Scummer of Love Invitational: Day 4 - The day the music died

[Glork]

Vote: Mastermind of Sin

[Glork]

unvote

vote:Gamma

While I agree with you about BBMolla and Chamber, I feel like a Gammavote here is a bad idea.

[Glork]

I'm getting a Bad Feeling (TM) from Brandi. I don't know. It's not necessarily scummy.

However, I see what she means about Gamma's joking manner. It's good enough for me.

VOTE: Gamma

I think I see where you guys are going with the UN policy lynch, I'm just not feeling it.

Ohhhh man. I so want to vote this.

Reading ahead, it seems other people want to as well.

I'm really disappointed that Llama unvoted and cost me the opportunity to trollhammer.


Nooooot much else to say right now. I'm considering putting UN at L-1 and letting someone else trollhammer.

[Glork]

Oh boy, this is going to be one of *these* games.

Haven't really read the last 3+ pages beyond a quick skim, but what I'm getting I'd that LlamaFluff needs to take anger management classes, and I'm okay sleeping onto the Axxle-wagon.

Vote: Axxle

[Glork]

EBWOP: Uh, "one of *these* games" referred to the whiny bitching and infighting, not ARBITRARY EVENT that somehow I managed to not get a PEdit for.

[Glork]

Axxle if you're town give me one good reason why I shouldn't hammer.

Also take him off L-1 dammit we are 8 pages into the game and he just got a Quizzle card.

You are threatening a hammer, while at the same time asking people to get off his wagon because of :gamemechanic: ??

Major FoS: UberNinja

[Glork]

NEWSFLASH: UberNinja still scum. More plus sports at 10.

Honest to goodness, after playing in Maiden, I'm willing to believe that he's just that bad. Doesn't mean I wouldn't troll-lynch/hammah if given the opportunity.... But yeah. An FoS and keeping an eye in him is all that's really warranted at this point.

[Glork]

Axxle if you're town give me one good reason why I shouldn't hammer.

Also take him off L-1 dammit we are 8 pages into the game and he just got a Quizzle card.

You are threatening a hammer, while at the same time asking people to get off his wagon because of :gamemechanic: ??

Major FoS: UberNinja

Yes. Now stop being dumb and trying to make me look bad for reasons that are obviously shit.

You're the one undermining your own threat by asking someone to unvote, I'm pointing out your cognitive dissonance, and you want to call

me

dumb? I'd rather not get into a pointless and distracting side argument, because it's not going to help anybody find scum, but seriously, get your head on straight.

[Glork]

Now stop being dumb and trying to make me look bad for reasons that are obviously shit.

You're the one undermining your own threat by asking someone to unvote, I'm pointing out your cognitive dissonance, and you want to call

me

dumb? I'd rather not get into a pointless and distracting side argument, because it's not going to help anybody find scum, but seriously, get your head on straight.

My head is on straight, as usual. Maybe you need to learn to read me Mr. Paragon. Or maybe I'll just break it down for you because you can't seem to grasp the basics. When things don't make immediate sense, you can often tell who's scum or town by who reacts to it strangely. Axxle reacted in a certain way which means that he's not today's lynch even if he's scum.

You're cute when you try to act smart.

I'm willing to policy lynch at this point.

Vote: UberNinja

[Glork]

Can someone please explain why people keep talking about FTF behaviors and tells and trying to apply them to forum mafia? They're pretty vastly different...

[Glork]

Page 9 is WTF WHY UNVOTES and I got so excited after seeing him at L-1 on page 8 I thought I had hammered

Dude, I wanted to hammer either of them, too.

But yeah, what's this about hypocrisy?

[Glork]

333 is Nacho.
300 is Singer.

[Glork]

This is actually pretty amusing to watch unfold.

[Glork]

Glork's not getting lynched today. He's a goddamn hypocrite for replacing out of my game for a policy lynch, and then turning aroudn and pushing one here? leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

And don't even fuckgin START Glork with "pre-game determined alliance bullshit"

It resulted in them, once again, seeing Slandaar as something worthy of a policy lynch/scummy and PUSHING for it which si the SAME as seeing UN being a sack of shit and policy lynch worthy, which YOUVE agreed to.

How are you any fucking better?

I see.

Unvote

for now.

Also, consider my V/LA extended indefinitely. If I get to the point where I can't play / keep up, I'll request a replacement as soon as possible.

[Glork]

Yeahhhh, I've spent the past ~60 hours in a hospital taking care of someone, so all of the "Glork needs to vote someone" people can blow themselves.

I'll get fully caught up on the game tomorrow and find some scums for you.

[Glork]

MoS is town don't care

lolololololol

Remember what happened last time you did that?

Remember how well you being consistently obtuse and moronic worked out in /winvitational?

