Lord of The Rings Mafia - Game End

Gollum · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:27 am

MY RING MY RING!!! WHERE IS IT?!?!

Gollum · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:17 am

vote:waynegg

Gollum · Post Post #39 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:00 pm

In post 22, Venrob wrote:VOTE: alienBRO
He turned a random vote into a wagon. DIE, SCUM!

Why does Master VenRob feel like alienbro's vote was "scummier" than Amrun's?

Gollum · Post Post #40 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:00 pm

In post 22, Venrob wrote:VOTE: alienBRO
He turned a random vote into a wagon. DIE, SCUM!

Why does Master VenRob feel like alienbro's vote was "scummier" than Amrun's?

Gollum · Post Post #55 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:16 pm

In post 41, Venrob wrote:
Idk, was (again i will say) RVS.

Gollum understands Master VenRob, but Master said "but it is the best cause for a random vote that isn't completely random" So Gollum is confused why Bro was a better "RVS" vote then Amrun.

In post 51, waynegg wrote:Anyone feel like waiting for a counterclaim and productive discussion to take us past literal first day so we have real info to go off?

Why is Master waynegg so anxious to get the night?

Is VenRob a Venmar-Rob13 hydra?

Gollum · Post Post #61 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:35 pm

So you are not convinced that VenRob should be the one that we gut like a yummy fish today?

What did yyou hope to accomplish with your RQS?

Gollum · Post Post #67 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:53 pm

In post 65, Spaceman Spiff wrote:Gollum why are you more interested in speculating waynegg's question than you are in answering the question?

Gollum see's no point in the question. Why do you care so much about buddying him?

Gollum · Post Post #72 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:10 pm

In post 70, Spaceman Spiff wrote:I'm buddying his question because I like it very much. I do not think it was random.

Then why did you give a sarcastic answer?

Gollum · Post Post #73 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:12 pm

scratch that. Gollum is tired.

Gollum · Post Post #114 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:18 am

In post 112, DeathNote wrote: Both a night kill and a day kill gives info. The big difference between them is that town decide the lynch, not mafia.

This is not exactly true as scum DO influence the lynch.

Gollum · Post Post #228 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:23 am

In post 118, DeathNote wrote:
In post 114, Gollum wrote:
In post 112, DeathNote wrote: Both a night kill and a day kill gives info. The big difference between them is that town decide the lynch, not mafia.
This is not exactly true as scum DO influence the lynch.
right but to the alternative of scum solely deciding a lynch?

This was never said scumnote.

In post 122, waynegg wrote:
In post 120, DeathNote wrote:
In post 119, waynegg wrote:
In post 112, DeathNote wrote:Then why did you push people to answer your RQS when it doesn't really do anything to help us in game.
What happens when you assume?
Who's assuming?
Well, you're the one saying my question "doesn't really do anything to help us in game.", when in fact you have no clue what it will or won't do. I'm pretty sure that's assume, defined.

In post 117, waynegg wrote:It's nothing to do with the game

Gollum · Post Post #229 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:42 am

We agree with Amrun about Spiff's buddying.

DN's 189 is 'cause for concern. If he doesn't buy Venrob's claim and still thinks Venrob is scum we don't see a reason to unvote him.

Gollum · Post Post #231 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:29 am

The rest of that sentence only reaffirms that it had nothing to do with the game.

In 59 and 117 I saw nothing about calling out Spiff. Was it in another post?

Gollum · Post Post #232 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:32 am

I just did a search for spiff+buddying. Apparently I was the first to accuse Spiff of buddying so...go us!!!

Gollum · Post Post #235 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:40 am

So......you spoke of crabs and I should have known that was some kind of code for calling out Spiff and then when I don't recognize it...you get mildly upset with us?

Gollum · Post Post #264 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:07 pm

that Asian woman looks delicious. Our belly rumbles with hunger.

Gollum · Post Post #266 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:12 pm

Scum do use V/LA alot

Gollum · Post Post #289 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:05 am

In post 285, Amrun wrote: I agree that town should destroy ring immediately

NO!!! tHE PRECIOUS BELONGS WITH ME! DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH IT! *ferocious roar*

Gollum · Post Post #380 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:04 am

Someone asked our Miss Sub read. Its nullish with a town lean.

Gollum · Post Post #438 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:18 am

SPIFF HAS OUR RING?!? WE WANT OUR PROPORTY BACK!!!

Gollum · Post Post #440 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:24 am

In post 425, Andrius wrote:
In post 424, Miss Subliminal wrote:
In post 421, Venrob wrote:That was an especially dumb post as that was to the RQS, which was not talking about the ****ing game...

Claim: The Motherfucking Entire Imperial Skyfleet, Loyalist Macho X-Shot Bulltetproof X-Shot Dayvig

RAIN DEATH UPON VENROB
God I love you SK. <3

We loved that game.

Gollum · Post Post #697 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:00 am

We apologize for the inactivity. We'll get on this ASAP.

Gollum · Post Post #988 (isolation #22) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:44 am

In post 466, Robert2424 wrote:@Gollum, I understand your trying to keep things fun, but the spam phase is a bit past. Your account name and pic is adding flavor, but these random posts do nothing but distracting right now.

The first post was a flavorish way of saying that I don't think that ring should be destroyed ASAP.

The second quote is actully from Waynegg replying to my post whose only point seems to be "yea, we should suspect this guy."

Yuck @ SK calling Wayne ringscum. Why do you think there is other scum in this game?

In post 592, Twin Flames wrote:
In post 553, Venrob wrote:
@MOD
What happens when scum kills the holder of the one ring? I can assume, but unless you confirm in-thread i cannot post it on the thread wiki. Also would it be possible to state what wincon goes with what alignment? the case would be town/third party/mafia, as so i could post that on the wiki- though i can understand you declining that.

P-Edit: OFC the mod ninjas me...
I'll just note here that Venrong says "when" scum kills the holder of the Ring, rather than "if" .....

It seems to me that scum planning on (waiting for.... anticipating....) killing the ringholder would want to clear this up for themselves, rather than finding out if/when it happens.

Just a thought.

~~NS

The OP tells us what happens and the ring is useful for the town so of course scum would want it out of the towns hands.

Mod, can scum pass the ring to their scumbuddies?

Gollum · Post Post #993 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:02 am

Wayne is correct and I had forgotten about that.

As of now my scumreads are Wayne/Spiff/Who/DN.

Mattel and Alpha are kinda maybe's but I'm like 20 pages behind so lemme catch up.

Gollum · Post Post #994 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:02 am

Wayne is correct and I had forgotten about that.

