NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

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hey guys. I know a few people here. im at work right now but i will read and post tonight. maybe even earlier if ur lucky.

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boon my man u r not a popular guy lol

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Haha, hey Lapsa.
Please be town. c:

I don't bite, and will not rip your head off unless I sense you're being deceitful. From a cost-benefit analysis, you have nothing to lose if you're Town, because as Town you should have absolutely no reason to lie to me about anything in this game. Some have told me I have a very sharp sense of perception, and can usually discern traits and patterns in the behaviors of others. You have literally nothing to fear if Town, and everything to fear if Scum, so, by all means, please do engage with me.

man i dont like this post at all. feels very forced tbh

vote: lapsa

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ah

unvote

damn didnt see that thanks for pointing that out

gonna stop phoneposting from work lol. ill be in the thread later tn

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sick wagon
my page 3 vote was on a post i found suspect, i missed the link showing it was a sweet meta reference to another game, would've thought it was suspect in that game too tbh
can't really complain as im usually a fan of early day 1 bandwagons, they get good reactions

Oh excuse me, the game's barely begun. You want me to start jumping through hoops? I'm already becoming annoyed at all the garbage scumreads with no reasoning. This kind of shit ruins games for me. I can't even say anything in response to any of it because it's crap or trolling or whatever the fuck it is.

this post is pretty uncalled for, especially this early in game. take a chill pill dog
especially if u look at his earlier posts where he's all like 'hi! how are you!' and 'welcome to the game redff!'

and then after a post containing such vitriol he comes with this

Are personal comments like that really necessary Wake?

hmm seems like u did that already with post 139 soooooo

You know what. I'm stepping away now.

I'll be back tomorrow.

my son silverwolf was back 2 hours later and is still here

Hi Kop. Hi Zebulin.

Join us why don't you?

prodding is a mods job, and stuff like this is a common scum tactic of looking like you're town without scumhunting or contributing

getting general sus vibes

vote:silverwolfe

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Salamence is really pushing for a random lynch, and not giving any solid reason for the lynch other than "it helps town".

I think he might be scum.

u realize ur on the same wagon as him m8

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186 is terrible. Everything he's scumreading me for is personality/playstyle shit and not scum indicative at all.

how so

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word

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I said might be. I didn't vote for you for a reason. There isn't anything solid against you, but you look slightly suspicious. Not as suspicious as nosferatus (however it's spelled).

UNVOTE: redff
I don't really suspect redff of anything.

u go from finding me slightly suspicious to not suspecting me of anything wtf

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186 is terrible. Everything he's scumreading me for is personality/playstyle shit and not scum indicative at all.

how so

Read your post. Nothing in that is alignment indicative but you insist on using your personal opinion of my personality/playstyle to throw a scumread at me. I don't really give a fuck if you think my posts are uncalled for or if it's the mods job to prod or if I said I was going away and came back. Tell me how that is scum indicative in any way or show me how I don't do that shit in every game I play regardless. Your reasoning is terrible or you are trying to instigate shit because you are scum by focusing on the drama.

The fact that you concentrated solely on me and ignored anyone else on your wagon is a dead giveaway also.

my wagon has nothing to do with my scumread on you. i guess we disagree on what is alignment indicative ay

my wagon is a random early day 1 bandwagon, they happen a lot i usually hop on them (not today obviously because the wagons on me)

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I said might be. I didn't vote for you for a reason. There isn't anything solid against you, but you look slightly suspicious. Not as suspicious as nosferatus (however it's spelled).

UNVOTE: redff
I don't really suspect redff of anything.

hey m8 i just said the exact same thing 6 posts before u, nice try tho
Something in these posts don't jive.

I said might be. I didn't vote for you for a reason. There isn't anything solid against you, but you look slightly suspicious. Not as suspicious as nosferatus (however it's spelled).

UNVOTE: redff
I don't really suspect redff of anything.

u go from finding me slightly suspicious to not suspecting me of anything wtf

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FUCK PEDIT

I said might be. I didn't vote for you for a reason. There isn't anything solid against you, but you look slightly suspicious. Not as suspicious as nosferatus (however it's spelled).

UNVOTE: redff
I don't really suspect redff of anything.

