The Reckoning II: Invitational - BLOODY CONCLUSION!

[elvis_knits]

VOTE: trollie

[elvis_knits]

Hey reck why did you choochoo axxle and then in the same page make this huge case on UT, when neither axxle or UT had posted in the meantime?

[elvis_knits]

Hey reck why did you choochoo axxle and then in the same page make this huge case on UT, when neither axxle or UT had posted in the meantime?

Oh I really don't like this

"I have an opinion about something but instead of just stating it I'm going to turn it into a pointless, accusatory question"

It had a point!

I like what reck answered too, so neener neener, it helped me.

I don't like UT's unvote. That makes his original vote on reck look like OMGUS that he tried to disguise as meta. Reck called him on it and UT had to go "oops, busted, unvote."

VOTE: UT

[elvis_knits]

This seemed reasonable:

The vote on UT was much stronger than random reaction wagon on Axxle and so I skipped the bullshit and decided to just bag us a scum

Also, I realized I don't usually scum being so overly eager to post reads on everybody, which means you're probably legitimately trying to be helpful.

Also UT's unvote was scummy as fuck, which made me think you're right, and which gives you more townie credit imo.

[elvis_knits]

nhammen, level with me, are you scum?

[elvis_knits]

No. Your posting hasn't set off any bells for me yet, but I am having the paranoia feeling that you alluded to...

[elvis_knits]

^^iknorite

[elvis_knits]

RVS is over, baby. You can move right to voting UT.

[elvis_knits]

Reckoner made a case on UT and he OMGUSed Reck with meta being his reasoning for voting reck.

Reck showed that was BS so UT had to unvote. Shows his original reasoning was BS and likely manufactured to cover OMGUS. OMGUS on its own wouldn't necessarily bother me, but hiding it behind a BS reason shows you think there's something to hide, some scummy intent.

[elvis_knits]

because when elvis is town, she attaches herself to a strong player and sheeps their reads until one or both of them are dead

Hey UT, who do you think is scum?

[elvis_knits]

Well, we need to stop excusing scummy behavior as merely lol anti-town.

And by that I mean Adorkable and Trollie need to die.

Give me more, UT, give me more.

[elvis_knits]

I'm getting a flying under the radar feeling from ythan and confirmed town. Like theyre trying just enough to look involved without actually doing anything.

Although, on iso, confirmed town made one good post so maybe they're ok.

[elvis_knits]

UT why aren't you voting anyone

[elvis_knits]

RECK -- you and adorkable are confirmed to each others?

[elvis_knits]

well i just wanted to make sure you were saying you were both town because the mod said so or if you just assumed it or whatever because the role was masons.

this makes me want to lynch nhammen.

[elvis_knits]

Dammit that's how I feel about it, nhammen.

What are your reads at the moment, btw?

And wutwut is with all these masons? (I mean, I'm not claiming masons too... I do not know nhammen's allignment.)

[elvis_knits]

Probably because you've done nothing in this game but vote reck for horrible reason.

If we're gonna not lynch any masons, I think I support Kdowns or ythan lynches. They seem to be trying the least.

[elvis_knits]

Ok i feel a bit retarded bring this up now, but kept thinking about the comment reck made about adorkable needing fire. I have been trying to understand it as lulz, but it just kept bothering me because i would just never fucking do that and most people wouldnt either to a mason.

Anyway, isoed reck to try to understand and i find adorkable also on reck's scumlist.

His scumlist? How could that be anything other than serious?

RECKONER WTF

[elvis_knits]

That seems like the opposite of what you should do.

What is that advantage to doing that?

[elvis_knits]

Can we never discuss meta again plz.

[elvis_knits]

No easily traceable ties to my mason buddy if I am to die early?

Ireally don't get this because you claimed so easily.

[elvis_knits]

Hey I'm dumb... reck are you saying you really faked mason or not.

I am not hip enough for these confusing jokes.

[elvis_knits]

Ok so is this right:

Reckoner gets wagon going on UT
Some people start complaining about how anti-town adorkable is
Rackoner claims masons with adorkable
Adorkable does not say "WTF DUDE, NO WE'RE NOT MASONS!"
Fate claims masons with UT
Reckoner votes Fate
Reckoner admits he fake claimed masons

Why the fuck would a person fake claim masons?

Why the fuck would the other person not correct the fake mason claim?

VOTE: reckoner

[elvis_knits]

Reck fake claimed to push the lynch he wanted.

How are we not lynching him?

[elvis_knits]

oh my God this game.

There are too many people doing stupid shit and running around like crazy monkeys.

I didn't post last night because I was trying to figure out if I believed Reck was lol mason claiming. I really... didn't get it as a joke. And I don't think other people did, but maybe I am wrong? I kept asking questions because I felt like maybe I was missing something, but nobody was helping me out, definitely not reck posting gifs and shit.

So is Fate joke claiming masons with UT also?

GOD.

Can we please have nobody claiming joke fake claims anymore?

Can we not have these meta conversations?

Can we not have people being crazy monkeys?

I mean, it's fun and all, but is making it really fucking hard for me to sort through what is even happening, let alone who is scum. I can't be alone here, judging how we can't really get anybody very close to a lynch after 20 pages.