[Glork]

I'm not calling you scum. I'm calling you a fucking idiot.

[Glork]

Uhhhhjh, by my count MoS is already lynched. I count 9 votes on him...

Matt, BB, Gamma, CDB, panzer (who is totes scum btw), chamber, SingerNacho, Wyrd (also scum), Katsuki.





At least now MoS might finally learn that being completely fucking useless and then getting all mad at everyone doesn't go over well. On the bright side, MoS never got to call 90% of the player list scum so that be could pick and choose quotes in postgame and then make-believe like he was pinpoint accurate. All he's got is Glork (wrong) and CDB (wrong). Oh, and Axxle kind of, but he backed off on that one but if Axxle does turn out to be scum he'll be all "see I knew he was scum and should have just stayed on him."

[Glork]

VOTE: Glork

I knew I should have targeted you yesterday instead of Chamber.


Anyway, in love with panzerlynch here.

Vote: Panzer

Would also string up Wyrd or maybe evilpacman at the drop of a hat.

[Glork]

Btw, when chamber confirms me as protown, feel free to move onto panzer.

Thanks in advance,
XOXO
Glork

[Glork]

PREDIT: Glork we're not lynching Wyrd don't be a fuckass

Except they're actually scum in this game. :/

[Glork]

Btw, when chamber confirms me as protown, feel free to move onto panzer.

Thanks in advance,
XOXO
Glork

Uh, I can confirm something happened to me at the beginning of the night, you are explicitly taking credit for it?

Absolutely.

[Glork]

Btw, when chamber confirms me as protown, feel free to move onto panzer.

Thanks in advance,
XOXO
Glork

This kind of snarky bullshit, and more importantly, the

actively seeking to be confirmed or proven town

, so all can see, only reeks of more scumminess than you could possibly have imagined.

B A

[Glork]

Fwiw, two of the other three ones are more useful (and of similar nature/category). However, which one *actually* "happens" is determined randomly.

I don't know if your ~something happened~ means there is definitely an SK in the game, but it's worth bringing up publicly despite only one kill last night. I would assume it is reasonably likely.

[Glork]

Btw, when chamber confirms me as protown, feel free to move onto panzer.

Thanks in advance,
XOXO
Glork

This kind of snarky bullshit, and more importantly, the

actively seeking to be confirmed or proven town

, so all can see, only reeks of more scumminess than you could possibly have imagined.

no uberninja you are wrong with everything you're saying in this post

and the sad part is i'm pretty sure you are actually more intelligent than this which means you're dumbing yourself down for one reason or another

ergo

scum

I'm trying to decide if it's too much outside my mafia persona to call "Inferiority Complex" here. I am an arrogant fuckwad in some games, but even that might be a bit much.


But in all seriousness, UN attempts to dial up the rhetoric in pretty much every game I've played/seen with him. It would help if he weren't terrible at it, though, or of he had *any* pull with the player lists. Instead, saying phrases like "reeks of more scumminess than you could possibly have imagined" just comes off as contrived and pointless/ineffective. I honestly wonder if UN thinks he's actually accomplishing anything, or if he's fully aware that he's just vomiting white noise into the games he plays.

That said, he's better off as vigbait than as a lynch right now. And part of me feels really dirty saying that.

[Glork]

Hmm.

Okay, Glork, but is panzer any better off as a lynch than vigbait over UN? If so, why?

Panzer's actual voting habits (and the justification of them -- or general lack thereof) are far more indicative of being scum than UN's. UN is just a cancer in the games he plays, whereas panzer is actually scum that we will probably need to lynch. I'm too lazy to get into justification today, but go look at his post where he jumped on me, and every bit of reasoning he gave. Then go look at him jumping on MoS and tell me it's not the hallmark of opportunistic scum.

[Glork]

@Gamma, who kills people that are suspecting them? Isn't that super suspicious. /in b4 wifom, but then again you already used a wifom arguement to argue against your wagon. Also how is my hop excuse worse than "He's town. Don't care"

BBmolla bad town as always

Vote:Glork

<- still scum

i'll tell you exactly how it's worse

wyrd's vote, although not helpful for lynching scum, stood on its own reasons and got a player out of the game that would generally be an irritating pain in the ass until near LYLO.

given your read on glork, you KNEW that given that a vote on MoS was bad, and decided to justify it you'd do some shitty setup speculation about a scumteam that wasn't particularly likely d1 just from the oddish numbers of the game (2vs2vs12 or 3vs3vs10 are both not particularly good and make way less sense than 12vs3vs1 or just a 12vs4) AND has pretty much been just proven to be absolute garbage given the single nightkill.

And deflecting with 'my vote was less bad than this guys' is way more likely to be scum thinking they can't get called on something because a townie's done something similar that's arguablely worse. No justification at all is way more likely to come from town than a garbage excuse for jumping on a wagon and vice versa.

