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OMG DO U QCTUALLY HAVE VIBES ON DATISI OR IS THAT A JOKE-
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my impression of when ur town is that ur kinda good at finding stuff out, but you don't have enough confidence in yourself and your reads, so i think ur mafia gameplay would be kinda similar? i dont think ive ever seen u as mafia before but i think its very possible u would avoid responding to votes because you don't want to make it a "big deal" and the focus of the game, i think as scum u dont want the spotlight even close to u..? i imagine you very timid as scum >.<In post 60, Datisi wrote:do you think me ignoring the votes on me is scummy? why?
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i think ignoring the votes on u is scummy :>-
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i havent seen datisi as scum at all and im not gonna meta readIn post 75, fireisredsir wrote:i don't really think this is an accurate assessment of datisi as scum at all. have you read datisi scum games at all, and if not what made you come to this conclusion?
i came to the conclusion because thats just how i think hes like, he gives very much vibes like hes doubtful in his abilities all the time to do stuff, am i wrong? i thought i remembered a game where he kept doubting his reads and going back and forth on them, but am i remembeing the wrong person?
i think i did that because i felt rushed, i know one of the posts i made at work and the other one while i was crossing the streetIn post 68, Meuh wrote:@Marci what's up with the all caps posting??
i- i- i-
go away.....
stop bullying me...
im not timid as scum... its just when i roll scum its always against people im scared of...
tbh i just generally play timid...
BUT THATS NOT MY POINT
i actually do think ur scum, and i actually do have reasons, but tbh a magician never reveals their secrets unless people ask
I like fey as well, she keeps asking questions and it seems like those questions are her trying to push the game forward so i think shes townyIn post 72, LavarManos wrote:I actually like Fey for bandwagoning to Datisi, but don't really have any opinion on the other votes or anyone else rlly-
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I don't really see why it has to beIn post 84, fireisredsir wrote:and like ok fine you don't have the same meta read as i do thats not scummy, but... i also don't quite get it cause like... you're saying that you think he lacks confidence as town and that you think his mafia game is similar... so why is him not responding to votes more likely to come from scum than town? like whats the difference there that you expect to see?
it sounds like you're saying "you're like this as town" -> "i expect you to be like this as mafia too" -> ??? -> "so the way you acted makes you scum"
and i don't get what the missing step there isso, so, sohard for you to understand what im seeing... but okay!
datisi being town just seems more unlikely, i think theres more benefits for scum him to ignore the votes on him.. whats so hard to understand about it???-
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I wanted to mention that this one I sort of agree with, like I think that it is pretty weird of him to feel the need to pop in and waste a post like thatIn post 81, Kovu wrote:Lukewarm– I hated this entrance. Like, this feels like textbook maf… where you just feel like you HAVE to enter. Cause, entering going “I’m not gonna be around, give me stuff to come back to tomorrow” like, why even enter at all at that point, why NOT wait till tomorrow? And “give me an interesting thread” feels really awkward to me, like, who says that? Cause normally people start complaining when there’s too many posts. Yes, I’m scum leaning Luke off 1 post, the post is that bad.
He obviously wanted to make his presence known!!!
I'm conflicted about thisIn post 81, Kovu wrote:Val89– Terrible entrance, I don’t see how voting Datisi with others is vibes… it’s almost like you were waiting for something like that, then your next post is speculating a mafia role, more often than not, I have found maf is more likely to want to discuss the setup than town here at the start, like if it wasn’t your only “content” I wouldn’t be super concerned, but like, you vote Datisi, and just have no comment there, but instead you wish to comment on a post restricted maf, which is clearly just Mena joking around.. – scum lean
why are these things awkward scum? im sorry i dont really see itIn post 81, Kovu wrote:LavarManos- I really just get awkward scum vibes here, like, you seem scared to take a stance, and you vote someone for “doing too much” like, what? Do you want the thread to be dead?? Why are you squinting your eyes at 50? It was a really good post, you just agree with the terrible 2 votes? Like, seriously, what do you think of Val and Tako. I really want to know, cause if Meuh is scum for doing too much. What about those 2? – definite scum lean
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i think thats what mafia would want to look likeIn post 89, gorilla wrote:
I think he seems unbothered by the votes which suggests he has no hidden guilt, which would be a reason to feel nervous.In post 86, marcistar wrote:
I don't really see why it has to beIn post 84, fireisredsir wrote:and like ok fine you don't have the same meta read as i do thats not scummy, but... i also don't quite get it cause like... you're saying that you think he lacks confidence as town and that you think his mafia game is similar... so why is him not responding to votes more likely to come from scum than town? like whats the difference there that you expect to see?