Something in these posts don't jive.

hey m8 i just said the exact same thing 6 posts before u, nice try tho

I said might be. I didn't vote for you for a reason. There isn't anything solid against you, but you look slightly suspicious. Not as suspicious as nosferatus (however it's spelled).

UNVOTE: redff
I don't really suspect redff of anything.

u go from finding me slightly suspicious to not suspecting me of anything wtf

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not PEDIT i mean EDBWOP im still getting back in the swing of things

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Ika, learn to spell better. Also, your claims against SolverWolf are pretty weak.

>learn to spell better
>SolverWolf
Top fucking kek

were not on 4chan mate

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there was definitely scum on my wagon for it to get to that close to going through so early in the day
look at this shit for instance

I'm up for a red flip.
VOTE: red

his second post so far, blatant hop on the 'quicklynch' train, as soon as he was asked why

Because Nos is bussing him, and that looks like scum attempt. My vote is also in accordance with Silver's reasons, and the idea that we need to flip a little instead of sit around and chat nothing forever.

sheeps reasons already given by others

clearly on opportunistic jump on my wagon tbh, rest of his iso has very little content, sus

grayfoxx also has a suspicious vote

UNVOTE: boon
VOTE: redff
Why not

why not indeed
and as soon as my wagon died down a bit grayfoxx was off and voting texcat
then he claimed VT under very little pressure, so that was odd

nos erratic behavior and attitude towards my wagon was sus, and his vote on me seemed forced after pushing against my wagon so hard, even if he claims to have not understood the quicklynch plan

ah

unvote

damn didnt see that thanks for pointing that out

gonna stop phoneposting from work lol. ill be in the thread later tn

Gross

VOTE: redFF

He is letting go of a scumread way too easy here. The slightest push back and he unvotes.

this is a misrep, a vote made on page 3 is not the same as a serious scumread, and i explained my unvote
silverwolfe's defense of wake is also noted, i like ika way more in that interaction
still happy with that vote

Ika, its L-1.

Do your thing

i was not close to l-1 when you posted this, this really seems like an attempt to confuse and incite panic tbh

SW is mafia, i could see grayfoxx and mahooney as scum too rn, rest of the votes on my wagon dont look as obviously bad

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hot damn

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p childish tbh

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why people get so angry over a web based forum mafia game is beyond me

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I've never seen it happen. Show me?

link

damn that is p similar to what happened here tbh

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page 28 shinobi

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read her iso also she got mad as fuck, replaced out, was scum

thats just one game tho

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grayfoxx is bad but his vt claim seemed genuine, could still lynch, seems like hes posting a bit more now

silverwolf is clearly an attention craving drama queen, feel like my read on her is clouded by that
@wolfie im not talking about ongoing games and u shouldnt be either

meta talk is shit and clogs the thread, pointing to past games as reasons for scumreads or townreads or as means of defending yourself is lazy when there is plenty of content from the game we are currently playing to use tbh

setup spec is pointless, we have no information, especially the multiball/singleball talk

reading this thread pissed me off tbh

annadog shopping ikas head on a sheep took more effort than whatever 'scumhunting' she has done this game

vote:annadog

Question for everyone! Who is your top scum read and why? And if you are not voting for your top scum read, why aren't you?

"look how protown i am asking protown questions!" smh

@annadog question for u since skybird is reading u scum, what is your read on skybird? do u think breaking the 'hood code' was scummy?

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Your opinion of me on a personal level, is not relevant at all

i know thats why im reconsidering my scumread on you

i was p busy all weekend, i made like 5 posts in a slower moving game (that is further along and where i am a lot more sure of my reads and what i'm doing than this one) since my last post here, on friday, last ill say on this, if u think its a scumtell then think that i dont really care

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I love how you post the minute I make a post about you when you haven't bothered with this game in days.

this is the time in which i have been able to catch up to the thread, big reach here

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im voting my top scumread, now respond to my question!

as for your 696, nosferatu has been a player who has received attacks all day, ur case on him is stuff that has already been mentioned against him in thread such as his flipfloppoing on my wagon

There is enough in Nosferatu ISO to get them a day one lynch.

strikes me as opportunistic tbh, why not say "there is enough in nosferatu ISO to make them scum"? mite be nothing but could be a little slip

comfortable with my vote

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@annadog question for u since skybird is reading u scum,

Their reading me null not scum.

nope according to skybirds iso he's reading u scum, now answer the question

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ok then,
what is your read on skybird? do u think breaking the 'hood code' was scummy?

