Song Contest U-Pick - GAME OVER

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And 1shot cop don't forget that

@Porkens, only thing that beats watcher/doctor combo is a roleblocker or ninja to prevent the watch

see: Mini 1513

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There's ABSOLUTELY a roleblocker if Watcher/doctor is legit.

Why are you bringing multiball spec into this when we've had one nightkill in 2 nights

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Notscience. How demoralised in this are you feeling? Are you resigned enough to a loss to consider seeing a nacho hydra swing?

I'm fancying that vote right now. Because if I'm the only fucking town player left sat between two scum teams I want to check if my gut still works.

I don't want nachomollie to swing. I really like them for town.

Pedit-

OH ALSO CABD YOU TOOK ONE KILL SO 2 UNACCOUNTED IF MULTIBALL

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Cabd I want an explanation for mollie's play being scumaligned please

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Why would drawing Hirsute imply multiball btw

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It's in reference to something he said earlier.

I don't know, I have trouble believing multiball with how this game has gone.

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Can we throw in a song claim with that

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What the fuck.

Don't fucking vote porkens Nati.

@Cabd, I asked for a song claim like day one. I don't care if its alignment or role indicative, I'm just curious.

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That he's probably town.

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No, I wish because I love setups that have those.

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It's kinda in agreement with mastin, this is a social game, song picks tell about a person.

Plus I never got to gloat because I got the best song

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Oh, I'm not sure you're a town roleblocker.

I think the rest are perfectly fine however.

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What the fuck are you doing former

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Do you (as scum) claim doctor with a claimed xshot bulletproof?

Because I wouldn't, and I don't think he would either

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I'm at a loss, really.

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Updated reads list and reasonings coming after this game

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2. morph the cat (Cabd + Fferyllt hydra) PranaDevil- TOWN because of claim but it bugs me this is the only reason I'm townreading them and I'm not the authority on reading either of them so
3. T-Bone- NULL- Hiraki was confident he was town, but I liked Nacho's case. The claim is sketch imo
4. Mastermind of Sin- NULL Because I seriously have no idae
5. 50 Shades of Purple (Nachomamma8 + pirate mollie hydra)- TOWN but I'll probably get paranoid of them sooner or later. Mollie's talk with me earlier today/yesterday seemed genuine as fuck
6. AJ the Epic caledfwitch InflatablePie- NULL because \o/
7. Desperado- TOWN but it's weaker and I can't place why I have it
8. Paschendale- NULL, one of my better picks for scum. Asked for time to get accustomed to the game D1, really hasn't shown up at all in recent times, more has faded into the background. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Nachomollie and morph thoughts on him plox

9. Empking Agent Minnesota (PhDScar + Shaboostein hydra) NULL Empkings in this game?
10. Formerfish TOWN The way he was trying to get pecan lynched felt legit and the ccing bit seems townie
12. Garruk Relentless (Natirasha + MafiaSSK hybrid) NULL I'm not raelly sure what to do with these two
13. pieceofpecanpie- TOWN because of interaction with me earlier today and claim
15. Porkens- NULLTOWN because I like Gen's reasons for townreading him and I liked his claim but at the same time I have reservations due to the CC so fuck if I know
16. mykonian M45t1n- TOWN, stance re: me and predecessor was pretty townie
17. Generic- TOWN <3
18. SpyreX- NULL- I think he's town but at the same time I keep thinknig about 1501 and can't sell myself on a townread
19. Micc Maenara NULL He's still in this game?
20. notscience SEXY

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People I'd be most inclined to vote

TBone
Pasch
notscience
MoS
AJ
GR
Spyrex
Micc

tldr everyone in my nulls and me

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I can agree, but you're town, and after TBone flips scum you're most likely dead tonight. I want to rack your brain about people.

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16) I don't know, I feel like he's kinda town. Doing things is a pretty poor indicator of alignment imo (I'm town and Gen is town but in the meantime Empking I don't really know)

19) Hmm. Still null, but more for a reason I'm not sure how to digest what he's done.

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Why do I get the feeling we're in lylo based on how Tbone's posting trying to save pork

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MOLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

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Can we quicklynch the fuck out of empking tomorrow? I'm getting flashbacks to GM's mini normal

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Gen, I take it you don't want Pork to die?

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I don't like lynching doc claims when unCCed.

If someone can ease my concerns I will return to it. Until then not wanting to run the risk.

