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Venmar · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:44 am

vote:nobody special

I wish Thor665 was in this game >.>

Venmar · Post Post #204 (isolation #1) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:05 pm

Yeah, everything Sangres has been saying this game feels out of tune for his town meta and feels forced.

Vote: Sangres

Venmar · Post Post #278 (isolation #2) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:55 am

But Sangres isn't anywhere near this trolly or obnoxious as town?

Venmar · Post Post #293 (isolation #3) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:16 am

In post 281, Zdenek wrote:I take it that you think Nacho is a terrible mafia player?

In post 292, Shadoweh wrote:Have you just not played with Nacho or something? He's pretty boring as scum.

RIP fferyllt, the forgotten member of the

Sangres

Nacho hydra.

Venmar · Post Post #294 (isolation #4) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:20 am

I'm reading Howard as town.

Sangres might actually totes not be scum though, I pride myself on being able to read Nacho very well and I guess this doesn't connect too much with his scum game either. Nor his town game, or the town game of the Sangres hydra overall. It's a grey area and it now makes me twitch.

Unvote

Venmar · Post Post #305 (isolation #5) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:23 am

In post 297, Flipping Awesome wrote:Venmar, I'd like to hear what of
Nacho
's posts you found objectionable at first and how you now changed your mind.

(RIP fferyllt)

There aren't specific posts that made me think Sangres was scum per say, it was his whole vibe in the first batch of his posts in his ISO. They are very obnoxious, un-serious, and trolly, which I found very out of character for both Nacho, and the Sangres hydra as whole in general per their town meta i've seen. His #216, where he votes on Katsuki, was particularly out of character for Sangres, and the reaction itself was objectively bad. I changed my mind on Sangres a bit when several people reminded me that this isn't necessarily Sangres/Nacho's scum meta

either

, which nullified my read.

Sangres's recent posting, noticeably #295, have been a major improvement and are helping me town-read him now.

Venmar · Post Post #311 (isolation #6) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:59 pm

In post 308, Flipping Awesome wrote:but what was it in your post 294 that you saw about Sangres that made you unvote?

Jesus christ if you do not understand why I unvoted by now, then you need to read harder.

Venmar · Post Post #318 (isolation #7) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:10 pm

In post 314, Shadoweh wrote:Venmar's Day 1 in a nutshell: "I have no scumreads and I must talk about how Town Nacho is."

Gross and untrue distortion of facts is gross.

I'll move on on my own pace, you can stuff it if that bothers you.

Venmar · Post Post #330 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:46 am

I'm a guy that moves at his own pace, and I tend to focus on mainly just one scumread at a time, so when I decide that said scumread is null or probably town, as in this case, it temporarily slows me down, and I don't like any of the other candidates on the table to be honest?

- Katsuki is an iffy lynch because I think he's being either policy lynched for being annoying or for just being Katsuki? He's just all caps voting and Sangres, Nero, and LLD are very unconvincing in what look like derp votes. Katsuki is a bad lynch.
- Tim Howard looks town since his two most recent posts look legit. It might be because I like their vibe, though it's probably because they actually haven't done anything scummy? Call it gut.
- Curelean is probably the best vote of the three, but I don't want to exactly vote him because all that UT has provided us is "Cureleans first posts are scummy" and that's it. I also think Cureleans very first post where they say "Oh empire must approve everything" was probably meant to come across more of as a joke and un-serious anyways?

In post 322, Zdenek wrote:Scum Venmar might be telling us that Tim Howard is town.

---

Zdenek, do me a favor and stop being a smartass, and just vote me.

I like Kanye, Zdenek, and somewhat Curelean the most for scum to be honest.

Venmar · Post Post #332 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:34 am

Meh, I tend to read Nacho/Sangres but I don't talk to him overly too much. Most games we had together are examples of this.

Venmar · Post Post #334 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:08 am

aww thats a pretty train

Venmar · Post Post #341 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:27 am

no opinion

Venmar · Post Post #356 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:24 pm

In post 349, Nero Cain wrote:the votes on Kat as PL (untrue) and him being annoying (also untrue)

Oh yeah? Help me understand then Thor, make me sheep you for the extra votez.

