Mafiastuck (GAME OVER TOWN WINS!)

[Titan]

Oh shit I already did that this game once whoops. I should really stop doing it it becomes useless because people started getting used to it from me :/

[Titan]

Has pretending it's twilight ever produced useful information? Link if you've got it.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4397113 this produced some useful info before mod posted actual vc.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4062946 this wasn't exactly the same but similar idea

[Titan]

(Fun fact vifam might strongly be green scum also)

[Titan]

((I'll quote the necessary quotes when I get on a computer))

[Titan]

Okay

VOTE: Pasch

Lets just do it, with the rate this is going people are gonna lose interest and the mod will have to pick up replacements.

My name is Tazaro, not Pasch

Oh my bad son

VOTE: Tazaro

This reads fake (since Taz has been in the game for some while now and I don't think Vifam is that inattentive).

Plus here:

Urgh that just might be second guessing the lynch in general now that Malp is close to a hammer

Doesn't add up with the fact that he just decided to hammer Taz right away

[Titan]

Kill it! Kill it with fire!

(anyone else read obv forced aggression?)

[Titan]

This game needs moar activity.

[Titan]

Seriously it's like everyone who is saying they don't want a malp lynch are basically sitting on their hands not even attempting anything.

[Titan]

IF ANYONE CAN GIVE A GOOD REASON WHY WAGON X IS A BETTER LYNCH THAN MALP I'M WILLING TO LISTEN!

[Titan]

As long as X is not a shitty wagon like Cheery who btw STILL doesn't have a logical argument behind his wagon.

[Titan]

I think it's pretty obv malp won't survive long so I don't think it's that much of a biggie to let him live today. Obv scum can sit in a corner and wait till their time comes

[Titan]

I can see noir doing that to anyone tbh so that's not much.

[Titan]

I'M WILLING TO MAKE A VIFAM WAGON WHO'S WITH ME?

[Titan]

I'll also be up for a phill/avox/broodking/mae wagon.

Pedit: Booo zde c'mon we can make something beautiful!

[Titan]

Though malp is still not even trying jeez. I'm really start to think he's jester or something The mod did say this was a crazy game.

Pedit: the only thing that's been giving me a pause on brood is he's reading more newbish than say... scummy.

[Titan]

Though more newbish scum actually.

[Titan]

I propose the following voting bloc;

Titan
Zdenek
Sunshine witch lady
Wutloski
Fate
DGB
Actiondan
Nacho
Porf

[Titan]

Then some people here and then to sheep for a lynch and we'll make something BEAUTIFUL NO ONE WILL STAND IN OUR WAY.

[Titan]

YOU'RE COOL VIFAM YOU CAN JOIN THE VOTING BLOCK.

Vote:Avox

^

Vote: Avox

[Titan]

Actually tbh honest I did find vifam's 2346 really scummy and I don't like his back and forth flipflopping on malp at all.

Fate vifam wagon?

[Titan]

FATE: REMIND ME HOW THIS POST COMES FROM TOWN???

Reads at the end of quantum mechanics and alcoholism debate stage:

Vote: Alsark

Nacho, Alduskkel and Epic are all town.

Vifam's probably not.

Titan, if you think the game can be broken, why would you feel cheated UNLESS YOU WERE SCUM? Also confirmed as not reading the thread

VOTE: Titan

Nexus so town.

Malpscamp do you really think he's being srs? CE and Phil as well? What's wrong with you all?

I love you

[Titan]

I AM V/LA. YOU ARE ACTING STUPID. FUCK THOSE FUCKERS THAT PSEUDO-HAMMERED ME.

NO I'M NOT HERE TO GIVE READS AGAIN. I DON'T HAVE TO.

I HAVE ONE OF THE MOST CONFIRMABLE ROLES IN THIS GAME. JUST TELL ME TO DO SHIT OR WHATEVER.

WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LOVE ME?

So, the next time I pull a role, I can just go lolololololol not doing anything cuz role...suck it!

You have failed to explain why you jailed us. Was it really because of the one post where you claim other head had bad logic because

[Titan]

CE might be a good lynch seeing as Epic was NK'd and his suspicions were Titan + CE, if were going by that those two could be black scum I guess. idktho I just came to that conclusion 10 seconds ago

Did you really just come to that conclusion 10 seconds ago? Or we're you inspired by zdenek who floated a similar idea as well as other head saying you might be scum. Also, of you think we're black scum. Go back and read noir then tell me how likely that is. Ill be waiting.

[Titan]

Why is it with every Ald post I get closer to wanting to punch my screen?

[Titan]

CE might be a good lynch seeing as Epic was NK'd and his suspicions were Titan + CE, if were going by that those two could be black scum I guess. idktho I just came to that conclusion 10 seconds ago

Did you really just come to that conclusion 10 seconds ago? Or we're you inspired by zdenek who floated a similar idea as well as other head saying you might be scum. Also, of you think we're black scum. Go back and read noir then tell me how likely that is. Ill be waiting.

Look. Vifam's black may be white, and vice-versa, but he's sounding transparently town.

I know what transparent town looks like, I have a mirror. This ain't it. This looks to me like throwing random shit in the air to see what sticks and to make it look like you're busy. Also, if we are potentially scum because epic expressed suspicion of us, but didn't even try to push us, why are we black scum? Why aren't we just scum? Why the differentiation?

[Titan]

Hey look vifam knows black scum shot epic.

[Titan]

TO DIE LIST

Malp
Avox
Phill
Broodking
Maenara
Vifam
Sanjay/cE

EVERYONE DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO TO REMEMBER IT. PRINT IT OUT. HANG IT ON A FRIDGE. PUT IT IN YOUR WALLET. MAKE OUT WITH IT. JUST REMEMBER IT!