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i dont know what you are saying in your neighborhood, last time skybird posted about you in thread skybird had a scumread on you, cool if its different in the hood but how would i know that..

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ok cool

what is your read on skybird? do u think breaking the 'hood code' was scummy?

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Anna is my main scum read

u wanna vote her then?

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Boards of Canada are dope

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kek is orcish for lol in world of warcraft

it has caught on as a way to say lol in various places online

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I'm tempted to townread red for insulting SilverWolf because he's likelier to not give a fuck as town rather than scum.

I completely disagree. I've seen scum get nasty before. Especially when pushed.

except u had already 'replaced' out the game, so i wasn't really getting pushed was I?
i dont think my comment about your replacement fake out was particularly 'nasty', i find your continuous attempts to victimize yourself to be suspicious behavior
your overly emotional play as well as the fact that you have 30 more posts than anyone else at this point is distracting from scumhunting imo

what is your read on skybird? do u think breaking the 'hood code' was scummy?

annadog can u answer this please
she completely dodged this question last time i asked, and has avoided giving any kind of read on skybird, which is suspect considering that they have had time to talk in private
more votes on annadog

i still kinda believe grayfoxx's claim but i cant really defend his play, if he's the day 1 lynch so be it, VI play like his i find hard to read

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will catch up and post tonight

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wake is insane and has scumreads on 3 of the 4 most active players in the thread, the 4th being himself. Can't tell if he's scum or just bad.
annadog is the lynch tbh.
Grayfoxx is prob town. The wagon seems to me like a lot of people are just resigned to lynching a bad player, despite him probably being a VT.

On this note, I'm not running anyone else up to a claim now. GrayFoxxxx is a VT who's lynch will provide us information. He's the best bet, IMO.

shit like this is what im talking about. I don't see how his lynch will provide us information since its a shit wagon on a shit player that ppl have been jumping on with very little reasoning.

@Spiffeh can u tell us what shinobi's scumslip was pls, nobodies gonna get on the wagon if u dont have a case

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Red, Creede and I are in a hood. However, I didn't post in it pregame and only remembered yesterday, so nothing at all has been said there.

i dont have access to our neighborhood, link says im not authorized to view so i assumed it was night talk only, pm'd the mod a while ago to see what the deal is, i'll message him again i guess..

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Did I tell anyone I was having a bad game?

u have a v powerful PR and u claimed it in a fit of rage mid day 1 so its kinda obvious tbh

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How about we don't lynch someone for funsies instead?

"no"

we have like 2 and a half days left, we gotta consolidate and lynch someone

not sure why/how the anna wagon dissipated

i would vote grayfoxx to avoid a no lynch

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Hey guys what's up?

I am the bringer of fire.

Here to lay down a beatdown to mafia

Who are our major suspects?

this game is a shitshow

good luck w/ your reading

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can u add rocky mountain oysters to the food queue pls

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haha gm id hold off on that vote until you get to the claim!

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hahaha XD

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ur gonna have to be more specific

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I have a vote!!!

VOTE: TSO

I am so good at this game.

wow some neighbor on neighbor action here

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my current right now opinion on the current game state is that salamence may have been right all along tbqh

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Kinky, right?

im extremely aroused

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Drop the attitude.

wow

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Drop the attitude.

wow

I've noticed you don't have a lot to say unless it's about me this game. Reading your ISO, it's apparent. Why is that?

i mean u do have 50 posts more than anyone else

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are you posting way too much or is everyone else posting way too little?

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wow why is everyone getting so god damn angry lmao

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Wasn't even a good shit storm lol.

tbh

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dont put him at l-1 boon will quickhammer

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before he gives his reads/final thoughts, that is

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ayyyyyyy

vote:grayfox

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he gave his reads, said it was his last post

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dont put him at l-1 boon will quickhammer

before he gives his reads/final thoughts, that is

Let's let him give his final reads at least before lynching. He's at L-2 right now. Regardless of flip, it will be helpful.

