enough of them.

[Ythan]

Anyone on the Sthar wagon explain it please.

[Ythan]

You're not allowed to talk anymore fish.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

Mollie I'm not townreading Star. I'm not lynching him day 1 because he is actually participating over some really awful alternatives we could go ahead and get to.

[Ythan]

ie what deathnote said

[Ythan]

Multiple claimed scum in-thread trumps that.

[Ythan]

I realize that I may not play the game as others would expect me to, because they are holding their own views as gospel, but I am a more than competent player. If you doubt me look at my own games finished and those of Messiah Complex. Sometimes I trip over myself and my wording because I get frustrated that people don't see the things I do, and I feel like I get buried in games this large. I prefer smaller games but really wanted to play in my brothers. I claimed when I did because I didn't see things going any other way and why let it get to deadline and then have to go down a different avenue. I am the doctor. If you are scum reading me you should seriously reevaluate your reads.

I am trying to get my own reads, and most of what I have to go off of is gut at this point. Fuck, anyone who claims to have reads based off much more than that are either scum of delusional.

What part of your play this game would you describe as competent?

[Ythan]

IMPORTANT!

@Zekrom: IF WE GIVE YOU A LIST OF POSSIBLE TARGETS WILL YOU KILL ONE OF THOSE TARGETS?

yes if they are scum i will

Will 100% do so? Even if you don't think any of them are scum?

yes however i'll iso each one to double check each one, so i don't shoot a town by mistake

So what idiot's fault is it that we're not lynching this.

[Ythan]

IMPORTANT!

@Zekrom: IF WE GIVE YOU A LIST OF POSSIBLE TARGETS WILL YOU KILL ONE OF THOSE TARGETS?

yes if they are scum i will

Will 100% do so? Even if you don't think any of them are scum?

yes however i'll iso each one to double check each one, so i don't shoot a town by mistake

That's good to hear.

What are you even doing here you fool.

[Ythan]

How did I end up in this playerlist.

[Ythan]

Hey Formerfish can you tell me who you're voting without checking back?

[Ythan]

I'll eat a baseball if Zekrom is town, is actually a vig, and does something not terrible tonight.

[Ythan]

Full disclosure Sthar does give me the heebie jeebies but we hAVE FORMERFISH TO FRY

[Ythan]

FORMERFISH TO FRY

CAN ANYONE WHO APPRECIATES PUNS PLEASE GET ON THIS

[Ythan]

Well she never said you said you wanted it.

[Ythan]

Vote obvious scum, provide a suitable alternative, or eat rope.

[Ythan]

Hey Formerfish can you tell me who you're voting without checking back?

The same guy who's head you are calling for. Weird that I'm scum for voting a read you share.

The argument you're implying here is outrageous. Truly, truly outrageous. I don't see how a town brain thinks the thoughts you vocalize.

[Ythan]

provide a suitable alternative

Full disclosure Sthar does give me the heebie jeebies

Found one.

How does it feel to know that you have to cut part of a post out when you reply in order for you response to fit? Does it feel bad? It should.

[Ythan]

But seriously GC did you just pop by to say that?

[Ythan]

A suitable alternative is not one that is not as good. GC u r dumb.

[Ythan]

Literally GC walled to make the point that another character "gave me the heebie jeebies" and that I should lynch them instead of scum. And has done shit else lately.

[Ythan]

If you're a kitten why do you live in a fishbowl? Did you eat the fish and move in? What about water?

[Ythan]

Mollie of all the things going on.

[Ythan]

Thought about it. Decided to lynch scum.

[Ythan]

Sthar and Zekrom are scum together. Which one has more votes now...

[Ythan]

Marquis (4) - DeathNote, PeregrineV, Porochaz, Untrod Tripod
Sthar8 (3) - Elyse, Green Crayons, pisskop
Formerfish (3) - Nikanor, Matias, Ythan
Zekrom25 (2) - Formerfish, Marquis
Untrod Tripod (1) - Zekrom25
Elyse (1) - Gooner
RadiantCowbells (1) - RadiantCowbells
Malakittens (1) - pirate mollie

Not Voting (5) - OhGodMyLife, Malakittens, sthar8, evilpacman18, tman2nd

[Ythan]

I'm gut reading Ythan as scum, so I could go for that lynch, but I think there are better targets.

That you would suggest a gut lynch in this game defies my expectations of sentience.

[Ythan]

Yeah not gonna vote Marquis. Sthar's trying to discredit her, and doing a poor job of it, in order to deflect some heat from himself. I believe that this will be a more constructive alternative.

