TFT uPick [Game over!]

[MeekMeerkat]

This is very easy so far.

Dunnstral is town

[MeekMeerkat]

NDMath is town

VOTE: Nomsy

[MeekMeerkat]

Nomsy does not hide their last visit activity on their profile.

The following players do hide that information on their profiles:

tictac
Dunnstral
Malakittens
Titus
Frogsterking
Vivax
Sara
Enchant
beeboy
Toogeloo

The following players do not:

mastina
Fredrick A Campbell
Yume
NDMath
SirCakez
Gamma Emerald
MeekMeerkat

Further sorting out players and I don't think that mastina, Yume, NDMath, or SirCakez would make that post. This makes me think that Nomsy is controlled by one of Fredrick A Campbell, Gamma Emerald, or MeekMeerkat.

Nomsy spoke a German phrase, so I searched those 3 isos for the word 'German'. Gamma Emerald is the only one who returned a hit

Spoiler:

Lol nice
For a second I thought was German and then I realized it’s wagen not vogn in German

Just something to think about. I guess it's possible that Nomsy is not hiding their activity for a different reason and I'm off base.

Normally, I'd hate this as rolefishing but I think Nomsy is scum sooo

@titus, vote with me!

[MeekMeerkat]

hii <3

quick duble pop in.

my identity is on a need to know basis

its potential misdirection for dunn to lead u all on a wild goose chase toward my identity. i not town read dunn for their big post at all.

its also susp for titus to be egging it on by implying im scum

on what grounds does she even make that claim that im scum? looks like misdirection to me. she has no info to imply that.

+ susp for both titus and dunn on page 1

maybe more susp on titus, because at least dunn show some convicsion (sp?) in writing the big post. maybe dunn town and titus jump in opportunity to decieve. because titus also mention role fishing, so titis shade me and dunn at the same time and didnt vote or anything.

VOTE: titus

okay byebye

OMGUS on pg1? More votes here pls

[MeekMeerkat]

What I'm getting at is that they're not a real player, they seem to be a second account for somebody else. So I don't see how voting for the Nomsy account is helpful. I think the likely outcome of voting them out is that the Nomsy account simply stops being able to post/vote/use any other abilities.

I think that post 18 is too early to say that Nomsy is scum.

“Voting Nomsy is pointless because all it would do is kill and flip the slot”
? Then it’s not pointless ?

I don’t yet find anyone scummier than Nomsy.

[MeekMeerkat]

Yume - null/town
Frogster - town

Yume null/town how?

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: Sara is my new strongest scumread (post/content ratio + bad vote)

[MeekMeerkat]

Half of you seem a bit scummy for popping in without playing, but that might be too many scum.

I townread dunnstral, titus, and frederick. I townlean NDMath. I'm tempted to townread enchant and vivax off tone, but have no real confidence there.


I'm probably trying too hard. This is supposed to be my low-effort alt. Okay bye

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: Toogeloo

[MeekMeerkat]

HEAL: Best friends because from Dunnstral's explanation I would guess it helps 2 people instead of 1. Share the love

mastina v malakittens is interesting. I'm leaning s/s or t/t over t/s. Easy theatre, or mastina's overthinking. Too early to say anything about it for sure, though

[MeekMeerkat]

who is Guillotina?

is anyone townreading sara?

[MeekMeerkat]

Gamma's comment about Enchant seems like it comes from town, even though I don't understand it

mastina can you explain why sara is a townread? I'm not seeing it

[MeekMeerkat]

Spoiler: doing this because its fun, tho I doubt it will help much

Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 2

"Take charge" = 2

"Make people feel welcome" = 4

"Like music" = 4

"Like to tidy up" = 2

"Like to visit new places" = 5

"Feel comfortable around people" = 4

"Interested in many things" = 5

"Love order and regularity" = 3

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 3

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 3

"Cheer people up" = 4

"Lose my temper" = 1

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 5

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5

"Cheat to get ahead" = 2

"Feel desperate" = 1

"Rarely overindulge" = 3

"Easily resist temptations" = 3

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 3

"Waste my time" = 4

"Need a push to get started" = 3

"Have little to contribute" = 1

"Keep my cool" = 5

"Avoid crowds" = 3

"Turn my back on others" = 1

[MeekMeerkat]

I'm feeling the absence of genuine Town Hunters in this game. I could use more Town reads from the following players I town lean.


Town leans:
Fred, Dunn, Mala, Gamma, Toogle, Meerkat,

Null/scum: rest

I think Titus is town. Why is Toogeloo town?

[MeekMeerkat]

the things you've noticed are NAI for Sara, Meerkat, and that she can be Townleaned for her efforts.

Efforts?

[MeekMeerkat]

I'm not really sure if voting Best Friends is the right play for my game though.

Also, I'm not getting any town vibes from mastina yet, and really, this whole back and forth between her and Fred is starting to feel theatrical.

"theatrical", yes. Not sure that's AI for these particular players

[MeekMeerkat]

@Enchant

I understand you have your principles, I think it would be fun to see how you describe yourself though?

@Meerkat

I had this brief interaction with Toogleoo I'm Town leaning them for. I'm thinking each of these posts is slightly more likely to come from Town.

Allegedly you have some ability to read mastina so I'm curious if you've seen anything yet that indicates..anything.

I'm currently awaiting more information. The current posting style is masking some aspects of how I read mastina difficult, but I doubt this is a post restriction though. She's just being memey and loud and posting reads lists if you strip away all the CAPS stuff though, so really, not much different than what I'd expect from early game mastina. I want to see what happens in a couple days though, whether she leads pushes, who she's pushing, whether she disappears for days at a time, etc...

Of course, if mastina is town and I'm scum, I could just say, "Oh, mastina is town, look how good I read her!"

You can townread them if you want, lol. I'd assume your reads are capable of being fluid and able to change as you get new information >.>

I disagree that these Toogeloo posts are towny. All read as very hedge-y (nervous to stake a claim, perhaps)

[MeekMeerkat]

@Sara, vote Toogeloo with me?

[MeekMeerkat]

HEAL: mage

I’m getting an impression that scum is least afraid of Best Friends, and none of the town speculations about it sound that appealing. (Neighborhoods are fun, but not always helpful).

Would also vote archive if that gained popularity.

[MeekMeerkat]

I'm feeling the absence of genuine Town Hunters in this game. I could use more Town reads from the following players I town lean.


Town leans:
Fred, Dunn, Mala, Gamma, Toogle, Meerkat,

Null/scum: rest

I think Titus is town. Why is Toogeloo town?

What's the town read on Titus for?

Townvibes, early play includes hot takes that garner attention, & she’s seemingly not looking for ways to manipulate (unless archives is secretly pro-scum?)

[MeekMeerkat]

I'm feeling the absence of genuine Town Hunters in this game. I could use more Town reads from the following players I town lean.


Town leans:
Fred, Dunn, Mala, Gamma, Toogle, Meerkat,

Null/scum: rest

I think Titus is town. Why is Toogeloo town?

What's the town read on Titus for?

Townvibes, early play includes hot takes that garner attention, & she’s seemingly not looking for ways to manipulate (unless archives is secretly pro-scum?)

I'm always looking to persuade (manipulation is a dirty meaning for it). I don't 100% know about the augments but to say I'm not looking to manipulate is either a) I don't have a foothold or b) you don't know me.

c) My attempt at brevity led you to misunderstand my point:
----> Was trying to say something like "if town look for good choices and pursue them while scum look for bad town and amplify them (and some of each alignment have little impact either way), titus feels most like the former"

[MeekMeerkat]

You really throwed something possible useful to get hoods.

Fucking social.

I bet the Friends wagon has at least half the scumteam

[MeekMeerkat]

I would like to be in a neighborhood with any of:

- dunnstral
- gamma emerald
- enchant
- mastina
- frederick, if he towns it up a bit more

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: tictac

[MeekMeerkat]

Gamma Emerald, please won't you be my neighbor?