Nah fuck it. I'm going to be lynched, I'm not going to give any reads. Wake is town I guess. TSO is scum.

Get all the info you need from that, and my ISO. I'm not giving up. But if I'm going to be lynched any fucking way then honestly the town deserves to get fucked. Letting scum manipulate this.

Good job scum I hope your on my next scum team. Really.

Town is playing against win con so bad. And TSO throwing his bitch fit and threatening to quit seems affect a few of you.

It's obv nothing I could say, would help me at this point.
I can just hope town isn't this controllable D2.

I should throw out a bunch of random reads just to help scum. They seem to care about this game more than town.

My last post until nightfall. I don't have any hope town will change there misguided ways. If I happen to be alive tommorow, I'll see you then.

TSO is scum.

Let's let him give his final reads at least before lynching. He's at L-2 right now. Regardless of flip, it will be helpful.

Nah fuck it. I'm going to be lynched, I'm not going to give any reads. Wake is town I guess. TSO is scum.

Get all the info you need from that, and my ISO. I'm not giving up. But if I'm going to be lynched any fucking way then honestly the town deserves to get fucked. Letting scum manipulate this.

Good job scum I hope your on my next scum team. Really.

Town is playing against win con so bad. And TSO throwing his bitch fit and threatening to quit seems affect a few of you.

It's obv nothing I could say, would help me at this point.
I can just hope town isn't this controllable D2.

I should throw out a bunch of random reads just to help scum. They seem to care about this game more than town.

My last post until nightfall. I don't have any hope town will change there misguided ways. If I happen to be alive tommorow, I'll see you then.

TSO is scum.

Please share your reads. If you are Town, and I survive, I can attempt repairing the damage they've caused.

What you should do is honestly share the top three people you think are Scum, and why. Should you be Town, that would have value.

TSO
Kop
Mex
Maybe Silver. Maybe Frogg.

There you go. My only town read Is you.

Ok for real last post.

ayyyyyyy

vote:grayfox

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more people should unvote to give tso a chance to claim and defend himself

that said i do believe firebringer

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i think its worth it to go back and look at wake's posts

he suspected TSO, who it looks like is probably scum, shinobi and SW. those people are on my radar.
worth noting with Shinobi that 2 of his neighbors have flipped town, he could very likely be a scum neighbor.

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i dont care if TSO is a survivor or not (thought I don't believe he is), he's not town, he is clearly today's lynch

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tso not fully revealing his role is muddying up the thread with speculation

he claimed SK in our neighborhood

for all we know he could be mafia trying to delay his lynch, he is confirmed anti-town with an anti-town wincon, lets lynch him ay?

TSO has no incentive to help town, there's nothing that indicates he will play to town's wincon apart from his word, and doing so would be against his own wincon.

vote:tso

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ppl are forgetting that tso could just be lying and actually be mafia lol

we are going to have to lynch him eventually

if he's sk he is likely to kill another town player tonight, there are more town players than scum players (and he's been wrong once assuming he shot wake)

he is anti town, dude's gotta go

SW's play so far this game has been erratic to say the least, not sure why she is trying to lynch anything other than the

claimed serial killer

but its not surprising

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lol @lapsa, you vote me even though you don't think we should leave tso alive?
we've only got one lynch
what is "bad town guidance"

tso is either a serial killer or mafia, we should lynch him

say we use him as a "consensus vig", tell him to shoot player x, player x doesnt die, tso claims roleblocked...there's a bunch of dumb shit that can happen, he is obviously the lynch here

we cant trust him, and if he is SK he has already lost and has no incentive to give one flying fuck about anything in this game

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Oh, so TSO is confSK?

he said he was a serial killer, that's not the same as it being confirmed

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when u find scum/3rd party, you lynch scum/3rd party

a cop outed himself, tso is clearly the lynch

pedit: ozgins got it

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TSO is going to play to his wincon until hes dead.

he is either mafia or sk

i am actually inclined to say he us mafia and we have multiball tbh, because of the way he claimed survivor before full claiming sk to our hood, which seemed very manipulative. also the way he led the lynch on gray, a useless player and an easy lynch, seems more scum motivated than the play of a serial killer.

if firebringer had investigated him and gotten the result serial killer then this would be a different conversation.