it sounds like you're saying "you're like this as town" -> "i expect you to be like this as mafia too" -> ??? -> "so the way you acted makes you scum"
and i don't get what the missing step there isso, so, sohard for you to understand what im seeing... but okay!
datisi being town just seems more unlikely, i think theres more benefits for scum him to ignore the votes on him.. whats so hard to understand about it???
this is why i dont explain my reads much im always confusingIn post 90, fireisredsir wrote:
i feel like this doesn't really answer my question at all. you brought it up originally as a meta point. now its just about what would benefit him? like your thought process here is not very clear to me and you're not really explaining itIn post 86, marcistar wrote:I don't really see why it has to be so, so, so hard for you to understand what im seeing... but okay!
datisi being town just seems more unlikely, i think theres more benefits for scum him to ignore the votes on him.. whats so hard to understand about it???
this wasnt even originally my stuff on him
LIKE I THINK THAT BASED ON THE PERSONALITY I THINK HE HAS, I WOULD THINK HE WOULD THINK NOT REACTING TO THE VOTES WOULD BENEFIT HIM AS SCUM. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT HIM AS SCUM BECAUSE HE SEEMS LIKE THE TYPE TO BE A SLIPPERY SNAKE, AND NOT REACTING TO THE VOTES AND NOT MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT WILL MAKE IT SEEM LIKE HES COOL WITH IT, AND NOT MAKING A BIG DEAL OF IT = LESS SPOTLIGHT = LESS DOUBTING
In post 94, Lukewarm wrote:I am incredibly suspicious of Marci voting on page 1 (19), and even doubling down with 56 - because it is my experience that Marci normally holds her vote forever because she does not want to vote until she is sure of her reads (and constantly second guesses reads)
VOTE: MarciSpoiler: even though these posts are not as early on as page one, i feel like theyre both fairly early on as well. which shows how this isn't a good point I think, look through the games if you want, but uhh the second one may be embarassing........ so maybe dont talk about it my ego will be shattered..
I never said it was my original reason for voting him, so why are you trying to say it as such? I thought ppl knew how i do naked votes unless ppl ask me about itIn post 99, Lukewarm wrote:I would like to point out that Marci voted Datisi in post 19 saying "I THINK HE COULD BE SCUM"
But the reason being presented once he became a real wagon was because he was ignoring votes - which distinctly cannot be the reason why she voted him originally in post 19, because Datisi had zero posts between Baltar casting the first vote on Datisi and Marci voting Datisi
DO U REALLY WANNA KNOW IT FEELS EMBARASSING...In post 102, Lukewarm wrote:@Marci why did you think that datisi could be scum as of post 19?
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IDK IF ANY OF MY PROOF WOULD COUNT FOR THISIn post 103, Lukewarm wrote:Also @Marci, have you started participating in RVS and/or early voting in recent games?
but i would say i try to.. but i dont think it happens all the time-
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tbh i didnt even read them LOL i was just iso skimming to find votes that were before post 100In post 115, Lukewarm wrote:
Okay, looked at these two games as well. I don't think that the T3 one compares at all, because T3 appeared to be doing his stick of trying to be the scummiest looking player as early as possible lmao.In post 106, marcistar wrote:Spoiler: even though these posts are not as early on as page one, i feel like theyre both fairly early on as well. which shows how this isn't a good point I think, look through the games if you want, but uhh the second one may be embarassing........ so maybe dont talk about it my ego will be shattered..
But I do kinda see some similarities with the looker one...
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because i didntIn post 119, fireisredsir wrote: ig my question then would be why you didn't mention that original reasoning until now?
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So is there nothing in their readslist that you agree with at all then? I thought the readslist was just meant to generate some diff discussionIn post 120, Rhyme and Reason wrote:
I feel the opposite, for what it's worth.In post 87, gorilla wrote:I'm not sure I have actual thoughts on Kovu dropping a reads wall on page 4 but I admire the spirit. Just don't wear yourself out, kid.
There's almost nothing you can base them on
So they're just making things up, pretty much.
It's gonna make me want to doubt their reads
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I remember dwlee posted like that before, so it just really felt mid imo :/In post 121, fireisredsir wrote: - dwlee 118 doesn't really feel like the dwlee im used to but i agree with most of it? so thats cool i guess-
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how do i feel similar?In post 124, Bell wrote:Tbh tbh, I reflexively town binned Marc for feeling similar to the last time I engaged with them.-
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I do not really like datisis reads!!In post 135, Datisi wrote:VOTE: marcistar
bell - scummy because he doesn't feel like he actually wants to be here
dunn - can be slight town for 50, feels nuanced *enough*
dwlee99 - lack of presence and the quickness of 118 is town.
enchant - dead null.
