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I think it means the battery drains faster when there's a lot of spam that lacks content. But it drains more slowly with true activity.
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The embrace of posts yes, as I think the battery also drains when there is lack of activity, but not needless spamming.In post 15, Pjovek wrote: No, Mr. SK this does sound wrong.
There is no meaningful way to differentiate between "true" activity and spam activity, thus, I find it more likely the battery feels warm and cozy in the embrace of posts.
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This is the type of pointless spamming that needs to be avoided. I couldn't possibly had an opinion on your silly reads list including people who have not posted.In post 18, Pjovek wrote:
What is your opinion on my case on Oversoul?In post 17, Tammy wrote:
The embrace of posts yes, as I think the battery also drains when there is lack of activity, but not needless spamming.In post 15, Pjovek wrote: No, Mr. SK this does sound wrong.
There is no meaningful way to differentiate between "true" activity and spam activity, thus, I find it more likely the battery feels warm and cozy in the embrace of posts.
Therefor, needless spam is encouraged.
But, if you or Oversoul ever flip scum, thank you for this potential link.
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Where did MattP say that in this thread? Just looked, can't find it.In post 33, Whimsical Eggplant wrote:
Hello, nice to meet you.In post 28, Oversoul wrote:Hello,
No.In post 28, Oversoul wrote:Whimsical Eggplant, are you Mastin
I'm not particularly familiar with this site as of now (played a few games on the site a long time ago), but from the games I've been reading lately, it doesn't seem like people try to break the game too often or without good reason. Why not just enjoy the mod's really cool setup and play the game properly? (I'm not against what's being advocated, but I feel that it is much more useful near theendof a game, when we all have more information. At this point, we know next to nothing, but scum have a pool of information between each other, and are much more likely to benefit from our information.Agreed with mattp(town read) that releasing flavor is a bad idea.
I'd also like to comment that silly joke votes at this point will be met with a quicklynch as we're definitely no longer in a random voting/checkin phase (I forget what the acronym for this is ) There is no reason for anyone to not have a vote down at this point, so please put your vote on someone and provide a reason for it.
I feel that Tammy is trying to feign content by discussing game mechanics/merely commenting instead of scumhunting. Therefore I will
VOTE: Tammy
How is MattP a town read for you when all he's done is comment and not scumhunted? In fact, I'd like for you to point out the big scum hunters.
Also, I can't tell if this is town arrogance or scum arrogance. I'm trying to figure out where you get off ordering people around. You really aren't familiar with this site are you.
And my vote on MattP is anything but silly. I know what I'm looking for and Matt hasn't provided it yet.-
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Why does Matt look town?In post 28, Oversoul wrote: Matt looks town-
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Cool. Why is it suspicious. And I'll totally admit to it being suspicious, if you can point to where I was posting at this site in the meantime and then hopped to it to do some scumhunting because I was called out. And if you really think someone saying I'm not scumhunting on page two of a mafia game makes me get all skittish and run to scumhunt, you clearly don't know how I think as scum.In post 36, Syryana wrote:
He's your scumbuddy, isn't he.In post 31, fferyllt wrote:I've been thinking about that newbie game. I assume pjo gambits no matter what alignment he is.
In post 33, Whimsical Eggplant wrote:I feel that Tammy is trying to feign content by discussing game mechanics/merely commenting instead of scumhunting.The timing of this scumhunting is most suspicious.
Scum: fery, Pjo, Tammy
I think finding three scum before the end of Page 2 is some kind of record for me
Why don't you ask me why I'm finding the Matt town reads suspicious? Show me you're actually interested in determining my alignment.-
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Yes, let's. You lead. I know all the dances, am prepared and ready, buddy.In post 41, Syryana wrote:
1)I want to see his response on why he has a Matt townread. His point about Tammy is good.In post 37, Zdenek wrote:Syryana, what do you think of Whimsy? Why are you voting ffrey?