[Titan]

I agree with #2448 concerning Mehdi's spec about the felt scum team. It's unlikely to have JOAT + redirector/roleblocker + another roleblocker + goon (since other team flipped goon).

If Malsaspc is scum I'd have thought it to be felt scum.

So this annoys me. Unless he's totally bsing his role... but I doubt that.

I'd really just like Cheery Malsaspc AV Maenara to die. If Mals isn't felt scum I'd go back to Buldar being felt since I've been under the assumption that they're mutually exclusive as felt scum due to D1 play.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cheery Dog

WTF put your shit back on a better wagon!

[Titan]

Btw agree that Mehdi's plan is rather dumb and if both PRs are telling the truth we'll likely be wasting both a JK and a vig shot. This town really can't be this fucking horrible

[Titan]

Unvote:
Vote: Cheery Dog

WTF Fate I thought we had a deal?

[Titan]

fate much posts but no say lots

Well Vifam has 200+ posts of pure awesomeness.

Nvm 90% of them are fucking fluff and have basically random shit in them.

Oh wait...

That's

why he's scum.

[Titan]

People saying that claiming JK is scummy should just vote themselves and shut up for the rest of the game.

STOP FAKING ANGER IT'S REALLY,

REALLY

WAIT,

JUST IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT REALLY MEANS:

Merriam-Webster defines really as:

re·al·ly adverb \ˈrē-(ə-)lē\

1:
a : in reality : actually <things as they really are> <there was nothing peculiar about her doing this, really — Peter Taylor>
b : truly, unquestionably —used as an intensifier <a really beautiful day>
c : very 2 <look really close> <he runs really fast>
2:
—used to emphasize an assertion <you really should read Yeats> <really, you're being ridiculous>

REALLY, REALLY, OBVIOUSLY FAKE.

[Titan]

I'm literally trying to strongarm some lynches here I think I deserve the right to post some fluff when I feel like it, god damm it

You have literally been pushing like any wagon that gains some wheels?

Except Cheery.

[Titan]

Malp, Avox, whatever, they're both scummy. But if you honestly don't think Avox is not suspect at all, I honestly just dont understand you

How is this strongarming lynches when it's basically LOL YEA LET'S JUST GET A LYNCH GUYS IDGAF.

[Titan]

Who do you want lynched most right now Vifam?

Like, if you were a compulsive dayvig right this second who would you shoot?

[Titan]

I'm trying my best to get Avox lynched and you're voting him, I don't see why we have to argue with each other.

It really doesn't seem that way though.

It seems more like you're giving a soft push here or there to a leading wagon to show that you're putting some effort in.

[Titan]

I mean like 3 pages ago you seemed all set on an Avox lynch and you did demonstrate the qualities you said in the above post but soon after you just turned back into the IDGAF mode.

[Titan]

Also you're just really condescending, I liked it better when you weren't trying to shoot questions at me every time you post.

It's because I think you're scum

[Titan]

I really don't want you lynched just yet though you're one of the few things that entertaining in this game and I'll really be fucking sad if you go.

[Titan]

I actually rather enjoyed Cheery's post and it shows him trying.

[Titan]

congrats on your british scum victory tammy.

Thank you!!!

I'll get to this game tomorrow.

[Titan]

Vote: Malp

This day needs to end.

[Titan]

HI SHINORI.

[Titan]

HI TAMMY.

It's Arthur D:

[Titan]

Is anyone willing to give me some sort of overview. OR do i have to start reading from like page 50 or something?

You're town, so your best bet is to follow The List

^TM

:

TO DIE LIST

Malp
Avox
Phill
Broodking
Maenara
Vifam
Sanjay/cE

EVERYONE DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO TO REMEMBER IT. PRINT IT OUT. HANG IT ON A FRIDGE. PUT IT IN YOUR WALLET. MAKE OUT WITH IT. JUST REMEMBER IT!

[Titan]

This lynch is going through. Idgaf if the slot is town anymore, and if he is telling the truth. I'm fucking tired of the attitude that b/c you're a PR LOL PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE SUSPECTING YOU.

Either you gtfo or you're getting lynched. And if you were town you would've either attempted to be useful by now or have gtfo.

[Titan]

But in all seriousness I don't like how malp responded to Vifam today.

You voted before Malp responded to Vifam though

MARVEL AT MY AWESOME CHRISTMAS AV!

[Titan]

Cheery was my shot.

Wut.

Wut.

Why????

[Titan]

Is it that hard to follow The List

TM

.

[Titan]

Cheery was my shot. Assuming por shot I'd have expected 4 deaths not 3. Beyond that main change is one of the counter wagons to malp is pretty likely scum (although apathy in that lynch affects things a bit) and currently VOTE: Brood.

Why didn't you shoot brood then?

[Titan]

Mehdi did you shoot on day1?

[Titan]

xtoph was a really stupid shot if porf did it.

[Titan]

Vifam posted a thing

Maybe it's not a case but I like to think it's better than anything else right now

This is prob the closet thing to crumbing his cop result if he had any, as dan said.

[Titan]

Anywho I won't be on much this week with finals.

But I think Tammy said she'll be more around this day so yea.

[Titan]

*sigh*

I was hoping a nice night kill would keep me from having to tackle this monster. I need to take a look at Arthurs THE LIST, but i have a ton of papers to grade so that's not going to happen before the weekend.

[Titan]

AHAHAHA

HAHAHAA

AHHAAAAA

Vote: Maenara

.

[Titan]

Hey arhtur I think a Santa hat on Titan would be kinda awesome.

[Titan]

No.

Just no.

