NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Quaroath]

RVS is RVS.

Its too early to say ika is town, but I feel good about you.

Wolfie seems confscum

VOTE: Salamence20

Whaa?

VOTE: Quaroath
>.>

WELP. CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING!!!

Also, RedFF is trying to hard to say something without saying anything, as noted by others.

RedFF - I've been stuck phone posting myself, and if I remember correctly Silver is right now that's a terrible excuse for wishy-washiness.... how hard is it for you to read/remember just over 3 pages? Why are you waffling so easy? Why are you scared of being pushed?

HUH, HUH?

Stick with those guns, bub.

VOTE: redff

[Quaroath]

more like as many problems with it, as I still feel like the lynchee was chosen somewhat arbitrarily

I agree, which is why Wolfie would be a better lynchee since they were chosen unarbitrarily

Why isn't this arbitrary?

[Quaroath]

The whole redff train seems like total bs, he said the post seemed forced, and was told that it was a quote from a previous game, why would anyone kepp a vote after that?

Possibly.
Do you have a better vote?

You for starting the train for no reason.

Except this isn't true. I gave you a reason.

You started the train for a profusely dumb reason, his unvote, when no reasonable person would keep up a vote after their main reason for voting was dispelled.

What would be a better reason to start a chain then?

Better question, why the hell are you so worried about it? Do you think it'll ride to a lynch this soon?

As much as I don't want "50 pages of bullshit" I think 5 pages is stupid as well.

[Quaroath]

more like as many problems with it, as I still feel like the lynchee was chosen somewhat arbitrarily

I agree, which is why Wolfie would be a better lynchee since they were chosen unarbitrarily

Why isn't this arbitrary?

Because Lapsa said they were confirmed scum.

Right.. because that claim wasn't arbitrary...

at all.

Also, if I was scum wouldn't I just happily jump on the wagon?

Not necessarily.

You could be Scum while avoiding the wagon, too.

Also, could be scum saying "don't speedlynch my budz please.

Ya know, if we are tossing theories around.

Also, Red is town. Like, I'm basically going to confirm him as town for myself due to the fact that Nam replaced because I was in this game. He's never played with me before, so if he was scum, he would have thought I was an easy mislynch. I don't see that slot having a chance at being scum.

I need to know if this is 100% joke or srzbiz.

Also, what silver just ninja'd me on.

[Quaroath]

Welp, I'm good stringing up Nos, Red, or Creed. Good first 10 pages.

[Quaroath]

VOTE: greyfoxx

There is zero reason for that early claim, beyond hurting town. The red vote was atrocious. Posts are three naked votes, an unneeded claim, and a "So what".

He's actively NOT ENGAGING, and just slinging votes.

Greyfox, are you going to engage at this point, or keep being meh?

[Quaroath]

I don't know what Fox is like as scum, since he posted like three times in Masquerade, but I think I have a vague townread on him for the sheer badness of his play so far. He doesn't really seem interested in looking good, which is ...kinda town? But really not something anyone else should try emulating.

This isn't my experience with grey as town. He's either trying to cover terrible town play with "changing my meta" or he's ya know.. not town.

Saying I've been town and just want to mix it up his meta is WIMOF hell, and he knows it. Wait - we crush silver over meta, but this guy does something universally seen as anti town, isn't at all as active as I know he is on town, but my meta read is whack.


...

okay.

Given recent interactions with SW, I'm not really buying the pissed off = scum argument. I've recently been on the receiving end of it from SW town. Hey more meta comments.

What's a singleball? I can't find it on the wiki.

One anti town team game

Also, discussion on me is welcome, and I'll answer questions ya'll have, but I work weekends and will only be posting once a day Friday-Sunday unless I get a hair under my ass on lunch at work.

[Quaroath]

as soon as my kid goes to bed, i'll be catching up. expect that in a couple hours.

[Quaroath]

So I can tell I can't take a single day off in this game. 13 pages in 48 hours. oof.

Quaroath

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The vote on Grayfoxx, 'not engaging,' thoughts on ika's same?