[MeekMeerkat]

I think I'm gonna wait to see how Meerkat responds to a certain post of mine, if I get a particular reaction I'll hood with him for sure.

Can I have a hint

[MeekMeerkat]

@Frogsterking I got a better idea. I would want your consent but I am not sure how to get it. I need you to be friends with someone first. Ideally town.

Mala, Gamma, Meerkat I think are Town

Mala or Meek please. Then I'll try to figure how to get a modicum of informed consent.

Best Friends vanguard: Meek

Best Friends vanguard: Mala

This is tempting but tbh you make me paranoid. I’m nervous I’m easily pocketable

[MeekMeerkat]

Sobered up and am no longer sour from having to listen to inane bs all the time (game unrelated)
That‘s an incentive alright

So NDmath didn‘t properly backtrack from the MK scumread which suggests the pairing makes sense with early bus

What does this mean? NDMath is bussing me? Why do you scumread me, again?

[MeekMeerkat]

Yume can be town because mastina says so

Toogeloo/Sara/tictac are my scumreads reads so far. Vivax and I definitely have different play styles, so I’m not sure I can read him well, but it’s now a scumlean.

Can we get a wagon going?

[MeekMeerkat]

Well IRL I had 12 hours that sucked. And now this game has taken a nosedive

Hi Gamma I’m trying to gather thoughts I know you want a response from me

[MeekMeerkat]

[7]

Best Friends

Frogsterking, Yume, Fredrick A Campbell, Malakittens, tictac, SirCakez, Toogeloo

I still think there’s multiple scum in this wagon. Leaning tictac, toogeloo, and/or Frederick/cakez in that order.

24 hours ago I thought town might night action our way to a win. Now it seems like our day play might need to improve instead, and fast.

[MeekMeerkat]

Titus’ hydra action feels pretty +town, and maybe makes me townread Nomsy mechanically? Would scum have an extra slot if a townie is going to be consolidating multiple town slots into 1?

[MeekMeerkat]

I think I'm gonna wait to see how Meerkat responds to a certain post of mine, if I get a particular reaction I'll hood with him for sure.

Can I have a hint

one of my posts talked about being in a hood with Titus recently
do you know what I meant by it?

Short answer is no, and if this is your way of trying to ask if you know who I am the answer is “I don’t think you do”

[MeekMeerkat]

@frederick if you’re going to be cryptic about your recent votes will you offer some substantial reads on other players, please?

Sara is probably just scum. Nomsy’s push on Frederick is maybe the towniest that slot has acted so far.

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: beeboy

[MeekMeerkat]

Spoiler: post 823 by MeekMeerkat

@frederick if you’re going to be cryptic about your recent votes will you offer some substantial reads on other players, please?

Sara is probably just scum. Nomsy’s push on Frederick is maybe the towniest that slot has acted so far.

I would say a few more actions by Nomsy before that were also quite towny to me. I don't quite remember the actions themselves, but that was the impression I had reading them.

I found them hard to read overall, but their push on you felt more town motivated than, well, most things that most people have done. (Mostly because we all keep getting distracted by shiny mechanics and role softs instead of finding scum)

[MeekMeerkat]

Gamma seems fairly obviously town, yes.

Thoughts on Sara or Toogeloo ISOs? Or tictac? Would love to find the townie(s) among the lowposters before the game depends on it

[MeekMeerkat]

24 hours ago I thought town might night action our way to a win. Now it seems like our day play might need to improve instead, and fast.

I think it’s weird that malakittens thought Nomsy and I are one. Not confirming either way, but “tonal reasons” is maybe the weirdest reason possible there (not least because most options for Nomsy’s identity are obviously trying to strike a different tone with Nomsy than with their main). I had thought she was probably town, but that moment felt like “shoot I implied I had a good idea who Nomsy was uhhhhh I’ll say Meerkat” moment. I dunno, is scum mala bold enough to dayvig mastina? Maybe, actually, since it’s pretty WIFOMy

[MeekMeerkat]

Frederick will you neighborhood with me?

Dunnstral will you neighborhood with me?

I can’t remember if you have a neighbor.

[MeekMeerkat]

@gamma:
Will you be my hoodRatmate with me ?

I humbly accept this noble request.

Not as flowery as I’d have liked but it’s the best I’m willing to muster.
To be very clear, I made my mind recently to pick Mala barring the insta-choose condition for Meerkat being met, and it was not.

Curious in postgame to hear what this was. I’m disappointed but not too bothered since I think we’ll work together just fine itt.

[MeekMeerkat]

Frederick will you neighborhood with me?

Dunnstral will you neighborhood with me?

I can’t remember if you have a neighbor.

I'm not going to be extremely active, however. Do you still want to given this fact?

Not ideal but not a big deal

[MeekMeerkat]

NDMath

,

MeekMeer

,

Enchant

are my stronger SRs

Dunnstral

,

Nomsy

,

Toog

my weaker

?

Sara

?

TicTac

?

Cakez

? Tough slots.

We are not on the same page (coloring based on my reads). Why do you scumread me, Dunnstral, and Enchant?

[MeekMeerkat]

Not sure how to read Frederick + Dunnstral's politeness in response to my neighborhood request. First thought is it's slightly +town because scum might just take me up on the chance to influence me. Second thought is if they're both scum it wouldn't matter to them as much, but then my reads sure would be off.

[MeekMeerkat]

Probably tictac's towniest post so far ^^

a quick meta skim tells me I have not indeed caught obvscum tictac. It's more likely I'm just unable to read easy-lim tictac.

[MeekMeerkat]

@Tic tac can you post a reads list?

-Frog

i'm not organized enough atm

do you have a scumread who isn't gamma

[MeekMeerkat]

ummmm feeling really torn but Frederick I choose you! If you'll be my neighbor

[MeekMeerkat]

Spoiler: Wall of assorted read thoughts

Tictac’s read on me sucks ass, I think he’s trying to push the most surface-level scummy thing he could have found to push me, and I also expect better after he’s seen scum!me a couple times recently
I’m cool with a Sara lim, I don’t know exactly what to make of her confusion but I get bad vibes from it
I think Titus is obvtown based on how she clearly was actively trying to make her role as pro-town as possible by curbing possible downsides, so I do not sympathize with anyone pushing her at this point. And to make this clear now that the parameters are cleared for this, the game which I was referring to where Titus was obvscum in a hood was Mini Normal 2272.
I would very much still appreciate if Fred could elucidate me on his progression on me and maybe some other slots (can’t think of anything I have particular interest in so it’s his choice of what to expand on if he does so, aside from me specifically wanting him to explain his thought on me). He waffles from me being town to naked voting me to backing off, which is concerning. My immediate conclusion is he thought I was an easy push based on outdated content but swiftly realized I was townposting more recently.
I’m softly mindmelding with Meerkat here, which means while our reads don’t match I think I see his thought process and it tracks.
Meerkat also has a solid point regarding Nomsy that Titus’ role makes Nomsy’s existence potentially overpowering if they and their controller are scum.
I want to see what beeboy does going forward but I think Fred’s vote there is okayish.
Yume is locktown, doubt I need to explain why I feel this way
Toog of town I think should have done something spicey by now, so I think they can be scum
Mala I still trust rn
Frogster I thought was somewhat towny irt, I think I wanna double check that with an ISO read
Still think Vivax is sketchy
Still think Enchant is fine
NDMath idk how I feel, he’s basically always been a question mark in any game I’ve played with him?
Cakez I still think is town

Good post. Good points re: tictac, Sara, toog. Same feelings about frogster, Vivax. Why is Cakez town?

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: Sara

[MeekMeerkat]

Mmm disagree that 128, 255, & 259 are AI, they just read *annoyed*. His unprompted read on Titus is slightly towny I guess

[MeekMeerkat]

HEAL: mage

I’m getting an impression that scum is least afraid of Best Friends, and none of the town speculations about it sound that appealing. (Neighborhoods are fun, but not always helpful).

