New York 182 - Game Over

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lynching marquis is always for the greater good of the world
there's no negatives
because i said so
etc

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crap posted before i said what i wanted to say

^But but marquis is good :/

anyway 6 pages. time to read

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ITT :

• People starting a 22 player WAY TOO FAST.
  
• Crappy music.
  
• People not feeling the game enough that they feel the need to replace out. Meaning some of you are actually not welcomong towards other players during dawn. Really shitty attitude to have.
  
• A weird wagon

I don't think I've played with any of you (as BBmolla was replaced), I've been on site for a while but didn't play that much in the last years due to unforeseen medical issues. I had a bad reputation but that shouldn't be a problem anymore. I live in a civilized area of the world (ie: Paris, France) so I sleep when most of you are going crazy.

Right now I dig thor., the rest is meh. I won't vote because we have a dangerous wagon at L-2 that I don't caution right now.

Good luck & Have fun peeps.

Post way too robotic m8. why would you call people trying to force a wagon for info too fast? I dont get this...

VOTE: Otolia

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Hi friendly people that don't chase off newbie! <3

This is my first game outside of Road to Rome too, so don't call me a dog. You can call me a kitten or other feline if you must.

So far we are 6 pages in and I'm just really confused. Are in RVS? Are we out of RVS? Someone that hasn't posted yet got like 9 votes?

Varsoon is town. His wagon reeks badly of a scum run up. He has not even posted and he is about to get lynched. Unless someone can give me a darn good reason to scum read him than I am going to presume he is town .

What reason, never mind a good one, could there be to scumread someone that has not posted yet anyway?

so yeah tell me why we are running up Vasoon before he even posts.

I second this. Lolwut, guys?

VOTE: ZZZX, so they get something to reply to when they decide to make their first post.

which part of this do you want me to reply to?

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Btw it might be a dumb question but what happens to hated person in lylo?

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I oversleep for a day and boom 30 pages

I'll read it all tomorrow CU's I got free time somewhat tomorrow

Prodge for now

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Because I'm about the only chance you'll get of living today, and as either alignment that's probably important to you

NS is town.

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While reading note: So much fluff and random stuff. Sadly I know both scum and town do it. but it makes reading heall... :/

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@House :

Varsoon has been very liberal with his words. What he says holds little value to me until he redeems himself. Still that's a start. But that's not enough, what prevents anyone from pulling the same shit and cruise off in the sunset ? If we are going to do this, then I want everyone voting or having vote on Varsoon to agree to lynch him tomorrow in the event he fails to deliver. No backsies, no discussion, just pure rational decision making. With 8 people it's enough to drive a wagon so big, it won't matter if scum is in it.

UNVOTE: Varsoon

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The Covenant of Varsoon

Varsoon shall be voted D2 if he can't prove his town alignment by the following players

:

• Sakura Hana
  
  
• House
  
  
• Otolia
  
  
• Thor665
  
• Formerfish
  
• Flames of Disaster
  
• Marquis
  
• Antihero

If you are on this list, please confirm that you will act without ANY questions or conditions ask, or you shall be held accountable as well.

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@droog

: Can you please write my name correctly ?

Uhhhh....

I will check your wiki for past games man cus i have no idea where to start reading you...

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Guys i dont get that hammer...

but anyway I have read ~36 pages and will finish them today. please no hammers suddenly again..

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droog should stop mindlessly spamming. it hurts my eyes (and brain)

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i am good with this vote
VOTE: mnemonicdevice

Its true that I shouldnt be town read as I didnt do crap but... this vote sucks

FOS: Seohyun

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I find it suspicious that elusive and Thor are essentially tunneling each other but aren't even voting each other, instead they are voting the same DAMN person!

This will be interesting if any of them flips scum dont you think?

*note*

^ I will use those tags to find notes later on that I find really interesting

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Because I am thinking... and I am doing 2 online tests while writing this

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give me 30 minutes guys. 30 minutes.

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treating 1350/1 like they're so damning when out of the mouth of a more well-known player they'd be treated as reasonable feels unfair

Can you rephrase this sentense? I totally didnt get it. :/

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this probably isn't what you want to hear but i've known her and the way she talks online for a long time

so i'd say i'm fairly accurate in thinking that so far she hasn't really sounded uncomfortable or like anything out of the ordinary at all

really it's a complete lack of anything noticeably different from the norm that's just making me go nope to this push on her. i can't definitely commit at the moment though, it's mostly a nulltown read that's been in the same place for a while

so you mean thats basically her meta?

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I guess ill take marquis word here

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Note from reading Thor posts: I find his questions unlike what his playstyle as town would be from my personal experiance... they feel too lacking tbh

VOTE: Thor for above thing and to make my vote useful i guess?

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and thats mostly gut feeling

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Note from reading Thor posts: I find his questions unlike what his playstyle as town would be from my personal experiance... they feel too lacking tbh

VOTE: Thor for above thing and to make my vote useful i guess?

How is town thor like

I feel like I learn something new about mafia every single post he does.

Right now I am reading his posts and feel my IQ possibly going lower (for at least half of his posts... No offense about your posting style but more like at his info in the post)

Like personally I am prob guilty of the same thing but I have never seen thor not hunting with extreme logical edge as town.