On ika not engaging? I'm not really sure what you are asking if that's not what you mean. I think ika is being his normal obnoxious and annoying town self. He's posting a lot and the tone/vibe is the same as I'm used to when I've seen him running around as a rage hammer townie

If I have more posts than you, it likely means I'm speaking my mind more than you're speaking yours.

The lines of communication are entirely open - for example, I'm happy to discuss a wide range of subjects, like why Grey is a great vote. If you don't want to communicate, it isn't my fault.

Or you post in four posts what he does in 1. Okay, that's not game relevant, but lets not having genital measuring contests over post numbers please.

Nos or grey needs to die after my read through, but I haven't been able to sit down and read the last 13 pages in depth and really think about it. What do I need to know?

[Quaroath]

Sigh

The Penthouse obviously refers to the mafia

Does it?

I wouldn't leap to that conclusion. I mean, it could be - but why even tell SW about it in that case? I don't tend to think of a mafia QT as a "neighborhood". This seems like a stretch. Also, I'd bet we'll get a better idea tomorrow.

I really don't like you Nos.

[Quaroath]

@SW - I tend to non-entity Day 1. Habit I've never been able to break. This game makes it extra hard because I don't like trying to read through personal attacks and bullshit.

Also, while I'm low post count - I was the person that pushed the now currently largest wagon to where it is - so I'm a nonentity because I'm not posting insane post counts? It's not like all my posts have been prod dodges. This is really weird logic that doesn't seem normal for you.

[Quaroath]

@SW - I tend to non-entity Day 1. Habit I've never been able to break. This game makes it extra hard because I don't like trying to read through personal attacks and bullshit.

Also, while I'm low post count - I was the person that pushed the now currently largest wagon to where it is - so I'm a nonentity because I'm not posting insane post counts? It's not like all my posts have been prod dodges. This is really weird logic that doesn't seem normal for you.

[Quaroath]

Ok, sure maybe that neighborhood is just a way to balance SW's role, secondly I'm not the first person to mention the idea of something like that being the case. Your inordinate level of focus on me is creepy.

[Quaroath]

We both double posted on this page.

Bros? Bros! Join me in shame

VOTE: wake

Clearly using misinformation to influence people.

[Quaroath]

Why would a Mafia PT be called the Penthouse, and why would a claimed Town PR be allowed to ask questions there through the Mod?

My vote is 100% for this section. SW made it very clear she that you couldn't ask in the Penthouse, but he's implying strongly you can.

I'm far more interested in Penthouse stories tomorrow, if we get any.

[Quaroath]

The real fixed list.

Known Neighborhoods

Spoiler:

1. Skybird -

The Northwest Commonroom

2. T S O -

Unknown Hood 1

3. Ika ?
4.

Silverwolf

5. Shinobi

Unknown Hood 2

6. Boonskiies

Unknown Hood 2

7. Wake88 ?
8. Ozgin ?
9. Texcat ?
10. Kop ?
11. Fro99er -

The Northwest Commonroom

12.

Lapsa

13.

GrayFoxxxx

14.

Mahonster

15. Quaroath ?
16. Creede73 -

Unknown Hood 1

17. RedFF -

Unknown Hood 1

18. Spiffeh

Unknown Hood 2

19.

Nosferatu

20. Annadog40 -

The Northwest Commonroom

21. Salamance20 ?

I'm not in a hood. Reading up a bit.

[Quaroath]

I'd love to get an Ozgin wagon going.

I'm being dense. Why?

[Quaroath]

UNVOTE:
nm SW, i found it.

[Quaroath]

Nos, no one is town based on a reads list, I have made that mistake before, if Ozgin is scum you are letting him manipulate you based on townreading you

I would change my vote even if he scum read me. His thoughts of me are irrelevant.

Because?

I see that he has been kind of defending you this game and you suddenly drop a scumread and vote for who he wants lynched off of one post.

Also, Oz has been buddying TSO all game.

And he likes Quaroath based on the play in the game he modded but I don't see much difference and Quar was scum there. He doesn't like Mah but Mah is no different than that game and was town there.