You might want to go check Spyrex's ISO

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Are we going to finish the massclaim or no?

Does someone have the power to give us three lynches in one day because I've got a mean hankering for porks/mos/empking blood

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morph do we quicklynch the fuck out of ^ or Empking tomorrow

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You clearly didn't read the past few pages. Let me know when you do, because I've said why I want you dead and that's not it.

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No I had a null read on him but Empking is giving me paranoia flashbacks to GM's mini normal

And I think mollie was the reason we ewren't lynching him so he could "get accustomed" to large themes (aka he AtE'd the fuck out of everyone promised improval and lets see how much we've gotten from him ____________)

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Desp I really don't think PoPP is scum, both of the last two have a shot to be it.

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If 50 dies tonight I'm going to cry

VOTE: porkens

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VOTE: Empking

CHOO CHOO

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I see them, but PoPP is probably town.

(Pasch MoS Empking) are all great wagons today.

As for your 50 paranoia, lets look at the kills-

N1 we had one on Morph, who are both dangerous players if they get in the game (just like nacho) but as they said, not a likely protect

N2 Majiffy dies, a PR (prob got rolecopped) as well as another really strong town player

N3 we have a bunch of claims, one being a Doctor/lover. Nobrainer kill.

Easy to see why they're alive tbh

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Oh, 5 man scumteam-

Pork

MoS

Tbone

Pasch

Empking

That seem viable to everyone?

VOTE: Tbone

HI NACHO

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Do you think MoS being insufferable is alignment indicative nacho?

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we have a theory about lovers but your protect claim make ssenes and we called it

aj wants to lynch 50

i think all remaining scm are in

{T-Bone, 50 Shades, Paschendale, Empking, PoPP, mykonian, Deasvail, notscience}

so i would lynch there like emp
lets lych empking

1)

Bite me

2)

Your pool added me 50 myko and dv to mine >.>

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She was at the reckoning, nice try though scumfuck

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VOTE: Empking

Empking then MoS then Pasch, gg no re

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For those keeping score at home, I'm lining up lynches

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...or I could do Empking today.

Lynch fodder in order of preference:

1. Pasch
   or
   Empking
   
   
2. mykonian
   - seriously no one's paid any attention to this guy
   
3. DeasVail
   - same as above, also noticeably absent from MoS' post 2896. Is that a slip?
   
4. notscience
   - first thought is VI, but I advice town not to dismiss him on those grounds, especially when lylo starts approaching
   
5. Generic
   - really hard to pin down, as with notscience I don't recommend him being around for lylo
   
6. MoS
   - picked up his game a lot over recent Days, but early stuff was troublesome. Remember scum are surely under the pump by this point, so watch closely. (also see DeasVail)
   

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7. Garruk
   - he's more than likely being honest about the RB, but I've got a question mark over the alignment. No scum RB's have flipped, something has been blocking me, so clearly I have my suspicions
   
8. AJ
   and
   Desperado
   - AJ's slot looked bad before AJ came in and he's flaked of late, especially after the claim. Desp has steadily become more ridiculous. The tunnel on me is lazy or scummy or both. Remember, we've just had an Encryptor flip so scum could've formulated the claim/crumbs at any point. It's unlikely/extremely ballsy of them and they're down this far on the list for exactly that reason. Just bear the thought in mind
   

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9. morph
   - I believe the claim, it's pretty far-fetched as a scum move
   
10. Spyrex
    - claim seems to hold up thus far, although I really need to re-evaluate what happened with this slot, Garruk's RB claim and how it's panned out thus far. Surely this is high priority NK for scum, or at least the other lover is. I guess something will give between Spy/FF/lover eventually and it'll become clearer
    
11. Formerfish
    - a tunneling poop maybe, but his CC on Porkens seems completely town motivated. No reason for doubt at this point
    

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12. Pecan
    - I'm not voting myself, I'm delicious

Like seriously, my top 3 lynches are in your top 5 yet I'm a liability in lylo?

Lmfao

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Voting masons is fun

You know what's more fun? Selfvoting as an IC

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I hope it gets filled with motivation to look at some crucial slots (Pasch, Empking, notscience, DV etc.) because they're getting a free-ride.

I'm here to answer questions, but nobody gives a fuck what I think anyways rofl. You ask I'll answer, but we could also just PL me first if that'd be easier

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That's poor form, blaming others for your lack of play. If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door.