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I do have one additional question that is nagging me, hopefully someone can help me with-How common is it for a game to have 2 vigs that work on opposite nights AND a SK and a scumteam meaning 3 kills possible every night? I saw it in Ozgin's game, a mini but that was only even-night vig and there was a BP role and a JOAT, etc. to balance things. I guess I want to make sure TSO is not groupscum in a multiball setting here.

there is no way to know unless we lynch tso

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That could be the stupidest response ever.

word

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Side note: if Aero put SK, scum and Cop in the same 'hood then he's a horrible person.

cause he didn't lmao

can't believe people don't want to lynch caught scum

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this wagon on me is cute, as far as i can tell the case on me is "he wants to lynch the claimed anti-town!!! he's scum!!!"

nice

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Don't worry about the Penthouse. Just leave it off the list. Trust me on that one.

???????

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pls explain

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she shouldn't have said something if she didn't want to be asked about it

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VOTE: Redfff

You diverting town from scum.

-Hunting

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I'm fine with Red lynch/Tex shot. If one or both of them isn't scum then fuck me, who is?

TSO????

i would encourage people to read this day again, because TSO first claimed fucking survivor, and then was pressured and questioned on it because survivor's are not normal. after realizing that tactic wouldn't work and no one believed him, he then began softclaiming serial killer, and full claimed it in our neighborhood to try and make me and firebringer trust him i guess? EVER SINCE HE WAS CALLED BULLSHIT ON HIS SURVIVOR CLAIM HE HAS BEEN MAKING THINGS UP AS HE GOES ALONG. TSO's best play here is to encourage a leashing because he survives longer. We are without a doubt going to have to lynch him eventually, and he will keep convincing you all to put it off, as he is doing today and will no doubt try to do tomorrow and the day after that.

all the votes on me are bullshit too, there is no case whatsoever.

silverwolf, i'm almost certain you are town, i would encourage you to look at the wagon on me...
lapsa, mahonster, annadog, quaroath and yourself
is that good company? are those players town? lets look at their votes

(and he's been wrong once assuming he shot wake)

bad town guidance

VOTE: redFF

TSO's "scumhunting" is all smokes and mirrors.
that gives slight towncred for texdog and null for his consequent "reads"

and I disliked SwampCat`s reaction.
felt more like helping TSO materializing his SK claim than figuring it out (afaik she ain't in same hood)

not a fan of leaving TSO alive though.
haven't ever seen SK leashing in action, unaware of risks

@lapsa, what exactly is bad town guidance? that looks like the reason for your vote, could you explain more?
also states he's not a fan of leaving TSO alive, yet votes me, starting a counter wagon?

Makes sense like that. (that was 3 sentences though >.>)

Ok, so yeah I'm going to think about my next vote for just a little bit.
TSO should live for now, now I see how there could be some real benefits. We just need to really discuss the vig choices.

For now,
VOTE: RedFF

next to vote is mahonster. this post has a contradiction IN IT, goes from "im going to think about my next vote for just a little bit" to voting me!

VOTE: Redfff

You diverting town from scum.

-Hunting

next up is this shit. what the fuck does that even mean. i'm not diverting town from hunting scum, i'm trying to lynch caught scum/sk!

VOTE: redff posting from phone, but this is the dir ed crooning want to go today. Here or texcat/mah

and then the final vote on my wagon comes from quaroath, who has been very active and not scummy at all this game /sarcasm


Silverwolf i understand that you think i am scum and have for a while (since my first post in fact lol), but take a step back and look at this wagon and just think for a bit. i believe tso is manipulating this whole town to his own ends, and i will not let it happen.

remember, we cannot be sure what TSO's role is until we

lynch him

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This redFF wagon doesn't really make sense to me.
Where's the case on him, exactly?

there isn't one, people are sheeping SW because she's town, if TSO flips scum instead of sk i expect a buddy or 2 of his is on my wagon
check the post right above yours for the deets

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Actually what I said was to keep people from bringing it up.

I'm cool with my vote.

no one even asked or was worrying about the damn penthouse lol, until you made this post

Don't worry about the Penthouse. Just leave it off the list. Trust me on that one.

i believe you are town so i won't question it anymore but i feel it was pointless to say something like this if you're just gonna call anyone who asks you about it scum.