In post 352, Cerulean wrote:1) If you thought Nacho was playing to neither his town game nor his scum game and this is "a grey area that makes [you] twitch" (#264), why the unvote and the backing off of the hydra in general?

- Because I no longer wanted to vote for someone I didn't fully think was scum? When someone hits a grey area I tend to back off. I'm quite sure I said this wasn't just Nacho too, but also the Sangres hydra as a whole.

In post 352, Cerulean wrote: 2) If you pride yourself on moving at your own pace and doing your own thing, why does UT's read/reasons for the read on my slot seem to factor so heavily on your decision regarding whether to vote my slot at all?

- What..? I said I do my own thing, does that mean what other people say can't factor into my own stuff?

I would appreciate if people would fucking stop bothering me about Sangres and making me talk about him and then fucking hating and scumreading me for doing just that. My reads are always gut and feeling based, I never do cases anymore either.

Oh, and,

Vote: Zdenek

Venmar · Post Post #403 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:14 am

Vote: Curelean

Venmar · Post Post #424 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:39 am

In post 417, Tim Howard wrote: --blah blah blah---
VOTE: zdenek

Mmmmmmm, <3

Venmar · Post Post #456 (isolation #15) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:34 am

In post 450, Cerulean wrote: God, I just love it when scum completely fold under the crushing weight of my arguments,

Lol, yeah okay, whatever you say man.

Venmar · Post Post #531 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:28 pm

In post 513, Cerulean wrote:Anyway, I am sorry for any confusion over our slot. My need for a break for mafia and the drama has been building for some time and this weekend just kinda pushed it over the brink.

Oh my god, I think I lost track of how many times you said stuff like this?

Venmar · Post Post #538 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:01 pm

In post 537, Cerulean wrote:Oh my god, I think I lost track of how many times you said stuff like this?

It must suck to only have one finger and still not be able to count to one.[/quote]
Um

In post 487, Cerulean wrote:Good news: I got some messages from Tammy this morning saying she'll be back either tonight or tomorrow and that she just needed to step back and take a break (which is good because I have a ton of work I need to get done today myself >_> ).
Sorry for the confusion that it caused and hopefully things will be cool from here on out.

In post 513, Cerulean wrote:Anyway, I am sorry for any confusion over our slot. My need for a break for mafia and the drama has been building for some time and this weekend just kinda pushed it over the brink.

That's two, but that's just a skim, and I saw

similar

shit too.

I didn't do much of the posting in Chef Mafia. The parts I did are very obvious.

Venmar · Post Post #539 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:02 pm

In post 535, Nero Cain wrote:
vote:Venmar

no offense but you're shit, Majiffy would be disappointed in you Thor

Venmar · Post Post #541 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:13 pm

learn to read me

Venmar · Post Post #544 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:33 pm

because thor doesn't vote majiffy

also everything you said about me =/= scum, being "wrong" (which, lol, i still don't think I was) isn't a scumtell

Venmar · Post Post #577 (isolation #21) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:25 am

In post 575, Zdenek wrote: Venmar's responses to suspicions are horrible.

or you just dont understand how i play, or the meaning behind the shit i am saying

curelean should be the lynch today guys?

Venmar · Post Post #590 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:38 pm

In post 586, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 544, Venmar wrote:also everything you said about me =/= scum, being "wrong" (which, lol, i still don't think I was) isn't a scumtell
What's the pro-town motivation in miscategorizing the Kats lynch?

I have a town read on Kats
I have kats town meta that suggest its town
I have a scumread on a player voting kat

The seem like the only pro-town reasoning for you to be against a kats lynch and you had none of these so....poo-pooing away a lynch 'cause its a "policy lynch" despite no one even calling it a policy lynch or voting kat 'cause we don't like it.

Listen, I evaluated it as a policy lynch because:

In post 93, Nero Cain wrote:says the piece of lynchbait that's going to lurk all game.

Here you call Katsuki lynchbait for being likely to lurk?

In post 120, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 109, Katsuki wrote:WHO THE FUCK
POSTS FULL READ LISTS
ON PG FUCKING FOUR
someone that's not a useless troll.