Don't forget the part where the best "reasoning" for him attacking MoS is "he's playing scumm(ier than usual)." He never even actually calls MoS scum. MoS acts "scummy" as town WAY MORE FUCKING OFTEN than he does as scum. Panzer

knew

that MoS was a mislynch waiting to happen when he jumped the wagon.

And yeah, the multiball speculation was horse shit. Just like it was in my last Large Theme game (Maiden, with GreyICE-scum), projecting mulitball D1 for no apparent reason is a massive scumtell.

[Glork]

"Low-hanging fruit"?

I'm

going after low-hanging fruit?

Literally, out of six people who have voted for me and/or called me scum (MoS, UN, panzer, BBMolla, MattP, Wyrd), exactly two of them have provided

ANY

reasoning whatsoever.

MoS just called me scum and left it at that.

UN's "reasoning" amounts to "Glork is trying to confirm himself, which is scummy" and calling Glork scum a bunch of times and just telling people to wagon him.

Panzer has just called me scum and left it at that.

BBMolla voted me a couple of times but has yet to actually make a comment on anything I have said or done.

MattP just now has decided that I am on his scumlist, in a post where he literally didn't even

MENTION

me

IN A SINGLE FUCKING POST

until he gave his scumlist and just slapped me on it for funsies.

Wyrd has decided to douse the wagon with kerosene with awful reasons which I will get to momentarily.

AND I'M THE ONE

GOING AFTER

LOW-HANGING FRUIT?

Yeah.

Iiiiiii call fucking horse shit on that one. I *AM* the low-hanging fruit.

[Glork]

OKAY. NOW, WHY WYRD IS FULL OF SHIT AND NEEDS TO DIE POSTHASTE. ALSO, MORE ALL CAPS CLEARLY MAKE GAMES BETTER.

Those two have scum in it. Confirmable role my fucking ass. If its not a mason or A friendly bullshit it might as well be trololomod2012.

I'll address this later, obviously, but remind me to quote this repeatedly later on.

And look at his tone with UN. YOU'RE DISTANCING FROM THE MOS MISLYNCH YO

Or or or or or or OR
It's like I had a town read on MoS. MoS has acted like a complete arrogant, ignorant fuckwad in every game I've seen him in since I got back.

Except one.

TM: Closed Normal -- THE ONE FUCKING GAME I'VE SEEN HIM AS SCUM IN, WHERE HE LURKED AND ACTED FAIRLY REASONABLE FOR 90% OF THE GAME.

So MoS acts like an idiot (town tell: check), calls the people voting for him idiots (town tell: check), refuses to cooperate with anyone (town tell: check), flatly states that his claim will get people off of him (town tell: check), is completely unaware of the game state regarding the wagon on him (town tell: check (although to be fair, I don't know that anyone was until Axxle pointed out that he was lynched.)).

I was handed an iPad! I'm as amazed as you are that my reads align with Fate's so cleanly. He's spot-on when he says Brandi = long play for a scum team bunkering down. Brandi fell into the UNLYNCHABLE category; scum didn't feel threatened by reads or potential power play from spoken reads. MATTP and GLORK fit the bill cleanly.

I'll bite, Nuwen.
1) Why do MattP and Glork fit the bill more than other players in the game?
2) What do you know about Glorkscum that makes you believe that he "bunkers down" as scum? (Hint: I will kill you an avalanche of meta if you don't draw this one out in lengthy, explicit detail.)

[Glork]

My issue is that I haven't pinned anyone down as "OMG YOURE SCUM" except MoS and then I started networking off of MoS when that happened (When I called Kat scum)

I still think Kat is scum and at least one of Reck/Wyrd is scum

Glork is a little bit paranoia flakes about his confirmable claim which is bizarre because he just ousted himself as a PR when he didn't have much pressure on him so he just read like he was playing his cards impulsively.

I'd bet one of my townreads is wrong though

pedit: hehe

Uh. You do realize that MoS got lynched as town D1, right?

[Glork]

Oh oh oh oh, do you mean that's why your reads are so fluid right now?

Holy shit, word your posts more carefully.

[Glork]

I was handed an iPad! I'm as amazed as you are that my reads align with Fate's so cleanly. He's spot-on when he says Brandi = long play for a scum team bunkering down. Brandi fell into the UNLYNCHABLE category; scum didn't feel threatened by reads or potential power play from spoken reads. MATTP and GLORK fit the bill cleanly.

I'll bite, Nuwen.
1) Why do MattP and Glork fit the bill more than other players in the game?
2) What do you know about Glorkscum that makes you believe that he "bunkers down" as scum? (Hint: I will kill you an avalanche of meta if you don't draw this one out in lengthy, explicit detail.)