Would also vote archive if that gained popularity.

ISOd MeekMeerkat and feel better about him being town.

Can support a vote on Sara

VOTE: Sara

Can't decide if you're just appeasing me or if you're one of those townies whose thought process is completely opaque

[MeekMeerkat]

marcistar replaces SirCakez

awesomeness

Why is NDMath scum? I kinda TRed that burst of posting right around when I posted my read list

Same

[MeekMeerkat]

Though I agree wagon composition on Sara was iffy

[MeekMeerkat]

Town:
Legends (PR & solving)
Gamma (just seems obvious from scum hunting)
Yume (apparently)

Townish:
Frederick (looks like town Fred)
Dunnstral (strong town vibes albeit quiet)
Nomsy (a few flashes of good game solving)
Enchant (openly wanted mage augment and felt towny a few times)

Null:
Malakittens (because my read conflicts with mastina)
NDMath (because my read conflicts with mastina)
Vivax (scumvibes but maybe solving)
Marcistar (???)

Scummy:
Tictac (one good post that others said showed isn’t actually good)
Sara (post/content ratio still bad)
Toogeloo (bad posts imo)
Beeboy (lurking)

[MeekMeerkat]

Toog, we're already with Yume.

Looked at the last vote count, and assumed it was dissolved.

I propose a neighborhood with Dunnstral.
I propose a neighborhood with Malakittens.
I propose a neighborhood with Sara.
I propose a neighborhood with meekmeerkat.
I propose a neighborhood with beeboy.
I propose a neighborhood with SirCakez.
I propose a neighborhood with TicTac.
I propose a neighborhood with Enchant.
I propose a neighborhood with Fred.
I propose a neighborhood with NDMath.

Did I forget anyone?

Is it just me or is this how scum treats the augment power

[MeekMeerkat]

[6] NDMath : Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Legends[2], Toogeloo
[4] Sara : Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant

I actually feel about the same about these two wagons. Wouldn’t be surprised if 3-4 of us on Sara are town, even though I know that’s not consensus

[MeekMeerkat]

None of toogeloo’s posts from the last 4 pages are towny to me. Which are towny to you, Vivax?

[MeekMeerkat]

[6] NDMath : Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Legends[2], Toogeloo
[4] Sara : Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant

I actually feel about the same about these two wagons. Wouldn’t be surprised if 3-4 of us on Sara are town, even though I know that’s not consensus

Distant laughter from scumchat

If Nomsy/Enchant are scum they’re probably sweating. I’m like their only hope

[MeekMeerkat]

Maybe that’s not true. Too many players to remember if they’re commonly townread or scumread I guess

[MeekMeerkat]

None of toogeloo’s posts from the last 4 pages are towny to me. Which are towny to you, Vivax?

I think the ball is in your court, not mine, for asking questions
Nonchalant is a word you can have as a crutch

[MeekMeerkat]

Vivax: “I think toog has been towny the last few pages”
Me: “I disagree, why do you think that”
Vivax: “Um the ball is in your court on that actually”


Maybe slightly not s/s I guess? For toogeloo/Vivax I mean

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: NDMath for game momentum

[MeekMeerkat]

well they can but idk if itll b worth

im fine with no hood if meerkat is already w someone

I’m already w Fred, mods missed it but he accepted my request

[MeekMeerkat]

I‘d p-launch everyone who voted for hoods if I could
That‘s another layer of intentions to sift through and you get this social competition situation screwing up several moods
Bunch of peeps feeling left out etc and now that needs mending to get to an agreement

Can't not agree.

Same

[MeekMeerkat]

NDMath, Sara, beeboy, you three are the current elim candidates. Maybe make actual use of your votes

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: beeboy[/]

Sheeping Legends and Gamma

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: beeboy

[MeekMeerkat]

I'm still on board with NDMath Elim. With the hidden Dayvig killing mastina, I'm not going to bet that town is going to shoot at NDMath, either because we don't have one, or a Vig will do it's own thing. Scum will never shoot NDMath unless they all of a sudden become a scum hunting god.

Additionally, it seems like something very easy to fake for scum, and they could very easily be a Scum Bulletproof or something. They get shot and could say they passed the protection, but maybe we just never know.

---
I'm paranoid of Titus in the Legends pair. I think Frog is town though.

I will help eliminate anyone to end day. I have Zero allegiance.

My favorite Toogeloo post thus far. Not as good if NDM is town and beeboy is scum, though

[MeekMeerkat]

I guess beeboy enchant Marci n sara don’t have hoods

Marci you should hood w enchant

[MeekMeerkat]

Gamma I'll gift you the honors of deciding, do we wagon toog or dunn

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: Dunnstral until I hear back.

Actually probably someone will have something interesting to say from night actions but I'll be :shocked_pikachu: if toog/dunn/ndmath is t/t/t

pedit: Vivax is also a good wagon yes. My inclination is usually to start off the wagon after a scum flip, though

[MeekMeerkat]

as fred's neighbor, I do not object to a fred vote. Though I'm still holding out hope he's town so my hood can get better w/ time

[MeekMeerkat]

Toogeloo claim is lightly towny at first glance. Then I remember beeboy's role had multiple parts to it and it's maybe NAI.

VOTE: Dunnstral until I hear back.

Actually probably someone will have something interesting to say from night actions but I'll be :shocked_pikachu: if toog/dunn/ndmath is t/t/t

pedit: Vivax is also a good wagon yes. My inclination is usually to start off the wagon after a scum flip, though

I will bop you so hard

How can you Burden of Profiency me if you don't know who I am/how good I am as town?

[MeekMeerkat]

NDMath didn't vote for beeboy or express suspicion there until it was a foregone conclusion that one of the two of them were going to eliminated. On top of that we now have to believe that both Nomsy is town, town has another unclaimed protective role, and NDMath is town, for three protective roles.

There's no reason to believe that the wagons were not both on mafia yesterday

Nomsy's claim seems doctor-ish, NDMath is just 1-shot bulletproof, and someone else could be a roleblocker/jailkeeper etc. For all we know scum are even night strongmen, so I don't think "too many protectives" is the way to scumhunt on D2.

VOTE: Vivax

[MeekMeerkat]

The thing is, my role gives me a double vote and nightkill protection on the following night
And I've proven half of it, unless you believe I only have a double vote

You gain nightkill protection after double voting? Or you gain nightkill protection if your double vote is the hammer?

1225 is so scummy.

[MeekMeerkat]

as fred's neighbor, I do not object to a fred vote. Though I'm still holding out hope he's town so my hood can get better w/ time

it sounds like fred didnt say much good in the hood?

Well, he started out by asking me if I townread him, and I said no. He believes it should be very obvious he is town because of what he did towards beeboy toward the end of day 1 and so he isn't so sure I'm town anymore. He will be able to confirm that that is how our chat in the neighbourhood began.

These things did happen but are not in my opinion the most important parts. There was also:
- Right after I said I would have townread you if you'd townread me, you changed your read on me to a townread
- Terrible townread on tictac
- Total reluctance to use the neighborhood

On the other hand, you seemed nervous to be sharing a neighborhood with someone you weren't sure of, so that could explain most of it and you could still be town (maybe).

[MeekMeerkat]

I think NDMath is town.

@Gamma, @Legends, what do you think of Dunnstral pushing NDMath and defending beeboy EOD1? I think it looks especially scummy considering beeboy was about to get a replacement, which often saves a slot by resetting it, so delaying beeboy's death even one game day could have really helped scum.

[MeekMeerkat]

The save likely deals with us.

VOTE: Fred

Vivax wagon going too fast.

~Titus

but I townread everyone on the Vivax wagon

[MeekMeerkat]

well, maybe not mala

[MeekMeerkat]

Spoiler: post 1257 by MeekMeerkat

as fred's neighbor, I do not object to a fred vote. Though I'm still holding out hope he's town so my hood can get better w/ time

it sounds like fred didnt say much good in the hood?