Here you insult him for "being a useless troll."

In post 201, Nero Cain wrote:fuck a no lynch, lets kill this.

vote:Katsuki

And.. this is where you vote Katsuki. Okay, so how do you expect me to deduce you are voting Katsuki for anything but him possibly lurking or being a troll? This kind of matches my skimmed evaluation of you voting him for being annoying, and these reasons you said seem to fit criteria for a policy lynch. Okay.. well lets see what else you said after the vote?

In post 300, Nero Cain wrote:this game is pretty boring so far. Kat having no content and instead just screaming and yelling would make for an excellent day 1 lynch. Would not be surprised if Nacho was bussin here.

moar kat votes plox.

Sounds like lynching Kat just for being annoying to me?

In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:Kats has done like jack shit so I feel that's self explanatory.

Good job Nero.

SO HOW THE FUCK, AM I SUPPOSED TO COME TO THIS, GAY, FAKE, FUCKING CONCLUSION:

In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:Other than the unreasonable snarky attitude he's flat out wrong. Sangres voted Kats in 174 and then in 216 heavily implies that she does not like Kat's reaction. My vote on Kats in 201 is 'cause well its not doing anything at all and how the hell can you have a town read on that beyond meta? + I know that Nacho busses and I'm perfectly fine with lynching their buddy. LLD's vote came after Kats reaction so I assumed it was for that but I mean saying "oh you guys are lynching Kat for being Kat and also policy" is defending Kat while not having a town read seem totes scum-motivated.

HOW AM I WRONGLY DISCATEGORIZING YOUR FUCKING GODAWFUL PEICE OF SHIT VOTE WHEN YOU SEEM TO HAVE VOTED KATSUKI EXACTLY FOR THE REASONS I SUSPECTED? GO. DIE.

holy fuck

im done

im done

vote: nero cain

learn to play this fucking game

Venmar · Post Post #591 (isolation #23) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:40 pm

nero can take his contradictory, fake ass somewhere else

Venmar · Post Post #635 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:07 am

In post 632, Zdenek wrote:
In post 577, Venmar wrote:or you just dont understand how i play, or the meaning behind the shit i am saying
Well, maybe, could you let me in on it?

read xenosaga, pukk up my wiki page from my signature and check out my latest town games. this is how i behave as town.

Venmar · Post Post #636 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:23 am

In post 629, Nero Cain wrote:Even if you thought I was voting kats for policy (despite saying
"Would not be surprised if Nacho was bussin here."
I mean really, how stupid are you?)

YEAH, OKAY, LISTEN FUCKHEAD, THIS IS BULLSHIT AND LYING, YOU KNOW WHY?
1)

In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:I don't really have much of a case on Sangres other than gut/that early no lynch vote was dumb and some other reasoning I rather not go into right now. And mmmaaaayyybbbeee bussin' Kat.

BECAUSE YOU SAID THIS THE SAME POST YOU FUCKING EXPLAINED YOUR READ, WHICH IS AFTER I MADE MINE.
2) that is the worst reason i have ever seen to vote for someone, because you think someone else was bussing them... before you even have a flip... and considering the busser would be the better vote..THATS DUMB, NERO, DUMB.

In post 629, Nero Cain wrote: once I told you that I was not voting Kat for policy why were you not all "U B LYING,Nero!!!"?

thats what im doing now smartass

In post 629, Nero Cain wrote: Were you waiting on me to pounce on your bullshit so you could throw a hissy fit and try to get town read? That's what it looks like to me.

WOW, YEAH OKAY, DESPERATE STRAWREACHING SCUMFUCK DETECTED

In post 629, Nero Cain wrote: And well, now that you know Kat isn't getting pled it kinda destroys your whole reason for avoiding that wagon...so I want to know what you think about Kats. But no need to worry about me since no one is going to sheep me even though I found scum.

lol, you shouldn't be surprised that people don't listen to you after all of this. i think kat is town because of this, you're still essentially scumreading him for policy/annoying reasons whether you want to admit it or not.