Also, I forgot to finish questioning.
3) What makes you believe that Glork, a self-described "barely-above-average" player -- which can be confirmed by my Team Mafia team's discussion, and the general opinions of people all over the site -- would have enough pull in choosing night kills to lead to him based off of your nightkill analysis?

[Glork]

^^^ that should read "barely-above-avreage scum player," but to be completely frank, my town play has been pretty average over the last few months, too.

[Glork]

Also, a question to both Nuwen and Fate, because I really feel like poking the bear:

If you're really convinced that I'm scum, and there are at least 4 other players who think I'm scum, why are you choosing to scattershot your votes here? Why didn't you follow MattP onto me and drag Reck onto the wagon? Don't you want me dead?

[Glork]

RECKONER:

For sextra credit, why do YOU think Fate chose to jump MattP instead of me? Do you remember... what was it, Square Enix III? When Fate thought I was scum for directing power roles and shit, and just jumped my wagon and wanted me dead there and then? Do you think FateTown wouldn't want to just get panzer, himself, you, UberNinja, and possibly MattP to run CHEEKY SCUMFUCK GLORK to L-2?

[Glork]

Sorry... follow

panzer

. I had just finished asking MattP about his D1 reads list and typed the wrong name. HURR DURR.

[Glork]

But I realize I more or less did the same thing and it was because of being busy elsewhere which I suppose could be true with your situation.

I don't really want to bring it into this thread too much but you (and entire NC commune) know that it's been kind of a shit week IRL, and that's really all I'm going to say about that here.

In Post 519 I said I'd get to the game the next day. Within the next

two hours

, you put him at L-1 and Kats hammered him. I had no fucking idea that his wagon was near lynch, because

I hadn't read a goddamned thing

except a quick ctrl+f on "Glork" and maybe 5-10 posts before 519. Otherwise, yeah, I would probably have tried to stop it. But my mind wasn't in the game really, and I couldn't be arsed to actually read the whole game or count votes until Axxle was like "hey you're lynched" and I saw it the next morning. And to be frank, it's not my responsibility to dissolve the MoS wagon when he's supposed to be perfectly aware of his own lynch status, and he was the one jawing at players going "LOL NOT GONNA GET LYNCHED."

But fine. Whatever. I'm going to bed, because I have work early tomorrow and at this point, the more I look at this stupid thread the more irritated I get. It's really hard for me to give a fuck about having failed to halt the MoS lynch when he brought it upon himself, and I was taking care of my life outside stupid mafia games.

[Glork]

Well, singernacho is town.

[Glork]

Because I was sneaking a peek at the game on my phone at work and the last few posts are all I had time to read.

Also, UN, go back and read, then update your list of read requests, kthx.

[Glork]

I'm interested in your PURPOSE of stating it unprompted.

I HATE YOU MINA HEAR ME FOR I HAVE SPOKEN

Oh. I don't know.

[Glork]

I could compromise to Axxle if this panzer lynch isn't happening.

[Glork]

BBMolla
chamber
Gammagooey
Glork
MattP
Singer is Nachomamma


...are all people I will, under no circumstances (beyond confirmed role-based guilt) lynch over the next couple of days, I think.



I'd technically be up for killing anyone else, although I think I've made my preferences fairly clear.

[Glork]

BBMolla
chamber
Gammagooey
Glork
MattP
Singer is Nachomamma


...are all people I will, under no circumstances (beyond confirmed role-based guilt) lynch over the next couple of days, I think.



I'd technically be up for killing anyone else, although I think I've made my preferences fairly clear.

Terribad list.

I have a cop guilty on Glrok. Proceed with lynch.

RAWR I HATE YOU MINA HEAR ME FOR I HAVE SPOKEN

Is this serious?

1) Uh huh.
2) No, you idiot. He was responding to me including myself on the list of people I wouldn't lynch without a role-confirmed guilty. It's called being facetious.

[Glork]

Vote: Axxle

TOTES BUSING HIM B/C OBV GUILTY ON ME.

[Glork]

What is your rolename and flavor?

[Glork]

fucking lol. scum role cop.

axxle can you change your target to wyrd? let's lynch panzer's shit now.

Unvote

[Glork]

Or we can just lynch Wyrd's shit now and let panzer get vigged.

[Glork]

Oh, I see. So you're a delayed SK. Thanks for the crosskill.

Vote: Axxle

[Glork]

ACTUALLY.

Unvote

I think I'm going to wait until tomorrow on deciding whether he's a delayed SK or not.

[Glork]

I'll say it again, Glork is either a FUCKING MORON or he's scum.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha.


How can I "distance" from being scum with a delayed SK? Are you literally the stupidest motherfucker who ever posted on this site?