Like I said, I'll look into this more tomorrow but I have to be able to see a read progression that makes sense because that's one of the hardest things for scum to do, fabricate scumreads.

Interesting. I'm curious why you don't see anything different. I mean, I'm not really saying there is but I also haven't been sniping people and I'm trying to point out things others haven't when I get in the thread. I real Zed's, and here and I think it's different.

But that's me.I'd love to know why, and see if we can have a discourse.

Reality is the game is flying by and I'm perfectly okay with watching everyone else shit a brick in this large day 1 until flips happen that I can work with.

[Quaroath]

Silverwolf - Town. I don't really care about going much into this read.

This is town silver, through and through

. I don't even really need to support this right now, and if I find myself wrong later I'll really need to rethink my understanding of players that I think I know. But yeah, this is town, so leave it alone.

Woah Silver,

I've been buddying TSO all game? I haven't interacted with him directly for more than maybe one post? And I've just been making jokes.

I thought you were town, yeh?

You change your mind already?

This is tek

VOTE: Ozgin

[Quaroath]

Silverwolf - Town. I don't really care about going much into this read.

This is town silver, through and through

. I don't even really need to support this right now, and if I find myself wrong later I'll really need to rethink my understanding of players that I think I know. But yeah, this is town, so leave it alone.

Woah Silver,

I've been buddying TSO all game? I haven't interacted with him directly for more than maybe one post? And I've just been making jokes.

I thought you were town, yeh?

You change your mind already?

Ozgin is clearly butt kissing up and schmoozing TSO here - or at the very least trying to play him up as a danger to the town all game: 50, here 131, here 705, here 708, here 803, AND here 828

Then THIS gem in your reads:

TSO - Null. I honestly can't read him right now. At all. I'm not even gonna try, it's gonna slow my momentum of this mass-ISO dive I'm doing.

So first hes super dangerous ALL GAME till you are under pressure... then hes null? Wha?

Also that was a SUPER DUPER HARD TOWNREAD on silver, that you basically yank away at the drop of a hat. Also the reads list is. "EVERYONES NULL OR TOWN" Except like.. three people. They are null scum, lean scum, and scum. Welp. I have a worse idea now of what you think is going on now, than I did before because so much nothing. That's impressive.

But that other big wagon people keep saying that might go for? Yeah - THAT guy is scum. I kinda feel bad here, since I started the damn wagon - but the camp is strong with this one.

Honestly, no. Nothing beyond GreyFoxxx having a gross ISO. I'd be lying if I said I read this game very thoroughly.

Although, I don't see the stink about Nosferatu to be completely honest with you. I mean, if anything at worst I'd put him at null, and at best I'd put him at null-town.

I'm gonna have time more for this game in the next few days since my girlfriend is out of town, but I'm most comfortable with a GreyFox lynch right now. If someone could make a solid, coherent case on Nosferatu I'd be inclined to go there as well, but they seem pretty normal to me.

His reasoning when he joined the Greyfoxx wagon was a total sheepjob, and he then called out Grey for being a sheep in his last reads list. Plus he's making sure he reads the vast majority of the game as nullish, so he can go where the winds blow. Classic fence sitting across the board.

By the way, here is his reads list without all the words for the record.

Funnily, I’m the only person NOT categorized explicitly, but his wording seems to put me either lean town or null town. Unless he states otherwise, I'll go worst case and slot myself into null town.

OZGINS READS:

Town

Boon, Nosferatu, Silverwolf, Wake

Lean town

Kop, Shinobi

Null-town

Annadog, Creede, RedFF, Quaroath

Null

Fro99er, Ika, Texcat, TSO, Skybird, Spiffeh, Mahonster

Null-scum

Lapsa

Lean Scum

Salamance

Scum

Grayfoxxxx

[Quaroath]

Quaroath what do you think of Annadog?

Prob scum. The thread already had me thinking that, the information I just saw about the hood makes it more likely. Most prob scum from her hood.