She was clearly (from her POV) bandwagon someone who people were suspecting. Plus she is putting the first vote on him, so it's making a commitment to not show wishywashness.

----

Tammy, will put a christmas av this evening

[Titan]

There are so many awful people in this game

[Titan]

...okay, okay, I misunderstood.

Jeez.

It's been a long day. Calm down, will you?

Told you I needed to re-read.

UNVOTE: Vifam

Yea... you would think so

but no.

Please die scum.

[Titan]

Wtf is sanjay doing.

Oh right he replaced cE.

Which is on The List.

[Titan]

PS Maenara if you were really town you would've read... well, I can say you could've read well, but you didn't even have to read that deep to get the jist that me and dan were saying he crumbed vifam as inno.

Your vote just looks like a plain attempt at bandwagoning done by lazy scum.

[Titan]

Told you I needed to re-read.

So you just like throwing votes without reading at all.

Because if you would've just SKIMMED good you would've got the jist.

PS reading indicates you have already read once.

Your post indicates you didn't read at all, and just saw something that caught your eye and decided to go with it.

[Titan]

PPS (or am I on PPPS?) Mae even if you had been right and we were saying the opposite it still would be awful because we were only saying he MIGHT have been crumbing, which was nothing solid at all, esp not vote worthy (cuz that's a rather dumb reason to base a vote on a fantasy situation).

[Titan]

It's been a long day. Calm down, will you?

I don't mean to sound rude.

But how is you having a long day and then coming in here tired and scumslipping our problem.

Obv you'd expect people to jump on you.

And if, IF you are town (you're not, but IF) then you'd see where we're coming from.

The best thing to do is just let it wash over you until you're lynched. Really no point in fighting it.

[Titan]

and will you kindly either shut up,

lynch me

or start talking about something else,

I do sincerely wish I had 12 votes.

Sadly, I don't.

But what I CAN do is repeatedly call for your head.

(tbh since this lynch is already determined for today, we should really waste the day either, I agree).

Avox, where is the ~effort~ you've been promising us?

[Titan]

How come you are all so quick on this wagon? How come this has blown up in less than four hours?

Your scumbuddies are bussing you?

[Titan]

This is stupid.

Assuming maenera is not a criminal mastermind who is next leveling me into making the following argument, regardless of alignment, this was a real case of failed reading comprehension.

How poor reading comprehension is a scum-tell is beyond me. If anything lack of precision in your words seems townish to me.

Well tbh you're scum so whatever.

(And I stopped taking you seriously with your weird voting anyways).

[Titan]

I still think this is a dumb lynch though (kind of similar to all my remarks on mae yesterday). And the scum slip is what? Thinking it was a guilty and jumping on a wagon. Well if it was a guilty that people believed to have been hinted the wagon would have sprouted either way. So that leaves skimming. Yeah great argument.

Wut.

The argument is that town have a lot, lot, LOT higher percentage to actually look closely before voting.

Scum can just notice something quickly and jump on it.

[Titan]

I have maenara as a scumread, but I think jumping on her for this is...

So why are you arguing against it again? Shouldn't you be happy one of your scumreads are being lynched? Different people can have different reasons for getting on a wagon, but at the end of the day, the same person is getting lynched?

Because this seems like an attempt to go against the crowd to be original.

[Titan]

^

This so much.

(buld's post)

Pedit: No.

[Titan]

That's still very Flimsy

Actually you have the deas syndrome where you feel the need to go against the majority to be original.

I really don't see why something can't be "flimsy" but still worth pressuring on.

You're trying to stop something in it's tracks for no reason.

Nor do you have a better course of action at this moment.

[Titan]

Different people can have different reasons for getting on a wagon, but at the end of the day, the same person is getting lynched?

[Titan]

I really don't see why something can't be "flimsy" but still worth pressuring on.

You're trying to stop something in it's tracks for no reason.

Nor do you have a better course of action at this moment.

[Titan]

AVox I still want some damn content from you soon or you are getting strung up next.

You know this is pretty hypocritical.

[Titan]

HEY LOOK THIS GUYS VOTIGN WELL

Wut.

Like, seriously?

Look at why he voted.

It makes no sense.

Kk.

Proceed to vote her.

[Titan]

One of the pronouns is wrong there.

[Titan]

Did I already mention zdenek is town?

Well, he is.

[Titan]

Mhm

Unvote
Vote: Vifam

[Titan]

Hello, Bumi

Sorry it sucks to have to catch up so much

Anyways, I compiled a list some time ago about the most suspicious people that almost everyone agrees on, and we're trying to pick them off right now

Malp

Avox
Phill
Broodking
Maenara
Vifam
Sanjay/cE

[Titan]

They all pretty much are very incriminated, so feel free to ISO them or whatever you wish, and then rank them in order of the way you want them to go

[Titan]

No.

I'm playing as two players.

Both "Ogre giant" and "blue shirt boy".

So it's like I control 2 different players, each with a different role PM.

The "blue shirt boy" has already claimed insane, and most people tend to believe him.

[Titan]

Bump - if you're going to give us a nickname based on our avatar, please get it right. We are not an ogre-giant. WE ARE A GOD. Please give us an appropriate nickname. Kthnxbye.

[Titan]

I had your name right, auto-correct decided it was wrong :p

[Titan]

Tammy look out your window.

If you see this scene with Bumi standing there:



You should prob call the cops

[Titan]

Mae if you honestly think that's how scum think and put that much effort into one post then I have bad news for you

[Titan]

---> http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 5&sr=posts

Not sure about Tammy.

[Titan]

LOL hi Arthur!

Bumi - not posting for one day is being inactive? Arthur was posting on Thursday.

Anyway, we're a little less active right now because its the end of the semester and Arthur is studying for finals and I'm busy grading. I know I said I wouldn't be doing anything before the weekend because of it.