2)Reaction trolling, naturally.
VOTE: Tammy
Pedit: Oho! A fight! Let's dance, Tammy-o!
Oh and just for the record, the timing argument is weak. I got that shit called on me in YOLOville. I respond to things as I get to a thread. And IF I were scum here, getting called out for not scumhunting, I wouldn't even reply until tomorrow just to avoid the timing argument. So, you should probably catch up on a scum game of mine and read how I actually play. It's not this.-
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It's the truth. You should check it out. I'm very careful as scum about those things.In post 43, Syryana wrote:
It's completely irrelevant whether you were posting elsewhere on the site. The point is, Whimsy-boy over there calls you out for not scumhunting, then you make a post yelling at him, and two minutes later you start scumhunting.In post 40, Tammy wrote:Cool. Why is it suspicious. And I'll totally admit to it being suspicious, if you can point to where I was posting at this site in the meantime and then hopped to it to do some scumhunting because I was called out. And if you really think someone saying I'm not scumhunting on page two of a mafia game makes me get all skittish and run to scumhunt, you clearly don't know how I think as scum.
Why don't you ask me why I'm finding the Matt town reads suspicious? Show me you're actually interested in determining my alignment.
I already know why you find the Matt townreads suspicious. And I've already figured out your alignment
Pedit: And more self-meta! This is glorious!
Darling, if you figured out my alignment, you wouldn't be voting me.
And it is relevant. The suggestion that only makes sense is if I were here and posting and ignoring this thread until I got called out, and then 20 minutes later decided to scum hunt. Which I maintain I actually was doing with Matt and with the pjo kid. So, yeah, that all you got.
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What gambit did he make?In post 53, Oversoul wrote:The gambit thing looks like Matt from First Time the whole gambit thing. Plus I'd rather Matt be town than scum since it will make my life so much easier.
Flavor for this game is uh... Gonna be interesting to say the least.
Tierce does it ring any bells to you? Based on the comments made by certain players?-
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It's...why I voted him and told him to town tell within five pages. He should be one of the players here, who if town, I can get a town read on pretty quickly. I was hoping for a different kind of response to my town-tell post; it doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I don't see how any of his three posts make you read him as town.In post 57, Oversoul wrote:Umm... I'll let you figure that one out.
Since you seem to know when Matt is acting townie or not, I assume you are aware of his play?
It makes me a little suspicious of you though because I get a bit twitchy when people give strong players early town reads for nearly no reason.-
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My shoes have a mine detector. I'm like, untouchable.In post 56, Syryana wrote:
Pedit: I HAVE LACED LE FLOOR WITH MINES, IN THEM YOU SHALL STEP-
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I know. You probably are too.In post 77, Syryana wrote:
Nah, you're town.In post 70, Tammy wrote:Hey Syryana - I have some grading to do. What you should do is call me out for something. I'll come back in like 20 minutes and hop to it to get it done.-
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My magic eight ball says no. Don't know what that means yet, except I'm disappointed my easy peasy town read hasn't made it easy.In post 179, fferyllt wrote:
did he?In post 10, Tammy wrote:VOTE: mattp
You have 5 pages to town tell...go!
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I've never been accused of have a pretty good scum game before so <3.In post 255, sword_of_omens wrote:Tammy– Is also null..although I have her on my watch list, as her scum game is pretty good and I’d hate to get caught with my pants down…
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I've decreased the amount of walls I make. Pretty much depends on my mood, how much time I have, and how I'm thinking about the game. I played one game where I wrote only five walls the entire game! I'm sure there will be walls, just not right now.In post 275, Katsuki wrote:Tammy I remember you loving to post MOI-style of walls... whatever happened to that? (though I guess I'm not complaining but I'd rather not have another me in the game )
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I was leaning that way, but your posts were ones I wanted to read through again to be sure. But I like this, it has that "hey idiot, can't you tell I'm town yet cuz you should!" quality that I like. (not that I think you'd call me an idiot in an insulting way, but you probably get my point.)In post 287, Tierce wrote: Tammy: if we can get you to see the obvious (hi--I'm Town! ^__^), you, Syryana and I could probably do something awesome with this game.-
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Pretty much the same thing I thought in my reply. I don't know anything about him other than what I read in a gd thread about ongoing games, so i dont know what to expect. I dont like his first post, but without follow up, im not sure. I was thinking something different than what has been brought up about the potential slip. I'll keep that until he either responds or is replaced though.In post 293, enomis wrote:In post 289, Zdenek wrote:
@Tammy: What do you think of Whimsical plant?