Well, he started out by asking me if I townread him, and I said no. He believes it should be very obvious he is town because of what he did towards beeboy toward the end of day 1 and so he isn't so sure I'm town anymore. He will be able to confirm that that is how our chat in the neighbourhood began.

These things did happen but are not in my opinion the most important parts. There was also:
- Right after I said I would have townread you if you'd townread me, you changed your read on me to a townread
- Terrible townread on tictac
- Total reluctance to use the neighborhood

On the other hand, you seemed nervous to be sharing a neighborhood with someone you weren't sure of, so that could explain most of it and you could still be town (maybe).

I can't find a post in the neighbourhood where you said you will townread me if I townread you. If you had really said that, you were definitely going to be more likely to be scum in my estimate.

I never said "I will townread you if you townread me", but it seems you thought I stopped townreading you

solely because

you weren't townreading me.

The next thing you did

was say you suddenly townread me for my neighborhood posts.

It felt like your thought process was "oh if I townread him he'll townread me" rather than "Meerkat has convinced me he is town"

[MeekMeerkat]

I think my ideal scum is somebody who has avoided conflict with mastina, had no or low reaction to them being shot, had no or low reaction to Titus forming the Legends hydra, and have seemed generally disinterested in forming neighborhoods, or doing so only as an afterthought.

Ignoring Augment voting as there was a lot of speculation but we didn't know what the powers did.

NDMath seems to fit all of the above criteria, and they are active enough that they didn't simply miss out.

VOTE: NDMath

NDMath didn't vote for beeboy or express suspicion there until it was a foregone conclusion that one of the two of them were going to eliminated. On top of that we now have to believe that both Nomsy is town, town has another unclaimed protective role, and NDMath is town, for three protective roles.

There's no reason to believe that the wagons were not both on mafia yesterday

@dunnstral do these three posts accurately summarize your scumread on NDM?

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She super obv-told-the-truth-about-her-PR but mastina feeling so strongly that mala was scum is still ringing in my ear

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huh?

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well, maybe not mala

bruh

I mean the rest of the wagon was so towny! Mala slightly less so. She’s not a scumread.

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HEAL: Cybernetic Shell

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Everything Vivax posts feels like obvscum

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HAHHAHAA

IF YOU GUYS TRIED TO KILL ME
THATS WHAT YOU GET

? It seems obvious that the hydra was shot at

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My gut was that Think Fast shortens the day length, and maybe night length.

Cursed Crown sounded like a kingmaker ability like what Gamma had back in SLaughter Hour.

Cybernetic Shell 3 sounded like a big or something.

I'll specify this now, there are definitely items in the game as I got one yesterday, so that's probably what cyber shell has to do with, and I think it's good to buff those

Curious what this item was but probably it’s better if you don’t say. Wish we were neighbors

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Wait so are we definitely doing Fred? I prefer Dunnstral, Vivax, and tictac but I’ll ultimately sheep the hydra probably

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toog, mala, yume, town.
u were town until consuming ndmath.

meek, whomeven controls the puppet scumlean
gamma scum

pending update on eod still

Why am I a scumlean

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Feel good about this elim & about the augment. I think Legends is fully town. Tictac might be town actually. If I’m reading the game right, scum has an uphill battle

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Feel good about this elim & about the augment. I think Legends is fully town. Tictac might be town actually. If I’m reading the game right, scum has an uphill battle

So, why do

you

think tictac is town?

Certainly nothing to do with tictac ever having a “high posting rate” like you’d said in the hood. 1369 seemed sorta believable as reads

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I get why Vivax is being wagoned (their rushed vote to end the day) but I don't agree with it. I don't remember the reasons to vote Frederick.

I'm also voting Vivax for voting Gamma to start D2 & because my townreads are voting Vivax

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hear me out

im janitor

Is janitor the one that makes flips secret to all but you? Not sure what the town utility is, though I wasn't scumreading you really before now

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my kills conditional

i wont know their alignment or role and nobody else will know either.
part of why i avoided acting

wait so you can make kills? I'm lost

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Vivax there's a reason your posts are inscrutable, yes? Can I know the reason?

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Vivax there's a reason your posts are inscrutable, yes? Can I know the reason?

Overbordering fantasy, compulsive writing, excessive questioning of people's motivations?
Recent reading into philosophy and theological history?

Is that a satisfying self-analysis?

I mean, yes. I was wondering if it was a game reason and now I know it's not

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Don't like the marci wagon composition.

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Let's make sure Vivax gets the "Malatt" today when they're executed!

-Frog

(ie Mala, mallet, hammer)

-Frog

(I got the pun it was good)

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VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: marcistar

I'm fine with executing marcistar as well.

bet I will
VOTE: marcistar

Mafia outing themselves?
If so, it was a successful day regardless of the outcome
If not, it's going to be a tough game

I doubt all three are scum but it's interesting you scumread the people forming a cw when you're the leading wagon

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as to meek-read, i feel there is a going with the flow quality to his reads, remains a scumlean.

Most of my townreads are in a hydra, so I am indeed just sheeping them.

Also, my sig

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It has been multiple pages since this game made sense. Can we eliminate Vivax or Fred, rather than just keep listening to Vivax’s fever dream

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Or Dunnstral

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It has been multiple pages since this game made sense. Can we eliminate Vivax or Fred, rather than just keep listening to Vivax’s fever dream

Wdym? Game makes perfect sense. You've never stopped scumreading me but you didn't have an issue joining my wagon on NDmath

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

Game makes some sense. Your posts don’t. You’re just rambling word salad and somehow it’s dissolving the wagon you

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wagon on you*

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I voted NDMath to sheep Legends. I was happy to make beeboy the leading wagon shortly after

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I could do Marci if Legends approves

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I could do Marci if Legends approves

I am fascinated why you would want to wait specifically for their approval. There are many other players in this game as well.

I have 4 strong townreads and three of them share a slot, and have decided to present their thoughts as unified. It’s my way of saying “I’d like to vote with Titus, Frogster, NDMath, and Gamma”

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I am unphased by being the latest hot counterwagon. Vivax reads like scum posting antispew. Fred reads like a partner looking for a viable counterwagon (what happened to your townread of me, Fred?)

Not sure what the town motivation is for calling out “cheating”, either.

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I think it’s a safe assumption that Yume, Titus, Frog, and NDM are mostly communicating behind closed doors. They’ve pretty much said as much. So I don’t think you can scumread Yume for a drop in activity (and don’t see why scum would be motivated to start lurking right after a scum was eliminated for lurking)

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What is the towncase on Vivax? The closest thing to “solving” he did since becoming the lead wagon was guessing which accounts have shared owners.

No offense Vivax in the off chance you’re town but everything Vivax says seems designed to make my eyes gloss over and find something shinier to point a vote at

That said, I’ll follow Legends basically anywhere, including onto Marci

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The hammer won’t matter anymore tbh

It was really only active for D1

This is frustrating given I think we were all kinda angling for you to hammer Vivax today

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Fred where is the fire you had in this recent town game you played? You seem much more placid here

loftwing and fred? loftwing who i susssed earlier, fred who despite all the content reads pretty null 2 me... well now. my eyes are def gonna ber turning there.

I was under the impression you claimed to have 12 null reads. How is it that you "susssed" loftwing earlier?

irrelphant and catscratch vote... meh, i can, live with it. don't have a take on cats atm but from what ive seen they look better 'n a lot of others.

I remember you were starting to get suspicious of Irrelephant11. What happened to that?

Also, do you really mean you are going to ignore every post I made regarding you?

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Wild that I seem to be the only one interested in a Dunnstral wagon.