fey - i think slightly scummy because the convo with me felt more like posting for posting's sake but i am not married to this read
fireisredsir - town.
gammagooey - like both of the votes they've made. don't think they're trying to give off an impression that their posts are more useful than they are. slight town.
gorilla - townie for 92.
kovu - slightly townie for 81 because i don't expect scum!them to enter like that but we'll see how this progresses.
lady lambdadelta - null.
lavarmanos - slightly scummy maybe? my eyes are glazing over reading these posts. idk jury's still out.
lukewarm - mostly doesn't make my stomach turn so can be town for now. 101 is slightly sus but otherwise all ok.
marcistar - lol scum
meuh - 63 felt too tryhardy, the points on me in 79 feel off, and the "haha i am glad to be town!! and solving!!" is forced
rhyme and reason - 120 feels kinda townie idk why call it vibes. i wanna see mena freak out that i'm townreading his slot for nonsense ok.
sircakez - slightly SLIGHTLY townie for 13 because i like the tone but it's like. 0,01% more townie than random.
takotsubo syndrome - i feel like voting someone then plain unvoting because hurr durr reaction test is not very likely to come from scum? like scum would have some sorta bigger trajectory there. can be town for now.
val89 - my eyes glazed over 131 so into the scumbin you go
vp baltar - deadass no clue what to think here, ask me later
town (from towniest to least townie): fire, dwlee99, luke, gamma, gorilla, takotsubo, rnr, kovu, dunn, sircakez
void (no order): enchant, ladyld, vpb
scum (from scummiest to least scummy): marci, bell, meuh, val89, fey, lavar
cheers
i dont think fey seemed scummy, i like what she posted so far she looks like shes trying to solve
i dont think gammagooey is "slight town", i dont think the posts theyve made is really like super helpful yet.
his read on me is i think datisis like the devil rn since hes not really trying to make me see the light of things (if im wrong), and instead hes just saying its scummy. i think hes trying to shut me down because its easy and he doesnt want his haters around.. it seems like more hes trying to convince everyone else instead of trying to collaborate with me...
i also *shocker here* dont agree with meuh feeling off yet, i think she hasnt done much alignment indicative yet and i think ur hating on her for her basic personality
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does it matter much? it feels like very nitpicky to talk about typing styleIn post 134, Dunnstral wrote:Why is MarcI using sporadic caps lock in post 106?
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oh.. i feel like vals usually a bit like that. hes also very stubborn with thingsIn post 138, Datisi wrote:
exactly what i said. if i feel like i'm reading your post and i am reading too many words that don't seem directly related to solving the game and are instead looking like they're filler, that's bad.In post 137, Val89 wrote:What exactly is it you mean by your eyes glazing over, with respect to both myself and lavarmanos?-
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Alot of the posts you've been making i feel like are very nonwelcoming for responses I feel like you dont *actually* care about what I say, i feel like you're just being agressive to me even though im trying my best to read you... I dont really think you asking me questions is trying to make me see the light of things... why arent you trying to point out proof of why i have to be wrong instead?In post 151, Datisi wrote:
you mean like when i asked you to explain how did you come around to something being definitely a scum thing for me based on nothing but your speculations about my personality? or like when i asked whether you are actually genuinely serious on scumreading me for voting a person fire also voted? when i tried to engage with you on why you were dismissing other people sarcastically when your points weren't clear? and you didn't bother to respond to any of that and instead went straight to attacking my reads? none of that happened?In post 148, marcistar wrote:hes not really trying to make me see the light of things
You cant deny "is this a joke" is a nonwelcoming thing... how was i meant to respond to that? It obviously made me feel like my line of thinking is not good in your eyes, so to me it just looks like u were trying to agressivly make me shut up..
i know im not really good at explaining things but it doesnt really look like youve wanted to help me at all..
When did I ever dismiss anyone sacrastically, and when did you try to talk to me about it? I don't remember it.-
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I'll respond to stuff later cuz I'll be busy but I'll say this
Kouvu or whoever was saying shit abt my small posts,
106, 117 were my last posts before i slept. i posted them on laptop, i generally have an easier time posting on laptop.
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based on how i usually play, didnt think it would be an issue since I doubt ill reach 100 posts for d1, but if its such an issue i can just not ppst again until 4 or 5pm idk when hes done with it.-
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how was that dismissing i was trying to talk it outIn post 159, Datisi wrote:^^ dismissing fire for not understanding a point you did not explain well, at best
where have you pointed something of mine out and specifically said "thats scummy"? all I can find is you responding to stuff of mine by asking shading it, but you've never specifically said its suspicious.In post 159, Datisi wrote:i'm not inviting, no. but i said what i find to be scummy posts from you and it's on you to try to change my view. i don't plan on begging you to explain yourself to me because i don't think you're approaching me in good faith at all.
i think ur just trying to skirt around the truth that im the most innocent angel to ever grace this planet...