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I am getting the feeling that whimsical would be replaced and we can't question him further on his post. Hurray!
What is weird about him potentially getting replaced though is that in the sign ups he was giving katsuki a bit of a hard time about playing but possibly replacing out. He said he wouldn't barring external circumstances and talked about how he really wanted to play, so him being gone is eh.-
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Sorry I misread. It was katsuki who said he wouldn't be replacing out barring external circumstances and wanted to play. It was in response to him asking why he was playing if he would replace out. Drrrr.In post 335, Zachrulez wrote:
I never looked at the signup page much after actually signing up. Now I think I should.In post 334, Tammy wrote:What is weird about him potentially getting replaced though is that in the sign ups he was giving katsuki a bit of a hard time about playing but possibly replacing out. He said he wouldn't barring external circumstances and talked about how he really wanted to play, so him being gone is eh.-
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All right...leaning town on zach, but that should become easier to nail down in the coming days. I also don't think the ffery wagon is a great wagon, but I'd like to hear syryana's read on her since I know they're hydraing. I'll probably look up a game or two of hers when I have some time after work tomorrow. (damn you empire, do you see what you've done to me?)
I know I've still got my rvs vote on Matt, but I really don't feel comfortable moving it. I also don't know who else I would want to move it to at the moment. I feel like I have a couple decent town reads, some leaning town reads, but not a whole lot of leads for scum. That's probably because I've read this so quickly though. There are some things I want to look into, which won't happen until tomorrow after work. Maybe then I can nail down my thoughts on Matt and explain it.-
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Katsuki doesn't read walls unless they're about cupcakesIn post 344, fferyllt wrote:@Katsuki, did you read the Syry part of that gawdawful wall I posted at the top of this page?-
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I think I did play decently in that game, and is probably one of my best scum games at MS...and I sadly didn't win. I still think I have a pretty poor scum game and don't really have people thinking I have a pretty good one. So that's really kind of a thank you that you think I do.In post 350, sword_of_omens wrote: Meanwhile…
Considering you came pretty damn close to winning Abarat for your team, even after they all fell apart so early in the game i'd beg to differ...In post 273, Tammy wrote:I've never been accused of have a pretty good scum game before so <3.-
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Okay I haven't had a chance to read up on ffery like I said I would (and it might wait until tomorrow) but my first thought is that this comes from town.In post 369, fferyllt wrote:
The irony.In post 368, Tierce wrote:Big freaking surprise, fferyllt. I'm one of the most easily distinguishable players on the site if people can be bothered to read up on my games.
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Having a glass of wine and catching up on games while I wait for my dinner to cook. What are you doing?In post 372, Zdenek wrote:Tammy, what are you doing?-
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Waiting for more from him. I don't like the first Egg post, and am bummed that he replaced out before responding. Don't know what to think about Antagon yet, and I'd like to actually read through the thread in one sitting to get a handle on some of my reads that are floating.In post 374, Zdenek wrote:Just finished dinner and debating whether I should try to get some work done.
What do you think of W. Egg/Antagon?