[Quaroath]

He is scum. I don't care what you think. I noted that, while I was reading, some players have said things along the lines of, "Oh Grey is just an easy lynch, and people pushing his lynch are more than likely scum!", but I don't change my reads on what other people say. If you'd look at his ISO, you'd see that all of his posts lack substance, he only ever sheeps when he votes, and as far as I remember, I'm the only player he has really engaged with. So yeah, he's scum.

I'm perfectly comfortable with this lynch, but it reads - with everything else - like picking the easy target.

And yes, you did want more from me!

UNVOTE: Ozgin
I guess I'll wait a bit before casting another vote.

lmao I'm a fucking idiot, EDBWOP, should be UNVOTE: grayfoxxx lmao. But you should be able to realize that I fucked up if you can properly read english, but w/e.

Wait.. so it's our job to remember who you are voting, not yours? ....

ree with SW, I think it was, who said that it's hard to have a good read based on secondhand info from the hood. I didn't like Anna's start particularly, but I didn't like Frogger's start very much either. So I'm reluctant to take one interpretation over the other. Although I do have a town lean on Skybird. I'd like to see more from Anna to get a better feel fo

Random thought - this push on Anna could be a scum team bussing a partner to solidify cred they are "2 town from the hood". It's unlikely but that popped into my head reading this post. Not sure why.

I believe Q is always scum because Gamblers Fallacy.

=(

Kop and Quaroth are both mega-lurkers.
Those wagons could be fun.

I remember asking Kop a question about why he wanted to lynch Ozgin and he wanted to kill Oz regardless of his alignment. He wasn't really straightforward about it either - he said Oz was either bad town or scum and left it at that.


I can't remember a single thing Q has done this game at all.

Tryhard

@SW - I tend to non-entity Day 1. Habit I've never been able to break. This game makes it extra hard because I don't like trying to read through personal attacks and bullshit.

Can you provide town examples of this?

Also, while I'm low post count - I was the person that pushed the now currently largest wagon to where it is

- so I'm a nonentity because I'm not posting insane post counts? It's not like all my posts have been prod dodges. This is really weird logic that doesn't seem normal for you.

This is pretty scummy. Especially the bolded.

Only if you want exmaples taht are 4 years old - as that's the last time I played a large. Sorry.

Also - it is TOTALLY scummy without context. However it was a direct reply to this:

-Quaroath only has 9 posts and is basically a non-entity

It entire purpose was to point out - Hey, I'm contributing and have impacted the game. That's hardly "non entity". In context, it's a lot less bad. But then again - you didn't want to quote the context for that reason I assume?

[Quaroath]

I'm around for a few hours, hit me up with questions if you want something specific.

[Quaroath]

UNVOTE: OzginUNVOTE:

[Quaroath]

I'm around for a few hours, hit me up with questions if you want something specific.

Feedback on my latest post?

Thinking it through now. I just read it and want to trace a few things.

[Quaroath]

I'm a failure

UNVOTE: Ozgin

[Quaroath]

Initial thoughts though:

Not really feeling the interference angle right now - maybe one of Shinobi and SW would do this.. but both? nah. I don't buy it. Not this early. I'm aware this may be colored because I read Ozgin (well did) the same as SW at the time of my case post. That makes me lean town on her - and yes I totally get this isn't a basis for a strong townread.

On the other had, Shinobi I could totally buy running interference as a piggyback on SW's push against your TSO case.

I'm also trying to be practical. I see a TSO case going no where today, so I'm not... that worried about TSO?

My pool would be grey (obvious reasons), Anna (overall play), or Shinobi.

Is a Shinobi wagon feasible? I'd have to go look to see if it's just an OMGUS at his last post (like, has he read the game??) colored by your case, or really a game long impression on unease. I don't want to tunnel down a OMGUS wagon - but if you are correct a Shinobi lynch would be the best feasible test of your scenario.

[Quaroath]

Like seriously...if it's a habit you are unable to break, why do you not have an example going back 4 years? That's not a habit.

And why are you claiming you tend to non-entity D1, while at the same time trying to counter to SW that you are an entity D1?