Are you just trying to make me feel small by outyelling me..? Is that ur goal devil datisi..?In post 159, Datisi wrote:"why arent you trying to point out proof of why i have to be wrong instead?" your reasons for scumreading me are (1) i voted someone fire voted and (2) weird speculation about my personality. i have yno way to respond to (1) because that's not why i voted vpb but i'm obviously going to say that. and there are a shit-ton of other reasons why someone would vote someone in rvs to the point i don't believe that to actually be a genuine read from you. and (2), i asked you why you came to the conclusions you did about my personality and translated it into a scumread? you ignored it?
why cant it be a genuine read from me? my vote was like page one, i just explained my reasons later so whats so impossible of those being actual genuine reasons? I think you just want to shade me and get me miselimated because i'm an easy target. (:
whys it impossible for u to just understand that I think that way of ur personality because i justdo? Do you think I don't have experience talking with liars at all?
I think ur just assuming I have more confidence than i actually do.In post 159, Datisi wrote:before you ask where:
like, the confidence and annoyance you're showing about your reads grossly mismatch the actual confidence you should have and the quality of those reads.In post 133, Datisi wrote:
and i would not do this as town... because...? like if you think i as town am insecure and doubting myself, why wouldn't i respond the same way as town? like, this whole explanation goes from how you've seen me as town, making conclusions about my personality, then attributing those conclusions to my scumgame as opposed to my towngame for ??? reasonsIn post 106, marcistar wrote:LIKE I THINK THAT BASED ON THE PERSONALITY I THINK HE HAS, I WOULD THINK HE WOULD THINK NOT REACTING TO THE VOTES WOULD BENEFIT HIM AS SCUM. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT HIM AS SCUM BECAUSE HE SEEMS LIKE THE TYPE TO BE A SLIPPERY SNAKE, AND NOT REACTING TO THE VOTES AND NOT MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT WILL MAKE IT SEEM LIKE HES COOL WITH IT, AND NOT MAKING A BIG DEAL OF IT = LESS SPOTLIGHT = LESS DOUBTING
I wasn't trying to say "having different reads is scummy" but people keep framing it as so, so I guess we'll just say whenever I reply to anything datisi posts im just pointing out a reason i scumread him :shrug:In post 160, Datisi wrote:ALSO, the post where you criticize my reads
saying i'm "hating" on someone because i said they might be scum 6 pages into a game is a little bit over the top, no?In post 148, marcistar wrote:i think ur hating on her for her basic personality
and a lot of your points against me are "i don't agree here i don't agree there" and it's framed as if i'm scummy but why is having different reads scummy? like, the only instance where you actually explained why i might be scum for my reads is for my read on you, and i already said my problems with it so i don't feel like repeating myself but yeah
what i was trying to do, was say i don't agree and have an ACTUAL DISCUSSION with you but guess not!!
"hating on someone" is just the way i usually phrase things like that, i didn't mean for it to be so deep of a meaning just the dislike meaning.
i dont have thoughts on bell rn which is why i dont talk about him (:: i think he is usually just more invisible than other players, i can't really deny that "bell doesnt want to be here" is a pov someone might reasonably have, but i just personally don't think that way. pressure on him rn isn't theIn post 161, Gammagooey wrote:but what do you think about Bell since they're Datisi's 2nd highest scumread? Also, do you have another player you think is particularly scummy aside from Datisi at this point?worstthing, but i think pressure on others is more benefical because bell will prob just come along eventually.
maybe gorilla, i think they're a capable player whos holding back like <92, 104> i think they could easily be going harder and getting more juicy info, but it doesn't really seem like they want to do that, which scum could do that? like scum dont want the game to move forward.
maybe sircakez but thats because i don't like his starting post.
theres like more people that i wouldn't mind more content from, because i don't remember them at all, but I think thats because me and datisi stole the spotlight of the game.
i thinkifdatisi is town that scums sitting back and just letting this fight happen. it would explain why i cant remember anyone else
so selfish....... me scumreading someone is a sign of my friendship with them obviously.... you don't want me to be friends with datisi..?In post 162, Meuh wrote:Also, Marci going against a scumread on me? That’s new. I was expecting her to scumread me by now
rude... im not new.... im the best player ever....In post 191, fireisredsir wrote:still sus of marci, a lot of that early stuff about datisi is just... i have a hard time seeing it coming from a town mindset. but also like... no offense marci, but she seems clearly new. sometimes i have a hard time understanding the thought process of newer players. and like, i agree with the points for why she's scummy, but idk, some of the people jumping on her feel a bit opportunistic? and it sketches me out a bit. probably overthinking here but whatever
who is it who feels opportunistic for "jumping on me" here?