But, what I did think was possible with Egg's first post wasn't necessarily that Matt had mentioned not claiming flavor in the QT, but that he meant to mention you when he mentioned Matt, and saying Matt was by accident. Now, I'm suspicious of Matt anyway, so it's possible that he just put Matt's name there because it was one he recognized from the QT, but that might be tinfoil area.-
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Matt is being fake. You should vote him.In post 377, Tierce wrote:There's no bad logic there. You're trying to dodge me, Matt. Please explain your reasoning.-
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Uh-huh...Matt what do you always claim as scum? Oh VT?In post 381, MattP wrote:
You're saying it's an "easy" vote as if "easy" and "scummy" are mutually exclusiveIn post 377, Tierce wrote:There's no bad logic there. You're trying to dodge me, Matt. Please explain your reasoning.
I don't like this logic, you know it sucks and you know I wouldn't go for an easy vote like that
Ffery didn't build steam and it was a scare tactic based on a fairly reasonable scummy post from ffery
Since I'm at L-1 I'm going to claim now. I'm a VT, my name is Rosalina, from Mario
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Listen to this girl she's an alcoholicIn post 380, Tammy wrote:Matt is being fake. You should vote him.have you been talking to empire?
Dismissing me won't help you.
Oh FAKEIn post 385, MattP wrote:Oh FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
I thought that one vote one me (L1) was the same thing as (L-1)
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...you can do better than this Matt. You're not even trying.In post 391, MattP wrote:You guys have big poles in your butts, Christ-
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Fortunately, I have a high threshold for people accusing me of being stupid on the internet.
So, Matt, what are your reads? Hmmm?
Also, first off, you can answer me this...
Why did you intervene in the Syry/me dance early game?In post 68, MattP wrote:Syryana protip you should stop wasting your time with Tammy-
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Of course it was obvious that I was town, but you didn't take the opportunity to use that to gain reads on anyone else? Did that help you with a read on Syryana at least?In post 395, MattP wrote:
Because I knew you were town from Marketplace?In post 394, Tammy wrote:Fortunately, I have a high threshold for people accusing me of being stupid on the internet.
So, Matt, what are your reads? Hmmm?
Also, first off, you can answer me this...
Why did you intervene in the Syry/me dance early game?In post 68, MattP wrote:Syryana protip you should stop wasting your time with Tammy
You do know that my claim was a troll, right? Because I'm pretty sure that was completely transparent
I don't feel like giving reads ty
You have to do better than that, Matt.
I think you're claim was you pretty transparently trying to fake a derp town tell, but that might just be me. Ask your scum buddies how transparent that was.-
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You did not answer my question if you got a read off of Syry from our interaction.In post 414, MattP wrote:Are you going to just completely blow off ffery's posts pls let me know ASAP if I should go study instead of waiting here to deal with denseness
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Oh I'm crying right now Matt.In post 417, MattP wrote:I have a VERY SMALL sense of patience for stupidity
I am TRYING MY BEST to be patient with you only because you're unfortunately town
Please be civil by using your brain
I am town, and quite fortunately so. Has it been so long for you that you got a scum role pm that you forgot how to pretend to be town?
Can you stop being dismissive and actually play the game? I repeat I have a really high threshold for people insulting me on the internet especially when it's based on a game where someone tries to use the tactic to make me doubt myself. IF you are town, and IF you want me to think you're town, act like it.
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In post 419, fferyllt wrote:
Ok, so this was a genuine reaction, I think. All that capslock was bullshit.In post 416, MattP wrote:The troll was me acting confused about how lynches work
If you think that I did that for towncred then fine but stop being moronic-
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Why do you think that reaction can't be faked?In post 424, fferyllt wrote:
No, I don't think you are lying, not with that reaction.In post 420, MattP wrote:
Lolwut? So I'm genuine town but lying at the same time?In post 419, fferyllt wrote:Ok, so this was a genuine reaction, I think. All that capslock was bullshit.-
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OH NO! Someone's paying attention to me, I suppose I should post in this game.
My interpretation of your posts today.