VOTE: Sthar8

[Ythan]

A suitable alternative is not one that is not as good. GC u r dumb.

Willfully obtuse Ythan is willfully obtuse.

-

You

think Formerfish is "obvious scum." (Post 1041.)
-

You

wanted obvious scum (Fish) lynched, or a "suitable alternative." (Post 1041.)
-

I

am saying sthar is scum, and have not subscribed to your Formfish is "obvious scum." At most, Formerfish's play on balance has been scummy, but far from "obvious scum." (Post 709.)
-

I

am saying that because I think sthar is a pretty good scum candidate, and because

you

yourself have acknowledged that sthar gave you the "heebie jeebies," (Post 1032)

I

think that sthar fits under

your

request for a "suitable alternative."

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Literally GC walled to make the point that another character "gave me the heebie jeebies" and that I should lynch them instead of scum. And has done shit else lately.

Is it possible for you to be more bad at being scum?

Guess what nobody cares.

[Ythan]

vote zekrom

the more we extend this day the more Im wondering the point in this whole vig shot deal. I dont trust him to do whats right if he's town, which I have never really felt and I don't see the big advantage of doing it is.

Wait. Why would Town be worried about a vig claim? Why wouldn't you let scum worry about Zek? The way I see it he's either the vig, as he claims, or he is scum and the real vig is [properly] not countering. You know why? Vig's counter claim with a shot in the night. Bottom line; if Zek is scum he is likely killed tonight. If Zek is NOT scum, he is NOT killed tonight and proves his role in the morning.

Am I missing something here?

FoS: Porochaz

It's the weekend and I'm doing a lousy job of catching up but in reading backwards this popped up as crazy.

You are saying that if he is not shot tonight he is confirmed. There is no way you rationally formulated this idea with logic. What then did fuel this accident of a post?

[Ythan]

How does it feel to know that you have to cut part of a post out when you reply in order for you response to fit? Does it feel bad? It should.

Stop it. If he is changing context, you have an argument. If he is making his point more obvious by using fewer words [ie. being concise], you have no argument. I do this ALL THE TIME. In fact, I just did it.

Noted and summarily disregarded. Not relevant to the game, as my post was. Next time just don't.

[Ythan]

All this other shit is why we should just lynch zekrom~

[Ythan]

Three more who wants to be town for a day.

[Ythan]

Acknowledging that your post doesn't look good and predicting people talking shit doesn't make it a better post.

[Ythan]

Oh wonderful the best part again. We have less than two days yeah? I'd say get to the point.

[Ythan]

My understanding is that it is because Marquis had the second most votes.

[Ythan]

By all means prolong it and ensure your death.

[Ythan]

First:

How does it feel to know that you have to cut part of a post out when you reply in order for you response to fit? Does it feel bad? It should.

But seriously GC did you just pop by to say that?

A suitable alternative is not one that is not as good. GC u r dumb.

Literally GC walled to make the point that another character "gave me the heebie jeebies" and that I should lynch them instead of scum. And has done shit else lately.

And then:

<succinct explanation responding to Ythan's repeated bad posting>

Guess what nobody cares.

Heh. I look forward to voting you tomorrow.

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Still happy with my sthar vote.

Exactly as many people care now as did before.

[Ythan]

I want blood what's the holdup.

[Ythan]

I would also enjoy Zekrom dying.

[Ythan]

So how many nights does Zekrom get to not confirm his claim?

VOTE: Zekrom25

[Ythan]

Mollie come back.

Zekrom shut up you suck at this.

[Ythan]

Zekrom remains confirmed scum and the only reason he wasn't lynched yesterday was so that he could prove his claim last night (which he didn't).

[Ythan]

Marquis is not in Zekrom's tier and so I do not want to contribute to the distraction.

[Ythan]

NK speculation

Is this what you think my last post was suggesting?

[Ythan]

19. zekrom25 ---> claimed scum d1

[Ythan]

Because you're clearly so effective as a real town life vigilante.

[Ythan]

UT you don't have to follow me through Formerfish anymore. This is the last one I promise.

[Ythan]

noise

[Ythan]

Does having this in the game any longer seem constructive?

[Ythan]

Zek have you ever listed a read on anyone

[Ythan]

actually i'm probably next to be night killed by the scum

You claimed one shot you genius.

[Ythan]

Ninja'd by that but still

Nothing you have ever said in this game has been consistent with your claim.

[Ythan]

Vote: Untrod Tripod

i find your lack of information disturbing

(and this is your one accusation i could find)

[Ythan]

Like am I dreaming and is this not an actual game of mafia where everyone else (except Zek) has some basic idea of what they're doing?

