NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

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Lolz so you are telling me you didn't see the link? Like lol it is so obvious...

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Alina I actually havent expalined anything about reinoe. The thing is idk myself why I scumread him. More of a feeling right now. gotta do iso;s ugh

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Oka you are plain dumb. Pls give one solid argument on everyone on that list. Anyone at all.

Also I see Titus being a viable lynch today too. Something with the "Elyse is scum" doesn't stay well with me.

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Actually I feel like royal is town here

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Actually I feel like doing this:

VOTE: Titus

Titus has been shit all game. Basically shitty reasons, tried to lynch and so much more. I have played with town Titus one and I Titus then is nothing like Titus now. For example she called me at one point of the game obv. town and at other she voted me. Nonsense like that.

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Alina do you wanna join :3

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Oh and yesterday's jumping between Aegor and texcat makes me think texcat is town.

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Texcat gets wagon-ed. Texcat claim VT. People jump off texcat, go to Aegor. Aegor claims bd. People jump of Aegor and suddenly they jump back on texcat. Like every single person voted texcat at least once. Texcat was a wagon that never dissolved from the start of it, unlike other wagons. I don't think that his if he was scum scum buddies would have bussed him so hard.

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Titus is not town lolol

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It's strange tho how no of the claimed nb members get killed.

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I dont think titus is town

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I was on aegor's wagon till he claimed.


And you know that. My question is why aren't you dead.

Obviously scum didn't think I was a threat to them

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Mar why are you voting Aero?

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Ugh going to do a reads list cus I feel confused now.

Titus - scum/town
zMuffinMan - pure null/ have to iso
Majiffy - town
PeregrineV - null/ have to iso
Reinoe - bad feeling here
alina - um probably town/ needs little iso
mirhawk - thinking town
T S O - dead ; wake update your fukin list
AERONAUT - thinking town; still being kinda doubtful
notscience - thinking town
Shaddowez - thinking town
RoyalApe - thinking town
tn5421 - thinking town
gameplay506 - town
Marquis - thinking town
texcat - thinking town
Psyche - nullscum
OkaPoka - VI/scum
Elyse -

wake update your fukin list!!!

Josh_B- thinking town

So some self notes and sum up:
Lynch list right now:
Titus, pere, reinoe ,oka, Psyche and maybe Muffin.
Have to iso: Muffin, pere, psyche and maybe Alina

Also lets look at the Aero wagon again:

Aeronaut (8): Shaddowez,

Elyse

, texcat,

T S O

, Psyche, notscience, Majiffy, Mirhawk

With this and my reads it leaves only Psyche out. So if Psyche ( maybe NS) isn't scum then it's Aero. And

VOTE: Psyche

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I think both Royal and tex are town. Royals there was only 1 link in the pm seems genuined to me. And the jumps on texcat yesterday gurantee scum on his wagon. I don't trust the shitty tex wagon. Brb gonna see who was on it.

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texcat (L1):

Aegor

, reinoe, Mirhawk, tn5421, Marquis, Alina, OkaPoka,

Elyse

,

T S O

, Psyche

3 town on this wagon. Makes it easier. Gonna see how reinoe, tn, oka and Psyche jumped on. Again psyche is on this wagon

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VOTE: texcat

One.

VOTE: tex

Two.

Alright, since I'd rather see Aero lynched D2 than D1, I'm pretty sure I know where I want my vote to lie:

VOTE: notscience

He is posting a

lot

(he has almost 250 posts), but is posting almost no content. That's just about 10 pages of worthless nonsense. A good portion of his posts are one liners, and a decent number of them are just emoticons (which he admits in Post #1591). He's trying to appear active in the game without doing much, and his votes have either been purely sheeping or on the Aero wagon. His sheep vote is even on someone he believes to be town just to get help lynching someone he believes to be scum on another day, which if he is town is against wincon.

His first dozen posts are useless, randomly reading people as town for BS reasons. I understand this is RVS, but just adds in to what becomes random posting for no reason.
Post #231 - Naked vote on tree
A bunch more posts of absolutely no content, except to admit he's just sheeping Majiffy
Posts Post #715 - Post #721 have slightly useful info as they provide his reads on a few people, but with no content to back them up.
More useless posts, and then moved his vote back to Tree, who he admittedly thinks is town, just to get Majiffy to help get a lynch on D2.