Also, let me know how htat crow tastes once Panzer flips scum rolecop. I have half a mind to let Axxle "vig" you tonight, even though you're probably town (but seriuosly, killing Wyrd is a much better decision).

[Glork]

dang bra u mad

[Glork]

But seriously, htere's like a 75% chance that Axxle is a scum SK, but I want that to become 100% tomorrow. For now,

Vote: Wyrd

[Glork]

Fine. Olive branch. I'll cut the crap.

But I mantain that Panzer is going to flip a scum role cop. Town role cops are virtually non-existent in today's site meta, while scum role cops run rampant. But I guess we'll see at twilight. There's really no point in arguing over it now, because it's a done deal either way.

Reck has rubbed me the wrong way a little, espeically with his attitude towards Wyrd. I'm not sure that I feel like it's a scumbuddy interaction, though. It's really the only thing that's give me pause from just going balls-to-the-walls trying to get Wyrd strung up today. I'm thrilled to see that Gamma is also interested, too.

I literally get zero impression from CDB's or EPM's posts, even when I try to look at them in ISO. CDB, can you link me to a recent scum game and recent town game so I can compare notes?

[Glork]

Oh, screw it. Chances are pretty darn high that Axxle is a delayed SK, and not lynching scum is an awful move compared to lynching scum.

Vote: Axxle

[Glork]

Glork you are seriously playing like shit and should be ashamed.

Axxle's claim is literally LOFUCKINGL bad, he's sorry so he's aligned with us? When Panzer flips fucking town and Axxle scum of WHATEVER variety, that should be enough credit to fuckign LISTEN TO US AND LYNCH MATTP TOMORROW.

Tell me that tomorrow when Axxle gets revealed as an SK and Panzer has flipped scum. Don't I remember you lambasting me and defending Panzer? Oh yeah. Both you and your other head. That definitely happened.

I'm genuinely curious to see how you're going to try to spin this into "GLORK IS SHIT AND BUSED PANZER BUT HE IS STILL SCUMZ."

[Glork]

Can someone please explain why exactly people find MattP scummy? The evolution of his reads seems pretty protown to me. :/

[Glork]

oh, the vote? meh, it's ap laceholder until I figure out what the fuck I want to do today. I dont really have the energy to take on Wyrd right now, becuase this game has mostly frustrated me, and my strongest read (panzer) is a walking dead man anyway.

[Glork]

Vote: Reck

[Glork]

I'm pretty sure that there are a bare minimum of 2 scum among {Reck, Wyrd, EPM}. I almost added CDB to this list but honestly I'm having a hard as fuck time reading him, and don't feel like padding my prediction with a complete unknown.

[Glork]

whats your opinion on katsuki glork

Kind of a fall guy at this point. Too many people willing to lynch him with zero/questionable reason. He could be lurking his way through as scum, but iirc that's not exactly his M.O.

[Glork]

6) xRECKONERx
7) evilpacman18
10) Katsuki
13) Panzerjager
14) Singer is Nachomamma
16) Wyrd

^All of the scum are in here, I guarantee it.

This list is mostly excellent and sextasterrific, although I'd rather not see Singer/Nacho lynched anytime soon. There was one person/read that they completely disagreed with that rang really protown to me, but I can't remember it off the top of my head.

[Glork]

Uh...hi Glork?

Meh. Not what I wanted either.

Glork is either scum or fucking terrible as I have been saying all along.
Wyrd is also either scum or retarded, but they must sheep me for the rest of the game so we're all good there, in theory.

Look guys, we need to stop lynching OBVIOUS FUCKING TOWNIES and leaving SHIT like CDB, Glork, Reck, and Wyrd alive.
I can't win this game by myself bitches

Really.
Right about MoS, right about MattP, right about panzer, right about Gamma.
And I'm fucking terrible?

Honestly, UberNinja, I have no idea what your beef is with me, but you need to get your fucking head on straight. One of the reasons I offered an olive branch towards the end of yesterday is because I realized that most of our suspicions line up pretty closely. And you open the day by calling me retarded? What does that say about your own reads? I said I'd cut the crap but if you're going to bring this weak-ass shit for no good reason, I'll keep butting heads. I literally don't give a single fuck anymore.


I really want to hear from Reck and Fatewen.

Vote: evilpacman

for now as a placeholder, but honestly, I really want to take a long hard look at Reck, Wyrd, and Kats, too. There was

DEFINITELY

scum on the back end of that MattP lynch, and I intend to find them sooner rather than later.

[Glork]

Axxle
BBmolla
chamber

ChannelDelibird
xRECKONERx
evilpacman18

Glork

Katsuki

Singer is Nachomamma

UberNinja

Wyrd


Y'know.
If UberNinja would just play nice, we'd have a voting bloc of ultimate winning here.