Matt tell me. How valuable do you think it is for someone to interrupt another person's attempt to get a read on someone early in the game? Do you think you have the capability of realizing when someone is trying to get a read on someone early in the game?
How many reads do you have so far in this game? It's what 18 pages? You don't have any reads? A scum read on ffery? A town read on me?
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Oh am I?In post 431, MattP wrote:
Would you like meta proof? Because you're very blatantly tunnelingIn post 430, Tammy wrote:Yeah you're scum and should hang.
Cool. What are your scum reads besides ffery if I'm such a horrible tunneler? And make it for something that sounds real. Because all you've done lately is lame.
You never did answer my question. Do you think you are capable of telling when someone else is trying to get a read on someone early in the game, and do you think it's valuable to step in? If so, what is your read on Syryana from our interaction?
I think you're scum, so yes, I'm going to push that until you actually do something to make me think I'm wrong. Oh and hint: Insulting me won't make me think I'm wrong. Sorry.-
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Since when did your pressure on your suspects amount to the flaccid attempts you've done so far with ffery? You really didn't try to do anything but occasionally make a post like "oh um gee guys ffery's escaping pressure and you all are letting her." You didn't even actually try to read her.In post 433, MattP wrote:I wanted pressure on ffery so I tried to stop distractions
I'm not giving reads, sorry
Since when do you interrupt someone else's attempt to read someone at the beginning of the game with "your wasting your time"?
Since you bring up marketplace, you used an early scum read on me that you pushed like crazy the first few pages of the game and continued to push even after you started town reading me, to get reads on not only me but other people posting. Your push on ffery lit is nowhere even close to that. You feel like you're attempting to fake your town obnoxiousness with "I'm bubbles inside" in Post 76. You didn't actually push your big scum read to the point that she even notes that you haven't put much pressure on her.
Your entire play so far has been to be dismissive and insulting to people who suspect you, and to lamely push someone else as scum. And if your town play has actually devolved into not actually doing anything and calling other people in the game stupid or moronic, I'm very sad for you because you used to be a good player. But, I don't see anything coming from you right now that makes me think you're town. And you can call you're claiming an obvious troll all you want. It looks completely fake to me, as does your entire play this game.-
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Matt is perfectly capable of faking that amount of AtE as scum. The fact that that is the bulk of what he's done coupled with dismissively insulting anyone who suspects him is troubling, but I'll expand on this in my post to Matt at some point tonight.In post 514, implosion wrote:I read Matt's recent posts. Matt is almost certainly town.
I read Zach's 182 in depth. I don't like it. Some of the points are legitimate rebuttals, but trying to defend the push on pjovek is a bit odd, and calling the difference between pushing for a full or a partial massclaim a "semantic difference" when it is in fact a rather large difference seems to be sidestepping the main point that's being made, which is that his push lacked context.
As i continue reading his iso, nothing sticks out as particularly townish. He made a specific point earlier that his reads are subject to change, implying that this is important. I feel like he's dismissing a lot of Mattp's posting as scummy when it's just bad play. I use the word dismissing here because I think a lot of his posting on matt feels like he's assuming that matt is scum and then deriving that Matt's play is bad scumplay. i.e., 493. Even not buying that argument does not make Matt scum. Even if his argument is completely wrong, that doesn't mean that Matt doesn't genuinely believe it. A bad argument can still be genuine.
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I don't know about Zach, I'm leaning town on him, but I feel like I could get a solid feel on his alignment in a few days. Zach doesn't like being scum and tends to lurk. In the Wire when Empire and I were trying to read the Zach/Sotty hydra, Empire was like don't try to read Sotty that won't help. Look at what Zach posts and how often. He also kinda comes across as fake as scum. I remember in Castle Zar when he replaced in for MoI, and DGB replaced out because I asked her to explain some reads, he took my side on that in a kinda oily way...now that I look back on it. Anyway, his discussion with Tierce over meta and his expecting Tierce to read through his meta because he feels like he has a pretty obvious scum v. town meta felt townish.-
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In post 490, MattP wrote:Meta is dumb if a player has been on site for at least a year, people aren't machines and once they're confident enough to play scum without shitting themselves they will be temperamental and they will change from one game to another-
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Darlin - Do you forget I replaced into your scum slot in Abarat or that we've been scum partners before? You are capable of it. You are lying if you want to say you aren't.