[Ythan]

Thanks babe who's next choo choo

[Ythan]

holy fuck

vote Zekrom

if he's town AT LEAST we'll have confirmation that scum has a RB

Or a BP but former is prob more likely.

[Ythan]

Or a jailkeeper. Or a redirector. Or a scum doctor!

[Ythan]

I am town.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

How is he confirmed?

Let me put this question off until tomorrow.

[Ythan]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY

[Ythan]

How is he confirmed?

Let me put this question off until tomorrow.

I can go ahead and get to this early if you like Tman.

[Ythan]

So why not just shoot the fake-claimed vig?

[Ythan]

Can we get this done before he has an opportunity to contribute to the thread again?

I mean that's your response to a counter claim? Do you want to pretend to be town a little bit?

[Ythan]

So why not just shoot the fake-claimed vig?

Reading is tech, dude.

I saw the two important words.

[Ythan]

Congrats on not getting a third day to make up for being the worst, zek. See you next time I don't screen a playerlist.

[Ythan]

Zekrom makes everyone on this playerlist stupider every time he posts can anyone not voting where they need to be please get the picture.

[Ythan]

Wow what a useless fuck. Expect a likely ban.

[Ythan]

Congrats on not getting a third day to make up for being the worst, zek. See you next time I don't screen a playerlist.

each game i play different so i become too predictable

You can check off playing like shit and running away.

[Ythan]

those sure are some pretty and meaningless colors

your "reads" aren't worth shit to me until we see your flip, and even then

are you planning on giving us reasoning or were you just playing with the color tags?

So this is a replacement who dropped in to cc vig and secure our lynch for the day?

[Ythan]

To what end?

[Ythan]

In the mean time let's all quick lynch new and improved

actual

confirmed scum.

[Ythan]

Because everyone reads what the dead guy says and adjusts their reads accordingly.

[Ythan]

Note, I am resigned to waiting and only complaining.

[Ythan]

So don't hammer.

Speak now or provide a reason for not doing so.

[Ythan]

also I trust you about as far as I can throw you

So he's fake-counter-claiming, do you think?

[Ythan]

ok

[Ythan]

You're not voting as you should be and your reasoning for it is poor.

[Ythan]

You.

[Ythan]

It's a game and I'm playing it as a game. If your response to what I say is just going to be "it's a game don't be serious" then I'll see you tomorrow, Mollie.

[Ythan]

Mollie's just reading along with the counterclaim and is still

self voting

iirc. I said that's weird and she got defensive.

Was that hard?

[Ythan]

UNVOTE:

Actually should have read the day though...

I'm having paranoid thoughts about despy putting in double 1-shot vigs. From what I've seen zek's level of shitness doesn't actually correlate to his alignment, so I'm not convinced by yesterday.

serious post

[Ythan]

Mollie's just reading along with the counterclaim and is still

self voting

iirc. I said that's weird and she got defensive.

Was that hard?

that isn't what happened you lying prick I was kidding with you cos I think the question was incredibly dumb

Realize I'm not sitting next to you. Your posting is weird.

[Ythan]

ok

why am i'm a policy lynch for my chosen target ?

Do you speak English?

[Ythan]

Zekrom is a lame Pokémon.

[Ythan]

If it's bussing we still lynched scum.

[Ythan]

Mollie in what world am I the one who's acting weird between the two of us.

[Ythan]

Green Crayons I'm developing a very poor impression of your intelligence.

[Ythan]

VOTE: serrapaladin

[Ythan]

OGML + serrapaladin's posts are why.

[Ythan]

I really don't remember much except I wanted to do this.

VOTE: Ythan

I need to do some sort of reread.

Clearly.

[Ythan]

Fucking cat somehow found the big bad SUBMIT button. AGH, annoying.

[Ythan]

This is dragging.

[Ythan]

Maybe I will vote Nikanor.

[Ythan]

Man Serra is so scummy though.

[Ythan]

bangingmmyheadonmydesk.gif

[Ythan]

Not posting is better than posting garbage.

[Ythan]

Alternatively

[Ythan]

Excuse me but you're tman2nd. Don't lose perspective.

[Ythan]

Don't care no more.

VOTE: Nikanor

That's fine.

[Ythan]

Said it in the selfsame post wherein I voted him.

[Ythan]

I'm not getting lynched, I'm town. Focus on something with a realistic possibility for this day as this game is grinding to a standstill.

[Ythan]

I see no point in continuing to respond.

[Ythan]

Yeah this feels better.

VOTE: Malakittens

[Ythan]

Pretty satisfied with claimed scumread from crayons and tman.