well what if i dislike your dislike of my dislike of datisis readsIn post 199, Dwlee99 wrote:Gonna
UNVOTE: Baltar
VOTE: Marci
Cause it seems it's gaining more steam and I dislike her dislike of Datisi's reads
is it all of it that you dont like or only certain spots?
why would i want to keep going as scum though?In post 203, VP Baltar wrote:Now, could be Marci is just a townie who decided to over justify a vote and didn't really think a lot about what she was saying, but she also could be scum here. Double downs aren't always easy to read, but I don't think Marci has responded coherently to pressure, and if she is town, she could have just admitted it was kind if a bullshit vote and not actually that serious.
i dont play large games often, but when i do it sure is a party isnt it?In post 204, Lukewarm wrote:So, seeing her suddenly have a page 1 RVS vote, and then double down on it, and then not be able to tell me why she even thinks it in a way that makes sense to me seemed really off.-
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they make sense to me though..?In post 214, VP Baltar wrote:Your reasons don't actually make sense though....
so im just a nuisance then?In post 214, VP Baltar wrote:As far as why you'd keep this going as scum, I don't think that was your intention. I think you thought you were giving credible explanations for the SRSVOTE, and basically no one thinks those explanations are good. The question is if you'd try to bullshit your way out of pressure as town.
? whats this meanIn post 215, VP Baltar wrote:Semi worried this is a noraa situation though.-
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It might be a shock to some people, but i can actually change my mind sometimes!!!!In post 266, Lukewarm wrote:
What changed? We you not just shooting down someone's scum read on her?In post 264, marcistar wrote:meuh needs to have more scumreads imo
i decided to open up her iso actually, and then i read, and then i was like "this is mostly townreading people" and "her vote on you looked like bandwagon"In post 285, LavarManos wrote:
Why did this suddenly occur to you?In post 264, marcistar wrote:meuh needs to have more scumreads imo
I find this a bit townie because it seems so out of the blue (not rlly bc meuh), but still why
i haven't really paid attention to rhyme and reason that much, they aren't completely dead like some of those other names imo but nothing theyve done has really screamed yet, yknow? what do you see wrong with them rn?In post 274, Meuh wrote:I think there’s scum (probably like 2) in tako/Enchant/Lambda/Lavar/RR/Val. I’m getting a lot of townie vibes from the general activity of the game if that makes any sense? and those are the 6 that either haven’t said much or haven’t done that much that stuck to me as indicative of much.
dw ill help uIn post 274, Meuh wrote:You could also be scum but like I said before, that’s not something I’m particularly keen on figuring out at the moment
im not scum, there u go
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I think the last few pages have been a bit of a mess, and idk what to think about it.. enchants prob just making excuses so that he doesnt have to post tho LMAO
vip balter does make a goodish point about bell in 404, i feel like bell has mostly been focused on townreading people instead of really trying to find scum, but everyone is like jumping at him so hard im not sure about if i want to vote for him i feel so bad for him i think bell is a pretty easy elim for people to be trying to achieve here, so maybe vip balter being so focused on it isnt such a great look for him.
i just... keep forgetting about vals posts, idk what hes on about rn, it seems like he thinks that kovu has something against him, which i dont think it looks like kovu does but i think vals just overimagining things. i think that kind of awareness could be either or for val, i dont think i've ever really seen his scumgame though. looking back on him, 177 is the only post that really stands out to me about him.-
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mmhmm, i get this..In post 418, Meuh wrote:
I feel about the same as you about them, which is why they're in my POEIn post 417, marcistar wrote:
i haven't really paid attention to rhyme and reason that much, they aren't completely dead like some of those other names imo but nothing theyve done has really screamed yet, yknow? what do you see wrong with them rn?In post 274, Meuh wrote:I think there’s scum (probably like 2) in tako/Enchant/Lambda/Lavar/RR/Val. I’m getting a lot of townie vibes from the general activity of the game if that makes any sense? and those are the 6 that either haven’t said much or haven’t done that much that stuck to me as indicative of much.
This game feels town-led so the slots that aren't involved much feel like they have high scum equity
I feel similar about Val than about RR (though Val has done more I think, it just hasn't stuck to me)
i honestly don't think that val would be able to "keep up the act" for long if he was scum.-
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dw bell, his scumbuddies prob just warned him his name was brought up a few timesIn post 431, Bell wrote:Uh, if you're starting with "This won't be real content" just wait. If you're on V/LA.