As of now my scumreads are Wayne/Spiff/Who/DN.

Mattel and Alpha are kinda maybe's but I'm like 20 pages behind so lemme catch up.

Gollum · Post Post #996 (isolation #25) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:27 am

yep that's it.

Gollum · Post Post #999 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:44 am

???!!!???

First of all I'm catching up so I wouldn't say that I'm "just popping in." I was involved in the game up until about page 20. I mean, do you think I should not spend time catching up? lol I've already discussed why I suspect DN so I have no clue why you think that's random. I think all of who, mattel and Alpha and active lurking. I discuss you and Spiff in my catchup post so I'm not going to repeat myself.

Gollum · Post Post #1001 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:05 am

Well I've already talked a bit about DN and Spiff so I dunno why you thought those were "random". Maybe you forgot so meh.

Gollum · Post Post #1003 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:11 am

page by page.

Gollum · Post Post #1004 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:17 am

In post 651, ToastyToast wrote:@Gollum: Do you actually think Waynegg is scum? That vote has been resting there without reason.

Is he scum? Maybe. Do I believe that he has a good chance of flipping scum. Yes. I thought his RQS was lame and I don't like the way that Spiff is sticking up for him and then how Wayne was all like "Well I want cred for calling out Spiff on buddying me." And then when I pointed out that he never said that he claims that his talking about crabs was calling out Spiff.

His earlyish claim is also a bit suspect.

In post 673, mattel wrote:If you can't survive day 1 without roleclaiming get out.

So you think folks should not claim and just get lynched instead?

Gollum · Post Post #1018 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:28 pm

MA's 708 looks like some possible IIOA.

In post 716, Who wrote:
In post 715, Amrun wrote:Of course it could be a fakeclaim. No way you just realized that shit, Who. Come on.
I'd never heard of safeclaims before until someone asked me earlier in this thread whether or not I'd heard of them. I didn't look them up until recently.

Things could always be a fake claim, but someone who does not know the flavor claiming a main character role which fits perfectly in the flavor is unlikely to be fake unless the mod provided them that safe claim.

This has us slightly worried 'cause he did play in a game that had safeclaims in them.

734 from Monkey gives me some scumvibes. It's well constructed but it seems totally unmonkey like.

Gollum · Post Post #1022 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:38 pm

In post 1020, waynegg wrote:What game? Can you link? This is good!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29235

Gollum · Post Post #1028 (isolation #32) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:47 pm

I mean, he has plausible deniability and can be all like "well I never read where Monkey outted the roles" so...idk.

Gollum · Post Post #1033 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:01 pm

In post 1030, Amrun wrote:Yeah... I still believe him. Just iso'ed him again and I just don't see the scum motivation there.

?????

I disagree. There's plenty of scum motivation to fake not knowing things. You are asking the wrong question. Instead of asking "is there scum motivation in this?" you should be asking "Is he lying about not knowing what a fakeclaim is?"

Gollum · Post Post #1035 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:07 pm

*nods*

Gollum · Post Post #1057 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:14 am

In post 1050, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 1018, Gollum wrote:MA's 708 looks like some possible IIOA.

In post 716, Who wrote:
In post 715, Amrun wrote:Of course it could be a fakeclaim. No way you just realized that shit, Who. Come on.
I'd never heard of safeclaims before until someone asked me earlier in this thread whether or not I'd heard of them. I didn't look them up until recently.

Things could always be a fake claim, but someone who does not know the flavor claiming a main character role which fits perfectly in the flavor is unlikely to be fake unless the mod provided them that safe claim.
This has us slightly worried 'cause he did play in a game that had safeclaims in them.

734 from Monkey gives me some scumvibes. It's well constructed but it seems totally unmonkey like.
a) I don't think I've ever played in a game with you.

b) I don't think someone trying to be more thorough in their scumhunting is scummy.

We have played several games together. Why lie?

Gollum · Post Post #1058 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:14 am

In post 1050, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 1018, Gollum wrote:MA's 708 looks like some possible IIOA.

In post 716, Who wrote:
In post 715, Amrun wrote:Of course it could be a fakeclaim. No way you just realized that shit, Who. Come on.
I'd never heard of safeclaims before until someone asked me earlier in this thread whether or not I'd heard of them. I didn't look them up until recently.

Things could always be a fake claim, but someone who does not know the flavor claiming a main character role which fits perfectly in the flavor is unlikely to be fake unless the mod provided them that safe claim.
This has us slightly worried 'cause he did play in a game that had safeclaims in them.

734 from Monkey gives me some scumvibes. It's well constructed but it seems totally unmonkey like.
a) I don't think I've ever played in a game with you.

b) I don't think someone trying to be more thorough in their scumhunting is scummy.

We have played several games together. Why lie?

Gollum · Post Post #1059 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:25 am

Also explain the point of 734? Why give reads on the first 5 in the OP?

Gollum · Post Post #1068 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:25 am

Dat dodge

In post 1059, Gollum wrote:Also explain the point of 734? Why give reads on the first 5 in the OP?

vote:Monkey

Gollum · Post Post #1070 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:32 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=28017

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=25546

Those are two of our games and I highly doubt that you didn't know I was a Nero Cain alt.

Why you keep dodging my question?

Gollum · Post Post #1072 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:36 am

In post 1071, MonkeyMan576 wrote:It's the most objective way to do it.

What the absolute fuck is this?

Gollum · Post Post #1074 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:38 am

Monkey, did you read the whole signup thread?

Gollum · Post Post #1076 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:44 am

It means you are a confirmed liar 'cause Andy made it clear I was a Nero Cain alt so if you read as you claim you did then you should have known I was an alt, and if you did read as you claim then you lied about knowing I was a Nero alt.

Gollum · Post Post #1078 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:46 am

and you still haven't explained 734. Yea we are killing this today.

Gollum · Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:03 am

[quote="In post 1080, MonkeyMan576"][/quote]
What posed you to give reads on the top 5 in the op? It seems weird to me 'cause they aren't all scum reads....if you were town shouldn't you be more focused on finding scum? Why did you stop at 5?

Gollum · Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:17 am

We are killing Monkey today. Everyone stop derping and vote him.

Gollum · Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:30 am

What posed you to give reads on the top 5 in the op? It seems weird to me 'cause they aren't all scum reads....if you were town shouldn't you be more focused on finding scum? Why did you stop at 5?

Gollum · Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:36 am

In post 1108, mattel wrote:Christ this game is intense. I have time tonight and tomorrow to really get caught up. I will admit from what I have seen I would place wayne up there.