In post 629, Nero Cain wrote: I know part of this crap play is trying to play like Ma Jiffy

im not trying to play

as

majiffy

nero, this game is becoming a clockwork duplicate of the game you and i had long arguments and despite you using the most retarded reasoning that i proved, like in this game, i flipped town. you do this bullshit every game and each time you think you are godsent from heaven with the mandate of being able to read venmar. get over yourself.

Venmar · Post Post #639 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:27 pm

In post 638, Cerulean wrote:but I just wanted to add that he's sure spending a lot of effort responding to/refuting every single one of Nero Cain's posts and none of mine, probably because Nero Cain's way easier to argue against and discredit.

the difference is that nero infuriates me, and you on the other hand i just don't care about

Venmar · Post Post #723 (isolation #27) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:29 am

we should just lynch nero, or curelean, whichever

Venmar · Post Post #732 (isolation #28) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:27 pm

Venmar · Post Post #836 (isolation #29) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:56 am

yeah tim howard still town

Venmar · Post Post #896 (isolation #30) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:44 am

can we lynch nero cain now

Venmar · Post Post #900 (isolation #31) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:46 am

In post 897, sangres wrote:No.

Venmar · Post Post #902 (isolation #32) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:50 am

In post 901, sangres wrote:So we're both on vanity wagons atm. I'm thinking about how to fix that. What are you doing?

idk

Venmar · Post Post #907 (isolation #33) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:57 am

@sixty

- i don't know, do i get townpoints if I sheeping you?

though on a serious scale, reckoner doesn't interest me that much since i can't read him well, and his current actions don't scream scum to me, the only other wagon right now that interests me is shadoweh really

Venmar · Post Post #915 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:10 pm

>.>

<.<

vote reck

Venmar · Post Post #1059 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:11 am

In post 1053, chamber wrote:
Unvote vote venmar

you just made nero stay on my wagon

Venmar · Post Post #1061 (isolation #36) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:26 am

nero, want to see a magic trick?

vote venmar

observe the next votecount

Venmar · Post Post #1063 (isolation #37) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:31 am

you sadden me

Venmar · Post Post #1074 (isolation #38) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:03 am

unovote

vote reckoner

Venmar · Post Post #1079 (isolation #39) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:06 am

actually fuck that vote, i think reck is town, don't feel like sheeping anymore

unvote

ill do something eventually?

Venmar · Post Post #1081 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:08 am

yes ut, you got it, reck is hitting me back, that's why i unvoted him

brilliant

fucking

brilliant

Venmar · Post Post #1083 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:20 am

In post 1079, Venmar wrote:don't feel like sheeping anymore

reading comprehension is hard, really hard nowadays

in case you're still dumbfounded, i was sheeping sixty's read on reck before my vote on myself.

Venmar · Post Post #1086 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:40 am

so is nero (what a surprise)

Venmar · Post Post #1104 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:52 am

In post 1092, Nero Cain wrote:I knew you were a claimed Jiffy.

no you didn't, you thought i was playing

like

majiffy and used that to insult me, you couldn't comprehend my hints and now you're just being a fuckass again

Venmar · Post Post #1155 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:58 pm

tim howard remains a strong town for me, therefore

vote katsuki

Venmar · Post Post #1171 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:48 pm

then leave me alone and vote her

Venmar · Post Post #1194 (isolation #46) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:15 am

nero put katsuki on L-1, trust me, its just one vote

Venmar · Post Post #1197 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:34 am

sarcasm is hard, im sorry

Venmar · Post Post #1199 (isolation #48) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:51 am

what year is it? is trolling a scumtell yet?

Venmar · Post Post #1200 (isolation #49) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:51 am

not that im trolling of course

Venmar · Post Post #1208 (isolation #50) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:45 am

In post 1202, chamber wrote:
In post 1199, Venmar wrote:what year is it? is trolling a scumtell yet?
Yes, clearly I meant all trolling is universally a scum tell *slow clap*.

so just for me?

Venmar · Post Post #1226 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:18 am

Why is Kanye scum?