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can i even say fully what im thinking? it feels mean..In post 441, SirCakez wrote:
what was even wrong with my opening post?? I thought it was funnyIn post 213, marcistar wrote:maybe sircakez but thats because i don't like his starting post.
all ill say is that it seems like u were premaking excusesIn post 13, SirCakez wrote:I'm hoarding all my posts this game so their value goes up
it is funny yes, it makes it seem like ur playing both stocks and mafia at the same time but yeah
and why did u need to say u r?In post 443, Enchant wrote:
Because i am PR tooIn post 440, marcistar wrote:why do you need to know what bells pr is enchant -.-
i still dont know why u would need to know what bell is r u hoping to catch him out in a lie or smtn? i don't see the goal of this otherwise..-
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ugh why are you so obsessed with me
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did u miss that whole ass discussion me and luke had about my voting tendenciesIn post 698, VP Baltar wrote:It's wild af that this is marci's one and only vote all game.
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this game is the closest thing i can remember
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datisi, datisi, datisi, datisi, and datisiIn post 706, fireisredsir wrote:
who do you scumread besides datisi?In post 705, marcistar wrote:did u miss that whole ass discussion me and luke had about my voting tendencies
sircakez
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so true bestieIn post 703, Datisi wrote:but baltar, it's because i'm the devil, why would she unvote me
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Datisis posts are very mean spirited by nature,In post 712, Dunnstral wrote:
Which is what?In post 711, marcistar wrote:i dont scumread you for that anymore, i have diff reasons now!!
i think hes overly self aware too, to the point where its scummy!! like hes like oH iM jUsT aWkWaRd!! but like DOES THAT NOT SOUND LIKE EXCUSES? like once is eh enough, but i remember him doing that more than once so its certainly eyebrow raising!!
i think him attacking me and val is v sketchy too, in the way he did it, hes kinda reminiscent of this one dude i met before. even tho i know they cant be the same person i see it as a viable scum strategy. Like i said before, datisis goal this game is just to outscream anyone scumreading him, thats why it reminds me of him. Hes convincing just like this dude was, but deep down i KNOW its same vibes!! is it not obvious?!?!? because of datisis BANSHEE SCREAMS u guys dont want to oppose him, but very clearly im not scared of the devil (:
Devil Datisi keeps jumping to the worst conclusisons possible without trying to see the otherside of things, he isnt looking at the full picture so thats scummy.
He also keeps bandwagoning otherpeoples votes, i think its just to be buddy buddy with them and make himself look cool and good in their eyes, hes obviously set himself up to succeed and YALL ARE JUST BIASED!! The easiest votes in the world which is what hes been doing all game, is not *that* hard for scum to make.
very clearly using bad logic wHy ArE yOu UsInG tHe NoTeS pT bAltEr?!?!? yDrAsSeS uSuAlLy mOrE eXcItEd As ToWn!@ LIKE HOWS THAT NOT CLEAR BS
YALL HATE ON MY REASONINGS BUT DONT HATE ON HIS BS?!??!?! HE OBVIOUSLY SEDUCED U ALL, UR ALL UNDER HIS CHARM!!-
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i dont remember ur scumgame that well but i remember usually when ur town u have alot of stuff but when i think about u this game my memories failing, i dont think uve gone out of ur way that much like u usually do as townIn post 729, Lukewarm wrote:
Does this mean that you expect my posts to make you go ": O" if I am town, and you don't expect to see any posts that make you go ": O" if I am scum? lolIn post 708, marcistar wrote:
datisi, datisi, datisi, datisi, and datisiIn post 706, fireisredsir wrote:
who do you scumread besides datisi?In post 705, marcistar wrote:did u miss that whole ass discussion me and luke had about my voting tendencies
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imi thats not enough reason to townread someoneIn post 739, Kovu wrote:and on another note I think I tr RR, like, that's the 1 slot to not call me town lol and like all these other people automatically calling me town know I'm capable of posting all of what I've posted thus far as scum, like, I don't think I'm an easy person to just call town, but like, when VP called me scum it was "under the condition bell flips scum then we look at kovu" like, that is probably the worst way to make reads, like, as I've learned, we don't plan on chaining lims or whatever, so instead of how VP called me scum, we have RR just flat out "kovu might be" and I like that-
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IKRIn post 746, Meuh wrote:
Marci ur so funnyIn post 709, marcistar wrote:
so true bestieIn post 703, Datisi wrote:but baltar, it's because i'm the devil, why would she unvote me
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iirc ive seen her do the bare minimum and then pick it up more in the following days but pressuring her will be.. interesting.. i think? like not in regards to interesting for her but yeahIn post 753, Kovu wrote:I really think this is a good option, definitely at least worth putting pressure here. like, ~ 50 hours REMAINING, and there is still nothing from LLD, she was sure to tell us she was back (to answer the prod...) but there's 0 content. if anyone can find a town!LLD game where she did nothing... lol I'm pretty certain that doesn't exist-
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am i past it orIn post 922, Lukewarm wrote:Marci, what did you think of my Val case?