The others I should be able to have ahandle on tonight.

our patience wears thin with this.

Anything to add Amrun?

Gollum · Post Post #1165 (isolation #48) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:45 pm

We no longer support a spaceman lynch thanks to the votes by DN and Who. That wagon stinks.

Gollum · Post Post #1169 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:50 pm

In post 1110, Amrun wrote:
In post 1109, Gollum wrote:
In post 1108, mattel wrote:Christ this game is intense. I have time tonight and tomorrow to really get caught up. I will admit from what I have seen I would place wayne up there.

The others I should be able to have ahandle on tonight.
our patience wears thin with this.

Anything to add Amrun?
Why did you ask this at this exact juncture? What?

You were posting it up in your others games. Why so defensive?

Gollum · Post Post #1173 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:56 pm

In post 1166, Amrun wrote:
In post 1165, Gollum wrote:We no longer support a spaceman lynch thanks to the votes by DN and Who. That wagon stinks.
NO

NO

DON'T BE SWAYED

THERE ARE TWO FACTIONS!!!

TWO!!!

Yes, SK is a faction but it behooves town to hunt team scum instead.

Gollum · Post Post #1183 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:10 pm

In post 1171, Amrun wrote:Not defensive, just didn't understand why. I thought it had something to do with mattel or something.

And I was phone posting (as usual for weekends), and getting through my other games while at work. Pretty sure I posted here as soon as there were new posts, though... Seriously suggesting I'm lurking? lol

...........................................

Why would you think that our asking you if you had anything to add had anything to do with Mattel?

There were along string of new posts from me and monkey I saw you posting elsewhere so I asked you if you had anything to add, it wasn't until then that you came in and said that monkey was a ok lynch.

Gollum · Post Post #1184 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:10 pm

In post 1171, Amrun wrote:Not defensive, just didn't understand why. I thought it had something to do with mattel or something.

And I was phone posting (as usual for weekends), and getting through my other games while at work. Pretty sure I posted here as soon as there were new posts, though... Seriously suggesting I'm lurking? lol

...........................................

Why would you think that our asking you if you had anything to add had anything to do with Mattel?

There were along string of new posts from me and monkey I saw you posting elsewhere so I asked you if you had anything to add, it wasn't until then that you came in and said that monkey was a ok lynch.

Gollum · Post Post #1195 (isolation #53) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:26 pm

In post 1113, ToastyToast wrote: @gollum: not reading something DOES NOT equal scum. Reading something and not remembering everything DOES NOT equal scum. Like, seriously. Do you know how often I miss shit when I read? It happens to absolutely everyone. And who the fuck cares if he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not? Why does that have relevance here? Whether or not he knew doesn't really matter all that much, there is no reason to lie about it.

And you know that Monkey is telling the truth how?

The relevance is that if he didn't forget then he's lying. Why would he lie? To discredit me.

Your "Monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth" is retarded logic and pretty scummy to boot.

Though this has nothing to do with how horrible post 734 is and how he is not adequate explaining it but nice try trying to discredit our attack.

Gollum · Post Post #1198 (isolation #54) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:30 pm

I'll get on my reads but why are you so concerned with me when there are players that are doing even less?

Gollum · Post Post #1203 (isolation #55) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:35 pm

oh no, I'm just responding to other posts and I can't post like 20 times at the same time. Your speculation that I'm cautious scum is quite honestly fucktarded. At the same time your rushing me is a tactic we often see from scum so if you think we are scum are you prepared to 1v1 us?

Gollum · Post Post #1204 (isolation #56) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:37 pm

In post 1202, MonkeyMan576 wrote:If you think you're so convincing then why aren't I lynched yet, Gollum? Because you are throwing shit and trying to see what sticks.

??????

What does this have to do with anything?

Gollum · Post Post #1222 (isolation #57) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:50 pm

In post 1201, ToastyToast wrote: I have not once said anything along the lines of "monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth." Bottom line is it really doesn't matter whether or not he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not. It changes literally nothing. There is no scum motivation to do so, and whether or not someone read the /in thread is irrelevant to the game itself.

I said that Monkey's 734 sucked and was unMonkey like.
He came back and said that he doesn't think we've played together.
I told him I was a Nero alt.
He say's he didn't know this.
I asked him if he read the signup thread.
He said yes.
but then he said he forgot.

So the question is weather he is telling the truth or not. And if he's lying about that he's being dishonest and as town he has no reason to be dishonest about that. So if he's lying then he's likely scum.

Gollum · Post Post #1221 (isolation #58) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:50 pm

In post 1201, ToastyToast wrote: I have not once said anything along the lines of "monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth." Bottom line is it really doesn't matter whether or not he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not. It changes literally nothing. There is no scum motivation to do so, and whether or not someone read the /in thread is irrelevant to the game itself.

I said that Monkey's 734 sucked and was unMonkey like.
He came back and said that he doesn't think we've played together.
I told him I was a Nero alt.
He say's he didn't know this.
I asked him if he read the signup thread.
He said yes.
but then he said he forgot.

So the question is weather he is telling the truth or not. And if he's lying about that he's being dishonest and as town he has no reason to be dishonest about that. So if he's lying then he's likely scum.

Gollum · Post Post #1225 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:53 pm

In post 1207, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 1204, Gollum wrote:
In post 1202, MonkeyMan576 wrote:If you think you're so convincing then why aren't I lynched yet, Gollum? Because you are throwing shit and trying to see what sticks.
??????

What does this have to do with anything?
It has to do with the quality of your arguments, or lack therof.

Yes, asking you to explain post 734 and then getting angry when you don't explain said post and calling you scummy for is is such a horrible argument.

Gollum · Post Post #1226 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:53 pm

In post 1207, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
In post 1204, Gollum wrote:
In post 1202, MonkeyMan576 wrote:If you think you're so convincing then why aren't I lynched yet, Gollum? Because you are throwing shit and trying to see what sticks.
??????

What does this have to do with anything?
It has to do with the quality of your arguments, or lack therof.

Yes, asking you to explain post 734 and then getting angry when you don't explain said post and calling you scummy for is is such a horrible argument.

Gollum · Post Post #1230 (isolation #61) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:55 pm

In post 1227, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 1222, Gollum wrote:
In post 1201, ToastyToast wrote: I have not once said anything along the lines of "monkey said so so he has to be telling the truth." Bottom line is it really doesn't matter whether or not he knew you were a Nero Cain alt or not. It changes literally nothing. There is no scum motivation to do so, and whether or not someone read the /in thread is irrelevant to the game itself.
I said that Monkey's 734 sucked and was unMonkey like.
He came back and said that he doesn't think we've played together.
I told him I was a Nero alt.
He say's he didn't know this.
I asked him if he read the signup thread.
He said yes.
but then he said he forgot.