What are you waiting on from us?

[Titan]

Oh mehdi I know you asked us a question. I really can't answer it because I've been Sheeping Arthur's oracle. I'm not sure if he saw the question, but when I get caught up in the game, I'll answer it.

[Titan]

PS as for our "inactivity":



Pedit: Hey Tammy :p

[Titan]

Can we lynch avox now? Pretty please? I'll give out ice cream cones.

[Titan]

Oh right, Arthur said he voted vifam for some purpose can't remember what but that I could change it :p

VOTE: avox

[Titan]

I'm happy enough that BT, S&R, and Mehdi are alive and speaking like normal people.

There I managed to cheer myself up.

you're not happy I'm alive and talking like normal people?

I even promised Arthur I'd get caught up and start putting in effort and everything.

[Titan]

LOL hi Arthur!

Bumi - not posting for one day is being inactive? Arthur was posting on Thursday.

Anyway, we're a little less active right now because its the end of the semester and Arthur is studying for finals and I'm busy grading. I know I said I wouldn't be doing anything before the weekend because of it.

What are you waiting on from us?

I just wanted you to be here.

I am still mulling over what to do with you.

Would you be okay with a blood sacrifice? Your own blood sacrifice?

Okay, so stuff like this must be why arhtur said you give him the creeps.

You could night kill us; we're fine with that.

[Titan]

*arthur...swear I know how to spell.

[Titan]

So, in my effort to catch up, I just isod xtopher and ctrl-f vifam.

Avox - if you weren't scum I'd be really disappointed in you right now for pushing this vifam wagon. In experimental when you were a Joan and copped parama day one after suspecting him quite a lot, you dropped your suspicion of our slot in exactly the same way the next day. So, on the off chance you happen to be town, care to explain the push of this wagon.

Actually, anyone pushing this wagon can explain it with something better than caps lack of reasoning.

The turn around in xtopher's treatment of vifam should at least be enough to give you pause and realize this is a stupid wagon today.

[Titan]

*joat damn autocorrect

[Titan]

What's the case on vifam though? And why are you ignoring the cop who went from voting vifam day one to praising vifam on day two for utilizing towns power in Post 2585 ?

Why should we ignore that?

And every one of avox's post come across as fake and oily. I've seen avox as a town pr and he didn't play like this. His play is objectively extremely scummy.

[Titan]

No it's not a breadcrumb, it is a complete turn around in his attitude from day one to day two. ISO xtopher and ctrl-f vifam. Tell me if that doesn't give you pause on wagoning vifam? If not, why not? People don't just drop suspicion over night like that for no reason at all.

[Titan]

Hmm...let me consult THE LIST

[Titan]

oh buldermar's not on it.

[Titan]

I guess if it comes down to it I'd rather lynch Vifam than Av.

Why?

[Titan]

Oh, I just realized that Titan must be town.

[Titan]

lolol at all the planning.

[Titan]

Then again i haven't really read the last 10 or so pages but who cares.

[Titan]

ebwop yes bumi

[Titan]

serious question to bumi and mehdi when do you sleep?

[Titan]

anywho i'll be back on thurssssday i'll let tammy put in ~effort~ till then (i hope?). i was just bored of studying and needed to troll because lol.

[Titan]

nah bumi i think you're fine you seem fine most of the pages in this game are just trolling or spam.

just remember the follow THE LIST. maybe modify it a little and you should be good.

[Titan]

then mae has to go obv?

[Titan]

I don't think Phil is scum and I remember commenting on it earlier, I forgot what I said but I know it made sense

vifam being contrarian doesn't make you cool just fyi.

[Titan]

dat fencesitting by vifam.

[Titan]

To go means be lynched/killed or be removed from the lynch. Last page has me basically saying I know he's town by role stuff.

that's too much for me to actually look back plus lol.

tammy shall put in ~effort~.

[Titan]

Okay is this the Titan head that's dumb

i think so judging by his seemingly level of ignorance.

[Titan]

mehdi you're cool go modify my LIST and post it here in a noticeable color so i see it when i come back.

[Titan]

what about vifam and sanjay

TO DIE LIST

Malp
Avox
Phill
Broodking
Maenara
Vifam
Sanjay/cE

EVERYONE DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO TO REMEMBER IT. PRINT IT OUT. HANG IT ON A FRIDGE. PUT IT IN YOUR WALLET. MAKE OUT WITH IT. JUST REMEMBER IT!

[Titan]

vifam be honest do you make up things as you go along?

[Titan]

cuz I could've sworn you just said half an hour ago you don't want phill lynched.

[Titan]

Vifam be honest can you point to the exact timing or post or w.e that makes you think I'm magically scum.

[Titan]

I don't remember a day w/o you softly saying I'm scum yet YOU DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.

[Titan]

in fact if someone can point to any strong opinion that vifam has had in the game I'll stop bothering about this.

[Titan]

[ Umm sorry but I kinda assumed saying you don't think someone is scum means you don't want them lynched.

I don't think Phil is scum and I remember commenting on it earlier, I forgot what I said but I know it made sense

[Titan]

Anywho I'm down for sanjay

vote sanjay

[Titan]

The only time when I even IMPLIED you could be scum is when I was talking about the NightKills, which you decided was me taking a huge stab at you. I even told you I wasn't pushing it and that you need to just chill the hell out.

You're really annoying

I'll look at this later but fairly sure you did that soft push yesterday too.

What about the phill thing? The fact you just said you don't think he's scum then 3 seconds later you don't mind his lynch?

[Titan]

The only time when I even IMPLIED you could be scum is when I was talking about the NightKills, which you decided was me taking a huge stab at you. I even told you I wasn't pushing it and that you need to just chill the hell out.