A better wording would be I tend to laze around Day 1 until engaged by someone else. I'm not big on dusting it up Day 1. It's not a habit I can't break - I just have no desire to do so.

[Quaroath]

@SW - I tend to non-entity Day 1. Habit I've never been able to break. This game makes it extra hard because I don't like trying to read through personal attacks and bullshit.

Can you provide town examples of this?

Also, while I'm low post count - I was the person that pushed the now currently largest wagon to where it is

- so I'm a nonentity because I'm not posting insane post counts? It's not like all my posts have been prod dodges. This is really weird logic that doesn't seem normal for you.

This is pretty scummy. Especially the bolded.

Only if you want exmaples taht are 4 years old - as that's the last time I played a large. Sorry.

Also - it is TOTALLY scummy without context. However it was a direct reply to this:

-Quaroath only has 9 posts and is basically a non-entity

It entire purpose was to point out - Hey, I'm contributing and have impacted the game. That's hardly "non entity". In context, it's a lot less bad. But then again - you didn't want to quote the context for that reason I assume?

I get that, and that's why left your whole quote in and even mentioned specifically the bolded part was especially scummy part while still leaving the rest of the quote in (which was also scummy).

But that doesn't excuse the fact that you were called out for a low post count as a non-entity, and to prove your entity-worthiness you were like "I TOTALLY DID SOMETHING!"

That's the full context, and it's still scummy. You just even said so yourself with "Hey, I'm contributing and have impacted the game"...like, why did you feel the need to defend yourself like that when you had ZERO votes on you. Scum are the ones who tend to point out they are "contributing" and "impacting the game".

Also, so you mean you tell me you don't have a game in 4 years where you were a non-entity, even though you SAID you tend to non-entity in D1 and it's a habit you can't break (while trying to prove you were actually being an entity by making your "I'm doing stuff" point)?

So I read this, and I think to myself ... okay - I'm just going to ignore this now because you are asking questions akin to "When are you going to stop beating your wife?". There is no answer you are going to accept and it's just not worth the effort. That same logic tells me that defending myself now isn't needed because I only have 1 vote - yours.

This is a large - I don't have a large for reference that survived the server death.

[Quaroath]

That same logic tells me that defending myself now isn't needed because I only have 1 vote - yours.

Yet you felt the need to defend yourself about SW saying you were non-entity when you had ZERO votes...

Oh for fucks sake, you so aren't worth it on this line of questioning.

Let me go find a couple games for you if you are good with non larges.

[Quaroath]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=18883
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=19175

My recent completed games are scum so. #welp.

[Quaroath]

Oh, so TSO is confSK?

he said he was a serial killer, that's not the same as it being confirmed

Right, but scum would have little use of just claiming SK and being leashed right?

I don't see why we haven't lynched TSO yet.
At the rate this is going, the less deaths we have the better.
Just a few more town lives could cost the game.

And what if TSO is bluffing on being leashed? 3 more town dead tonight? At this point he really just gets to choose to help town or help scum, not himself.
Are there two scum groups and SK? Or was one kill a vig kill?

Welp. This is very texcatty redff'y

[Quaroath]

Mah-not a fan of that onepost of yours

Qua-it's been 5 days, do something or die fFS

Yeah yeah. Engage me. I'm reading up now. I just got home.

[Quaroath]

So I agree that Spiffeh is likely the mafia kill. Going iso diving. Also looking at Boon.

cfb by wake's (sorry man)

[Quaroath]

@TSo - Do you still think SW should visit your hood now, or not? Now that the claim is in the open, as it were.

[Quaroath]

Other thoughts - I think we'd be better served with SW visiting Shinobi's hood.

He scumslips in the hood, and during the night his hood mates decide it wasn't a slip?

hmmm.....

[Quaroath]

I think TSO should be the D3 lynch. He either dies to crossfire tonight or we test the claim tomorrow. It's completely plausible that we are in a two scum team (as opposed too scum/sk), and if that's right... we might be in serious trouble if we don't know that the deeper we get.