So the question is weather he is telling the truth or not. And if he's lying about that he's being dishonest and as town he has no reason to be dishonest about that. So if he's lying then he's likely scum.
Scum has no reason to lie about that either.
And I don't believe in Lynch all Liars anyway.

no, you can't be this dense. Toast is scum too.

Gollum · Post Post #1235 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:02 pm

I said it was unmonkey like, him claiming we've never played together is nothing but a discredit.

+ What do you think of 734 and why are you trying to discredit my Monkey case over the weakest aspect when that's not the whole case?

If/when Monkey flips scum should we lynch you?

Keep your panties on, geez.

Gollum · Post Post #1240 (isolation #63) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:06 pm

In post 1237, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I am town. The fact that no one has/will counterclaimed me proves it.

What's your Venrob read?

Gollum · Post Post #1244 (isolation #64) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:10 pm

It would be if he's a psn sk. Kinda ballsy but not impossible + he's kinda disappeared.

But your argument that no one has CC'd you is terrible.

Gollum · Post Post #1247 (isolation #65) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:12 pm

Monkey is scum for 734 and possibly lying about not playing with me.
Toast is scum and a monkey buddy for trying to nitpick/discredit my Monkey case.
DN is scum for unvoting for no reason.
Mattel is active lurking scum.

Those our are top 4 scum reads.

Gollum · Post Post #1248 (isolation #66) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:14 pm

In post 1246, ToastyToast wrote:@Gollum: I don't think 734 is un-monkey-like.

So why would he give reads on the first 5 on the OP and then stop?

Gollum · Post Post #1250 (isolation #67) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:17 pm

In post 1245, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Not as terrible as your arguments.

Well I'm still waiting on you to explain 734 which you've been nicely dodging for a hundred? posts so It can't be that bad id it has your tongue knotted up.

Gollum · Post Post #1254 (isolation #68) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:19 pm

In post 1249, waynegg wrote:Except Monkey had NO REAL PRESSURE WHEN ALL OTHER CLAIMERS DID.

????

Monkey had plenty of pressure. What are you talking about?

Gollum · Post Post #1259 (isolation #69) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:24 pm

Monkey-Why did you stop after 5? What made you want to start out giving reads for no reason? Who are your top 4 scum reads?

Gollum · Post Post #1265 (isolation #70) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:33 pm

In post 1262, MonkeyMan576 wrote:5 was one third of the players. I didn't have time for 15.

Its been three days and 50+ posts since you gave reads on those 5, bullshit you didn't have time to post those other 10.

Gollum · Post Post #1296 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:34 am

Destroying the ring benifts scum more than town.

Gollum · Post Post #1302 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:45 am

In post 1300, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1297, DeathNote wrote:
In post 1247, Gollum wrote:Monkey is scum for 734 and possibly lying about not playing with me.
Toast is scum and a monkey buddy for trying to nitpick/discredit my Monkey case.
DN is scum for unvoting for no reason.
Mattel is active lurking scum.

Those our are top 4 scum reads.
I remember seeing something along the lines of you not liking my unvote. Would you have rather me keep my vote up for a week without me being able to change it?

When you are all "Venrob is still scum!" I saw no reason for you to unvote unless you were worried that the lynch wouldn't go through or something. Can you explain why you unvoted despite still scum reading Venrob?

We were mistaken, for some reason we thought you were voting Spiff.

unvote

Gollum · Post Post #1305 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:49 am

We just literally facepalmed. If you were reading you'd know that we think DN is scum and don't want to touch anything with him on it. We had thought that he was voting Spaceman but he wasn't so now we don't want to vote Monkey.

Gollum · Post Post #1307 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:56 am

What do you think of DN still calling Venrob scum but unvoting him?

Gollum · Post Post #1317 (isolation #75) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:42 am

In post 1310, DeathNote wrote:The better question is why I would leave my vote on. I took it off cause of V/LA. I dont see the benefit of parking a vote anywhere when I am not available to check on the game.

Well you were scumreading said slot so we still don't understand, like at all, why you'd be against parking your vote. So you couldn't check the thread? Why should you care unless Venrob is not in your faction?

Gollum · Post Post #1316 (isolation #76) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:42 am

In post 1310, DeathNote wrote:The better question is why I would leave my vote on. I took it off cause of V/LA. I dont see the benefit of parking a vote anywhere when I am not available to check on the game.

Well you were scumreading said slot so we still don't understand, like at all, why you'd be against parking your vote. So you couldn't check the thread? Why should you care unless Venrob is not in your faction?

Gollum · Post Post #1319 (isolation #77) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:46 am

Why do? What do you think of DN?

Gollum · Post Post #1320 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:46 am

*Why so?

Gollum · Post Post #1325 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:50 am

In post 1321, DeathNote wrote: And if your reasoning for finding my scummy is because of that, then you should probably reconsider cause it is a waste of time.

What is your read on toast?

Gollum · Post Post #1335 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:03 am

DN, do you think we're scum for finding your unvote>>>v/la to be scummy?

Gollum · Post Post #1387 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:34 am

2 hours left. So w/e

vote:Monkey

Gollum · Post Post #1413 (isolation #82) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:41 am

In post 1392, DeathNote wrote:
Vote: Gollum

This feels like a good vote.

HELP!!!! We can't stop laughing.

Gollum · Post Post #1414 (isolation #83) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:19 am

Part of us wants to trust MissSub about Toast but we find his attacking part of our Monkey case to be rather scummy. At the same time we don't exactly trust MissSub because this looks very similar to his scumposting and his fluff today is just ugh. That could be a good relational tell. Speaking of, DN unvoting Venrob while still calling Venrob scum is craptastic and seems very very scummy. Amrun's "but I mislynch DN a lot" and "unvoting before going v/la seems reasonable" could easily be a relational tell.

Amrun also sorta piggybacked TT in "discrediting" Monkey....

In post 1233, Amrun wrote:
In post 1231, ToastyToast wrote:Give me a single reason why monkeyscum would lie about something as stupid as that.
qft.

We need to read the following players again.

Robert2424
waynegg
Maverick_Alpha
Who

Gollum · Post Post #1415 (isolation #84) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:21 am

But for now we are going to vote Mattel to see if he does ANYTHING.

vote:Mattel

Gollum · Post Post #1418 (isolation #85) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:36 am

Why is Robert and Waynegg town?

Gollum · Post Post #1427 (isolation #86) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:27 am

Sub, what do you think of Toast?