I told you I have my own opinions

None of which have been thoroughly expressed as of yet.

Yes shit

I'm about to explain why my reads are better than everyone rlses

I mean give a readslist

(I really mean the former)

Readslist finally came almost 100 posts later with no evidence to back up his reads on most people.

Post #1140 actually includes some content and reasoning, but it's the first in over 100 posts to really do so, and is also after the Aero wagon was already rolling.
Post #1253 has some more content against Aero. I'm still of the Aero is most likely scum mindset, so this may actually seem to be more meaningful than it actually is because of that.

Basically nothing but fluff posts since that.

I agree with a large portion of this post. (as its perfectly fine to bs for bs reasons in rvs)
Texcat just scumslipped though, so I'll revisit this d2.

I have struggled reading all of the posts and I believe Titus when she says (over and over and over again) that she

knows

that Aero is going to flip scum. If I find out that she lied about knowing, my next vote will be easy.

VOTE: Aeronaut

Are we just reeling in the scum or what?

I have struggled reading all of the posts and I believe Titus when she says (over and over and over again) that she

knows

that Aero is going to flip scum. If I find out that she lied about knowing, my next vote will be easy.

VOTE: Aeronaut

The above post is really fucking scummy.

Phone post.

I agree with this. People use

know

all the time in mafia, especially when it's based on gut. Considering it's D1 and the setup said it was a daystart, unless he's assuming Titus has a day role there's no way for her to absolutely

know

.

VOTE: Texcat

K marquis

it's your funeral

Tree is Marquis?
Oh fucking shit.

I have other scumreads but I do not know they are scum.

wat
Titus.
No.

Three.

vote texcat

oka is obvscum but whatever

Four.

Now who is the scummiest?

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Reinoe's posts conserning tex before voting him:

I have struggled reading all of the posts and I believe Titus when she says (over and over and over again) that she

knows

that Aero is going to flip scum. If I find out that she lied about knowing, my next vote will be easy.

VOTE: Aeronaut

The above post is really fucking scummy.

Phone post.

Is anyone townreading texcat?

Oka's posts concerning tex before voting tex:

None.
But let me give ya a hint. Go to his iso, press ctrl f and write texcat. Now see where he ranks tex in his scum/lynch list. Now think.

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Actually reinoe's posts are the best out of the 4. I give him a pass for now. Now guys who is the worst out of the 3>
Who was on every single wagon so far

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Ok tn isn't as nearly as bad as Oka or Psyche. Now Oka or Psyche. I am thinking Psyche.

Pedit: Titus why should I sheep you?

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Oh I get what happened.

VOTE: Aero

Tomorrow is Psyche. This guy is scum.

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Josh isn't a strong town player at all and even less a conf. town. Stop being shitty.

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Also guys Psyche has to go tomorrow.

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Ok liking Titus now. And I agree with the list completely.
Nice to see ya Titusss ahh memories

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Um tex I think he has 5 votes so far, But go check !!

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I am afraid of Wake.

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Wake you should have read this like:

To my dear mod Wake ( <3),

please update your kawaii "Alive players" list ( if you feel like doing so). If not, just leave it for another day. It's not a problem!

Sincerely yours,
gameplay!

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tex you can join the wagon

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Wake, I am sorry to disturb you but there are 18 players alive. Fix it if you'd like. Thank you !

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18 player=10 to lynch

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Oka lynch all lurkers isnt happening. Also there are other players way more scummier than Royal. So no.

Shadow pls. Hiw stupid would it be for mescum to say Aero claimed in the nb if he didnt when there are 2 more players with us. Just lol

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And psyche dies tomorrow.

Oka protect Titus.

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Lolz

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Is Me So Therefore Confirmed Town
(Nobody but me)

Leaning Town
Mirhawk
Aegor
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Josh_B
tree (slight newbtown)

Null
Titus
Psyche
farside22
Alina
PeregrineV
T S O
Shaddowez
RoyalApe


Leaning Scum
Majiffy
tn5421
Elyse
Reinoe

Lynch Pool
notscience
OkaPoka
Texcat

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I am comparing things in the nb and here. And I am not feeling good about Mirhawk. Oh and oka is clear.

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Ok so compare what he says here about Mir to what he says about mir in the nb:

Here:

Leaning Town
Mirhawk

Mirhawk started off pretty lurky, but has given some good points on Oka Poka and Majiffy. He is also listening to logic quite a bit more than the rest of us, when he changed his vote because Psyche had given him some actual good points. This struck me as really townie to me, because he's listening to the town instead of having his own agenda.