Back to Vivax: shouldn’t the fact that we’ve been frozen all game day on an almost-eliminated Vivax SCREAM Vivax is scum? If Vivax is town scum has had tons of opportunity to get this miselim

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What is the towncase on Vivax? The closest thing to “solving” he did since becoming the lead wagon was guessing which accounts have shared owners.

No offense Vivax in the off chance you’re town but everything Vivax says seems designed to make my eyes gloss over and find something shinier to point a vote at

That said, I’ll follow Legends basically anywhere, including onto Marci

U sound like someone called HF
And within your scumgame if that‘s you

I’m not them

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VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: marcistar

I'm fine with executing marcistar as well.

bet I will
VOTE: marcistar

Mafia outing themselves?
If so, it was a successful day regardless of the outcome
If not, it's going to be a tough game

@gamma, @enchant, @marci, @mala, Vivax saw a counterwagon forming against the wagon on him, and said the people voting that counterwagon were scum. Wouldn’t town!Vivax think scum was already voting him?

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That’s also @fred and anyone else not voting Vivax

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VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: marcistar

I'm fine with executing marcistar as well.

bet I will
VOTE: marcistar

Mafia outing themselves?
If so, it was a successful day regardless of the outcome
If not, it's going to be a tough game

@gamma, @enchant, @marci, @mala, Vivax saw a counterwagon forming against the wagon on him, and said the people voting that counterwagon were scum. Wouldn’t town!Vivax think scum was already voting him?

I think it’s within bounds for him to think he was getting wagoned by town? Like, his posting has conveyed that he understands being pushed like he has been.

If the wagon on him was all town and he was also town scum wouldn’t start a new wagon

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Wow meant to use but that was a unique post I made

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Like think about it for more than a two-second “hm could this cross town!Vivax’s mind”. In what world do scum see 4-6 townies sitting on a townie and *start a new wagon* - and how is it believable that Vivax thought that? Vivax is playing purely to survive, not solve

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Day two ends in (expired on 2022-09-06 21:44:11).

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I’ll vote Marci before deadline to avoid non elim. Hoping Vivax and Marci are s/s because I’m much more convinced Vivax is scum

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You scumread me because Marci is either town or scum?

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I do not know how to read Marci (I felt this way before the game started, I’ve seen her play before) but I agree that her claim is NAI.

Yes I am advocating for Vivax to die over Marci, because I have many more reasons to scumread Vivax and see Marci as the counterwagon. Never before have I seen someone do pre-flip associations so that “if Marci is town, one of the things Meerkat says makes him mafia - AND if Marci is scum, that same comment makes Meerkat mafia” like lol

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Scum Vivax reasoning:
- I townread everyone who has sat on the Vivax wagon. Wagons made entirely of townies are more likely to be on scum
- Vivax became the leading wagon and then the game slowed way down, and a counterwagon slowly formed. This suggests scum aren’t interested in the Vivax flip.
- While some apparently disagree, I think Vivax has done next to nothing to find scum this game day. He’s not interrogated anyone for info, not made logical points about who might be what alignment, and generally seems uninterested in anything other than posting high amounts of text as a way to make people lose interest in his elim.
- He spent part of this game day speculating on which slots are cheaters, insulted me when I increased the pressure on him (“your tone is insecure”) and generally is doing things I can’t find town motivation for

FFS this is supposed to be my low effort alt

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Reasons to scumread Marci:
- Her claim seems to be a big reason for many, but I see it as NAI and so do you, Fred
- Her posting is more sparse (if you scumread Marci for this and then I’m your biggest scumread )
- She has a tone of trying to survive, yeah this is an okay point and I see it kinda
- She has also sat near elim for a good portion of the game day. Though I see this as less town indicative in this case because momentum has been shifting towards her even though I (from my perspective I’m the only one I know to be town) am advocating for the other elim. Gives me the feeling the momentum shift is because scum want it

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Marci who did you target N1?

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MeekMeerkat, the basis of my scumread on you is that
1. You claim Vivax was "playing purely to survive, not solve".
2. marcistar appears to fit "playing purely to survive, not solve" more than Vivax.
3. You didn't push marcistar.

Why is 3. a fact? I can't know, but the reasons I think of make me scumread you.

While writing the above, ...

3. Because while you're right that marci is playing to survive more than solve (I've acknowledged that's true since you pointed it out) it's a

single

reason to scumread Marci, compared to my having

multiple

reasons to scumread Vivax??? Are you playing dumb or just scum?

If Marci and Vivax are both town, scum could have easily hammered one of them literal days ago. If one is town and the other is scum, scum are probably sitting on one wagon while town is sitting on the other (a major reason I scumread vivax over marci here: wagon composition). If both are scum, town is doing great, but just arguing over which is a more ideal elim.

The least likely scenario imo here is that both are town, and like two seconds ago you townread me for "posts seem town" - I'm suddenly scum for *not voting Marci* for *one of the reasons* I find Vivax scummy? This is asinine, I'm almost certainly arguing with scum at this point. Not going to derail consensus by making this a me v fred right before deadline but this line of argument against me is idiotic. Why isn't "avoiding voting Marci" a reason for you to find Vivax scummy here?

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In your opinion, Fred, which posts this game day show Vivax solving?

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Nomsy claimed bodyguard

huh, I missed this

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I wish Legends was three slots. I feel the feeling of when your friends move away and yeah you can call but it's not the same

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Marci, please vote vivax

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Vivax isn't hammering..................... do I un-tunnel here?

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@dunnstral do you still feel strongly that ndmath is scum?

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do you have any scumreads besides marci right now?

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what is your read on fred?

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feeling of dread increasing

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[7]

Marcistar

: Enchant, Sara, Malakittens, Dunnstral, tictac, toogeloo, Fred A Campbell

Maybe I'm an idiot, but I kinda agree that this set of claims makes no sense from scum!Marci?
Meanwhile it feels like scum are

absolutely

on this wagon, especially if Vivax is town (not sure he is, but not feeling nearly as confident with Vivax passing up the opportunity to hammer)

scum in [Enchant, Sara, Dunnstral, tictac, Fred]

Has anyone considered that scum have good reason to want what is essentially a vig to die? I'll look so scummy here if Marci is maf but I'm just not feeling it. I kinda believed her when she got mad

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starcaller

@dunnstral or someone else familiar with flavor: does this make sense with her PR claim?

anyone cc starcaller?

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is this game stalling because it's got 3rd parties who just don't care

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@dunnstral or someone else familiar with flavor: does this make sense with her PR claim?

Not really

Starcaller doesn't kill or janitor people

The first Starcaller to cast their Ability during player combat heals you for (2/3/75), depending on their star level. Excess healing disintegrates an enemy champion.

Feels like it makes perfect sense tbh

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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Who do you want to vote now? I'm guessing you're not thinking one of these:

-scum!marci has dropped a fake claim that's very well thought out, and yet is guaranteed to make her a top choice for elimination because janitor has scummy connotations, but knowing that she still used the fake claim
-scum!marci is telling the truth about her role, and she either protected someone last night on accident or is just... not using her very powerful PR for some reason

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Which leaves:

-town!marci is telling the truth, and scum are on the wagon because die vig die

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Which leaves:

-town!marci is telling the truth, and scum are on the wagon because die vig die

Vigs useful.
I can only use my role again tomorrow.
Feels like peeps talk about game related stuff around me irl lmao
not for the first time

To be fair it often feels like you're uninterested in writing posts I can understand

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@dunnstral are you familiar with TFT though?

I still think Dunnstral's defense of beeboy is the most damning from D1. I'm torn on fred's D1 treatment of beeboy because he started the wagon with a "beeboy has done nothing" post that looks p towny in retrospect. But he did jump off at a mildly scummy time so that weakens the point

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Ughhhh I'm not gonna get Dunnstral or Vivax today am I

I can hammer Fred in an hour-ish if nothing changes

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Also, how do I know that every post since the formation of Legends isn't just being posted by Titus, attributing it to Frogsterking and NDMath occasionally, and Titus has effectively dayvigged two slots without anyone knowing?

btw this had me super paranoid for a minute yesterday but then I remembered the mod would have to be lying to us

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RIP my hood

VOTE: Frederick

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I’m tired but VOTE: Sara while I process the things.