Gollum · Post Post #1428 (isolation #87) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:27 am

Sub, what do you think of Toast?

Gollum · Post Post #1450 (isolation #88) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:42 am

I wish we had bullets to shoot Amrun with.

Gollum · Post Post #1449 (isolation #89) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:42 am

I wish we had bullets to shoot Amrun with.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:00 am

In post 1446, Amrun wrote:They weren't around at day end when monkey gained traction.

They were aroundish. 1352 was posted close to dl and they were calling Monkey scum but didn't vote him and posting shows that SK was active on the site.

Stop trying to take credit for the Monkey lynch; you had almost nothing to do with it.

?????? We're relatively certain that Wayne just said we had more to do with the Monkey lynch....how is that trying to take credit?

Also we appreciate the town read.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:00 am

In post 1446, Amrun wrote:They weren't around at day end when monkey gained traction.

They were aroundish. 1352 was posted close to dl and they were calling Monkey scum but didn't vote him and posting shows that SK was active on the site.

Stop trying to take credit for the Monkey lynch; you had almost nothing to do with it.

?????? We're relatively certain that Wayne just said we had more to do with the Monkey lynch....how is that trying to take credit?

Also we appreciate the town read.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:06 am

What do you think of Amrun claiming that you guys weren't around when the monkey wagon gained traction yet 1352 and your post history proves this wrong?

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:11 am

Not that we care about the "credit" for lynching Monkey but I think we had a lot more to do with the Monkey lynch then Miss Sub.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:14 am

In post 1471, Miss Subliminal wrote:
In post 1469, Gollum wrote:What do you think of Amrun claiming that you guys weren't around when the monkey wagon gained traction yet 1352 and your post history proves this wrong?
Andy was asleep when the lynch happened and I was actively hoping to not have to read the thread, so I'd say it's pretty accurate.

but 1352 was posted close to deadline AND the Monkey wagon was in full swing by then so we think she's full of bullshit.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:18 am

That's fine, we aren't talking about that. We are talking about the fact that Amrun is a little liar and claiming that you guys weren't around when the Monkey wagon picked up.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:22 am

In fact...

In post 1382, Empking wrote:
Vote Count Thirty

Monkeyman576 (6) - DeathNote, Spaceman Spiff, Amrun, Who, Venrob, waynegg
Spaceman Spiff (4) - TwinFlames, alienBRO, Miss Subliminal, ToastyToast
Waynegg (1) - Monkeyman576

Not Voting: Mattel, Maverick_Alpha, Robert2424, Gollum

Eight to lynch

This is the vote count made just a little bit after your 1352. As you can see, Monkey is the leading wagon and the only new vote was from Wayne. Which means that he still had 5 votes before your 1352? So I don't know how she can claim that you weren't around when the Monkey wagon picked up.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:24 am

In post 1489, Miss Subliminal wrote:
In post 1483, Gollum wrote:That's fine, we aren't talking about that. We are talking about the fact that Amrun is a little liar and claiming that you guys weren't around when the Monkey wagon picked up.
I'm going to chalk this up to misremembering because Amrun is super duper obv town.

Why is she town?

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:28 am

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:30 am

2 mafia and an sk left.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:34 am

In post 1, Empking wrote:You win if all the forces of 1.Sauron are destroyed and you have the one ring.
2. You win if all the forces of Sauron are destroyed and the one ring is destroyed.
3. You win if the forces of Sauron are the only survivors or nothing can prevent the same.

3. Is the mafia wincon
2. Is the town wincon
1. Is neither town or mafia...

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:40 am

In post 1502, Miss Subliminal wrote:How do you know the RingScum is an SK?

This seems obtuse. Maybe Wayne is right about Miss hrmmm...

Lets see....we have a psn doc who has claimed that he was psned last night + it seems like it would be super bastardly not to give ring scum a power and a kill would help him greatly + in the other LOTR game I was a third party ring hunting SK + this question is fucking dumb 'cause your own hydra thinks there's an sk. lol

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:45 am

In post 1506, alienBRO wrote:
In post 1501, Gollum wrote:2 mafia and an sk left.
The effffffffffff????????? The third-party wincon looks like a survivor to me, so either you're being dumb or know something I don't.

A survivor that has to eliminate scum and be sure to hammer the guy that has the ring? That's bastardly. So what happens when Venrob dies, doesn't that confirm the presence of a killing role?

edit:of course you are

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:48 am

Miss Sub, why were you questioning me over thinking that there was an sk when your other head thinks there's an sk?

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:59 am

In post 1514, Amrun wrote:
In post 1465, Gollum wrote:
In post 1446, Amrun wrote:
Stop trying to take credit for the Monkey lynch; you had almost nothing to do with it.
?????? We're relatively certain that Wayne just said we had more to do with the Monkey lynch....how is that trying to take credit?
I never suggested you weren't involved in the monkey wagon. You certainly were.

Except that's not at all what was being discussed.....

I said Sunbliminal is the townie at remaining player from the monkey flip, and I stand by

Its so rare when scum adit they are scum, thank you for that.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:36 pm

We are ok with killing this(DN) today. Though we would like Toast to comment on the first few pages of today and we want to hear from a lot of folks before a lynch.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:43 pm

What's your case on us DN?

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:45 pm

In post 1549, waynegg wrote:Do I have anything outstanding? I'm about to go to bed.

no...why would you ask this?

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:49 pm

ah, so you have no real reason to suspect us other than OMGUS.

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:55 pm

We just asked your reason and you just said you had none.

We'll ask again, why are we your #1 scum read?

Gollum · Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:51 pm

Save your breath, Twin, this is scum so I don't think we'll get anything out of him.

vote:DN

Gollum · Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:40 am

Who's 1566 made us cringe. But there's also no reason for town to play like that.

More fluff Andy scum.

Gollum · Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:29 pm

In post 1516, Gollum wrote:
In post 1514, Amrun wrote:
In post 1465, Gollum wrote:
In post 1446, Amrun wrote:
Stop trying to take credit for the Monkey lynch; you had almost nothing to do with it.
?????? We're relatively certain that Wayne just said we had more to do with the Monkey lynch....how is that trying to take credit?
I never suggested you weren't involved in the monkey wagon. You certainly were.
Except that's not at all what was being discussed.....

In post 1518, Amrun wrote:I'm really busy posting at work, so if I have misunderstood something, feel free to point it out.

In post 1432, waynegg wrote:Gollum is who did all the work on this. All I did was agree with him and quote other things I saw which Monkey hadn't touched on.