In the nb:

Aero
08-25-2014
02:54 PM ET (US)
Eh. It's more because I actually think Oka is probably like newscum. Not to mention, nobody would follow us into Mirhawk.
~
Aero
08-25-2014
12:45 PM ET (US)
I really don't think he is. I do want to see his reaction to that though.I also just spent the last two pages saying I thought he was town, so if I just 180 they'll just lynch me.
80
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Gameplay
08-25-2014
12:27 PM ET (US)
Aero sheep me on Mir. Time to kick scum.
79
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Aero
08-25-2014
11:41 AM ET (US)
I'm actually starting to not feel good about Mirhawk at all. Tn, does Mirhawk seem like he's playing different from NY175?

The nb thing is 2 days after the thing in thread. It doesn't feel right to me.

Not sure tho. I will do more during the night.

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Also Aero has been whining about Psyche several times but never actually placed a vote on him.

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Ye agreeing ok tex

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I still dont think royal is scum. I feel like Mir, Pscyhe would be way better lynches

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Cus so.

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So why are we in twilight?

Aero what have you done :/

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Ok I am already the slave master of my neighborhood.

Royal shouldn't be lynched. Lynching a lurker is a shitty exuse to lynch ( waste a lynch).

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Royal is not scum imo. Not joining this wagon.

Psyche/Pere/Mir+ are the candidates

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I have one question for Titus. Titus why aren't you investigating your main suspects? N1 you investigated me instead of Aero, who you pushed all day. N2 you investigated reinoe instead of Psyche ( who you wanted to lynch mainly). Now there is something seriously wrong with your night actions.

Secondly I think we shoul look into the SK's kills. Texcat today proves that the SK is someone who suspected tex. The first person who comes to mind isarquis right now. But I have to read some more on that.

Thirdly I see shadow as town. His reactions and posts vs oka are just super town. On the other side oka is odd. Same thing with titus - his night actions are really messed up.

Right now I am suspcious of Titus. The way she sounded sure on Aero scum and the odd night actions are making me feel like something is off there. In the lynch list are also Pere, Payche, Mir and maybe oka.

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Ns looks town too.

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My neighborhood is me and my slaves Tn and Royal. Its my neighborhood!

Having a strong townread on Royal. Also what happened with the people deadset on Royal yesterday? Why no votes on him today?
Not sure about tn

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But Psyche is scum tho. I will try to figure out some other today.

VOTE: Psyche

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Wait who cces cop?

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Oka you seem like a VI.

I still want more votes on Psyche. I am pretty sure Mar was joking on the masons part.

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Shadow really is town.

On the other side I dont believe the mason claim. Psyche die

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Leaning Scum

Majiffy
tn5421

Elyse

Reinoe

... ... ...

============ Scum Lean ==================

Reinoe

is ... I don't even know what he is. Drunk is what he is... or was. He started out this game all Village Idiotic, but suddenly he's up and at 'em, suddenly ready to lynch scum. What the hell? Did he come into this game having decided to play up the VI card, but then when he realized that it wouldn't work, switched over to down-to-business Reinoe? It reminds me of his scumgame in NY175, honestly.

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I ragequite here because of a mentally challenged Sudowoodo. Sigh... I'll finish tomorrow I guess.

one of majiffy/tn is prob scum imo

This. And I think its tn.

Basically look at their posts today. Nothing of use. Also something that rang my bells before. When Aero claimed in the nb, TN totally ignored it. I mean they never mentioned it once, nor in thread nor in the nb. Instead of defending Aero it seemed like they distanced themselves from him. It just occured to me lol.

VOTE: Tn
Ok join me guys. I am now more certain on this. Psyche needs to explain the whole mason shit tho.

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Is it impossible?
I dont think its Maji tho.

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So basically you scumread Royal who is in the nb but you say there cant be 2 scum in there?
Also Oka is town.

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Wake is like evilish. He could do such thing

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Oka really gives me a feeling of VI. he doesnt make much sense being scum with Aero. The doc claim combined with the macho thing. His genuine imo attempts to figure the game out and make plans.
Ye

Pedit:Oka drop this shit.
But things like this make me feel town. I myself said things like this when I was pressured as town pr.