You're really annoying

I'll look at this later but fairly sure you did that soft push yesterday too.

What about the phill thing? The fact you just said you don't think he's scum then 3 seconds later you don't mind his lynch?

What about Phil?

where the fuck is that town-read coming from

who am i shooting tonight, ill give you the option to choose for me

Everything he's said since D1 has seemed pretty town tonally. Plus lets not forget the fact that Tazaro pulled a half ass push on him towards the end of his life so chances are he isn't part of the light green scum in the first place, just based on that simple interaction. That's enough for me to think he's town at the minute so he's a bad lynch/vig shot/whatever

Yeah it was this

I guess he could be black scum due to recent events but eh idk

I even said "Due to recent events" what are you getting at? I have no idea what point you're trying to make

Too bad for your 3221 where you said you think he's town?


I'm trying to say to complete turn around on the phill wagon is lolbad.

[Titan]

I'm okay with the Sanjay wagon. I agree with bumi I think who said that cryoto could have been bussing a buddy for early town cred, plus epic was pushing them pretty hard day one as well.

I'm eh on avox's claim. The claim doesn't make him town, but some of his play today looks a little townish. Still very suspicious of him. I'm trying to get this straight, as a watcher he didn't actually read the thread but chose the faraday hydra just because it had faraday in it? His claim to not know that porfevor had claimed, makes me a little less confident in him being green scum as faraday straight up told me that porfevors early claim made him likely town when I asked him for his town reads on day one. But as scum, watching your partner is good play so meh. He's not getting lynched today, so I'll just set this aside right now and see what he brings.

Vifam - I'm the one that confronted you about the suspicion over the epic night kill not Arthur. I was trying to get a read on you, and zdenek had floated that already, so it made me suspicious in the way you brought it up.

Mehdi - did you shoot anyone night one? Also, if you have a way to confirm someone's alignment, why shoot cherry night two without confirmation? I'm not trying to get you to out your role because I basically believe and am town reading you, but I'm trying to make sense of some of this.

Okay I'm tired. I'm working on catching up and still need to look at the people on THE LIST.

[Titan]

why are we still in dayphase

[Titan]

i actually love nacho.

[Titan]

can i proxy my vote to nacho for the rest of the game please?

[Titan]

i mean he's town ---> i mean he COULD be black scum ---> let's vote him
is
...?

<3

[Titan]

vifam still hasn't explained why his opinion changed over the span of a half an hour.

which is cool since it just means he needs rope.

[Titan]

Okay I'm not gonna repeat myself

repeat indicates you said it once already.

*cricket sounds*

[Titan]

Wagon wise again I'd rather consolidate on brood, but at this point I just don't want to be dispersed everywhere. Titan would you switch to brood (same question to everyone voting sanjay right now).

bloodses, what is this bloodses precious?

[Titan]

Prodded, about to go to work and then I'll be crashing after that, don't expect content from me for about 16 hours.

don't worry we haven't expected content from you. like, all game.

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fun fact shinori you have less posts then the number of times i altslipped.

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Not sure what that means (assuming why swap), but if the assumption is right since currently I have brood as a strong scum read (reasons found before) and sanjay to be better for his own play even if his predecessor hurts the slot.

yes yes, but what is this bloodses? why this bloodses? precious needs to know. precious likes where it is. precious feels safe.

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Tammy you're creeping me out tonally. Brood who's on your list is the one.

That wasn't me mehdi. I went to bed after the post where I said I was tired. Also, I don't troll the same way. I think cramming for finals is driving Arthur insane. I'll look at brood. I know he's on the list, but I don't remember anything about him and am still catching up. Hopefully I'll be done with that tonight.

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I'll look for it later, but did porfevor say who he tried to shoot night one?

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I guess it doesn't really matter though if he was redirected and the redirector is the tpe where you redirect the action of one person to a different person of your choice.

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I'm okay with the Sanjay wagon. I agree with bumi I think who said that cryoto could have been bussing a buddy for early town cred, plus epic was pushing them pretty hard day one as well.

why can't sanjay be green scum?

Manju what are you doing strutting around naked like that! Sanjay is A-okay but I was wondering if people could say why they are voting him besides wheeness?

I suppose he could. Paschendale threw a little suspicion on him and nacho in his early posts but didn't really mention him after that. However, his interaction with faraday doesn't look very partnership. And there was an earlier post where faraday said something ce was fairly townish, and I would expect a different type of statement from faraday concerning a partner as that seems pretty weak and boring. I'll look for the interaction that didn't seem very partnerish though.

My question though if Sanjay is green scum why would pandorica choose to bus Paschendale but call ce fairly townish when they had both aroused a bit of suspicion? And from what I remember ce had more suspicion and was being pushed by noir and epic. So why not bus ce and leave Paschendale alone? Paschendale was a joat so i couldn't imagine it being for role reasons.

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"I have a made-up post restriction where I always make a bunch of worthless posts in a row."

FTFY

i'm literally a professional mafia player please don't insult me by calling my posts worthless.

Yeah, there's no PR there. Suspicion has begun.

why?

Please ignore Faraday. He's a moron. I need to control him.

Noted.

NOTING WHAT?

Vote Noir

cool alt, guy

I thought there was more, but this.

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Well it's going along as I read so I'll end up reading the flips fully later anyway. And explain how pasche looks scummy for x is bad?

From where I'm at other read wise is town on titan, xtoph (primarily for 262), nika's slot, and deas. Saw some discussion on vifam but so far weak town read.

Mehdi - if you had role related reasons tht made maenara for sure town from night one, why didn't maenara shoe up in your reads list at the start of day two here? This post comes after deasvail voted maenara and AD said she could be black scum.