In post 1446, Amrun wrote:Stop trying to take credit for the Monkey lynch; you had almost nothing to do with it

We guess you could make the case that Waynegg is buddying up to us but that doesn't sound like he's trying to take credit at all. So we find it odd that you were all the sudden "I never suggested you weren't involved with lynching Monkey" since that's not what was being discussed.

We also feel that you are being selective by announcing that Sub is town but being uneasy about us.

Gollum · Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:12 pm

In post 1638, Amrun wrote:
In post 1445, waynegg wrote:
I was right on Monkey,
I was mostly right on Spiff~ whom you continued to push for everything in you and we're wrong or scum. So, you tell me...should I believe me who's batting a thousand thus far or you?

Like I said ~ Cop innocent or dead flip.
This is the post directly preceding my post. It is OBVIOUSLY what I was referring to.

Except that 1432 contradicts that. So why were you discrediting and taking that post out of context?

And stop acting as if you haven't heard of a bus, Nero.

Who is this Nero you speak of? We have heard of bussing but we feel its unwise that you write off The Baker Krew. We feel that our push on Monkey was stronger and it helped more in securing a Monkey lynch then did Sub. Your suggestion that we would push Monkey hardcore, while he was mainly flying under the radar when we could have easily swooped in an gotten a Spiff mislynch is Ludacris to the point of absurd.

Your Mattel vote today is also pretty lazy. We have a whole scum wagon to analyze, and you're lurker hunting?

Lurker hunting. lol Scum like to lurk. On day 1 we felt that he was active lurking like a mofo. We wanted to pressure him into actually doing something today though in hindsight he's probably just inactive and needs to be replaced.

Gollum · Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:14 pm

In post 1645, waynegg wrote:TLDR if it walks and talks like a duck, it's a duck.

duck sounds delicious.

Gollum · Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:22 pm

dandelion stuffed raw duck with fish scale pudding would really hit our tummies about now.

Gollum · Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:22 pm

dandelion stuffed raw duck with fish scale pudding would really hit our tummies about now.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:05 am

Mod, Can we get prods on Robert, Mattel, and Alpha?

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:12 am

We also do not think we should save DN from swinging from an ENT.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:27 am

In post 1666, waynegg wrote:
In post 1664, Gollum wrote:We also do not think we should save DN from swinging from an ENT.
Do you really think DN is the better target of the two?

????

Which head of BroAlien would like to explain why each head is posting it up around the site but not here?

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:35 am

Yes we do.

We noticed the V/LA but just found it odd that both heads are posting it up elsewhere.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:55 am

We don't care as long as we see the lifeless corpse of DN.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:12 am

In post 1680, DeathNote wrote:2) Gollum does not deserve full credit for Monkey if any at all.

We agree that we don't deserve full credit but we firmly believe that we were a very significant force behind that of Money.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:21 am

In post 1685, Amrun wrote:Specifically, I think the reaction to monkey's vt claim rings genuine with dn's claim.

But it was Wayneg who first called out that Monkey's claim looked fake since someone had already claimed rider so DN would have been able to piggyback.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:36 am

Sure, we lost our nerve since it was Monkey and we thought DN was scummier.

+

the way you and DN are trying to make it look like I was scummy for the Monkey wagon is dumb and looks like scum trying to keep me lynchable. Monkey was still flying way under the radar before WE attacked Monkey. Buddy BakerKrew all you want but they did shit compared to us.

If you believed that DN was was town for something he did on d1, why then did you vote him?

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:42 am

In post 1692, Amrun wrote:Toasty votes the town counterwagon to Monkey, but not out of conviction. He fencesat and and contributed nothing but a soft defense of monkey.

VOTE: Toasty

So where were you when I was accusing Toast of soft defending Monkey? At one point you even agreed with one of Toast's soft discredits.

If you think Toast is scum what do you think of BakerKrew who staunchly thinks Toast is town?

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:53 am

In post 1693, DeathNote wrote: I would prefer Gollum over toasty.

So why not vote either?

Amrun or DN is the preferred lynch for the day.

If at any point we die, Amrun needs to get lynched for selectively scumhunting (i.e. Sub is super-duper town, but Gollum can be a Money scumbuddy) Monkey was way under the radar and we find it utterly horrible that her and DN think we'd run up a scumbuddy who was way below the radar.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:01 am

Dat deflect. Money wasn't a serious lynch contender until we attacked him. Answer our question now.

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:07 am

oh thanks for reminding me about that. Claiming scum, regardless of alignment, should be grounds for a modkill/pl but we're pretty content with DN/Amrun being scum.

TY scumnote

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:07 am

oh thanks for reminding me about that. Claiming scum, regardless of alignment, should be grounds for a modkill/pl but we're pretty content with DN/Amrun being scum.

TY scumnote

Gollum · Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:17 am

Shut up, you aren't getting lynched so stop whining.

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:54 am

So.....why are you not voting either?

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:52 am

In post 1713, Amrun wrote:
In post 1697, Gollum wrote: Yeah, you helped bring Monkey to the forefront again, but you weren't the first to do so, or the last.
Monkey was never viable before us.

I believe I may agreed with something Toasty said about DN yesterday, but who the fuck cares? That's completely irrelevant. I find Toasty scummy for his interaction with the Monkey wagon, so why are you acting as if I should have pre-emptively known what would result from the Monkey wagon yesterday?
Except we've said nothing about you agreeing with Toast on DN. We said the following:

In post 1414, Gollum wrote:Amrun also sorta piggybacked TT in "discrediting" Monkey....
and

In post 1698, Gollum wrote:So where were you when I was accusing Toast of soft defending Monkey? At one point you even agreed with one of Toast's soft discredits.
neither of which has to do with us claiming that you were agreeing with Toast about DN.

We feel like if you thought Monkey was scum then you would have been wary of Toasty trying to undermine our Monkey case.

Same with your shit about Subliminal/Toasty, acting as if I should suddenly find Subliminal scummy because I find Toasty scummy. A) Toasty is unflipped, and b) having a townread on scum does not make you scum. Your arguments are all completely illogical.
Why are you so hostile to a question? We never ever suggested that you should find Sub scummy 'cause your #1 scumread is defending him, we asked if you think it means anything. There was NO reason to blow up as you have.

Also, anyone who actually thinks Subliminal claimed scum is high as a fucking kite, and I think Gollum is scummy for capitalizing on this (rudely) when he should know better.

he did, keep buddying up to that slot.

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:52 am

In post 1713, Amrun wrote:
In post 1697, Gollum wrote: Yeah, you helped bring Monkey to the forefront again, but you weren't the first to do so, or the last.
Monkey was never viable before us.