Not sure Marci is town but I think someone said maybe scum only has daykills in which case town having a million (useless) night protectives is kinda plausible? Nobody is claiming D1 or D2 daykills so wouldn’t those be from scum probably?

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I kinda townlean Marci’s frustration especially since there was a “fine you can live if you confirm your role” and then she did and now people are voting her which I imagine would feel frustrating

I don’t want Vivax to live much longer but Sara really needs sorted sooner than later

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I think Toogeloo was town :/

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HEAL: Verdant Veil

Why?

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“ Age of Dragons: If you have three or more dragons, every fourth attack from a dragon fires a Dragonsoul blast that deals magic damage equal to 30 percent of their target’s maximum health. Gain a Nomsy, Zippy, and a random dragon.”

“ New Recruit: Gain plus one team size.”

“ Verdant Veil: Your units are immune to crowd control effects for the first 15 seconds of combat. ”

https://dotesports.com/tft/news/how-tft ... nd-updates

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Vivax who are your solid townreads?

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HEAL: Verdant Veil

Why?

Hi, still think you‘re mafia, the pop-ins being wolfy and that you shot mastina
Also, rodents

Pop-ins? You think out of everyone in this player list I’m the one who’s scummy for “pop-ins”?

Sure let’s do this VOTE: Vivax

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Me or Vivax everybody, our scumreads of each other have been mutual all game and I’m done stretching my brain to try to see town motivation for writing incomprehensible posts that somehow have juuuuuust enough meaning to throw shade at every other slot in the game

Pedit: I think Dunnstral is scum

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I literally said as much in the toog hood

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[ENRAGE!]

VOTE: Beeboy

Not my choice but I feel like hammering
No regrets
More drama

On another note, the Joker movie

Spoiler:

is about the descent of a mental crutch profession into madness during systemic failure

makes you think or not?

The thing is, my role gives me a double vote and nightkill protection on the following night
And I've proven half of it, unless you believe I only have a double vote

Vivax
DIDNT YOU SEE I ASKED YOU MULT TIME I NEEDEE TI HAMMER
YET

Yea, I decided that I had to stop the attitude that got out in the Large, among others. Cause being impossible to scumread is a source of toxicity and I honestly dislike not getting treated as any other player.
So I roleplayed as a trashcan, just like in my first games on MU.

I‘m still obligated to apologize for not respecting that wish. It‘s just more frustrating to me to get TRd than SRd at this point, and having to feel like giving some players pref treatment to avoid insulting them.

tl;dr: Being a shit to restore the balance of powers and I‘m not gonna fault anyone if I get limmed

Still hilarious to be N1 target perhaps, and D2 wagon. It‘s like I claimed third party

Remember when Vivax simultaneously suggested he knew it was scummy to hammer beeboy in the way he did and also that he was probably the nightkill

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Vivax is it still true that you have a double vote again today?

I think Dunnstral is scum for staying extremely under the radar in a game that seems built for town leader Dunn, familiar with the flavor and most of the players, able to make much better votes than he has chosen to make. Also from PoE

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Me or Vivax everybody, our scumreads of each other have been mutual all game and I’m done stretching my brain to try to see town motivation for writing incomprehensible posts that somehow have juuuuuust enough meaning to throw shade at every other slot in the game

Pedit: I think Dunnstral is scum

Why do you think Dunn is scum?

Why do you?

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HEAL: Verdant Veil

Why?

sorry dont know what they do

Then why vote that one?

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Vivax who are your solid townreads?

mala, marci, GE, enchant

part of legends at least

fully aware this is new

Can you explain the enchant read and which part of legends?

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Pop-ins? You think out of everyone in this player list I’m the one who’s scummy for “pop-ins”?

Also this is not a rhetorical question, is “Wolfy pop-ins” really your read on my slot?

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There no AtE in that post.

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Yes, like three other questions. See above

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I literally answered

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I literally answered

I‘m on phone.Missed it.
Vote Dunn then or keep up the combative antics to not have to.
Because this burst of activity is unusual from you

Answer my questions and then decide if you scumread me - if you’re so sure my lack of a vote on Dunn makes me scum then vote me.
“This burst of activity is unusual from you”? What’s your point? Does it make me scum, make me town, does it just mean we’re, I dunno, maybe having a conversation? You seem interested in being able to keep me at the bottom of your readslist while doing nothing to pursue the read or convince others. Go ahead, case me. Why am I scum? Because you speculated that “mastina’s words are ringing in my ears” is a turn of phrase I’d only use if I made the daykill? Or because I’m… posting this game day? Case me, let all the townies finally see what you see in scum!Meerkat

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Vivax who are your solid townreads?

mala, marci, GE, enchant

part of legends at least

fully aware this is new

Can you explain the enchant read and which part of legends?

I‘m town and me n enchant are always town together because

enchant forfeited a golden opportunity to bury the hell out of me.

And if I could make a monument to enchants positivity in games I would.

Anything else?

What does the bolded mean?

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@Dunnstral what has Vivax been like in your hood? Did you know he scumreads you?

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tictac what are your reads

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I’m asking you to case me because I don’t think you have real reasons to scumread me, and you casing me would reveal whether you do. You’ve said you think “mastina’s voice ringing in my ear” was some sort of scum slip, and that I do “wolfy pop-ins” (laughable in a game that includes Sara and tictac playing the way they’re playing, and in a player list that has minimal interpersonal engagement overall since mid-D2), and now that my posts read “calculated” (which ones? In what way?). I think you’re scum for 100 reasons I’ve listed, and the last time I voted along with you on a mututal scumlean, Fred flipped green, so forgive me for being skeptical that doing the same is a safe option today.

I refuse to do this song and dance through to endgame, so stop shading me vaguely, sort me out loud in plain language where everyone can evaluate the case for themselves, or alternatively, 1v1 me & I’ll do everything I can to have you limmed.

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Btw if scum can only shoot during the day Vivax gaining night safety by using his double vote is scummy (protection from marci, if she’s town, and fred)

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I’m asking you to case me because I don’t think you have real reasons to scumread me, and you casing me would reveal whether you do. You’ve said you think “mastina’s voice ringing in my ear” was some sort of scum slip, and that I do “wolfy pop-ins” (laughable in a game that includes Sara and tictac playing the way they’re playing, and in a player list that has minimal interpersonal engagement overall since mid-D2), and now that my posts read “calculated” (which ones? In what way?). I think you’re scum for 100 reasons I’ve listed, and the last time I voted along with you on a mututal scumlean, Fred flipped green, so forgive me for being skeptical that doing the same is a safe option today.

I refuse to do this song and dance through to endgame, so stop shading me vaguely, sort me out loud in plain language where everyone can evaluate the case for themselves, or alternatively, 1v1 me & I’ll do everything I can to have you limmed.

I don't have a reason to 1 v 1 anyone while voting a scumread when I know I'm town
But if I were a highly motivated teammate of Dunnstral, I might have one and try to force such a situation

In my experience, I'm more likely as mafia to pay more attention to people scumreading me and attack them. As town I just roll with my instincts, which may or may not be accurate.
When you play this game for long enough you'd rather aim at getting laughs and a good mood out of it rather than reasons to pat yourself on the back (situations where one makes bad decisions while in a bad mood exist)

Dunno, a relaxed approach to the game is worth more in my opinion. Mafia needs to have this aggressive way of pushing situations they want at all costs more often than town. Exceptions being when the town has some emotional involvement that makes them obsess over specific players. It's fine, but when it's like that don't try to pretend you have other reasons.