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Oh I think I'm misunderstanding mehdi. Something maenara said at the start of day two confirmed her as town to you because of role reasons, not that you have an innocent on her from the mod?

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I thought there was more, but this.

Who wrote this and what was it addressing?

Tammy and its addressing my last post where I said there was an interaction between ce (now Sanjay) and faraday that I thought made it less likely that Sanjay is green scum.

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Mehdi - without giving out more information about your role than you have to, is maenara mod confirmed innocent to you?

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Me + mae + bumi + dan + S&r + buld + titan + BT

Anyone you'd argue for/against town block wise?

pretty sure nacho + wutloski should be on it too. personally i would put dgb and zdenek, but w.e.

oh and take out bumi buld and mae because lololol idgaf if they're town or not i'm not blocking with them.

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actually wait you can keep bumi i like him he's cool.

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I would be interested in being part of a townblock.

Zdenek is probably my favourite lynch now then.

lol

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town bloc of horribleness will achieve nothing, sooo

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an actual bloc to work has to consist of both town players and fairly goodish players. or at least not to badish.

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Well it's going along as I read so I'll end up reading the flips fully later anyway. And explain how pasche looks scummy for x is bad?

From where I'm at other read wise is town on titan, xtoph (primarily for 262), nika's slot, and deas. Saw some discussion on vifam but so far weak town read.

Mehdi - if you had role related reasons tht made maenara for sure town from night one, why didn't maenara shoe up in your reads list at the start of day two here? This post comes after deasvail voted maenara and AD said she could be black scum.

I could have, but the point would have been? I gave myself a reason to town read mae soon after that when I saw her posting, but I didn't want the town read to look like it was for role reasons before I decided to claim.

Tammy she's mod confirmed town to me.

Thanks.

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I would be interested in being part of a townblock.

Zdenek is probably my favourite lynch now then.

lol

I don't understand your point.

there is no way we're lynching zdenek.

plus you don't seem to have any other strong scumreads.

thus you'll derail the bloc.

plus i don't even know if you're town or not.

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I find it a bit un-freaking-likely that Mehdi has both vigilante powers

and

way of having players modconfirmed to him without their knowledge.

EBWODP:
Why did we assume there'd be two vigs, again?

I *think* porfevor even assumed there'd be more than one. I don't think it's something to be too concerned about right now. I'm town reading mehdi anyway, but claimed vigs don't last long, so even if there was some chance he's on one scum team, the other one is going to shoot them sooner or later.

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If it can get votes controlled even if most of the decision is by the better players it works.

okay. lets fucking do this this way.

me, tammy, mehdi, bumi, dan, S&r, BT, nacho, and wutloski if you're around (and i guess mae and buld) rank these three from most want to least want to lynch

brood
phill
sanjay

i would presonally put vifam and fate on there too but people seem to not want vifam and i haven't read back that much to see what happened to the fate wagon.

(ps quil should be in the bloc too i think)

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(pps that isn't my ranking btw. it would be (from most to least want lynched)

sanjay
brood
phill
)

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Me + mae + bumi + dan + S&r + buld + titan + BT

Anyone you'd argue for/against town block wise?

pretty sure nacho + wutloski should be on it too. personally i would put dgb and zdenek, but w.e.

oh and take out bumi buld and mae because lololol idgaf if they're town or not i'm not blocking with them.

What? I'm not reading dgb as town for one and zdenek is yet to be seen. Torg is cool and funny and all but eh and I'm not sure what nachos doing right now, though I think he's town.

But bumi, buld and Mae are fine.

Are you just intentionally trying to piss people off because that's what it feels like you're doing. I know you like to push people to get reads but it's going a little bit too far and sometimes doesn't seem to have a purpose and is really unprovoked - like this post.

I'm all caught up with the thread and need to do a couple Isos which I'll do in a bit.

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Nope. Don't care.

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Tammy go on AIM?

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I'm not at my computer.

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Nope. Don't care.

I respectfully stopped acting creepy and you can't even do this?

It was one post.

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titan is trying to seem like they're towntelling imo (regardless of actual alignment since i do that shit as both)

Don't be a bad poster. Titans not trying to do anything. Listen to your other head. Arthur was so obvtown last day phase it wasn't funny anyway.

Your slot hasn't gotten on my nerves this whole game don't start now by spewing crap when you don't know what you're talking about.

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Don't be a bad poster. Titans not trying to do anything. Listen to your other head. Arthur was so obvtown last day phase it wasn't funny anyway.

my other head says arthur looks like scum and you're doing damage control. i guess i should be voting you.

Cool, so you're into mislynches. Arhtur looks like town. He's bad posting on and off but he's town. You have to learn to tell the difference, look for motivations.

Nacho had it right day one. There's no way no how I'd let Arthur have the reigns and be the dominate player in a scum hydra and let myself get so far behind that I barely posted and basically sheeped him, not when I'm the one who comes off more town usually anyway.

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Oh, by the way, Sanjay's reaction to his wagon is leaning pro-town for me. He basically ignored his wagon, which is really weird coming from town or scum, but is weirder from scum than town.

I actually semi-agree with Mae.

Ald, why is Sanjay ignoring his wagon read "pro-town" to you? What is pro-town about ignoring the growing wagon on you as opposed to attempting to defend yourself or address points raised against you, etc?

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titan is trying to seem like they're towntelling imo (regardless of actual alignment since i do that shit as both)

Don't be a bad poster. Titans not trying to do anything. Listen to your other head. Arthur was so obvtown last day phase it wasn't funny anyway.
Your slot hasn't gotten on my nerves this whole game don't start now by spewing crap when you don't know what you're talking about.