Venmar · Post Post #1230 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:22 am

Venmar · Post Post #1231 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:22 am

Vote: Kanye

Venmar · Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:12 am

In post 129, kanyeknowsbest wrote:can someonet ell me who i should sheep i dont wanna read those first pages

In post 135, kanyeknowsbest wrote:im gonna call sangria town i thionk

i thought this succession of posts was scummy, since you ask the game who to sheep due to not wanting to read, and then barely a couple posts later you seem to apparently do some "reading" anyways?

Venmar · Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:04 pm

its some scumtell i picked up from Empire (games ago)

Venmar · Post Post #1257 (isolation #56) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:51 am

In post 1255, chamber wrote:This thread is so dead.

+1 for helping it not be dead.

Venmar · Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:34 pm

In post 1283, Nero Cain wrote:My list of abilities doesn't say anything about a double vote and to make me and Venmar both town and make us triple voters if on the same wagon WITHOUT TELLING ME seems...idkswingy and kina bastardish in a way. So maybe I'm just a simpleton but it looks to me like Venmar is a double voter and send the hammering vote in.

No, I am Majiffy, and you are Thor. My role dictates that if you and I are on the same wagon, we create a third vote automatically no matter what you or I say. The whole idea is that Majiffy has this flowchart around sheeping him and Nero, which is the basis behind my passive ability.

Venmar · Post Post #1325 (isolation #58) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:39 am

My lack of follow up on the kanye scumread last day should show how much i believed in it alone. I got nothing to explain because i'm just using the read really to justify my jerk reaction to Kanye, which was negative.

Venmar · Post Post #1335 (isolation #59) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:15 pm

In post 1330, Untrod Tripod wrote:oh, NS would be an EXCELLENT lynch still. and while this game is full of inscrutable souls, I'm not particularly sympathetic.

Venmar · Post Post #1338 (isolation #60) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:30 am

In post 1336, Untrod Tripod wrote:Reading is tech

Reading what? Why do you come across as opportunistic on vulnerable players like NS?

Venmar · Post Post #1350 (isolation #61) » Thu May 01, 2014 4:35 am

In post 1339, Untrod Tripod wrote:I'm trying to be a nicer player so I'm not going to insult NS

but

Venmar plz

But you essentially called him an inscrutable soul??

Why are you saying Venmar plz? You think im confirmed scum?

Venmar · Post Post #1381 (isolation #62) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:23 am

k this needs to die now

[/b]Vote: UT[/b]

Venmar · Post Post #1382 (isolation #63) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:23 am

you know what

vote: UT

Venmar · Sat May 03, 2014 10:22 am

So you're scummy but the least scummy?

Venmar · Sat May 03, 2014 10:27 am

Yeah ok

Venmar · Post Post #1432 (isolation #66) » Sun May 04, 2014 5:33 pm

Because he realizes he's faking his scumread on me by not voting me right now.

Venmar · Post Post #1433 (isolation #67) » Sun May 04, 2014 6:20 pm

I Just had a small injury with my bad knee that I broke in the past, i'm going to be taking a short V/LA to rest and heal and make sure it's okay. Sorry for inconveniences.

Venmar · Post Post #1523 (isolation #68) » Tue May 06, 2014 9:59 am

Okay, I think I am feeling better now, my leg is good.

However.

Nothing I care about, please lynch UT

Venmar · Post Post #1563 (isolation #69) » Wed May 07, 2014 4:09 am

FA now realizes arguing with Nero Cain is as useful as trying to light a match with a stick of water.

In post 1561, Untrod Tripod wrote:why? he should know well enough that if he sent it to someone who wasn't really townreading them, the response would probably be exactly what mine was

send it to someone who is already inclined to townread you and you're more likely to "confirm" yourself

What the fuck? Is your view of using a role an anti-town one? "OH I THINK I'M GOING TO BE GIVING MY CARDS TO PEOPLE I DON'T FUCKING TRUST TROLOLOLOL"

Venmar · Post Post #1582 (isolation #70) » Wed May 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Sympathetic jump incoming:

Vote: Nero Cain

Because this development is too juicy

Venmar · Post Post #1629 (isolation #71) » Fri May 09, 2014 3:18 am

From my POV it seems silly you wouldn't actually be told.

Venmar · Post Post #1631 (isolation #72) » Fri May 09, 2014 3:24 am

The fact you could generate the second vote yourself, without me voting after you as a prompt, should be enough proof you have as much control over it as I.