Continuing to think.

[Quaroath]

Hmm. Silver - talk to me about Mah. I see two things in his ISO that worry me (I'll mention them first if you want me to) Looking to engage and to some degree differentiate myself from him so it's eaiser for (leash kill) to determine to snipe me or him, if that's the choice as you want it to be.

Reading his ISO remind me tons of my play in Zed's SW. DO you see that as well?

Also Billi's.

Thoughts on that?

[Quaroath]

HEY TOMORROW *8/22* IS MY 7th ANNIVERSARY. I WON'T BE ON TONS. SUNDAY I'M GONNA BE HERE FOR EONS

[Quaroath]

Other thoughts - I think we'd be better served with SW visiting Shinobi's hood.

He scumslips in the hood, and during the night his hood mates decide it wasn't a slip?

hmmm.....

I don't like this.
The only person in the hood whose opinion is a mystery to everyone still alive was Boon. Spiffeh clearly changed his mind before the thread closed, so why are you trying to attribute both of their deaths to me?

Oh i noticed, but you specifically call out that THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND AT NIGHT.

Which as you just noted isn't true.

It doesn't sit right with me.

[Quaroath]

Both Spiffeh and Boon decided that the scumslip didn't exist last night. Neither of them suspected me.
/shrug

We were all bouncing ideas off each other before Boon/Spiff died. All three of us decided that we wanted to lynch Kop/Mahonster today.

Pedit: The South Corridor.

Boon never said it in thread. Spiff said it pre close. Meh.

I don't consider you cleared just cause your hood mates are dead and Boon decided in the night you were town

Again, why I'd prefer SW goes to your hood.

As I said.

I'm fully aware this might just me being paranoid.

You are hardly the first on the list of hood people I want lynched. This shouldn't distract from a red/mah hunt.

[Quaroath]

I don't really think that answer sates me tbh.
I'll sleep on it.

tbh i don't expect it to, and I don't really care if it does.

Bigger fish to fry right now.

[Quaroath]

mah is super scummeh, I'd vote that shit 2nd adfterr Red

no offense mah, I lkie you otherwise but scum is scum

Thing is I ain't no scum.

Quaroath what specific things about my play remind me of you?
IIRC, the reason I thought you were scum in Zed's was mainly because of your read placements. Everything after that just snowballed with the way you interacted with certain people, and how you reacted to any assault.

Totally didn't see this last night.

Serious buddy to near confront slots, posting charts to seem helpful but doing nothing with the information in them.

Other stuff, but those are the big ones

[Quaroath]

VOTE: redff posting from phone, but this is the dir ed crooning want to go today. Here or texcat/mah

[Quaroath]

VOTE: redff posting from phone, but this is the dir ed crooning want to go today. Here or texcat/mah

Can you explain this vote? Also, explain if you still think mah is scum or who else is scum?

Firebringer-Who do you think is scum? You read on Red especially considering you are in a hood with him?

Shinobi-What's your objection to Texcat kill? Why is she town? I'm tired and can't remember if I asked you that in my last quote wall.

@Ozgin-If you don't want to lynch TSO, do you have a good idea on who you do think is scum today?

Skybird-Same question as Ozgin.

Basically, the three names I listed are my top 3 for scumgroup.

I think RED's flip will peg more associative tells than Mah.

I'm confident that red is the better play long term. Mah is going to trip himself up eventually with the tactics he's using to stay "active". He's focusing on neighborhoods, rather than scumhunting.

Well, he's trying to scum hunt through hoods. Not quite the same thing. It REALLY reminds me hard core of Billi's play in Zed. It's the primary reason he's my #2 scum.

[Quaroath]

Narrowed things down to:

-Red-still not sure why he's town

-Quaroath-sheeping every popular vote

-Mahonster-your recent posts confuse me, you are kind of all over the place

-Lapsa-need some stronger stances on things

-Texcat-not doing anything resembling scumhunting or anything at all really

-And maybe GM-not enough explanation for reads, votes, and entrance still bugs me

-maybe Shinobi but this is the least likely, mostly here because I am having trouble finding good scumreads and he seems defensive about what happened in the hood with the "scumslip" business

Well, I could always vote the non-scummy people if you like.

