NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Titus]

@PV, Reinoe is also cleared by me PV. Mirhawk is the way to go if you are interested in saving your bacon.

Meh. My death will mean Marquis dies, so I'll have effectively caught scum, so it wouldn't bother me much.

If I check your ISO, will I find a Mirhawk case? Thinking back, he doesn't seem particularly scummy. Need to check if he's in a hood.

Deliberately avoiding cases so scum cannot see strength of scumread. I want to be nonthreatening as I can be.

[PeregrineV]

21 players would mean 5 scum. Not sure if 5+1 SK or 4+1 SK.

Looking at 1 scum per hood, 1 min outside, SK probably outside hood.

[PeregrineV]

FIXED

Neighborhoods (I think)

marquis/

titus

/

pv

/

texcat

tn5421/

aero

/

gameplay

/royalape
Mirhawk/

Aegor

/Oka/Shadowez

Not in hood

Josh

reinoe

notscience
Muffin

Elyse
TSO

Majiffy
alina
Psyche

Out of the Mirhawk, Oka, Shadow hood, would like to hear thoughts from the hood. I think it was posted already, so will go read, but if Oka is actual doc, scum in [Mirhawk, Shadow].

[PeregrineV]

Out-of-hood scum is looking to by Psyche.

Still would put muffin as the SK.

Marquis scum in our hood.

[PeregrineV]

Aero-Mirhawk and Aero-Shadow interactions would probably be a good start for figuring that out.

[PeregrineV]

EBWOP

Out-of-hood scum is looking to be Psyche.

Still would put muffin as the SK.

Marquis scum in our hood.

[reinoe]

FIXED

Neighborhoods (I think)

marquis/

titus

/

pv

/

texcat

tn5421/

aero

/

gameplay

/royalape
Mirhawk/

Aegor

/Oka/Shadowez

Not in hood

Josh

reinoe

notscience
Muffin

Elyse
TSO

Majiffy
alina
Psyche

Based on this, and the night kills I would lean towards Alina being the serial killer, even though I have a town lean on her.

Serial Killer is obviously someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

[PeregrineV]

FIXED

Neighborhoods (I think)

marquis/

titus

/

pv

/

texcat

tn5421/

aero

/

gameplay

/royalape
Mirhawk/

Aegor

/Oka/Shadowez

Not in hood

Josh

reinoe

notscience
Muffin

Elyse
TSO

Majiffy
alina
Psyche

Based on this, and the night kills I would lean towards Alina being the serial killer, even though I have a town lean on her.

Serial Killer is obviously someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

You think she killed TSO and texcat? Was she scumhunting or getting rid of people who suspected her?

[reinoe]

FIXED

Neighborhoods (I think)

marquis/

titus

/

pv

/

texcat

tn5421/

aero

/

gameplay

/royalape
Mirhawk/

Aegor

/Oka/Shadowez

Not in hood

Josh

reinoe

notscience
Muffin

Elyse
TSO

Majiffy
alina
Psyche

Based on this, and the night kills I would lean towards Alina being the serial killer, even though I have a town lean on her.

Serial Killer is obviously someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

You think she killed TSO and texcat? Was she scumhunting or getting rid of people who suspected her?

TSO and texcat are just random kills that had no strategic value. Alina is the only player I could see making those kills. But we can lynch you today though.

[PeregrineV]

FIXED

Neighborhoods (I think)

marquis/

titus

/

pv

/

texcat

tn5421/

aero

/

gameplay

/royalape
Mirhawk/

Aegor

/Oka/Shadowez

Not in hood

Josh

reinoe

notscience
Muffin

Elyse
TSO

Majiffy
alina
Psyche

Based on this, and the night kills I would lean towards Alina being the serial killer, even though I have a town lean on her.

Serial Killer is obviously someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

You think she killed TSO and texcat? Was she scumhunting or getting rid of people who suspected her?

TSO and texcat are just random kills that had no strategic value. Alina is the only player I could see making those kills. But we can lynch you today though.

Only if you listen to me. It has been discussed many times that dead town players get totally ignored.

Plus the fact that once you set your mind like this you'll spend the next 8 days doing nothing, so you'll understand if I push for better lynch targets while you repeat how much you want me lynched, right?

[PeregrineV]

And why would you see Alina making kills that have "no strategic value"? What does that even mean for an SK?