But the other head thinks Arthur looks like scum >_> Get a QT you lazy bums.

We have a QT...I don't like to look at it though because it's filled full of my arguments on why Faraday was town.

Well, Arthur may have some bad posting now and then, but he's town. Read my posts; I'm the Rational Head^TM after all

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Okay, me and Tammy have talked, and we both more or less agree on Sanjay being the most scummy.

Both the others are also scummy as hell, and each have their reasons, but we both agree Sanjay/cE is big money.

In addition to cE's scumminess and Sanjay doing nothing much to redeeme the slot (imo), Noir could've either been bussing, or Tammy says he also usually has strong scum gut reads, both leaning towards cE being scum.

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Okay so some of this is going to come in fits and starts as I'm balancing grading with mafia right now...

I've been trying to think about the make up of the scum teams. We started off with 30, so would two teams of four be right? Or do you think they'd be larger because of their being two vigs? Not to mention a jailkeeper and a cop. I don't think it's any less than four because I don't see pandorica bussing a partner so hard day one if it's three.

Who I feel really good about town-wise: Mehdi, Action Dan, Shinori, maenara, bumi.

I feel decently good about: sunshine and rainbows (I have a tendency to read shadoweh as scum, but action Dan has them as solid town and I know they can read each other well, tbf I'm probably putting them here instead of higher because I'm a little annoyed at basically being called a moron), vifam (had a really strong gut scum read on vifam day one and two but the xtopher turn around and his attitude to it reads really town), Nacho, and torgonitoh (okay I just really love his posts and it clouds my judgment).

Scum reads are Sanjay, Phil and brood.

Still need to do some Isos. Maybe tonight maybe later.

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I'm giving 3 points to the highest scum read that the townies post, 2 to the second scum read, and 1 point to the 3rd.

Okay, based on the rankings thus far of everyone who has voted {me, Tammy, Mehdi, Bumi, S&R1} it's:

Phill 9
Sanjay 9
Brood 12

People who still need to vote {S&R2, dan, BT, mae, and I guess buld?)

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Oh right, didn't mention, Tammy ranked Sanjay --> Brood --> Phill on AIM.

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And I think it's only fair to give S&R 2 votes since they're a hydra too with 2 people w/ different thoughts that have the same role PM (which people read as town).

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(also I cannot stress how important it is for the voters to not attempt to sway the system by ranking in an attempt to force your first scum read to become first, ex giving your second scum read third position if they're already first to give them less points in an attempt to make them lose first position.

that's of course if you're town.

if you're scum knock yourself out, since you're already getting a say in a

town

voting bloc )

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I'm re-reading backwards, and wasn't looking for any "hints" because it doesnt matter to me when they are both solid town

Sanjays a fine vig target, as is everyone on this fire bomb list:
13. Phillammon
14. torgonitoh [holy shit who IS this seriously?]
15. ActionDan
19.

Titan (Ser Arthur Dayne/Tammy)

21. BroodKingEXE
22. ζ (lowercaseZeta)
23. Zdenek Alsark
24. Shinori Shrimp85 Guy_Named_Riggs


with actual SCUM still:
Zdenek
ActionDan
Vifam

You make me sad, and you are better than to think that.

I'LL SAY IT IN ALL CAPS IF THAT WOULD HELP.

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Well for what it matters. I'm a vanilla townie. Dunno if he claimed that or not. WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE LYNCHED FOR JUST JOINING THE GAME QQ.

I forgot about this. Shinori scum is capable of faking this and its an easy claim. A safe shot but definitely not one of my BETTER KILL HIM NOW shots

PFFT. You know better than this too. Shinori's a try-hard scum, who'd make up some ludicrous fake claim or some power role to try to sound important. Hes lazy as town.

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No he's right if AVox IS town he's played stunningly bad

LOL

SO ITS THIS CARD

"MAN AV SURE HAS PLAYED LIKE SHIT YOU CANT BLAME ME FOR CALLING HIM SUCM"

NOP

NO

This is a terrible interpretation. Avox's play was bad. If he does end up being town it was bad. Do not pass go; do not collect $100 bad bad bad. If he's honest with himself and with everyone else, he'll admit it was bad. There were legitimate reasons to think he was bad. And it wasn't *power role*. I've seen him as a power role and he didn't play like this.

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You guys are just spamming and pissing around.

VOTE: BroodKingEXE

Why don't you have any reads lists?

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why is sanjay so terribad

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PS avox don't copy my PS

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tbh i actually like brood claim

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doesn't change the fact he had horrible play through out be eh

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lolwtfisthisshit

do you think he's fake claiming or he's read claiming but scum?

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same question to like avox and everyone else who thinks brood is scum.

[Titan]

i would really <3 a sanjay lynch though.

[Titan]

BIG MONEY

stop with the other pitiful wagons.

SANJAY IS BIG MONEY.

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Otherwise, I'm inclined to (and would advice others to) disregard every read you make, unless it has been explicitly agreed upon by both heads.

Orly?

me and tammy are supposed to force each other to think alike or something?

or better yet

here's an idea

we're two different people, on the same account

if we don't agree on a read, then it's really stupid to not say them anyways

the purpose of a hydra is to discuss reads sure cuz we both know we're town so we'll help each other on reads and maybe someone sees something the other doesn't etc

but LOL if we're supposed to agree on everything.