I think that Reck and Fate need to take a step back. NEITHER OF YOUR CASES ARE VERY GOOD AT ALL. I'm sorry, I'm not seeing anything that compelling about Fate's yelling or Reck's yelling.

I think I have basically given up trying to really sort out whose case is better than whose, because I don't really like any of them.

So my current thinking is that if we have a lot of strong-minded towns jumping around like crazy monkeys, that I would like to kill somebody who is not being helpful. There are several people who aren't particpating enough -- hohum, grimmjow, ythan, trollie. Even adorkable and axxle seem liek they're not trying very hard, even though they have been slightly more active (if i recall correctly).

I really think Ythan is the most obviously unhelpful. Of 11 posts, two have been "post." He hasn't voted. He hasn't called anyone scum.

SO IN A GAME WHERE WE ARE ALL CRAZY YELLING MONKEYS ATTACKING EACHOTHER WITH SHIT CASES, we are doing a really good job of confusing ourselves without even needing scum to do a damn thing. So what do scum do? Sit back and let us implode. Then sit back while we blame each other, since they did nothing to even push a case, ever.

VOTE: Ythan

[elvis_knits]

You should actually read the posts I made where I've calmly explained why Fate is scum instead of going IT'S ALL YELLING

Was it this one?

Sounds p. fucking paranoid to me

FATES GONNA ATTACK ME OVER X BETTER CIRCUMVENT THAT

Scum

mindset OUT THE ASS

HOW IS THIS NOT DEAD YET

WERE NOT FUCKING AROUND WITH OTEHR WAGONS TODAY

[elvis_knits]

I want Reck and Fate to do a brohug and then vote Ythan.

Plz.

[elvis_knits]

buuuuuuttttt kdowwwwnnnnssss

Reasons plz

[elvis_knits]

His entrance into the game was bizarrely overdefensive while at the same time he was attacking other players for it, he developed weird stigmatizing combo reads (both fate and reck aren't the same alignment) that seem arbitrary and don't make logical sense from a protown perspective IMO (he's not saying, "X is town", he's setting up two mislynches and fencesitting) and he basically is useless

HMMM

Nobody is as useless as Ythan

[elvis_knits]

It's not a policy lynch.

Ythan has posted 11 times, 2 have been prod dodges.

None of his posts have been longer than one sentence.

He hasn't voted anybody.

He's obviously not looking for scum.

That's scummy.

[elvis_knits]

:/

Are you telling me we can only lynch ut, reck, or fate?

:/

I guess UT is best choice of those. But I'm gonna have to read and think a little more.

I still think Ythan deserves to die.

[elvis_knits]

Ok so VOTE: fate

Also I support nuwen winning the dance party thing.

But I don't know what hated townie is, or why gamma would vote for nuwen for dance party.

[elvis_knits]

also I apparently got drunk and have no vote so


I'm literally a tree stump at this point heh

Also, is this just for today or what?

[elvis_knits]

also I apparently got drunk and have no vote so


I'm literally a tree stump at this point heh

Also, is this just for today or what?

[elvis_knits]

If there's no harm in testing it we're gonna test it so, wheeeeeeee.

[elvis_knits]

Also can we play find the busser on the UT wagon pls?

[elvis_knits]

I am really not feeling fatescum.

dance vote: Gamma

Pretty much 100% sure he's town, not *that* certain of Nuwen.

Why would you vote gamma when even gamma is not voting gamma ?

What is wrong with nuwen?

[elvis_knits]

Also

dance vote: nuwen

[elvis_knits]

I just reread UT, and the strongest thing i took from it is that adorkable is prob town. UT was pressuring adorkable for stupid reason even before he was under pressure himself. Probability of UT bussing adorkable at that time is low.

[elvis_knits]

This is how I feel about the game, FTR. I think I got a little retarded yesterday so I'm posting this so that other people can maybe help me refine it if I'm being stupid about some stuff.


TOWN
Reck
Nuwen
Adorkable
Elvis

LEAN TOWN
hohum
Trollie
Nhammen

NEUTRAL
Confirmed Town
Gammagooey
Grimmjow

LEAN SCUM
Axxle
Kdowns

SCUM
Fate
Ythan

[elvis_knits]

No.

Actually, I think we should like L+2 Fate just in case of strange voting mechanics. The fact that we apparently have a role that can take away your vote makes me think we should take nothing for granted. We need to bury Fate with votes.

[elvis_knits]

Regarding axxle being scum, this post seemed strange to me at the time, like axxle was fake crumbing:

Someone should governor him for more trolls.

If it takes fate extra votes to be lynched then I would probably favor axxle dying next. If fate's role needs extra votes to die, then the scumteam was probably going "ohoho one of us can claim governor when fate fails to be lynched! teehee!"

That's a lot of if's but I'm just putting that out there now while i'm thinking of it.

[elvis_knits]

Oh yeah

Lol

Sorry.

I got carried away there... oops.

[elvis_knits]

what you need to know: I cant vote him anyway so i cant help u

You mean your votelessness was not just for yesterday?

It's for all game??

:/

[elvis_knits]

nhammen needs to post and vote fate