There has to be thought behind it, wrong or right. And if it's not personal grudge or somesuch, they are getting rid of town or scumhunting.

[reinoe]

FIXED

Neighborhoods (I think)

marquis/

titus

/

pv

/

texcat

tn5421/

aero

/

gameplay

/royalape
Mirhawk/

Aegor

/Oka/Shadowez

Not in hood

Josh

reinoe

notscience
Muffin

Elyse
TSO

Majiffy
alina
Psyche

Based on this, and the night kills I would lean towards Alina being the serial killer, even though I have a town lean on her.

Serial Killer is obviously someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

You think she killed TSO and texcat? Was she scumhunting or getting rid of people who suspected her?

TSO and texcat are just random kills that had no strategic value. Alina is the only player I could see making those kills. But we can lynch you today though.

Only if you listen to me. It has been discussed many times that dead town players get totally ignored.

Plus the fact that once you set your mind like this you'll spend the next 8 days doing nothing, so you'll understand if I push for better lynch targets while you repeat how much you want me lynched, right?

What you just said makes no fucking sense. I just shared my thoughts on why Alina could be serial killer. And while I've been pushing for you lynch today I've also been stating that Majiffy could be scum. That's pretty ridiculous to say that I'm going to be doing nothing except pushing for your lynch when the post you just quoted is contradictory to that.

[Psyche]

it looks like the sk is mostly just avoiding crosskills

[tn5421]

you guys are going on some weird tangent or something.

[reinoe]

you guys are going on some weird tangent or something.

Yeah, this is true.

Psyche vote for PV. He's scum.

[tn5421]

No. Oka needs to die.

[reinoe]

No. Oka needs to die.

We are reaching critical mass of PR's. We don't need to lynch any of the PR's when there's a serial killer out there.

[PeregrineV]

you guys are going on some weird tangent or something.

Yeah, this is true.

Psyche vote for PV. He's scum.

Is Psyche a mason with Marquis?

[Psyche]

i dont think anyone here can give me a good reason to vote pv after the last few pages

[notscience]

I can

He didn't green out my name

[Mirhawk]

Deliberately avoiding cases so scum cannot see strength of scumread. I want to be nonthreatening as I can be.

Is this serious?

How could you be worried about being a bigger target then the cop?

No. Oka needs to die.

Oka is not scum. Period.

If there's scum in our neighborhood, it has to be shadow.

Which brings us to the likelyhood of there being scum in every neighborhood. I'm inclined to believe that there's probably at least one neighborhood with no scum, if for no other reason then to prevent us from hunting scum in exactly the manner that's being proposed.

I also still think there's still one unclaimed neighborhood. I can't remember what it was, but something Psyche said near the beginning of the game made me think he was in a neighborhood. Not to mention two masons would make much more sense in this game if they were linking a neighborhood, otherwise what would they be talking about that Marquis couldn't talk about in his hood.

[Mirhawk]

Unvote

[gameplay506]

Havent read several pages. Not intending to do so.

[shaddowez]

What are WotM and PotM?

We are reaching critical mass of PR's. We don't need to lynch any of the PR's when there's a serial killer out there.

This I agree with (not to mention I'm less sure of Oka as scum than I was at the beginning of toDay).

UNVOTE:

i dont think anyone here can give me a good reason to vote pv after the last few pages

I'm actually liking PV a little bit less after the last few pages. The setup spec has me questioning whether he's actually town not knowing where scum are, or scum pretending to not know where scum are. Even before they were outed ITT, after D1 scum knows about all the neighborhoods that they're in. It'd be easy for them to say "there's probably scum in every neighborhood" in order to force lynches from every hood, especially if that isn't the case. Which brings me up to the following point:

Which brings us to the likelyhood of there being scum in every neighborhood. I'm inclined to believe that there's probably at least one neighborhood with no scum, if for no other reason then to prevent us from hunting scum in exactly the manner that's being proposed.

I agree with this. I'm not saying it's definitely ours, though I do think Mir is town so there's a possibility it is.

Unvote

Why the unvote, you haven't mentioned PV since 3550?

[tn5421]

WotM is Wistom of the Mod, an analogue to WotC (Wisdom of the Crowd)

I immediately responded with a Dota joke (PotM -> Priestess of the Moon -> Mirana)