VOTE: Dunn
See, when you write posts that make sense, I don’t feel so annoyed at the way you speak gibberish and act like it makes you Gandhi. And when I’m less annoyed, it occurs to me that you’re halfway towny between the moments of scumminess

My ego still wants a Vivax lim but I’ve decided that going with the flow will at least provide something new. And I didn’t make this alt to play uphill, ego or no

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Malakittens I’ll vote Marci if you can explain why scum Marci shoots Toog, and also explain how Marci came up with such a good flavor+PR fake claim (the flavor and the PR perfectly match and PR doctor is a very weird scum role, and the janitor part makes sense in a NAI way because it fits the flavor so good)

Because it really feels like Marci is a bizarre doctor/vig here

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Like mayyyybe Marci is 3P bizarre doctor/vig? Would explain the survivalist tone. But if Marci is town what should she be doing differently to get townread by you? Because I see her actions as plausible for town-her, albeit with a scummy sounding role

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I think more players in this game should have “low effort alt” in their sigs tbh

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Going over Dunnstral again it seems like most is just mech talk and I have no clue where their head is at read-wise. ISO gives very little weight on single slots and it reads like it‘s designed for antispew.

This is all pretty true. Towniest thing Dunnstral ever did was try to figure out who Nomsy was on page 1, and that’s not even that towny if Nomsy is town

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So.

Legends absorbed 3-4 shots.

One from bulletproof vest
One from ability Heroic Presence.
One from Normy being bodyguard for them (on night though, and they didn't die before.


Something not right here.

I have more info about this but first -
Marci do you know my role? I can maybe semi-clear you if you do

[MeekMeerkat]

VOTE: Dunnstral I think I’m townleaning Vivax rn?? I’m not sure what the point of him constantly shading the Legends slot does for scum-him if he’s just repeatedly trying to shoot that slot

[MeekMeerkat]

Silence

Do either of you want to explain

[MeekMeerkat]

How this is possible? Especially since nothing occurred in the thread to cause it

[MeekMeerkat]

Actually I guess I don’t care all that much since you’re both probably town

Pedit: seems like a pointless risk? Unless you’re super scumreading Yume or mala

[MeekMeerkat]

So.

Legends absorbed 3-4 shots.

One from bulletproof vest
One from ability Heroic Presence.
One from Normy being bodyguard for them (on night though, and they didn't die before.


Something not right here.

I have more info about this but first -
Marci do you know my role? I can maybe semi-clear you if you do

i have no idea
i would guess a debuff since i havent recieved anything to say otherwise and its a weird idea to ask me out of everyone.or i could go wild with a theory but shrugs

btw guys i actually agree with enchant here

Sigh, my trap didn’t work
My role protected Legends last night phase, though I don’t know whether the slot was attacked.

If scum knew I protected Legends, maybe they would target Toogeloo instead. So if Marci admitted she had figured out my role in hopes of me “semi-clearing” her, it would suggest her Toog kill was scum-motivated (dodging my protection on Legends). But since she didn’t admit it I didn’t get much out of this either way.

I still can’t explain Nomsy failing to save the Legends slot, though

[MeekMeerkat]

It was also your grand entrance to the thread

But yes Dunnstral is pointing out things that now seem obvious. Yume is Nomsy 2 because he gained the powers of Legends 1, which included controlling Nomsy 1

[MeekMeerkat]

Dunnstral why does it seem like you are trying as hard as you can to minimize your effect on the outcome of each game day

[MeekMeerkat]

Just stating facts about PRs and flavor and occasionally quietly placing votes on people/augments that already have votes

[MeekMeerkat]

Marci do you townread Dunnstral? If not wanna place a vote there?
@mala/Yume and gamma, are any of you townreading Dunnstral? Why? What do you think about my scumcase that he’s done nothing but state simple facts about setup stuff?

Also @mala and @gamma, you’re just completely skimming over the reasons Marci could be town CPR doctor here (for example, if scum nightkilled last night, I protected Legends and therefore Marco’s kill could be the separate, additional kill.

@tictac @Enchant @Sara, will any of you vote Dunnstral with me?

[MeekMeerkat]

If this game comes down to a Dunnstral/tictac/Sara/enchant/Marci final 5 town has either already lost or has very little chance of finding scum

[MeekMeerkat]

Is there a reason we've collectively ignored tictac?

Not everyone, based on him being damaged

ya. that's why ppl asking 4 my reads feels busyworky. u better than meek since it's not reacting to me postin.
meek doing hard derail of marci

again

while claiming protective, and after seeing legend-flip sups weird.
VOTE: meek
just how many kill-stoppers do u think is plausible?

I gave Legends an item during D2, which according to yesterday's augment protected Legends through the night phase (I also gave Gamma an item D1).
I could vote Marci before the day ends but if she flips town everyone who wants me to vote Marci has to sheep me tomorrow.

@gamma I think Sara is scum too, but Sara's within town range, based on a meta skim. I sincerely doubt Dunnstral is scumhunting when bringing up tictac. Just feels like derailing

[MeekMeerkat]

This town is in complete disarray and it's extremely annoying

[MeekMeerkat]

Right, I gave an item to Legends 1.0.

[MeekMeerkat]

Spoiler: Day 1 VCA in honor of Titus

1.1

[4] MeekMeerKat :

NDMath

,

Fredrick A Campbell

, Dunnstral, Vivax
[2]

Titus

:

Nomsy

, Sara
[1] Sara : MeekMeerKat
[1]

Mastina

: Malakittens
[1] Malakittens :

Mastina

[1] Vivax :

Frogsterking

[8] Not voting: tictac,

Titus

, Yume, Enchant,

beeboy

, Toogeloo, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald,

1.2

[3] MeekMeerKat :

Fredrick A Campbell

, Dunnstral, Vivax
[2] Toogeloo :

Nomsy

, MeekMeerKat
[2] Vivax :

Frogsterking

, Gamma Emerald,
[1]

Titus

: Sara
[1] Malakittens :

Mastina

[1]

Nomsy

: tictac
[1]

Fredrick A Campbell

: SirCakez
[1] tictac :

NDMath

[6] Not voting:

Titus

, Yume, Enchant,

beeboy

, Toogeloo, Malakittens

1.3

[2] MeekMeerKat : Dunnstral, Vivax
[2] Toogeloo : MeekMeerKat
[2] Vivax : Gamma Emerald,

Frogsterking

[2] Malakittens :

Mastina

,

Nomsy

[1]

Titus

: Sara
[1]

Nomsy

: tictac
[1]

Fredrick A Campbell

: SirCakez
[1] tictac :

NDMath

[1]

mastina

:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Enchant : Yume

[6] Not voting:

Titus

, Yume, Enchant,

beeboy

, Toogeloo, Malakittens

—

[7] Best Friends:

Frogsterking

, MeekMeerkat, Yume,

Fredrick A Campbell

, Malakittens, tictac, SirCakez
[5] Mage Crest: Enchant, Gamma Emerald,

NDMath

,

Nomsy

, Sara
[3] Ancient Archives:

Titus

,

mastina

, Vivax

[3] Not voting: Dunnstral,

beeboy

, Toogeloo,

1.4

[3] Vivax : Gamma Emerald,

Frogsterking

, Toogeloo
[2] MeekMeerKat : Dunnstral, Vivax
[2] Malakittens :

Mastina

,

Nomsy

[2]

Nomsy

: tictac,

Titus

[1] Toogeloo : MeekMeerKat
[1]

Titus

: Sara
[1]

Fredrick A Campbell

: SirCakez
[1] tictac :

NDMath

[1]

mastina

:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Enchant : Yume

[3] Not voting: Enchant,

beeboy

, Malakittens

—

[7] Best Friends:

Frogsterking

, Yume,

Fredrick A Campbell

, Malakittens, tictac, SirCakez, Toogeloo
[6] Mage Crest: Enchant, Gamma Emerald,

NDMath

,

Nomsy

, Sara, MeekMeerkat
[3] Ancient Archives:

Titus

,

mastina

, Vivax

[2] Not voting: Dunnstral,

beeboy

1.5

[5]