Lynch among the darkies.
Axxle vigges among the darkies.
Lynch among the darkies.
Axxle vigges among the darkies.
Lynch among the darkies.

If we havent won yet, then Chamber is scum and was possibly lying about Axxle.


I'm debating whether or not to ask Axxle who he targeted last night. I'm thinking wait, because that way the scums can't just derp around... or trololohammer like Panzer did to MattP.

[Glork]

Yeah, I was worried about if I ever had to claim near-lynch, because it would seem incredibly convenient and probably-made-up, considering how little exposure I had to actual ~happenings~ at the meet.

But yes. I'm sure that you're on exactly the right track.


EBWOP: Meta, mostly. I'm not 100% on it, but based on what I've seen from him in WM2, Blood Bowl, and uh... fuck, there was one other game... The evolution of his voting patterns reads natural, too, if that's worth anything. IDK. Go ISO and make a decision for yourself.

I also really want to know what you think of CDB and what you *actually* think of both Kats and Wyrd if you'd just take an hour to sit down and try. Because if you *are* protown, I think we can pretty much hammer this shit home.

[Glork]

For what its worth I think I have more scum reads in those green names than out, so I'm not down with this voting block thing.

Really. Who, specifically, and why?

[Glork]

What's the basis for your BBmolla town read, Glork?

I have no such read. He's fucking scummy as hell.

Scummy as hell is a towntell for BBMolla....

But no seriously, it's apparent that over hte first two days he hasn't given a single fuck what anyone else thought of him, and that fits BBTown meta perfectly and flies directly in the face of BBScum meta. In Weather Mafia II he appealed to Tierce and she flat-out busted him for it. In Blood Bowl, he replaced in and basically decided to sheep me for towncred, and I busted him for it.


Plus, this post is REALLY FUCKING AWKWARD for BBScum to make so early in the game. A vast majority of scums take a much more scattershot approach, and BB never sheeped his buddies in the other two games I mentioned where he was scum.

[Glork]

In the true spirit of this game, I'm going to shit all over this wagon, present scum alternatives (EPM is still scum, and Wyrd knows that UberNinja is an easy mislynch waiting to happen), and be subsequently ignored.

At this point, it's worth knowing who Axxle killed last night.

[Glork]

OK yeah, Chamber is scum and Axxle is an SK. Just like I suggested earlier.

Vote: Axxle

[Glork]

Acxtually,

Unvote

It seems distinctly possible that there is a You Bitch + You Slut + You Whore scumteam and another scumteam of three. And yes, I say this knowing full well that there has only been one kill each night.

Whether that implicates Axxle or not is something I am currently unsure of.

[Glork]

Acxtually,

Unvote

It seems distinctly possible that there is a You Bitch + You Slut + You Whore scumteam and another scumteam of three. And yes, I say this knowing full well that there has only been one kill each night.

Whether that implicates Axxle or not is something I am currently unsure of.

3/3 sounds like a pretty difficult setup to balance.

Especially when you need quantum synchronicity to explain the censor results.

Hammer fucking Uberninja please.

I just don't see six total scum otherwise. 5:1:10 seems fucking awful for town, especially considering the relative lack of power so far. Scum win in 2 days potentially (mislynch, two townie kills, mislynch, crosskill+townie kill, scum can force a mislynch D3). Tell me how the fuck you balance that, considering our protective role was just an Armored Bodyguard (I assume takes 2 bullets to kill) and 3 townies so far. My role has a random element and isn't *directly* useful either.

No, it's much more likely that it's 3/3/10.

Do some math, Nuwen, and stop being dumb. Reck is either flat-out lying, or it's 3/3/10. Take your pick.

[Glork]

Welp, I'm not going to live past tonight now. WTG, Chamber.

How about instaed of being perpetually shit, you let someone else do work around here? Your voting history is literally UN (town power), MoS (town power), Axxle (town power, according to your own result), and Glork (town power). You also managed to basically NEVER take a stance on either Panzer or Reck. If you're town, step the fuck up.

Now, our two remaining scums are probably EPM and Katsuki. Can we please kill either one of them today, and go back to my plan which

would have won us the game if you idiot fucks didn't lynch UberNinja yesterday

?

Vote: Katsuki

[Glork]

Anyway, I'm an inventor who can hand out 3 investigative roles and one useless role -- probably the closest thing our town has to a cop, although I'm sure Chamber is going to pretend like I'm a scum inventer who hands out uesless/red herring roles, which is literally fucking retarded, because think about the two dead scums, and you should have a fantastic fucking idea of what my role is based on the card you recieved. How the FUCK does that make me scum, Chamber? Get your head out of your ass and get on scum for ONCE in this game.