[Ythan]

VOTE: serrapaladin

[Ythan]

Nika looks incredibly bad for leaking daytalk knowledge. I think that means mala isn't scum, at least not with Nika. Further, if mala is a scum-encryptor, I wouldn't expect her to also enable daytalk for other QT's, so that'd be a strange thing for her to add.

I'd be more comfortable with this for today:
VOTE: Nikanor

Serra or Nikanor?

/flips coin

VOTE: Nikanor

Good job player of this game.

[Ythan]

Maybe I will vote Nikanor.

[Ythan]

Man Serra is so scummy though.

[Ythan]

Couldn't say.

[Ythan]

Down with Serra white's for scrubs.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Nikanor

[Ythan]

Fear not, there is no possible universe in which Serra makes it to endgame.

[Ythan]

Nik has more votes though, you shouldn't have lollygagged.

[Ythan]

VOTE: serrapaladin

[Ythan]

Uh really UT?

[Ythan]

Happy Scumday notscience!

[Ythan]

Wow I suddenly get the rc hate.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Yates

although Marquis has actually somewhat managed to make me question my townread on her...

Explain the thought process behind this post in detail.

[Ythan]

DeathNote, my dude.

Vote Serra.

[Ythan]

DeathNote, my dude.

Vote Serra.

Is serra really that good of a lynch? What makes him any better then say... RC or Tman?

Or Yates even...

Hell, most of the player list is just as bad as Serra if not worse. What in particular did he do to appear scummy? I assume it is a relational tell but I don't remember seeing it.

HE'S AT L-1 AND WE NEED TO LYNCH SOME SCUM

[Ythan]

Yeah DN are you really in a place in this game right now where you see Serra at -1 and try to derail?

[Ythan]

DN/NS buddies.

[Ythan]

No tman can't count and I wasn't gonna say anything. One more vote!

[Ythan]

DeathNote, my dude.

Vote Serra.

Is serra really that good of a lynch? What makes him any better then say... RC or Tman?

Or Yates even...

Hell, most of the player list is just as bad as Serra if not worse. What in particular did he do to appear scummy? I assume it is a relational tell but I don't remember seeing it.

HE KEEPS ESCAPING THE NOOSE AND HE'S HAD A GRAND TOTAL OF ZERO GOOD POSTS.

Stop dismantling the wagon and hop on. That goes for everyone.

You're voting pisskop.

[Ythan]

L-1

[Ythan]

For real this time.

[Ythan]

Want that town cred DN was reaching for?

[Ythan]

Marquis what the fuck do you think you're doing?

[Ythan]

I'm trying to browbeat her, give me a moment.

[Ythan]

Great job slowing down a good lynch for no good reason Mollie.

[Ythan]

Mollie what the fuck are you doing.

[Ythan]

so why is notty so special? do you have a town read on him?

Is this seriously your response to you derailing a Serra lynch at L-1? That's cheeky.

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

Yates might be scum. I've probably been a bit tunnely on him, but my gut says he's scum. notty looks like a good candidate for scum, too. Also, tman and maybe Ythan and Elyse.

Name a reason quick other than I want you dead you flailing scumfuck, are you even reading the game?

[Ythan]

I just ctrl+f'd myself in your iso and every other time you have said my name is calling me town. You flailing scumfuck.

[Ythan]

Can someone prove they're not completely stupid and hammer this.

[Ythan]

And your last content was five years ago. Self-vote if you have self-respect plz.

[Ythan]

Your defense for "you've only ever called me town" being "yeah but I haven't even mentioned you in a month" is pants on head retarded.

[Ythan]

MOLLIE

[Ythan]

Mollie trying really hard for Serra to not be/flip scum.

[Ythan]

Mollie I can't imagine a reasonable and town perspective from which you would make, not only the posts you have made thus far, but particularly these right here at this stage of this day of this game with this wagon.

[Ythan]

This is because you're certain I'm scum and mollie couldn't possibly have doubt?

You don't get to talk.

Lurkers, town points here for the taking.

[Ythan]

Everyone who isn't on this lynch I better see trudging back to the newbie queue when the game ends.

[Ythan]

And Serra would be on all of these lists if he were still alive. :3

[Ythan]

Serra had to die, today or soon. I could have fake dayvigged him but it probably wouldn't have helped.

[Ythan]

We could wait for Mollie to 'sort everyone out' with nebulous meta or we could read this thread and play mafia and hunt scum.

[Ythan]

This game is badly afflicted with stall and needs a little death.

[Ythan]

...

Moot point I got my target lynched.