I believe I may agreed with something Toasty said about DN yesterday, but who the fuck cares? That's completely irrelevant. I find Toasty scummy for his interaction with the Monkey wagon, so why are you acting as if I should have pre-emptively known what would result from the Monkey wagon yesterday?
Except we've said nothing about you agreeing with Toast on DN. We said the following:

In post 1414, Gollum wrote:Amrun also sorta piggybacked TT in "discrediting" Monkey....
and

In post 1698, Gollum wrote:So where were you when I was accusing Toast of soft defending Monkey? At one point you even agreed with one of Toast's soft discredits.
neither of which has to do with us claiming that you were agreeing with Toast about DN.

We feel like if you thought Monkey was scum then you would have been wary of Toasty trying to undermine our Monkey case.

Same with your shit about Subliminal/Toasty, acting as if I should suddenly find Subliminal scummy because I find Toasty scummy. A) Toasty is unflipped, and b) having a townread on scum does not make you scum. Your arguments are all completely illogical.
Why are you so hostile to a question? We never ever suggested that you should find Sub scummy 'cause your #1 scumread is defending him, we asked if you think it means anything. There was NO reason to blow up as you have.

Also, anyone who actually thinks Subliminal claimed scum is high as a fucking kite, and I think Gollum is scummy for capitalizing on this (rudely) when he should know better.

he did, keep buddying up to that slot.

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:54 am

As for DN, he's clearly not even trying to get us lynched. When asked for a reason why DN thought we were scum he didn't even give a reason. This is not town.

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:00 am

no.

DN is scum you fool!!!

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:01 am

So what has Andy been saying in the QT, SK?

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:17 pm

If this is DN town, its about the worst play we've seen outside of a non-newbie. Thus we're having a hard time buying DN town.

Gollum · Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:42 pm

Wayne, shutup. VenRob claims he's about to die so let him. If he doesn't die we should strongly consider a pl on him but there's no point in arguing with him today.

Gollum · Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:34 am

ugh. Krew's trolling makes us want to pl that slot so bad.

Can we get a replacement for Mattel and Robert?

Gollum · Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:34 am

ugh. Krew's trolling makes us want to pl that slot so bad.

Can we get a replacement for Mattel and Robert?

Gollum · Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:06 am

What slip?

Gollum · Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:12 am

Do you think Amrun could be scum?

Gollum · Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:17 am

In post 1759, DeathNote wrote:
In post 1725, Gollum wrote:As for DN, he's clearly not even trying to get us lynched. When asked for a reason why DN thought we were scum he didn't even give a reason. This is not town.
Well, I am trying. I am voting you.

lawl. Having your vote sitting on us and not giving a reason and trying to convince others that they should lynch us today=/= trying to get us lynched. An experienced player would know that but since you are a brand new player with a 2013 join date.....wait...oh...nm

Gollum · Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:19 am

In post 1778, Miss Subliminal wrote:Hey I reposted the slip for you now fucking comment on it.

You do know that we already think this is scum, right?

Gollum · Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:34 am

Hello tastly little hobbit

Gollum · Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:17 pm

good morning tasty little mosel.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:14 am

In post 1841, zMuffinMan wrote:Gollum more null-scum

you guys make us sad.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:22 am

So you agree with Amrun that you think we were bussin' Monkey?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:25 am

how is DN conftown? 'cause he claimed VT?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:18 am

We're just shell shocked, First, Good Mornings claim that we've been fluffing up a storm lately is utterly untrue. Now in the very beginning of the game we've fluffed a bit but I don't think there's been much fluffing lately so is she lying that she's caught up with the game? But at the same time it is a Mattel replacement so meh....

Muffin's statement doesn't make much sense either. DN was sitting on Monkey most of the day. We had (incorrectly) thought that he was voting Spiff and because of that we did not want to vote Spiff. When we found out that he was voting Monkey instead, it made us not want to vote for Monkey. We don't think it makes much sense for DN to bus his buddy as early as he was and Amruns and Muffin's "well you should have thought that DN was bussin'" is absolutely hilarious. Though its actually pretty sad that they think we're scum since we don't share their mindset.

Though we're pretty alarmed that he thinks our interactions with Toast is some how scummy. Toast was attacking/discrediting the Monkey case. How on earth would he think the guys that brought forth the monkey case was scummier than the guy that attempted to discredit and derail the Monkey case/wagon.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:18 am

We're just shell shocked, First, Good Mornings claim that we've been fluffing up a storm lately is utterly untrue. Now in the very beginning of the game we've fluffed a bit but I don't think there's been much fluffing lately so is she lying that she's caught up with the game? But at the same time it is a Mattel replacement so meh....

Muffin's statement doesn't make much sense either. DN was sitting on Monkey most of the day. We had (incorrectly) thought that he was voting Spiff and because of that we did not want to vote Spiff. When we found out that he was voting Monkey instead, it made us not want to vote for Monkey. We don't think it makes much sense for DN to bus his buddy as early as he was and Amruns and Muffin's "well you should have thought that DN was bussin'" is absolutely hilarious. Though its actually pretty sad that they think we're scum since we don't share their mindset.

Though we're pretty alarmed that he thinks our interactions with Toast is some how scummy. Toast was attacking/discrediting the Monkey case. How on earth would he think the guys that brought forth the monkey case was scummier than the guy that attempted to discredit and derail the Monkey case/wagon.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:20 am

you still need to die, scum note. You may not be Monkey's buddy but you still have an anti-town wincon.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:24 am

proof that DN isn't reading. We went over the fact that there's very likely to be an SK in this game.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:32 am

Well, that's a true statement. We lack the charisma to get you lynched but that doesn't mean you aren't scum.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:16 am

??? DN did no such thing. We are pretty sure he was sheeping Sub and he never "brought forth" anything.

As for why we've ruled out that DN was bussing, its entirely possible, but we want to lynch DN so we'll find out soon enough if he was bussing or if he's third party.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:34 am

In post 1569, Gollum wrote:Who's 1566 made us cringe. But there's also no reason for town to play like that.

We think Who is scummy.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:53 am

ok? So he claimed VT. Do scum never claim VT or something?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:04 am

So he knew that one of the two were likely lying.

But we feel like his play outweighs his claim.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:22 am

So go destroy the ring, Amrun. Oh wait...

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:22 am

So go destroy the ring, Amrun. Oh wait...

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:57 am

If you can't see the town motivation of wanting to get rid of a an extra killing role but keep our investigation powers then you are a moron.