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I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

ive kind of been caught up on pushing tso so i haven't been thinking about this too much but mahonster annadog and kop are my strong scumreads rn

who do you think is scum shinobi?

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cool cool cool

you should vote tso

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nice

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Red, I didn't contradict myself.

What I meant was that I needed to think about who I'm voting for today.
However in the meantime, I am voting you. We'll see if that changes, with recent activity it probably won't.

why are you voting me

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@mod v/la for a while
driving 300 miles and moving in to a new place, gonna be a hectic few days

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lol @ people listening to the confirmed not town

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I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

ive kind of been caught up on pushing tso so i haven't been thinking about this too much but mahonster annadog and kop are my strong scumreads rn

who do you think is scum shinobi?

Red, I don't think you've ever explained why Mahonster is scum. Could you explain please?

he hasn't had an independent thought this game, done no scumhunting, yesterday he voted for me in his second post, and then on page 20, elaborated on his reasons

My vote on red was full sheep.

Hm.

Could you please share in further detail why exactly you're voting for him?

Um, sheep. As I pointed out with my vote:

1) Nos's general scuminess along with his vote of red.
2) Sheeping silver's reasons.
3) Desire of a quick flip for more information.

woah real nice reasons there man

he parked his vote on me for a while, before quietly unvoting with no reason, he then hopped on the annadog wagon, which I started, it's strange to go from voting one player to voting that players top scumread.

And yeah, I would leave my vote here for now.
VOTE: Anna
Three in a neighborhood, probably one scum, this one's the scummiest.

that is some clearly pro-town scumhunting right there for sure

half of his posts are lists of the known neighborhoods, which would be fine if he had done any scumhunting, but he hasn't! the lists are an easy way to look like he's contributing while actually doing very little.

Ugh fuck me. Gray was obvtown and we should have gone for another scum candidate in a neighborhood.

Hot damn.

4 town bites the dust already. Wow that's bad.

Does this mean multiball for sure? Sk?

And that neighborhood wipe was possibly a really bad play. I'll look at that later.

these posts read as fake frustration

mahonster has made an entire game out of sheeping and buddying silverwolf, and hasn't added one original thought to discussion.
that said, i don't want to lynch him today, but people asked why i have a scumread on him and that is why.

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go a problem with tubo lynching?

The only time I will agree with a turbo lynch, is if they have been confirmed as scum to prevent WIFOM from that slot, in aim to muddy the waters.

I don't agree with turbo lynching is just for the sake of lynching someone.

I'm not a fan of claiming too early, unless your pretty much bang on to be lynched. He claimed well before votes were drawing onto him.

I'm not saying that he is scum based on that, I played in a game with Gray a month or so ago, and I think he got the same attention, and in the end he was policy lynched due to it being near the deadline. I feel that the same is happening again here, I would actually like to see him input some reads, and some of his thoughts instead of ramming his VT claim out there in hope that we believe that.

Spiffeh, let me play devil's advocate for just a moment.

If Anna was scum, why would she post so strangely? I don't see the scum motivation to drawing that much negative attention to oneself

. On the other hand, is there town motivation behind doing that either.

I don't like that argument, that alone I won't/don't buy. If you play scummy, then surely your up for the lynch, regardless of that argument alone.

If we were to use that argument then scum could easily post so scummy nobody wouldn't give it that much attention, as why would scum be that silly?

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Explain all your scumreads?

on kop, he made this post

Whilst I do see what you are saying, it starves us of information going into the night, into what roles can use on over the night. I.E who people suspect for cop roles to investigate, who is the pro town player for doctor to protect, etc etc. And if we want a quick lynch, we could be rush lynching a town PR.

@Kop shit entrance. any reads?

I haven't finished reading through yet. Will post my thoughts once I have fully caught up.

he never posted a caught up "thoughts" post, in fact, in the first 15 posts of his ISO, he literally doesn't state a single read!

go a problem with tubo lynching?

The only time I will agree with a turbo lynch, is if they have been confirmed as scum to prevent WIFOM from that slot, in aim to muddy the waters.

I don't agree with turbo lynching is just for the sake of lynching someone.