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Ok I like pere dead

VOTE: Pere

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I already outed it

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Ok Psyche/Mar its time to clear this shit out. Are you masons? Stop dodging it and answer already. If you are town masons, scum know already by the way you softclained. But town needs to know whether it was a joke or now because you are confusing the town now, not the scum.

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Where???

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Havent read several pages. Not intending to do so.

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Omg I havent read like 10 pages so far. Omg someone sum up the mostbimportant things

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ok I see we are voting Mir

VOTE: Mirhawk

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I dont like MIR and I see people voting him. Thats why i vote him

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I am super ok with tn
Too

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Ok I didnt read the last day. But ill read today. So
VOTE: Majiffy
As we already said one of tn and Maji is scum. Tn died its maji

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I think sky is town. What are the arguments on him ( quote, post or give post number)

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Reinoe can you answer me?

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Ye oka as far as I remember you had 3 shots. Who did you protect this night?

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Nobody is blaming him. I just want to hear his explanation.

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As I already said I didnt read last day. Thus I would like to kbow your arguments for those two - you can write some, quote them or give post/s number.

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Reinoe those reasons arent bad.

Also Titus I will mourn your dead
I will always remember you!

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Actually the two things I agree with you on are the Mirhawk thing and the TN vote.

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Actually look at aero's lynch wagon. Only 2 people arent co firmed/semi - confirmed/ presumably town due to claims:
Alina and Mirhawk. I think one of those is scum. Thoughts on Alina?

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Actually I think I am going to vote Maji, Alina or Mir. Leaving my vote on Maji but I am seriously concidering a Mir vote for the things Aero said about Mir in the nb and the whole PoE on the wagon.
Also I think skybird is town tho. I want to see more from her to solidify this.

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Titus was conf. town. I jist want to know why you didnt save her.

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Oh ok I am dumb

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Well I forgot.

Oka where would you place a vote?

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Those reasons rock *thumbs up*
No I want real shit, not jokish.

But I agree on one thing - the way Psyche reacted was strange. He left Marquis settle it out and he never conf. anything.

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Basically I think there is 4 mafia and SK cus 5 mafia seems too unbalanced. And if one of Alina/ Mir isnt scum then the only two left are the masons.

Pedit: so?

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When was that?
Cus from what I started reading he doesnt mention her much ( at all I even dare to say).

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When????

Day 3?

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Actually I am doing this:

VOTE: Mirhawk
I feel more comfortable with this vote.
Pedit: um I am gonna iso Mir tomorrow and see if he ever mentions such idea in thread.
Right now its late so bb.

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@reinoe the scum is obviously not searching for pr and thus killing only strong players. That is why I am not surprised oka who can be like so dumb and Sky who is super suspected to be still alive.
Mir why did you post your thoughts on Titus scum in the nb compared to the thread?

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By judging how aero talked about Oka in the nb I dont see them being buddies.
Oka may be SK tho.

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@Gameplay
Nobody knows the setup yet.

So that's possible, but unconfirmed.

But according to Reinoe it's a known setup. Duhhhh

You know, this is just not gonna get anywhere right now. Honestly, I keep forgetting we have like 22 people, and right now tree isn't helping the town, and probably won't be in the future. I made this mistake last game. It's not like we're in Lylo, and this lynch will give us information.

Vote:Tree

If you had come back from being a lurk ball after two days with like reads, some sort of quality anything, I wouldn't be voting you. But you've made it very obvious your not going to help anyone.

I still stick by my reads list based on the tree wagon, though. The people who said they were voting for him because he was scum need to be looked into.

I'm gonna go take a shower or something

Um this and his hardcore defense on tree in his reads list doesnt makes sense as tree/Mar being his buddies. And if that is so then Mar/Psyche really are masons.

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While reading your iso you seemed really convinced of tn/Aero and gave plenty of reasons for them. But since tn flipped town who do you think makes most sense as Aero's buddy now?

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Also something just occured to me. In the rules suggest multiple roleblockers. We know only 1 town rb - Josh b. Thus maybe scum has a scum roleblocker?

Also are there 3 or 4 nb's? Is psyche on a nb?

Right now I feel like my nb is clean. Me and Sky are town.
From Marq and Pere the only option is Pere.
From Mir, Shadow and Oka( they are ina nb right?) I think town is Shadow and Oka.