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Also this points to BExe being greenscum because he would claim TO be looking for greenscum, aka his own team, so black wouldn't shoot him and he could always sacrifice a buddy of his for teh POINTS if his claim was bought.

no

this is actually exactly what stops me

if brood was fake claiming or w.e i can see him at one point expecting to point sacrificing a buddy for town cred (otherwise he could've just claimed something else)

the problem though is unless green scum have a scummier person on their team, i think it would rather be really stupid for brood to attempt to save his ass now only to claim a guilty on one of his partners later

not to mention that if he's green scum he'd prob only have 1 partner left and saving himself now to out his partner later is stupid

because even if he gains towncred black scum will shoot townie people anyways so if he's thought of as townish by most people he won't survive till endgame (or maybe he can but he'd be taking a risk)

and if he's not though of as town then he just risked outing his partner for towncred when he's not even sure if he's gonna gain towncred or not

it's a big risk to take if you're partner is not one of the most suspected people

i know reads can change through time etc so he'd never really be sure how people will read his partner in a day or two

but eh it's still a big risk regardless

which i don't see brood doing at all

esp if he only has one partner left

maybe if green scum are 5 i caaaaan maybe see it but still ehh

so he's either black scum telling the truth or he's town

imo

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Why did the wagon stop? Everything about Brood's claim seems like it was pretty lazily put together.

see above post

the "claim" is not

as lazy as it seems

if brood was scum

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damn you new page making me both look stupid

and bury that awesome post down there.

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Wait, why can't they're be more than 3 Greenscum, again?

?

i think it's 4 green scum

2 dead

and if what fate says is true that brood is green scum

then it would reaaaalllly be a risky move to claim that because he only has one partner left

i really don't think it's 20:5:5 though because that's unbalanced

gorrad did say this game was crazy so you never know what to expect but still

(even IF he had more than one partner green scum brood would still be risking outting one of his partners at a later time who unless they're scummier than him would be less scummy than him so i don't see why he wouldn't just choose to die now)

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I'm going to allow a round of "can anyone explain this role" before placing a vote on it.

same question to like avox and everyone else who thinks brood is scum (do you think he's fake claiming or he's real claiming but scum?)

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If he's greenscum he's probably telling the truth but he's still scum.

he telling the truth that he can hunt for green scum when he's green scum?

based on your logic he might be black scum who could hunt for the other team

or he's green scum who's fake-claiming (or at least modifying his role a little).

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hmmm Vifam so you're black scum right?

omg great minds think alike

selective scumhunting anyone?

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If he's greenscum he's probably telling the truth but he's still scum.

he telling the truth that he can hunt for green scum when he's green scum?

based on your logic he might be black scum who could hunt for the other team

or he's green scum who's fake-claiming (or at least modifying his role a little).

I'm saying he's modifying the role a bit, with his claim you can kind of tell he put in a few tweeks here and there to make it look a little more believable.

the fact that you're not considering him to be black scum and you seem like you're trying to fit everything to him being green scum is making it look horribly forced since by your logic (and if you're town) you'd believe he was black scum (or at least have some chance of being). basically obv selective scum hunting here.

you had good run though vifam

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he's not confirmed cop immune though

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mehdi i think you know what to do

[Titan]

(actually the fact vifam still didn't replay - when he usually replies fast to everything - pretty much just incriminates him more)

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PS titan i love you!! <3 i'm still not sure if you're town or not but still.

okay i'm out for now.

[Titan]

wow totally meant that as fate

i mean i love myself but i'm not that creepy to talk to myself.

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Nacho had it right day one. There's no way no how I'd let Arthur have the reigns and be the dominate player in a scum hydra and let myself get so far behind that I barely posted and basically sheeped him, not when I'm the one who comes off more town usually anyway.

You can't sheep your own slot when you only got one vote, so fuck off with this bullshit explanation.

That's unnecessarily hostile especially when you're not seeming to understand what I was saying and what s&r are accusing me of and what nacho brought up in the first place. He said In an earlier post tht he didn't think I would let Arthur be regarded a the dominant head in a sum hydra, which was quite an astute observation. Sure, we only have one vote, and I never said otherwise; however I have been explicitly Sheeping his reads nd actions as I got behind and just followed him without giving input. This is very unlikely to happen in a scum hydra of ours. I wouldn't be doing damage control after the fact as s&r are saying, it would be something I'd have done pregame and would be continuing on throughout the game nonstop.

As far as your later request. Arthur's not a dumbfuck and theres really no reason to call people names. We probably won't sign our posts because of forgetfulness. Well I've never been able to remember to sign a post, but we're quite easy to tell apart.

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Okay I don't know anything about flavor so broods stuff went over my head, even after reading the wiki. Apparently our dream self is a moon of derse or something like that or we were killed there or something. I don't know. Don't think we have anything to do with a ring though.

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Well for what it matters. I'm a vanilla townie. Dunno if he claimed that or not. WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE LYNCHED FOR JUST JOINING THE GAME QQ.

I forgot about this. Shinori scum is capable of faking this and its an easy claim. A safe shot but definitely not one of my BETTER KILL HIM NOW shots

PFFT. You know better than this too. Shinori's a try-hard scum, who'd make up some ludicrous fake claim or some power role to try to sound important. Hes lazy as town.

idk never seen him as town. Last time I saw him as scum he freaked the fuck out and suicidebombed into me under no pressure, here he claims VT (again under barely any pressure). Seems consistent to me

Yeah I know, I replaced into that game as his teammate after he did that. I've seen him a couple of times as sum. He's awkward but he tries o look like own by putting in effort and trying o seem like he cares about wha is happening to town and it comes off super priced and weird. Once as a mafia rolecope he claimed watcher and super bussed his partners. I've seen him a town claim his role for no reason and be overall lazy and unconcerned, which is what I'm seeing here.

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"youre just being intentionally ignorant and onerous for the fun of it..."

Well now I am, have fun continuing being pissed off. Any impetus I has to try to be work with you just went out the window.

You're welcome!

Also, your whole post is silly and contrived.