[Quaroath]

Isn't #1968 a classic scum tell?

I thought about that, but posted anyway. I am by no means classic on this site.

lol @ people listening to the confirmed not town

Still haven't gotten past this.

Wait.. so you thought about it before you posted it.. and still posted it?

That.. actually makes you look worse in my eyes.

[Quaroath]

Ok cool, I don't see how it does.

GM that's not explaining your read.

I do this as scum just so I can say what you said.

[Quaroath]

VOTE: tso there is literally no other play I'm okay with today.

[Quaroath]

Does anyone have questions?

Mahonster had one. seems impossible to you?

That was the question I said was stupid, of course 1 II per team isn't impossible.

Funny that Quaroath called me out on playing like Billi from our last game, because his play right now is the similar in some ways to that game too. When he was scum.

Lurking hard last couple of days.
If scum, likely werewolf from his push on red and I.

Good bus!

Bad bus, cause it's nto a bus.

I'm going to check something real fast.

[Quaroath]

Apparently, Mah is calling me a lurker for working the day (today) the thread opens (Thus the VLA weekends in my profile).
Yesterday, he didn’t vote TSO, just went back to “neighboorhoods, yo!” in two posts, I made one with a vote backing my D2 statement of TSO no matter what day 3.
#welp.

1:1 me Mah. Do it. Now. You willing to die when I flip town? If so.. BRING IT.

[Quaroath]

Funny that Quaroath called me out on playing like Billi from our last game, because his play right now is the similar in some ways to that game too. When he was scum.

Lurking hard last couple of days.
If scum, likely werewolf from his push on red and I.
VOTE: Quaroath

Can everyone post a reads list please? In at least some detail?

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA

Dude, this slip is obscene. You are saying I'm likely Werewolf from my push on the person I'm a partner with that resulted in his lynch, and my push on you.

Which are you, mafia or a WW trying to cover your ass?

WHOOOA DOGGY.

VOTE: Mah

[Quaroath]

i think you're hallucinating. Mah and Red probably aren't on the same team based off their interactions.

MULTIBAAALLLLLLLLLLL

[Quaroath]

Also, Like. Oz is the best lynch.

BUT HOLY FUCK

and i'm not speed lynching oz

[Quaroath]

Ninja'd

Much hate.

[Quaroath]

Dude, this slip is obscene. You are saying I'm likely Werewolf from my push on the person I'm a partner with that resulted in his lynch, and my push on you.

Which are you, mafia or a WW trying to cover your ass?

WHOOOA DOGGY.

Also, scum want that reads list yo - it helps them pick people off.

[Quaroath]

i think you're hallucinating. Mah and Red probably aren't on the same team based off their interactions.

MULTIBAAALLLLLLLLLLL

So we agree

Yes.

I think Mah is on teh mafia side, tbh.

[Quaroath]

Besides which, Scum know who no-one's scumreading - it's called

looking at votecounts

.

This is BS. Getting updated reads lists after two quick b2b days is key for scum to narrow down their best bets to carry the game home.

[Quaroath]

lolololololololololololololol

Also, expound, because you can leap off this fence either way.

[Quaroath]

And also, Quaroath the response you gave to my weak push on you was the exact one I expected scum Quaroath to give.

Point finger at Q.
Q says "TOTAL BULL, LOL LOOK AT THIS GUY".
Q points finger back.
Everyone just walks away.

I've seen this before.

Try not to out meta yourself

[Quaroath]

There's a feeling I have that Firebringer is either ww cop, or bussing maf.

I've thought about this myself - but for now it's not worth taking action on. Then again - if he is, why isn't he just picking off the scum in the night?

It's worth a good thought way down the line.

[Quaroath]

I don't think it's really worth looking at Fire right now. It's a waste of time.

Where's a vote count?

I'm tired of waiting for Oz to not show up.