Venmar · Post Post #1780 (isolation #73) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:08 pm

Xenogears is the game you want to be looking at for the best representation of my town meta >.>

also I think Empire can't read me for shit in reality

Venmar · Post Post #1782 (isolation #74) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:13 pm

In post 1770, Untrod Tripod wrote:might I suggest Venmar?

that double vote of his sure would be mighty good to get rid of yessir

i want to think you're good at this game but you really aren't, just a fucking broken record of bs and scumfuckery

Venmar · Post Post #1783 (isolation #75) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:18 pm

In post 1781, Flipping Awesome wrote:
In post 1780, Venmar wrote:Xenogears is the game you want to be looking at for the best representation of my town meta >.>

also I think Empire can't read me for shit in reality
What do you think of his analysis here?

What am I supposed to think? He fucked me up that game? I also think that Empire isn't doing any of it in this game.

That game was also back when I was atrocious as scum and is an incredibly poor representation of my meta. So if people could fucking stop thinking they are the shit and so fucking clever by meta-ing that game on me, that would be fucking swell because it's infuriating. If you want to go "think" you know my scum-meta, then go read House of Cards or UDesign, then fail anyways at knowing how to read me.

Because nobody ever can

Venmar · Post Post #1789 (isolation #76) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:43 pm

No, Empire pegged me that game because he pegged me, doesn't make him "Venmar Reading God", especially since this is the only game i've had with him since then.

Every single game I am I get scum read to oblivion and ran up. People should just calm down and fuck off.

LOL INB4 ATE

Jesus go away

Venmar · Post Post #1791 (isolation #77) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:46 pm

YEAH VENMAR IS A SHIT PLAYER, I FUCKING AGREE

I'll scumhunt when I scumhunt, and when people aren't eating my asshole 24/7

Venmar · Post Post #1792 (isolation #78) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:47 pm

Also my definition of scumhunting isn't really making cases, I haven't made a case in years, I gut read. BUT I GUESS THATS JUST TOO FUCKING SHALLOW FOR Y'ALL

Venmar · Post Post #1793 (isolation #79) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:50 pm

I hate being mad

going to go play some game and cool off

Venmar · Post Post #1881 (isolation #80) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:08 am

In post 1879, Flipping Awesome wrote:I also think it is possible Venmar's scumhunting appears scummy on the surface
even if he is town
.

We really just need to lynch Nero

Venmar · Post Post #1896 (isolation #81) » Sun May 11, 2014 6:52 am

Because UT is scum?

Or maybe it's because he wants to avoid a NL

PEdit: @FA

Venmar · Post Post #1897 (isolation #82) » Sun May 11, 2014 6:55 am

I think Curelean is town by the way >.>

Venmar · Post Post #1902 (isolation #83) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:05 am

Nero Cain is the best lynch, stop fooling yourself. His push on me was the most absurd peice of shit I have ever experienced in my mafiascum career

Venmar · Post Post #1904 (isolation #84) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:08 am

Constantly saying "Lets lynch Venmar" over and over again is town, I agree.

Venmar · Post Post #1908 (isolation #85) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:10 am

In post 1905, chamber wrote:Stop looking for reasons why people are town. Seriously.

Yay we agree on something!

Venmar · Post Post #1911 (isolation #86) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:13 am

Venmar · Post Post #1916 (isolation #87) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:20 am

In post 1912, Flipping Awesome wrote:I feel like they are at least not part of
the same scumteam
.

W-wait what?

Venmar · Post Post #1923 (isolation #88) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:27 am

In post 1920, Flipping Awesome wrote:Penguin and I wondered if you could be part of different scumteams back in D1 but I think it is less likely now with only one kill N1.

That's.... okay

Venmar · Post Post #2004 (isolation #89) » Tue May 13, 2014 1:47 pm

Venmar · Post Post #2006 (isolation #90) » Tue May 13, 2014 2:31 pm

>.>

<.<

Okay then

Venmar · Post Post #2007 (isolation #91) » Tue May 13, 2014 2:34 pm

In post 1994, Untrod Tripod wrote:
vote Venmar

again. because he's still scum.