LIKE WHAT POST IA IT IN-
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Why are you so convinced im such a noob town? I'm not. I've never really been the type of person to go all in on a read and force people into my mindset, im not convincing enough to do that, im not confident enough in my reads to bash anyone defending my big scumread, and i know attacking people who are in love with datisi could very easily be wrong as he couldve seduced town into doing his every wish.In post 756, Gammagooey wrote:I'm pretty surprised I'm not more on marci's radar/scumreads atm - I've been if not defending Datisi himself directly, pretty present in both generally agreeing with him+his reads and in telling Val that I think the reason he's scumreading Datisi is garbo, and it just feels pretty disconnected from her reading Datisi as scum so strongly. Plus I'm used to a more frantic energy from newish town players who have that level of confidence in a read - throwing other possible people that could be scum with the person they're 100% scum on, either attacking the people scumreading them for being other possible scum or throwing up walls that include one or both of "I'm not scum because meta reasons"/"This post from my scum read makes me think even more that they're scum and I don't get why nobody else sees it". Like I think the smug snipes at people and her last post of "oh yeah there are more/other reasons now" and the general tone she's presenting here is more likely to come from scum than town in her position.
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wow so now i cant sleepIn post 760, Datisi wrote:can we instead vote marci who weirdly dipped out the thread the second they were asked what their read on me was consisted of-
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I've been giving reads so clearly the devil is just blindIn post 764, Bell wrote:Is this true Marci? do you have no reads this game and just floated by?
Is that normal for you day 1?
What's different this game compared to those if not and what's the same?
What are you thinking about this game?
Who oo you think is town nd who do you think is scum?
@Lukewarm: Where is Marci in your reads right now?
also how convenient it is!! he hasnt asked me for my opinions on anyone certain... which he could always do if he was ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE ME
theres been games where i just float by and just talk until i get something i feel in my soul. like one time someone told me it was sus for me to actually be serious about a game cuz they thought i was only a meme player ::(((
it depends on the sorta mood im in i think tbhs
i dont have alot of time to like type up thoughts since im at work for like another 4 hrs, and then ill be sleeping but if u have anything ur curious abt u can juat ask (:
i think gammagooey has a couple of agreeable takes but they piss me off so dont tell them i said that im not sure what i think of them tho aince the agreeable takes are v basic takes
i think kouvs town but i wouldnt trust them leading anything because theyre too emotional about things and too reactivey
balters i would say how self centered he is, i dont like that, so he scummy
fey towny
sircakez scummy, the bandwagoning is not good vibes at all
i dont like vals view of the invixtus mechanic because it reminds me of a diff game i played w him, but otherwise hes mid, he has some good thoughts
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do you think i read back on my own scumgames? i dont.. what happens is that i erase most of it from my memory thoIn post 765, Bell wrote:What makes you town this game Marci? What have you done here that scum you wouldn't have done, or what would you have done as scum that you didn't do here?
a key detail to the marcistar scumgames is how emotional i let myself get,
like in a way of "idontmeantobutimtoonervoustohidetheseemotions" sorta way. thats why i erase my scumgames from my memory i think, i dont enjoy remembering all my emotional breakdowns.
i think during all my scumgames ive legit cried for some reason, but i havent cried here so like :shrug:
so like i think the main reason i get emotional is because of.. im not good when pressured yknow? its always been that way
i think the way i have my reads this game is pretty different than my acumgames, i think if i was scum i wouldve tried to backdown at the first sign of protest to my datisi read, instead of continuing going fullsteam forward. i dont enjoy having the spotlight as scum ahahah so i dont make reads thatll get *big scary players* mad usually i feel like.
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1. "attacking vpb a lot" where tf did i do this? i dont remember having a grrr moment about him until recently wtfIn post 775, LavarManos wrote:Nah I disagree. Feels like she has been attacking Datisi and VPB a lot. You aren't even calling her scum anymore. I scumread her recent posting style too.
VOTE: Marci
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just be thankful im not attaching a skskkskskks or a kpop song to ever post...In post 784, Lukewarm wrote:
Gifs, emojis, caps, and exclamation marks are all consistently marci's posting style regardless of her alignment.In post 777, LavarManos wrote:idts-
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why do you think my elim is bad meuh? last i heard u didnt wanna try to read me?In post 822, Meuh wrote:Marci lim is bad so this is fun-
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why dont u try asking me for reads ur just pressed for no reason..In post 865, SirCakez wrote:
Marci isn't even trying to scum hunt look back at this postIn post 708, marcistar wrote:
datisi, datisi, datisi, datisi, and datisiIn post 706, fireisredsir wrote:
who do you scumread besides datisi?In post 705, marcistar wrote:did u miss that whole ass discussion me and luke had about my voting tendencies
sircakez
maybe luke idk i feel like even though i have a bad memory, i feel like nothing has really made me go ": O" in his posts
She has developed nothing all game except for her repeated attacks on Datisi and me. I don't believe she's actually scum hunting.