Nomsy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

, Gamma Emerald,

Titus

, Yume, Vivax
[3] Vivax :

Frogsterking

, Toogeloo,

NDMath

[2] Malakittens :

Mastina

,

Nomsy

[1] tictac : MeekMeerkat
[1]

Titus

: Sara
[1]

Fredrick A Campbell

: SirCakez
[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac
[1] MeekMeerkat : Malakittens

[3] Not voting: Enchant,

beeboy

, Dunnstral

1.6

mastina died, vc reset

1.7

NDMath

: Yume
No one else voted yet

1.8

[4] Sara :

Nomsy

, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Vivax
[1]

NDMath

: Yume
[1]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac

[10] Not voting: Dunnstral, Sara, Enchant,

NDMath

,

beeboy

, Toogeloo, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald,

Legends

1.8 again apparently

[6]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral,

Legends[2]

, Toogeloo
[4] Sara :

Nomsy

, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant
[1]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac

[5] Not voting: Sara,

NDMath

,

beeboy

, marcistar, Gamma Emerald

1.9

[5]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Toogeloo, MeekMeerkat
[5]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

,

Nomsy

,

Legends[2]

, Gamma Emerald
[2] Sara : Malakittens, Enchant
[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac
[1] Toogeloo :

NDMath

[3] Not voting: Sara,

beeboy

, marcistar

1.10

[5]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Toogeloo, MeekMeerkat
[4]

beeboy

:

Nomsy

,

Legends[2]

, Gamma Emerald
[2] Sara : Malakittens, Enchant
[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac
[1] Toogeloo :

NDMath

[1] Enchant :

Fredrick A Campbell

[3] Not voting: Sara,

beeboy

, marcistar

1.11

[7]

beeboy

:

Nomsy

,

Legends[2]

, MeekMeerkat,

NDMath

, Yume, Gamma Emerald
[3]

NDMath

: Vivax, Dunnstral, Toogeloo,
[2] Sara : Malakittens, Enchant
[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac
[1] Enchant :

Fredrick A Campbell

[3] Not voting: Sara,

beeboy

, marcistar

1.final

[9]

beeboy

:

Nomsy

,

Legends[2]

, MeekMeerkat,

NDMath

, Yume, Gamma Emerald, Vivax[2]
[2]

NDMath

: Dunnstral, Toogeloo
[2] Sara : Malakittens, Enchant
[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac
[1] Enchant :

Fredrick A Campbell

[3] Not voting: Sara,

beeboy

, marcistar

[MeekMeerkat]

1.8

[4] Sara :

Nomsy

, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Vivax
[1]

NDMath

: Yume
[1]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac

[10] Not voting: Dunnstral, Sara, Enchant,

NDMath

,

beeboy

, Toogeloo, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald,

Legends

1.8 again apparently

[6]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral,

Legends[2]

, Toogeloo
[4] Sara :

Nomsy

, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant
[1]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac

[5] Not voting: Sara,

NDMath

,

beeboy

, marcistar, Gamma Emerald

1.9

[5]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Toogeloo, MeekMeerkat
[5]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

,

Nomsy

,

Legends[2]

, Gamma Emerald
[2] Sara : Malakittens, Enchant
[1] Gamma Emerald : tictac
[1] Toogeloo :

NDMath

[3] Not voting: Sara,

beeboy

, marcistar

This trio of votecounts is really damning for Sara (when she was the leading wagon, suddenly a big wagon appeared on NDMath) and Vivax/Dunnstral (they were the ones who created the counterwagon, with help from town!Legends and mystery!Toog)

[MeekMeerkat]

[5]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Toogeloo, MeekMeerkat
[5]

beeboy

:

Fredrick A Campbell

,

Nomsy

,

Legends[2]

, Gamma Emerald

Also Yume/Vivax/Dunnstral/Toogeloo/myself look really scummy here. I don't think Yume gets the PR that lets him copy anyone else's role as scum. Maybe as 3P but not as maf. I know I'm town and I was townleaning Toogeloo before he died. I really want to flip in Vivax/Dunnstral

[MeekMeerkat]

Spoiler: Dunnstral trying to singlehandedly save beeboy

beeboy had 1 good moment in my eyes, post 35

Actually I liked 28/29 as well

I just sat down and took a look at the first game linked beyond the date

I disagree that this game looks similar to that game. I'd even say that this game is instead noticeably different from that game and this weakens your stance, though again I think the meta here is pretty weak due to age plus Beeboy's low contribution in this game

Spoiler: beeboy scum game

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

Hello friends and foes
I am here with a role claim to start off this game.

Unfortunately for a certain individual I have in fact rolled "Cop with a N0" and I opted to use my role on the terrifying "MariaR".

It has come to my attention after receiving my result that she is aligned with the Mafia.

Please help me eliminate her from the game.
Not voting with me is borderline a scum claim.

VOTE: MariaR

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

Willing to share your main?

~strange

Don't waste thread space obviously they won't do this lol.

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

hello - oh you guys are fast

Greetings sir L4pe.
Please vote "MariaR" with me.

This individual goes by many many names, it will become apparent you want this player removed in due time.

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

L4pe not helping me vote MariaR is a pretty major stab ngl.
I will remember this moment

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

ngl I am unsure how I am going to have fun this game if Claire doesn't enter the thread seeing me putting her at L-1.


I am a _____ for whatever that is worth btw.
I am looking for a lover <3

pedit: fine cabd

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

L4pe not helping me vote MariaR is a pretty major stab ngl.
I will remember this moment

i forgot you played like this and how stupid it was

If you play mafia seriously in the crapshoot known as the first 40 pages of the game.
Then you are really just wasting your time ngl.

Given nothing done in these pages actually matters outside establishing a first impression with other players.

Subject: Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

Cakez gets lynched day 1 in like every game I play with him.
So I am probably never going to actually vote him.

The last time I said this he was in fact scum, but like, idk I like to keep around the people I enjoy

They speak with purpose in this game as scum

In this game they look lost[/quote]

Spoiler: beeboy town game

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

Something something VLA until monday.
I've been a tad sick since around the time I got my role pm, feeling a bit better but mafia is off my mind until I am fully recovered.

This game having multiple confirmation phases is a god send for me in particular so I don't actually miss much.

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

Sorry I'll you see guys in the morning, I am feeling mostly ok.

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

I personally was of the belief mass claiming what we were doing is bad.
Some of us are going to be doing correct things and some of us won't be.

I'd rather not scum kill the people doing what they believe is bad to them.

I am not going to pretend I have reads at this point. (page 4)

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

I lied I hard town read Bingle.

Subject: Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

I think Bingle's scum tier list is a pretty townie thought process, it's a super weird angle to just open the game up thinking "I want to fake this".
I think comments on whether or not the list is accurate like CM1 and ABRs are totally null. Once the thought is on the table it's not a very hard one to add onto or go against.
So I guess it's not that what Bingle did was hard to fake or even risks there position as scum in some way long term. It's just abstract in such a way it's not something I think scum would care to fake.

The fifth post in particuoar looks similar to post 35 in this game. Theydo seem a littl emore focused than in this game as well

I don't see anyone whose D1 play is more s/s with beeboy than Dunnstral

[MeekMeerkat]

uh oh idk why my post broke

Was trying to quote 834, 835, 1106, 1107, 1108

with the summation "I don't see anyone whose D1 play is more s/s with beeboy than Dunnstral"

[MeekMeerkat]

What do you think?

Vote dunnstral

[MeekMeerkat]

@everyone Name a read Dunnstral has advocated for more strongly this game than "beeboy is town"

I'll wait.

[MeekMeerkat]

told myself to join a mafia game and play without efforting

[MeekMeerkat]

I absolutely did not see that correction! So sorry! I must have read someone else's "he" and thought it was under your username. Completely a mistake, sorry!!