Back to this shit again? I stepped it up and came to a pool of 3 scum (in the remaining) (conveniently in your top 5), yet you're asking people to not let me pass by, saying you'd want to PL me before lylo EVEN THOUGH YOUR SCUMREADS MATCH UP ALMOST IDENTICALLY. That's bullshit.

@morph, thanks.

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Also, why haven't we finished mass claiming yet?

Pasch, Emp, NS, mykonian--let's get on with it.

Say I'm town first

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Yo morph

You know what I realize?

Yesterday it sounded like the consensus was (Pasch, Empking, MoS)

Yet wagons can't seem to form on these three

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Yo morph

You know what I realize?

Yesterday it sounded like the consensus was (Pasch, Empking, MoS)

Yet wagons can't seem to form on these three

MoS is off our table currently.

This is a post. Content is forthcoming.

Why?

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Why do you think it's so hard to get a consolidated wagon going?

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I don't get this wagon on Pecan

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Notscience.

Who do you want to see lynched?

Pasch, Emp, MoS

Who do you want to see night killed?

Assuming Vig shot see above.

Assuming scum nightkill, one of the masons

Who so you want to see win best picture at the oscars?

Frozen

Desp can also bite me because there's no way in holy hell I'm scum

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Desp can also bite me because there's no way in holy hell I'm scum

Why not?

Are you seriously asking me to make a town-case for myself

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I am not convinced my lover is town, no.

It can be resolved later, I think. You had some thoughts about the VCA?

The day 1 wagon looks chock full of town

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I only have Pasch who I'd like to lynch, but with a week left there's no rush.

Don't mind the scumposting guys

VOTE: empking

Let's just go to DL and then scramble to get a lynch off

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I've already said I'll claim after desp says I'm town

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Cups/VT

I crumbed the song in like every reference of pitch perfect

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Meh.

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Hey Cabd, would you say a scum doctor lover and a town doctor lover be a thing?

Rather, is that viable?

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I know.

I'm saying, would it make sense that scum get a doctor and town get a doctor that are both lovers?

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So we have 2 doctor claims.

And I'm pretty sure Generic said soemthing or other about a Vig shot.

So do you think Scum could have a doctor/JoaT connected to the TOWN Doctor, so if one group loses power the other loses a lot of power too?

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Well, this is awkward. 2 of my scumreads voting the third, the ony 2 voting him.

Glad to see at least Generic's kept his shit together.

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For fucks sake ffery, don't do this to me.

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I think they look town and I actually agree because let's be honest, we haven't seen enough scum power flip to combat 2 doctors, a watcher, 2 masons, x-shot BP, 1-shot op and a "roleblocker"

I feel like he feels different today than before but that might be due to this being his only game.

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Ffery I've only played with Generic town once and that was WTP but I've played with himscum twice

This does not sound like himscum

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Oh hey I

do

know what else to say about notscience: He's the other unconfirmed that was on DV's wagon.

So if you're someone who's townreading Pasch, like Desp, then notscience becomes a good bussing candidate for that wagon. He stayed on for a bit longer, but eventually went for Spyrex as well, so it's a viable association tell there.

I frankly have 0 idea how people could be scumreading the epitome of obvtown but hey, that's just me

Then I look and see people voting Generic and remember what we're dealing with

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Nati we both know what I'm about to tell you so let's cut the pretense. What gave you that delusion?

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Why am I the epitome of obvtown? Because I have absolutely 0 scum motivation in anything I have done this game. It's been all town motivation, I've made it BLATANTLY obvious I'm town.

Generic's obviously town as well based on how he sounds which has been hit on by about everyone who isn't losing their minds this game (Except Desp because he thinks I could be scum)

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Why am I the epitome of obvtown? Because I have absolutely 0 scum motivation in anything I have done this game. It's been all town motivation, I've made it BLATANTLY obvious I'm town.

Generic's obviously town as well based on how he sounds which has been hit on by about everyone who isn't losing their minds this game (Except Desp because he thinks I could be scum)

Here's the thing. You've played like you just don't care. Which is its own soapbox but I will give you are right - with how things are shaking down I'd be reaaaly surprised if you were scum.

The difference is Generic is

pretending

to not care. Its been a litany of the same bullshit that vanishes the second he's off the radar again.