Did I say, he's scum for using AtE? No, you're perfectly capable of it and you are. I'm perfectly capable of faking that amount of AtE as scum, and if I am you certainly are.
You were obvious town in War is Hell. I followed along for a good part of it, and you were super obvious town during your argument with Tierce in that game, but you did a couple things there that you haven't done here.-
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IF you think there's a possibility I'm scum, why aren't you pushing me? You've said you know I'm town, which I obviously am. You've caught me as scum before...why aren't you pulling out the steps to Tammy as scum?In post 534, MattP wrote:It'll be very funny if you end up being scum
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Matt. I couldn't give a shit that your play has gone down the shitter. As far as I'm concerned it's rather cyclic and doesn't really have a barring on whether or not you've drawn scum. But I remember you posting that in the after game discussion of Fortnight, so I get that you think that. I went six months without drawing scum before I ended up drawing scum three times in a fricking row at my home site (hi Tierce feel your pain!). What's funny is, I actually had one of my strongest town games ever right before I went on the scum streak there.In post 453, MattP wrote:I completely recognize my play has gone down the shitter. I attribute it to not having drawn scum at all (this bars ongoing game discussion) for like EIGHT months
But, what drawing town a lot did not do to me, was make me forget how to actually look town when town. I maintain it made my ability to look town even stronger than it already was. But, I understand games where your reads suck. I've been there. I've been in games where I literally haven't been able to get decent reads at all. Where at lynch time what I did was decide just who looked more town than the other and go from there because I was lost.
This is not my problem with you though. I couldn't care less if your reads are sucking. This is not a newbie game. Look at this player list. There is no need of hand holding here. My problem with you is that you just don't look town to me. And I know you are capable of looking town. Hell, you're probably one of the more obnoxious "Im obvtown" players here. (Maybe not more than Empire or Tierce, but midway between me and them).
Here is where I started having a problem with you Matt.
Why is it contingent on there being a dumbass in the game? Why so passive? It's the beginning of the game, you were around, why not take initiative? From what I know of you, you get your best reads from the early stages of the game.
But you know I thought, hey that's kind of weird, but we'll see what happens.
Then you bring this...
When I saw this, I thought, okay Matt's starting to do his thing.In post 67, MattP wrote:
You're lyingIn post 47, fferyllt wrote:But, if he doesn't gambit irrespective of alignment he'd be awfully easy to spot as scum. So yeah, I think he gambits no matter what his alignment.
You didn't actually come to that conclusion
Would you like to stop lying now or should this be a power lynch? [:
And then you did this...
Why wouldn't you answer my question last night about whether or not you think you're able to recognize when someone is trying to get a read on someone? You're a smart guy, you couldn't tell that he was trying to get a read on me? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that he realized I was town a few posts before he stopped the dance, based on a couple things he said.matt wrote:In post 68, MattP wrote:Syryana protip you should stop wasting your time with Tammy
What throws me off, is that I know that since you like to push people to get reads and see how people react and get reads from that, that you should have recognized what he was doing. And I can't figure out why you stepped in with this post. I can't figure out why you wouldn't stand back for a minute and see how it went and let it help you get a read on syryana or anyone else. And I know that you say you wanted to stop distractions for your fferylit suspicion and lynch, but really? No, really? I've seen you tell people not to respond in the midst of one of your pushes to gauge reads, and you interrupt what should be recognizable to you?
It felt off to me. But, still, well let's see.