But the question is - from 4 scum would Wake place 3 of them in the only 3 nb's?

Oka or Shadow - can you copy paste the things Mir has said about Aero in the nb? I will post the things Aero has said about Mir and we can compare them.

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Also if my calculations are right there are a total number of 4 scum in the moment and 9 town. I will start doing my PoE and form my list of players who can be scum when I get back from school.

Till then a question to someone who has modded a game and knows balance ( Mir I know you asked but I want to know too)
Is it more balanced to have 15 town and 6 scum in a 21 p game or is it more balanced to have 16 town and 5 scum in a 21 p game ( cobsidering one of the scum is an SK)

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Why?

Also I still havent done Poe and shit. Too lazy

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Lol bad vote. Why?

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Right now I prefer to not base my reads on the hoods. Wake could of either placed them randomly or not. It depends. That is why I base my reads on this thread and my nb.

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Still not finished. Like I need to get to work on this game but I am super lazy

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Oh god house...
House we all know you got a scum role.

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I mad yes. But eh.
Listen to me pls

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ugh internet problems
will try to post asap

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Wait why is he being wagoned?
Another mislynch

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What did reinoe claim?

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Ok so I vote.
I want night cus I need to read sorry

VOTE: Oka

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I am cop cleared. So suck my ass.
If this flips town you die tomorrow.

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Oh oh antitown should I cry ;(
Hah nah.
And if I am not clear then why did you all take reinoes claim as a clear?

Huh scum

Pedit: lol really? Shitty people

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Nice 2 more scum


This has to be scum:
VOTE: Muffin

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House werent you going to lynch me?

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Godfather with 1 cop in 21 p game? Pls

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Omg what is this shit.

So you think I am godfather, huh?

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Lolz Sk? Pls.

Again i ask. Godfather and ii SK in a 21 person game with only 1 cop? The cop cant even be saved. Like if he cant be saved and there are ii roles then this is like shitty.
This is like so silly. Drop the shit house

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Loll this above was sad.

Like we are talking about why there arent ii roles. Does doc investigate? Nope. Does bodyguard investigate? Nope. Oh wait trackers investigate but then I have to be tracker immune not cop immune. Soo lets do this again:
Investigative roles:
1 tracker and 1 cop. If I was ii I had to be ii to either the tracker and the cop. And then to what conclusion do we get? We dont have ii roles. Gj me.
And let me ask you this. If there really were ii roles why did the cop get so nerfed? I mean he cant be doc protected nor saved by any way then why is he so nerfed? Huh. Ii roles and 1 cop who cant be saved seems really bad. So ye gj genius.

And then if there really were ii roles. Like am ii SK as you say. Why did bith the SK and mafia rush to kill Titus then?
You see you are just posting shiat, more shiat and bigger shiat.

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You stupidity makes me gigle.

Like do you know what flail means?

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I answered everything. Or atleast the things you wrote while your brain was on. Now pls read my post again and finally understand why there are no ii roles.

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Idc about shadow cus I think he is town. You on the other side are either dumb or scum.

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House is our example here.


Shadow bby I have a life. And like I will join you in the nb in a moment but pls dont bitch

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I didnt read. I didnt do shit. Srry

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House, dear, do you wear your glasses?
I hammered him when you guys said there was a doc cc. And that it made Oka's claim less beliavable.

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Oh pere is at L-1. Should I hammer?

Also if its not him then pine/shadow might be it.

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And you like how shadow jumped after the wagon got popular? Ye,no

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I think Pine is scum guys. Like really scum. I am not sure on pere seeing how it developed.

Welp a message to our lovely SK:
Dear mister SK,
We need your help. You see the game will soon be over if we dont lynch correctly today and if you kill town again we might not win. I mean nor town nor you could win. And you see we have no idea in who you could be. So please try killing scum tonight. If you it'll reward you greatly by probably winning. Use your own reads mister SK but I suggest Pine dies. Like stab that bitch several times till he becomes a bloody, meaty mess. Ty ty :3



Pedit: oh house are you the SK?

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Guys new plan: We start trolling, SK does all the work for us. How does it sound?

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Housy house I am not addression you !!!!!! So dont adress me kk?

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You are not masons? Lool

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Didnt you claim masons with him?
Also if you werent masons why didnt you say anythig

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Did I get replaced?

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Omg why why why am I still in this. I need a vc