873 idk who this is in their hydra, but i like ur thoughts!!!
131 - Is long. Like really long. The entirety of the content of that post boils down to :
-Datisi felt off early.
-looking at the wagon building fast, making an either/or scenario that datisi is either scum or scum jumped on the wagon.
-Then arbitraily discounting the idea that scum jumped on the wagon.
i dont think this is uncharacteristic of val
Despite the length of 131, there is absolutely nothing about any other slot in the game other then Datisi and trying to keep the datisi wagon strong. All while saying that he can't articulate why he thinks that datisi is scum.
again, not uncharacteristic of val. remember when u 1v1d him and i just sat there and watched :person_standing:
hes a stubborn person
The final line: "Apologises to those who dislike wall posts, but I not sure of the alternative here." struck me as odd. It is self concious of the fact that he is wall posting, while saying that that is the only option this game (I infer because of post restrictions), but this is not multiple ideas that would normally seperated into different posts that have been condensed into 1 beacuse of the restriction.
this one makes sense, being kinda aware is scummy i think most of the time, but if he was REALLY worried wouldnt he have actually broke the post up like you say here?
137-139-143 are all explicitly limited to defending himself from datisi (rightfully) calling out that val's 131 post appears heavily fluffed.
this though, stands out as something different from the town val i remember, i dont think hes usually cautious of defending himself against scumreads, am i remembering wrong? i thought in u and vals fight he was offering himself up if we would go after u after as well?
There is also a lack of critical thinking on what he is saying here.
"Still skimming, but is anyone else getting the feeling from the last couple of pages that Kovu really wants someone to scumread me for a lack of activity"
i think this is a valid thing to note down, its something that stood out to me as well.
i think ur case is decent, but i still dont think its enough for me to fall in love with it.
anyone, literally anyone.In post 930, fireisredsir wrote:
what does this mean? who are these people who are "certain" that you would expect him to ask you about?In post 928, marcistar wrote:also how convenient it is!! he hasnt asked me for my opinions on anyone certain... which he could always do if he was ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE ME
but he prefers to just frame it like i dont have any reads at all so :shrug:
In post 931, Val89 wrote:Am I missing something, or there is a different game I don't remember off the top of my head?Spoiler: i wouldnt be surprised if you forgot about the game..
the reason it reminds me of similar vibez, is how you didnt give reads in that game, and you arent giving that many in this game.
im v sure i was in my mind like "im gonna do something that aligns with vals reads since hes town!!" during that game, but when u refused to give reads i just yoloed it, so i think not talking stuff out was the death of you that game, and i think the vibes say it may be the death of u this game.
chat with me pleaseIn post 933, Gammagooey wrote:You could probably guess but I vastly prefer the marci wagon to Lavar's
Like the only reason I could get for people voting him is that his posting is a little stilted and that his self-admitted tinfoil of Datisi & Marci being scum together is bad. Like he knows nobody's going to agree with it, that's why he said it's tinfoil, and I still think his early posts were good with him flatly saying what he thinks but being open to looking at other things/potentially being wrong about early reads.
ur becoming annoying
In post 950, LavarManos wrote:I'm reversing my read on marci. Everyone wanting to wagon for the sake of having dueling wagons should explain why?
VOTE: Datisi as a placeholder
cake evil cake evilIn post 980, SirCakez wrote:If I was scum here I would have dived on Lavar ages ago regardless of his alignment
ill fix that rq for uIn post 984, SirCakez wrote:
Look at this y'allIn post 952, Prism wrote:Datisi (2) marcistar (19), LavarManos (950)
Marci is still on her page 1 vote and day 1 is almost over
She is not even really scumhunting
UNVOTE:
#scumbuddies4lyfeIn post 1019, gorilla wrote:
I don't feel like we...learn anything from wagoning Enchant. Basically everyone can argue it as a justifiable kill, it doesn't force anyone to take strong stances. Basically the type of player that is ideal vig fodder in regular games.In post 1017, Gammagooey wrote:after a quick skim I like Dwlee's 2nd and 3rd posts but basically nothing else there is good
I currently choose to embrace cheekiness for a few hours but I would vote Dwlee over Lavar too if nobody is on board with this
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