But then your play just devolved into a rather flaccid push on fferylit, and I don't care that you don't have any reasons. Though I would like to see some now. I've made at least two posts about my dissatisfaction with the fferylit wagon and though you're town reading me, you haven't tried to get me to see your point of view? This doesn't make sense to me either. It's not like we've never played together before or in marketplace we didn't work well together. It's not like I'm unreasonable.
But you're not doing anything.
You can't even give reads. All you've done is whine about your bad town play lately and how you can't catch scum because you haven't drawn scum. But what's worse Matt, is that all you've done beyond that is dismiss and insult people who are suspecting you. And I could understand if you were dismissive after you'd been obviously town, but you haven't so the way you're dismissing the suspicion on you doesn't feel natural. Hell, in marketplace when you got suspicion, you didn't just insult people you explained why their suspicions were unwarranted. But here it's people are stupid, dense or moronic for suspecting you when you haven't done anything to make anyone think you're town.
And if you're town and if you're honest with yourself you'll know you haven't. Your play is suspect, and I know you can do better. And again I couldn't care less if your reads are super awesome, what I care about it being able to discern your alignment.-
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If my scum game is ever able to progress to looking this town, I'll call you and we can have a party.In post 537, MattP wrote:Babe I think you're town
I'll just very much hate you endgame and probably laugh simultaneously-
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Okay, but I did say I needed to meta ffery, so I didn't completely ignore it. And you're not the only one with limited time. I do still need to meta ffery; i'll do it tomorrow afternoon.
I also want to hear from Syryana on ffery. They've played together and have been hydraing, so he should be able to get a better read on her.-
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OS, where's your paranoia? Has that evaporated from your play? You just finished a game where you and Tierce were partners, right? You're not paranoid of her at all?In post 578, Oversoul wrote:
Sorry? I take it you think I am town, which I guess my battle is half won.In post 561, Tierce wrote:Oversoul any time you feel like not being useless it'd be great. Either shape up or get out. Sideline posts that have nothing to do with the game and zero content are ridiculous.
Katsuki is probably Town if Antagon is scum. MattP is scum regardless. Actually rather nice pile of Townreads if -things-, so etc.
I am actually contributing to a crucial wagon while you're... making noise I guess? about MattP. If you have any questions about my MattP read, follow Katsuki's logic about Whimsy flip > Matt's alignment.
But I will make more (serious?) posts tonight.-
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Okay I'll respond to the rest, but I just got done reading three games of ffery's, have asked syryana for his read on ffery. So even though you don't know that I've been reading games, it's very clear in the thread I'm asking about ffery.
And just so you know every time I ask someone a question, it's not that I'm implying it's scummy. I wanted to read through your last scum game, and in trying to find it those stood out and I found it odd that you were characterizing it as sooooooo long ago, when it actually wasn't.
And chill, I'm getting ready to read through this game from the beginning like I said I needed to.-
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I think you are capable of it. I think I'm capable of it even though I never have and can't imagine me doing it as scum. And one reason is I just care about my scum games less so getting legitimately upset is hard for me. I get the emotional outbursts under stress; I've probably had some of the more embarrassing meltdowns on this site.In post 588, MattP wrote: You keep saying I can do this as scum with no problem, but I never have, and I actually don't think I can get myself as upset as I got at one point in this game (or war is hell) even if faking. I'm not saying that me being emotional is the only way I'd ever respond as town to pressure, I'm saying that if I do respond this way to pressure as town, it probably means I'm stressed already irl (see posh mafia, war is hell, and this) and I am not at a level of normalcy where I can just respond rationally to pressure as town. I generally immediately lash out because I'm already upset and then get even more upset when it shoots me in the foot.
Yeah, I'm using meta, sue me, it's self meta though and I know how I am as a player
And I happen to find self meta townish anyway, but yes in vanger you did self meta what you didn't think you could fake.
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