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And I hope you got what I mean by what i just said

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Note from reading Thor posts: I find his questions unlike what his playstyle as town would be from my personal experiance... they feel too lacking tbh

VOTE: Thor for above thing and to make my vote useful i guess?

How is town thor like

and I wana add this post slightly ringed my scumdar. No idea why tbh

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And I hope you got what I mean by what i just said

Thor isn't playing up to par
And you find that scummy, correct?
have you played with scum thor?

Note from reading Thor posts: I find his questions unlike what his playstyle as town would be from my personal experiance... they feel too lacking tbh

VOTE: Thor for above thing and to make my vote useful i guess?

How is town thor like

and I wana add this post slightly ringed my scumdar. No idea why tbh

gut^TM

not exactly but you can say its like that
and i think i did twice at least
gut is how i do this

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but I have never seen thor not hunting with extreme logical edge as town.

What are your thoughts on my two primary cases currently?

I can see some logic but I am not that convinced tbh. Usually your cases will feel more clear/direct I guess?

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I need to read mnen closely cus I dont feel any of the posts pinged my scumdar

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.so make this answer look good.

I will rather truthfully give my thoughts as i think they are. you know I am that kind of player that will say his un-filtered thoughts even if they might seem scummy just because its his policy.

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Will do that later tonight(after i finish stuff i need to do)

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Awesome.

So...feel free to use your unfiltered thoughts to...y'know...answer the question now?
Or are you dodging it? You can, just let me know that's what you're doing.
But I'd like you to answer the question.

after my post i said i will reply to everything later, is that fine?

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I had taken that as a reply to Gork, and hadn't realized you need to reassess why my cases lack clarity - since you're voting me over it, I sort of thought you'd already figured that out.

But, sure, take as much time as you need. Just keep me updated and expect me to mock your case and find you scummy until you manage it.

Honestly, looking at the time/date stamps - I am of the mind that you're lying to me, to be frank.

I will be frank with you. I read your posts and jsut found them as i told you. if you want an indepth analysis of them you need to wait. I understand that you find me lying.

on another note I am lazy enough to actually just sit here and do nothing

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Well duh - you're voting for me.

I dont think my vote will hurt you that much imho. and i dont feel keeping it there a little more will hurt will it?

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Boon why is ur last post so forced man.

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Also UNVOTE:

A gut feeling from a quick read really proved inaccurate as I can't find an accurate accusation of thors reads

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::a nearby brick wall has head shaped bloodstains upon it - no clear reason is able to be surmised.::

11/10 would do again

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VOTE: Antihero
I don't see the scumread on Seohyun either and after our little discussion he went back to lurking unless needled by Thor.

This post pushed me to quickly skin throu anti hero's iso and...

Its even worse than mine...

VOTE: Anti hero

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The last time I played with droog he bussed Boon, who flipped scum D1, and his other partner, looked really town to me until comradekafka, randomly from my pov, checked him N1 and came out with a guilty D2, at which point scum got completly wrecked.

So I think droog is kind of insane with the way he plays mafia, but he doesn't appear to be more informed than the average joe here and while in the other game he strived for towncred and control, to the detriment of his teammates, the fact he is not budging from his bad read of me and is being marginalized because of it makes me think he might be town. And yes Thor, this is not a meta argument as you classify it, you would call it a gut read.

Its not really a gut read here thou. But i see your point but remeber one thing: that might be true yet scum sometimes can pull something like that (see organic mafia when marquis was really pushed so hard all game long except for me << I was scumz >> where i was defending him with my partner pushing him. good days )

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observation
scum encouraged the post flurry
((sakura is still at #2 postcount))

did sucm not burn out then?

what do you mean?

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Intent to read toniiight

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Aw crap i forgot about this.

prodge while i read.

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Skimmed last few pages and will VOTE: NS

I honestly have trouble reading a game if I didnt actively chat with people there to understand them. so let me see....
@seo is there any reason except for my uselessness for voting me generally?
@Gork same thing
@boon thoughts generally on the game? I believe you are town so i wana hear your point of view
@thor does your anti hero read still stands?


generally the NS vote is a near deadline one tbh. Misactivity in a game can be cus of many reasons. I know that first hand.

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@zzzx
Your thought/vote trajectory
Good reason, eh?

holy shit thats a cat in your avatar
i thought it was hair

realized that at the beginning of this game
so deceiving

can you be kind enough to explain what you mean?

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vla perants out of country for 2 days and I gotta take care of the house for that time

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My vla was done 2 days agoa nd didnt notice day syarted. Will catch up later.
On another mote ill try to join discussions to helpme catch up.

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Ill try to catch up one more time if I cant ill just replace out.

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Can drop it.
If I'm motivated I'll take a look later.
Only thing that really needs to happen is MD's next post.
If it's a lame "uhhhh guys im stil not playing" post and not a catchup/a replaceout then we should murder the Smurf out of him.

Let's add ZZZX to that - because he's doing the exact same thing.

I know I am guilty >.<
but Let me ask you a question. Do you actually think I am scum (outside of lurking)? because it changes if its a pure lurking thing or an actual scum read.

I got that you dont like when my vote moved between you and anti. Right?

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Grats to marquis! I had to replace out early as I didnt give the game what it deserved and doubted I could at my time frame and the speed this game was going. Sorry bulge! and good game to all.