Curious, what exactly are your reasons? The last couple times I talked to you, you misrepped me, and showed interest in a shady policy/lurker lynch over mine. Hmmmm?

Venmar · Post Post #2019 (isolation #92) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:16 am

Venmar · Post Post #2020 (isolation #93) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:18 am

In post 1241, Venmar wrote:i thought this succession of posts was scummy, since you ask the game who to sheep due to not wanting to read, and then barely a couple posts later you seem to apparently do some "reading" anyways?

Empire why didn't you pick up this scumtell on Kanye when I did? I mean, I got it from you and it turned out right..?

Venmar · Wed May 14, 2014 11:41 am

Yeah, you tell them Reck!

Venmar · Post Post #2031 (isolation #95) » Wed May 14, 2014 3:29 pm

Yeah, also, since scum is scum who has dodged me yet again

Vote: UT

Venmar · Post Post #2036 (isolation #96) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:24 pm

I don't remember what thread it was from, sorry >.>

Don't think it really matters.

Venmar · Post Post #2045 (isolation #97) » Fri May 16, 2014 3:13 am

How did you come to this conclusion exactly Plum?

Because that vote should find its place on UT, not me.

Venmar · Post Post #2056 (isolation #98) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:20 pm

Because Science, obviously...

Venmar · Post Post #2057 (isolation #99) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:21 pm

Going to read up on kanye and his connection to LLD to see what this wagon on her is all about.

Venmar · Sun May 18, 2014 5:01 am

Busy days, busy days, but I did my dutiful read over Kanye with LLD in mind. It seems like scum-scum distancing at the very least, neither of them were willing to push on each other and Kanye seemed to be even weary of townreading LLD. I mean, yeah.

Convinced enough to vote LLD, but won't put her on L-1 to avoid a random hammer.

Venmar · Sun May 18, 2014 5:05 am

Yes, but I don't see many people rallying to my cause for UT, not giving me much of a choice but to switch scumreads?

Get me support for UT and i'll stay there, the guy has been avoiding answering me, and just being an all around scumfuck the entire game.

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 4:16 am

Soo... LLD says UT is scum mainly because of the Reck interactions?

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 4:23 am

I mean, my reasons to suspect UT are slightly different, and more stationed around his lack of a spine around voting and his read on me, and his inability to respond to my comebacks.

The ego stroking makes sense, just curious how you're building a case around interactions between two players you don't know the alignments of for certain?

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 4:40 am

Because I can do alignment reading, and I can make a more confident read from the Kanye connection to you than your UT/Reck thingy is what i'm saying.

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 4:49 am

What I think is that scum players don't necessarily always think 24/7.

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 8:23 am

You should stuff your fist up your arse

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 8:31 am

don't think i get it

Venmar · Mon May 19, 2014 10:32 am

In post 2148, Nero Cain wrote:me. I've been scumreading Venmar since the start of the game. You supposedly have a scumread on Venmar so when it came down to me vs. kayne you voted me. Did you have a town read on Kayne?

In post 2146, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think UT is clear. That "Venmar is my biggest scumread so I'm going to wagon up one of my biggest allies." is p strange. + I don't think he had a town read on Kayne.

In post 2150, Nero Cain wrote:Why did you vote me. Did you have a town read on Kayne?

In post 2153, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2149, Untrod Tripod wrote:the enemy of my enemy is not my friend
*shrugz* then I guess we are different 'cause I'm less likely to scumread someone that's scumreading a player I want dead.

In post 2150, Nero Cain wrote:Why did you vote me. Did you have a town read on Kayne?

Venmar · Tue May 20, 2014 2:36 pm

On what

Venmar · Wed May 28, 2014 6:14 am

i thought the downtime was me getting lynched and the site just dying from that outrage

looks like im alive though, so thats a plus

Venmar · Sat May 31, 2014 12:56 pm

#LeapofFaith

Vote:LLD

Venmar · Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:30 am

In post 2318, Nero Cain wrote:
vote:venmar

So i heard you're an amazing player.