I'm not a fan of claiming too early, unless your pretty much bang on to be lynched. He claimed well before votes were drawing onto him.

I'm not saying that he is scum based on that, I played in a game with Gray a month or so ago, and I think he got the same attention, and in the end he was policy lynched due to it being near the deadline. I feel that the same is happening again here, I would actually like to see him input some reads, and some of his thoughts instead of ramming his VT claim out there in hope that we believe that.

Spiffeh, let me play devil's advocate for just a moment.

If Anna was scum, why would she post so strangely? I don't see the scum motivation to drawing that much negative attention to oneself

. On the other hand, is there town motivation behind doing that either.

I don't like that argument, that alone I won't/don't buy. If you play scummy, then surely your up for the lynch, regardless of that argument alone.

If we were to use that argument then scum could easily post so scummy nobody wouldn't give it that much attention, as why would scum be that silly?

posts like these are useless fluff and contribute nothing, and he made 15 of them before he threw down a vote

Besides the more that I think about it all, why is posts about speculations of set up being discussed ON DAY ONE, we haven't seen any of the night actions, which would give us a further insight to what could be in this game. Posts like that, is an attempt to look pro town and your trying to find scum.

VOTE: wake

and here's the vote, he voted wake for setup spec? page 39 and this is what he has for reads...
he then voted anna

VOTE: anna

Let's hope the pressure makes her contribute more, and hopefully with more content to provide that she is town not the weak posts she has made.

i don't believe i need to explain the irony here

that said, i would not want to lynch kop, SW's stance on him means that he should live for a while imo.

as for annadog, i stated my scumread of her yesterday and she has done nothing to change my mind, useless 1 line fluff posts and her vote on me today was just awful.

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Mahonster isn't getting lynched today, you are.

Even if Redff is getting lynched, Mahonster is a candidate for the night kill.

its not a foregone conclusion, scummy post.

TSO and Silverwolf have been bludgeoning the thread with ridiculous levels of activity, (both tso and sw have 85 more posts than anyone else)
TSO has literally been saying the same thing for 20 pages now, over and over again, if you say something enough times then it's gonna start to sound like a good idea
Silverwolf I think considers herself a strong player and is into this leashing idea because she believes it would be a cool and smart play which she could pull off with her superior mafia skills. this is wrong, the smart play is lynching the player the cop got a guilty on.

my v/la period has been taken advantage of by TSO in his insistence to get my lynch. Note that TSO is only out for himself, if the counterwagon to this lynch was on anyone else, he would be pushing them just as hard as he's pushing me, literally any other player in this game. he does not care who town lynches as long as it is not him, he is just out to prolong his life.

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I ask why people are saying he's town or not scum because maybe I'm missing something or in confbias mode and I'd like to be shown where I'm wrong if I am.

i believe you have personal issues with me that are clouding your judgment tbh, read other games i make posts like the "filler" you pointed out often.

The votes on me contain four

highly[/b suspect lurkers, in Red/ika/Kop/texcat. Fucking four of them. Firebringer's vote is a remnant from the start, SilverWolf is voting me out of sheer frustration that no-one is helping her, while Shinobi is crippled by paranoia of NY 180.

yeah and quaroath, mahonster and annadog are voting me lmao, just as bad if not worse

VOTE: TSO

Too much of a distraction and I feel like it interferes with my ability to do anything in this game and scum can easily hide behind it.

you had the right idea here


IT's worth noting that TSO has essentially decided to kill texcat also lol, he can and will try to maniqulate the leash to his own ends.



Here's the deal, we've spent 20 pages now arguing over whether to lynch or leash TSO. The town is split. Say you lynch me today, tomorrow the same argument is going to go on, distract town from scumhunting, and it will go on until TSO is dead. He should most definitely the lynch. Just because I haven't made 100 posts saying this does not mean it isn't true.

i concur with ika that tso is more likely scum than SK too, but we won't know until he's flipped. so lets lynch him now pls.

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at this point if u haven't taken a position and made a vote on me or tso you really should.

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reminder that TSO is confirmed not town. There is 0 reason to believe he is SK apart from taking his word for it. Even if he is SK he is still the lynch.

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@aero can i quote posts from our neighborhood in the main thread?