Look at the exchange. He gets voted for, votes for empking and in the same post says fish is scum. Gets called out and says I'm the scum because "hurf derf no docsaves lol". When he's shown that he is

blatantly wrong in his basic assertion

, he plays, literally, illiterate. Yesterday he's willing to tell me to shove it up my ass and yet "somehow" doesn't remember there were multiple doc saves but today its /wrists the mean people want me lynched and a god damn self-vote.

But, the second a single spark of not getting lynched starts its back to well my meta says bullshit and "well if no one else believes me..." complacency.

Its all complete and utter garbage. It needs to get lynched.

While I do understand where you're coming from and I understand your lack of appreciation for Meta, it really does dictate hhis alignment.

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Cabdffery why do you have to flip before lylo

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I wish we had lynched Pasch.

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Scum has a roleblocker.

Wasn't this obvious like pages ago

It's the only counter for doctor/watcher

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So here's my question

Could both town and scum have a RB?

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VOTE: Garruk

I agree with FF.

Scum is GR, Emp, x.

pedit-

wat why spy over emp

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Nati you do realize I've been the one saying there's a reasonable chance scum have one person in the lovers right

Like for days

But that being said they did claim prior to the encryptor flip, so it could have been a planned gambit (add something anti-town to try and cover up for all the PRclaims of their buds)

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notsci why are you voting Garruk?

FF's claim

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I have no idea what game you're talking about

I'll vote spyrex in a bit

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I targeted notscience on night 3...

with what

did I miss something

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WHY

I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL

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So I take it you don't want me putting spy to L-1

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Thanks for leaving me alive for lylo Nati

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Thanks for leaving me alive for lylo Nati

the fuck does this mean?

1526.

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Retrospect fucking scuks

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I still think there's scum in the lovers fwiw

I still don't see why you're townreading MoS

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Scum still have a RB or a strongman.

I'm having trouble believing that it took this long for FF to die regardless of the case.

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That's what I'm thinking too.

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I wasn't expecting a selfhammer tbh

I was about a day from unvoting

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I think the scumteam is in (Empking, Spyrex, Pasch, MoS)

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Morph I'm really going to need you to sell em on MoS town if you believe it

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Come on

>.>

@morph

Generic popp and you

Order of strength (we all know how I feel regarding the two of you and lylo and I'm already fighting off paranoia of you two)

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I'm worried because all those claims and confusion sounds just like something you would do

But idk if you'd risk losing your daytalk like that

[notscience]

Wait has spyrex been trying to vca with an encryptor flip

Also I think poop was the first to mention scum rb

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Hey, pasch is in this game.

I want to lynch him.

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Also I was looking through majiffys and nachomollies Isos regarding you

Majiffy said to trust mollies read on you but it looks like the only actual read from them on morph is based on cabd which bugs me

Nachomollie wanted mos blood as did majiffy fwiw

Pasch is here because Mollie saved his ass d1

Generic and I are here because lolthrows

I don't see scum morltivation for leaving mos alive though

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Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee paranoia

I really want to lynch empking atm

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Why exactly don't you see Generic town?

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I don't really see pecan-scum.

Why is MoS town?

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Hi PA!

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PA I'm going to wait for you rofl

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PA I'm going to wait for you rofl

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^

I am going to comment on this tomorrow

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So, I have to go look back at past games, but in both games I've been in with pasch he's swung, one as as scum and one was as town.

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Peng your job is to smack me upside the head if ffery starts acting like she did in 1526 and I don't realize it.

I can see popp-scum.

I kinda want empking blood more than anyone else today tbh.

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I don't know, as much as I want to vote Pasche right now I prefer empking blood.

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PA I already suggested town/scum pr lovers

Was my lead theory for a while there

I see Spyrex's point.

I don't like the pasch wagon, especially the fact that my two strongest townreads aren't on it and it's already at L-1.

I don't like it.

Not one bit.

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@peng

You and morph weren't on it.

Which means scum are bussing.

I also endorse a hammer, because when he was town and they were mylo lynching him he kicked and fought a lot harder than this.

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I really played that last day bad. I should have fought the lynch more after my gut was going nuts over it.

I don't understand Pasch's reaction though, nor do I really understand any of his play from a town perspective (granted, this is me talking so you'll all probably take it with a grain of salt)

I don't know why you had generic down as a possible mislynch, there seemed like no members of the town all that interested in his blood, but meh.

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I agree regarding site meta (and I know this is the pot calling the kettle black).

Town loses more games than scum wins is what I've seen.

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Lmfao

That's great

I totally forgot about htat