Venmar · Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:34 am

My hammer was a leap of faith, seriously LLD looked like scum and if I didn't do it you guys were going to mislynch me anyways. Honestly both me and LLD voted each other near the end of the day in last ditch efforts to save ourselves and I have no regrets making that hammer, and i never will.

Venmar · Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:30 am

In post 2334, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2333, xRECKONERx wrote:I remember actually thinking Venmar wasn't scum but IDR why
he's on your scum team.

Nero, #1 player on MafiaScum ladies and gentlemen.

Venmar · Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:04 pm

I'm a Majiffy Fanboy, I have a passive day-ability called

DFTBA

, which informs me that Thor is in the game, and makes it so that any wagon that both me and the player playing as Thor are on will gain an extra vote that will appear as "Sheep Majiffy or Thor" in the votecount. I am not told who the player playing as Thor actually is, however, and since my night ability isn't useful, I purposely instantly wanted to subtly find out who Thor was in several posts, such as my first post (#8), and most of my posts in interaction with Nero Cain, after I started to suspect him as Thor.

I also have a night ability called

"Go with the Flow"

, that allows me to make a certain player sheep me as per the flowchart. This makes any and all actions performed by my target instead target me for the night. I am told that this is a X-2 Shot ability, and that my target will be informed of me dragging them to me, if applicable to their role. By my understanding, this essentially makes me a Self-Redirector/Single Target Lightning Rod.

I haven't used my night action at all this game because I view it as mostly as a negative utility, as it's a very hit and miss role that can simply fuck over any and all town poweroles, which I figured were in high quantity early on. It's a role I only feel confident in using to shut down certain players, but even then if I do this to scum they can just be the killer and i'll die, so I decided to instead try to focus on utilizing my passive ability, but working with Nero Cain is something I gave up on almost immediately because it just hasn't been possible and I don't have the nerve or patience to do so.

Vote: Untrod Tripod

Venmar · Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:13 pm

I explicitly said I refused to do so you imbecile

Venmar · Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:39 pm

BECAUSE YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED, I AM NOT GOING OVER THAT SHIT WITH YOU AGAIN

Venmar · Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:29 pm

thanks

peace, ill be back to see if you guys have mislynched me, not going to put up with y'all

Venmar · Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:35 am

In post 2367, xRECKONERx wrote:Pretty interested in hearing why Venmar wanted to survive if he didn't use his ability.

Because I am town and using my ability would either endanger me or screw some town powerrole.

Yeah, Shadoweh, I am essentially a VT since I find my role not that good and because Nero is stupid, but I guess I just don't know how I felt about getting mislynched yesterday, I wanted to roll the dice on LLD before that came to, as I did have problems with LLD's reasoning on UT re: my posts 2123, 2126, and 2129. I was wrong, wow whatever. At least I got to survive until this day to try and redeem myself, but I doubt i'll get justice here anyways, so I might as well try and avenge LLD by lynching UT.

Venmar · Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:47 am

vote: venmar

Venmar · Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:25 am

Oh shit we won

Venmar · Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:33 am

I have no idea how well I did this game or how much I actually contributed to the success of my team, but all I know is that looking back at my play I know I could have performed 3x better. UT and Cerulean played marvelously however, many props to them

.

Venmar · Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:34 am

FTR, I cannot fake rage >.>

Venmar · Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:32 am

I didn't fool her, that comment was me saying I cannot fake rage, and the one that was in this game was legit. Like all my other games.

Venmar · Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:50 pm

In post 3101, Tammy wrote:Beyond that, I'm really not sure why Empire was so intent on busing Venmar.

Yeah idk, you guys (especially UT, for the entire game

) were hard bussing me. My hammer on LLD was agreed on and coordinated in our quicktopic, mainly because UT and I thought LLD couldn't be left alive any longer and risking her not getting lynched was iffy. So I kind of just took one for the team, hammered LLD, and accepted the fact I was going to get roped for it the next day.

What I didn't do right is I probably could have tried to weather it better Day 4 by actually finding a reason for why I hammered. Players like Shadoweh and Reck made good points that it made no sense for me to hammer yet not use my role, when I claimed to have hammered to try and save myself. In that regard, I could have played much, much better if I claimed differently and properly.