We think Who and Mattel are the mafia.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:14 am

how do you know that the ring benefits scum?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:14 am

how do you know that the ring benefits scum?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:17 am

other than this computer being weird, no.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:25 pm

yea, DN shouldn't get to decide the hammer vote. Let Venrob choose.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:34 pm

Ven, since you are about to die, can you give us a list of all your reads.

BTW: there's no way to save you so stop insisting that if a 2nd psn doc targets you tonight, you'll live. You won't.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:36 pm

goodmorning did NOT replace Robert....

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:45 pm

NSin it is!!!

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:56 pm

In post 1903, Sugar Cain wrote:reads first, rob.

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:00 pm

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:09 pm

so psn is the scums kill

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:28 pm

In post 1913, DeathNote wrote:Also, this sucks that he pointed out he has the ring.

Why does that suck?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:58 pm

+scum don't need the ring to win so.....why would they care?

Gollum · Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:00 pm

Well, we guess that keeping the investigation from town, scum might want to get that out of the towns hands.

A watcher would be really nice.

Gollum · Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:51 am

We don't buy Who's "reaction" test and we are ok with killing that today.

Gollum · Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:33 am

Does anyone know who it is tat questioned that the mafia kill was the psn one?

Gollum · Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:56 am

NSin is correct that there was no reason for Who to try and deceive us. I also think Amrun looks scummy and derpy, however, this makes us want to town read the slot.

In post 89, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Amrun's meta research looks solid.

Vote: Venrob

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:41 am

vote:MissSub

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:47 am

good morning just claimed a guilty on Miss Sub and you have no reaction? Thank God we already think Amrun is likely to be a sub buddy 'cause that was pitiful.

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:24 am

Well, Who obviously didn't have the ring since Nsin didn't get it. (Unless he's scum lying) Is that what you think?

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:26 am

Are you kidding us? There's plenty of scum motivation to claiming a fake guilty.

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:03 pm

In post 2016, thezmon221 wrote:Guys, please lynch NSin. Robert's scum meta follows this to the period. Like, it's identical.

but sometimes younger players tend to RVS their buddies so its possible that Rob was RVSing his buddy sub. + both heads of sub have been lurking horribly. This is the days correct lynch.

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:12 pm

In post 2025, Miss Subliminal wrote:Fuck
Tonight
Pwomise

Why not claim now?

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:22 pm

So you need to time to work on that fakeclaim.

Gollum · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:22 pm

So you need to time to work on that fakeclaim.

Gollum · Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:41 am

And hat wasn't the hammer and this was scum trolling anyways. Someone needs to hammer.

Gollum · Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:45 am

oh awesome.

Gollum · Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:56 am

part of us wants to muffinman for helping scumSub in trolling but the other half wants to (still) strangle) DN.

2264 reaffirms that DN is just a useless troll.

Gollum · Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:56 am

part of us wants to muffinman for helping scumSub in trolling but the other half wants to (still) strangle) DN.

2264 reaffirms that DN is just a useless troll.

Gollum · Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:00 am

but then again, scumSub was trying to lynch DN and he didn't jump off like he did with Monkey so that's about the only reason he's a "townish" read. Might want to kill Toast for trying to discredit the Monkey wagon day 1.

Gollum · Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:32 am

Would the remaining vanilla townies please claim?

Gollum · Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:16 am

In post 2291, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 2290, Gollum wrote:Would the remaining vanilla townies please claim?
Why?

To help us find the remaining scum but I don't want to go into detail. If you much rather massclaim 'cause its "normal" then we can.

Gollum · Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:41 am

In post 2273, zMuffinMan wrote:To be fair, I don't think anyone would have figured out subliminal was scum if not for hangman. I like to think it was I who played the most crucial role in getting subliminal lynched.

This is so pants on head.

In post 2274, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 2272, Gollum wrote:but then again, scumSub was trying to lynch DN and he didn't jump off like he did with Monkey so that's about the only reason he's a "townish" read. Might want to kill Toast for trying to discredit the Monkey wagon day 1.
you are still on about that?

Other than the fact that its you, why do you think this is invalid? Wouldn't you tend to think someone is scum for trying to discredit a scum case? We think you would.

In post 2294, goodmorning wrote:No. Massclaims are not as helpful as a certain type of people likes to pretend they are.
Why massclaim here? I do not buy your, "oh, but it'll help." I want an actual reason and I can only hope others will hold you to that standard.

Unless you are an alt, we have more experience than you and we know what we're doing. If I gave a reason it would just alert the remaining scum as to our plan wich defeats the whole purpose.

Gollum · Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:46 am

In post 2298, ToastyToast wrote:With regards to goodmorning destroying the ring, I think it makes sense in context. A lot of people were on board to destroy the ring immediately or sooner rather than later. I for one am worried about scum getting something out of the ring power if they manage to get a hold of it.

So what do you think of Sub wanting to destroy the ring? Did you think they were just trying to get townpoints by saying the "townie" thing to do or do you think it meant that the ring didn't hold any significance if scum wanted it dead?

Gollum · Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:15 am

In post 2306, goodmorning wrote:I didn't realize it was a measuring contest you were after.

Not really, no. There's no town motivation in outing our plans as outing our plans would only alert the remaining scum but by all means, continue to be a lil' prick about it.

Gollum · Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:18 am

In post 2307, zMuffinMan wrote:
gollum wrote:This is so pants on head.
If that means "correct" then I agree.

We think GM's guilty had more to do with his lynch then your troll baiting.

Gollum · Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:36 am

In post 2310, SafetyDance wrote:Did Deagol not use sarcasm ever, Gollum? That is what 2273 was.

Muffin's 2273 didn't seem like sarcasm to us. Why are you coming to his defense?

We should not be worried or concerned with what scum think (in regard to setup spec). They can and do say anything for their own reasons. So if it's not a relationship/association tell, why speculate?

What is that about?

Gollum · Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:44 pm

@Saftey Dance

In post 2314, Gollum wrote:
We should not be worried or concerned with what scum think (in regard to setup spec). They can and do say anything for their own reasons. So if it's not a relationship/association tell, why speculate?
What is that about?

Gollum · Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:16 am

In post 2321, goodmorning wrote:
In post 2308, Gollum wrote:
In post 2306, goodmorning wrote:I didn't realize it was a measuring contest you were after.
Not really, no. There's no town motivation in outing our plans as outing our plans would only alert the remaining scum but by all means, continue to be a lil' prick about it.
Because I'm the one who attempted to use experience as an argument. Right.

We weren't using experience as an argument, we were saying that we are experienced and therefore know what we are doing. Obviously you are belligerent and argumentative and we don't have time for it.