[Glork]

Anyway, Wyrd was probably killed because the scums thought Wyrd was power. (Maybe Nuwen's sudden decision that I was town from D2 to D3?)



But nope. Katsuki has threadshat, and Reck made his distancing play yesterday when I finally put pressure on him to talk about the other *unknowns*. It's go time.

[Glork]

OH AND WE GOT THE MOST USELESS ROLE THANKS A LOT GLORK YOU SUCK.

SORRY, WHICH ROLE ACTUALLY GOES OUT IS DETERMINED BY RNG. IT'S PRETTY GAY, I KNOW.

[Glork]

Oh gay. EPM and Kats are def better choices htan CDB.

Whatever. OKay, here's the plan.


D4: Lynch Katsuki. Axxle burns CDB. Assuming we haven't won...
N4: Axxle targets EPM. Scum kill... Glork, presumably?
D5: Lynch Chamber. EPM Dies. If we haven't won...
N5: Scum kill... Singer/Nacho?
D6: If Chamber was scum, lynch Axxle. If Chamber was town, lynch among... no wait, that doesn't work. We are one person short. TOO BAD YOU IDIOT FUCKS RAN UP


HOld on, thinking. The only play today might be to lynch Chamber, to confirm/condemn Axxle. If Axxle's town, we still have the numbers advantage.

D4: Lynch Chamber. CDB Dies.
N4: Glork/Axxle nightkilled. Axxle targets EPM (if town), or anyone (if scum).
D5: Lynch Axxle if Chamber was scum. Lynch Katsuki if Chamber was town.
-----AT THIS POINT-----
---> If Chamber was scum, {You Bitch, You Slut, You Whore} + SK are dead. We prooooobably win at that point?
---> If Chamber was town, (You Bitch, You Whore) dead, CDB dead, EPM dead, Katsuki Dead. Glork, BBMolla, SingerisNachomamma alive.


Basically, this plan hinges on the three of us (Glork, BBM, S/N) being town. Honestly, it might just be massclaim time at this point. But I *think* Chamber is the only appropriate play here, to cover our asses.

Unvote

while I think and wait for people to tell me how wrong and fucked up my plan is.

[Glork]

Just 3 scum in a 16p game seems like WAY too little. 4-5 is expected.

Given my limited knowledge, can someone help me out? What other roles might exist as scum alongside You Bitch, You Slut, You Whore. Maybe Lucille as Godmother or something?

[Glork]

Molla, I see you reading. Who do YOU think the scums are?

[Glork]

Okay, then yeah we're golden.

Lynch Kats today, EPM tomorrow, ^5 our way to victory.

[Glork]

SOOOOOO.

Chamber town
Glork town
Axxle town
CDB town
SingerNacho probstown
BBMolla probs town
Kats probsscum
EPM probsscum

Ya?

Fuck this shit. I don't even need to hear from Kats anymore. I gots a game to win.

Vote: Katsuki

[Glork]

Unvote

Fiiine.

[Glork]

OH FUCK YOU EPM. IF KATS IS TOWN YOU ARE DEAD NO QUESTIONS ASKED>

[Glork]

ok card sent, hopefully it counts because it was before the hammer

[Glork]

er, before the lynch scene. fml

[Glork]

But then CDB wanted to ~READ~ and I was willing to honor his request. And I hadn't sent in a card yet.

[Glork]

TO WHOMEVER GETS THE CARD: USE IT ON EPM TONIGHT, PLEASE AND THANK YOU. IF YOU USE IT ON ANYONE ELSE YOU WILL PROBABLY GET LYNCHED FOR NOT FOLLOWING MY INSTRUCTIONS. KTHX.

[Glork]

Because I literally just said all of my cards (except the useless one I already gave to Singer/Nacho) are investigative? If EPM gets cleared, you can proceed to lynching BBMolla and then Singer/Nacho.

I'm probably dead tonight, so yeah.

[Glork]

Okay apparently I wasnt the Lynch-1 vote, and EPM wasn't the hammer.

That's fine. We'll give CDB 24 hours to read, and I'm kind of interested to see Kats' final plea. And then we'll proceed with WINNING.

[Glork]

DID YOU SEND IT TO ME TO MAKE UP FOR THE SHITTY CARD YOU GAVE US BEFORE AND ALSO TO MAKE UP FOR ONLY HAVING US AS "PROBS"TOWN PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

~singer

Preview Edit:

I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING IN THE VOTECOUNT...

Really not interested in telling the scums who I gave an investigation tonight, kthx.

[Glork]

OH FUCK YOU EPM. IF KATS IS TOWN YOU ARE DEAD NO QUESTIONS ASKED>

Pretty sure we won't be having that problem.

IF WE GET A GUILTY RESULT ON YOU TONIGHT WE ARE LYNCHING YOU DEAD NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

[Glork]

Yesterday I didnt get a chance to send in a choice. I didn't think UN would get lynched as quickly as he did. But then scumbag Reck put him at L-1 right when Chamber said he'd hammer, and like the idiot he is, Chamber put us to night.

[Glork]

If "being really fucking terrible at mafia and voting for nobody but town power" is part of your plan, good job. So far, so good.

[Glork]

Vote: Katsuki

Lynch-1. You should probably claim.

[Glork]

I don't think I can read katsuki for shit, but I do more or less trust fates ability to read him and he had a town read on kats. This wagon is also showing up the night after he died, don't like this at all.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You trust Fate.
Who thought Reck was town in this game.
Who thought Panzer was town in this game.
Who thought Glork was scum in this game.
Who tought UberNinja was scum in this game.
Who thought MattP was scum in this game.


Honestly, Chamber. What the FUCK?

I mean, not that it matters. Kats is at L-1 and Axxle and CDB both intend to vote him.



Also:
1) How is Great Idea Mafia Lucille-aligned in any way, shape, or form?
2) Why does Kats dying after Wyrd nightkill suspicious in the least?

[Glork]

Didn't answer question #1. I think you know I'm very likely protown, but you're insisting on being stubborn.

[Glork]

CDB, the person who gets a Great Idea card from me tonight is under STRICT ORDERS to use it on EPM. Either he will be outed as scum, or confirmed as town, by dawn tomorrow. Just lynch Katsuki now and we can worry about possible EPM scum tomorrow.

[Glork]

Mmmm. Delicious, delicious victory.

[Glork]

Usually when Chamber is 100% wrong about everything and sheeping exactly the wrong people, he's town. It's kind of a sad towntell, but it's true.

[Glork]

6) xRECKONERx
7) evilpacman18
10) Katsuki
13) Panzerjager

14) Singer is Nachomamma
16) Wyrd

^All of the scum are in here, I guarantee it.

Boop Beep Boop

6) xRECKONERx
7) evilpacman18
10) Katsuki
13) Panzerjager
14) Singer is Nachomamma
16) Wyrd

^All of the scum are in here, I guarantee it.

This list is mostly excellent and sextasterrific, although I'd rather not see Singer/Nacho lynched anytime soon. There was one person/read that they completely disagreed with that rang really protown to me, but I can't remember it off the top of my head.

Axxle
BBmolla
chamber

ChannelDelibird
xRECKONERx
evilpacman18

Glork

Katsuki

Singer is Nachomamma

UberNinja

Wyrd

^5s all around. MattP, you are seriously fucking insane at finding scums did you know this?

[Glork]

NO U GUYZ HES TOTALLY SK EVEN THOUGH CHAMBER GOT AN FBI AGENT INNOCENT ON HIM LOLOLOLOL

*shrug*

Scum can (and will) lie about results, and Chamber was literally doing everything within his power to lose the game for the town.

I do NOT regret keeping the possibility open in the back of my mind, even while I called for lynches on Panzer, Reck, Kats, and EPM... y'know, the entire actual scumteam.

[Glork]

Eh. Lying in that situation as scum means the SK knows you're scum which is tricky going forward. Even if you need the extra kills you probably can't afford to lie about it.

Again, it's situational. It's one of the things that

won the game for the scums in My Little Pony Mafia

. The scums had rolecopped the SK, who was playing like a Vig, and then one of the scums later claimed Vig to get out of being lynched, and the SK left him alive. It was clear that each team KNEW who the others were, but they also KNEW they had to work together for the time being to have a chance at winning.

[Glork]

AND YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM AND WANTED THEM DEAD AMIRITE.

No, but I think it's retarded that I'm getting flak for THE POSSIBLITY OF CHAMBER AND AXXLE BEING SCUM, when there were clearly several town players (you-two, MattP, me, Axxle, and even UberNinja) who actually played really good games.

[Glork]

Yeah, I think gamma was originally getting a bullet. Brandi was superobvtown though by everyone.

And I don't even remember glork actually pushing chamber scum/axxle sk as opposed to saying it was vaguely possible which I suppose it wasn't completely impossible.

Well and that's exactly the point I was trying to make. It was literally "If I die tonight, and you don't win after lynching EPM and Katsuki, consider this possibility, because I am POSITIVE that BBMolla, and Singer/Nacho are town."

[Glork]

EBWOP: Okay, I did consider it after Reck's claim, and even voted Axxle for a brief period of time then, but backed off pretty quickly. Reck's claim was good in that it was sensible and impulsed people into wanting to believe him, but as Singer pointed out, if it were true, he would have been going after Axxle right from the start of that day, not only after he was forced to claim.