Touhou UPick 2 - [Game Over]

[vezokpiraka]

Trolololo.
I'm town, but I'm so town that I drew the only Vanilla role.

Feels good to be Reimu.
Who's Cirno and why did you stole her from me?

oh and btw notscience is scum

vote noscience

[vezokpiraka]

How to read NS for dummies

Is he actively posting in the thread:

Yes- Town

No- Scum

Pretty much nope.

[vezokpiraka]

Also glad to see you can't read the thread I've already said that Feirei likely has Cirno

pedit

^ trufax

Yeah I thought that feirei has cirno. I was just asking to be sure. Who knows, maybe Varsoon is cirno.

[vezokpiraka]

VOTE: notscience

This guy is a buddy with NS.
But let's pressure NS because I want to see how he breaks.

[vezokpiraka]

If we have a day vig please shoot ns if he doesnt become conf town. Do this by page 30

[vezokpiraka]

Gif shut up.
Do something useful.
btw do your votes actually work or are they just for fun.

[vezokpiraka]

I can't form a read on anyone right now, but damn Gaiden is one strange person.

I still think notscience is scum and I want him to post more.

Also is anyone protecting me tonight or should I resent myself to dying night 1?

[vezokpiraka]

notscience why are you scum?

Also whoever if someone shoots me I hope they expect to eat death after that.

I don't think any town vig would kill an innocent.

[vezokpiraka]

Back for a bit.

Muffin's been moved into my town reads.

I feel town vibes coming from pieguy

vezok is conftown and being a nuisance. POST MORE DAMMIT.

Raging Bull is

still

not giving me any town vibes.

GiF is town and I'm willing to take his word for it wrt the spellcard.

And fwiw, I have a townread on Varsoon.

I have a very busy week and sometimes I have to sleep.
I read this thread like 10 times a day. If I feel there is something I should comment on I will.
Right now nothing is happening. There is no big wagon. Nobody has any pressure on him. I don't even want to move my vote.

Do this with me. Wagon notscience. I know you want to.

[vezokpiraka]

Oh god. Can we drop the bullshit about GiF's spellcard?

Also lol at zmuffin who said I'm vig bait.

[vezokpiraka]

@ns: you are just unhappy cause I caught you so early. The day is dragging and nothing is happening.

Everyone top three scum reads:go.

Notscience
Pieguy
Raging bull

[vezokpiraka]

Fine.
Let's see where this goes.

unvote
vote Raging bull

Do have anything left to claim?

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote pieguy

I don't know what is wrong with NS, but he goes town town town posts. I think "Hey , I think he is town." And then he's like scum claiming and I go backt o Ns scum.

I'll let him do whatever he wants this day though.
Pieguy needs death.

[vezokpiraka]

vote muffin

This guy is scum. I'm pretty sure of it and I think it's going to be great lynching a scum day 1.

[vezokpiraka]

Look now guys, zMuffin is picking at the very small details. He brought up the fact someone was not cornered scum about 3 times and it was a very minor unimportant thing.
Town tries to focus on the important stuff to make their case believable. Scum needs things to hold onto in order to blend in.

[vezokpiraka]

I can't find 1543 for the life of me.
Can you link so I can read that scum game?

[vezokpiraka]

@Sakura: Imagine if I wasn't an IC. People would've lynched me already. You now know how I have to fight as town to survive every day.

Also read the game with scum NS. Same type of posting as here. Same non-committal posts. I am not seeing town NS here. If someone has a lot of experience with him please point out what is a town thing he does and provide examples because I'm really only seeing scum NS.

As for Zmuffin. I still think he is scum. He overreacted on bork's vote on him. From his playstyle that is a scum thing to do.

[vezokpiraka]

I don't see any sort of hunting coming from ns. I'll trust you guys on this but ns still seems very scummy to me.
In the mean time what do you guys think of lynching pieguy for the last few awful posts?

[vezokpiraka]

Happy Birthday vezok!

There's something bothering me about pie's latest posts... but what's worse is that i can't remember any scum game where he used that tone either, i've... just never seen pie use that tone ever, so it's confusing me

Thank you!

I'm also glad that I'm not the only one who has a problem with pie.

[vezokpiraka]

So much nothing is happening.
Right now I'm trying to understand if zmuffin would bus his scum doublevoter. Let me check something.

[vezokpiraka]

Hmmm. He was the third vote on the wagon the first time and now he is back on this wagon.
I don't think they are scum together, but I believe lynching RB is a a good idea.

unvote
vote RB

[vezokpiraka]

it's somewhat serendipitous that you're an IC this game because i'd probably be lynching the fuck out of you right now if you weren't

And I'd like to lynch you just for the fact you want to lynch town, but right now let's focus on rb.

[vezokpiraka]

Let's do something.
We still have a week till deadline.

[vezokpiraka]

@muffin: What happens exactly if I target you at night?

[vezokpiraka]

@muffin: What happens exactly if I target you at night?

it won't do whatever you want it to do (so unless your sole aim is to test that it won't do whatever you want it to do, i'd suggest not doing it)

What if I roleblock you?

[vezokpiraka]

i mean, if you have a roleblock, you're more than welcome to use it on me. if you have an investigation, you're more than welcome to use it on me. if you have a vig shot, you're more than welcome to use it on me. if you have all of the above, you're more than welcome to use all of them on me.

but there are better targets than me because you're not going to get the results you want to get from targeting me.

So I got to kill your scumbutt the old fashioned way?

Today you can go free, but tomorrow you die.

[vezokpiraka]

Hi.

Can someone give me a summary for past 5 pages or so?

zmuffin is scum and we have to lynch him, because vigs don't work on him.

[vezokpiraka]

Hi.

Can someone give me a summary for past 5 pages or so?

zmuffin is scum and we have to lynch him, because vigs don't work on him.

And your vote is on me. Ok.



@muffin, gaiden is wary about my role. Gif thinks im town because of my suicide. How about feirei saying she lurks though? Do you still think she is slightly town? How about her participation of discussions? Only answer questions when directed to her.

What makes you think feirei is scum?
You do realize her role is awful for scum. If we decide to lynch her we can't lynch anyone else in the town, because most of the votes will be stuck on her.

[vezokpiraka]

Hey better question, why is your vote on me but zmuffin is scum according to you.

How about you answer my question before asking me something else?

I have a scum read on both you and zmuffin. There is a wagon on you and there isn't one on zmuffin. I can't lynch zmuffin just by myself. I'm not good enough to make a case in which I explain why I think zmuffin is scum.

[vezokpiraka]

Why is sakura looking more and more as scum?

@Sakura: Reasons for Gaiden and Varsoon. Now.

[vezokpiraka]

@victor: why did you vote tne? He hasn't posted in the last few days.

[vezokpiraka]

Let's get back to lynching rb or start a wagon on zmuffin

[vezokpiraka]

vote tne

Varsoon looks like caught scum that hopes to kill sakura tonight.

[vezokpiraka]

Who vigged bitmap?

[vezokpiraka]

Fuck this shit.
This makes no sense.

I don't like GIF. If I die look at GIF please.

I say we lynch gaiden. I think he's bullshiting with the spellcards going away.

unvote
vote gaiden

[vezokpiraka]

/egopost.

I can get to this properly tonight. It'd help to get a rundown of D1. From vezokpiraka preferably.

Someone already did one. I can't find it right cause I can't remember who.
Don't vote for feirei's replacement and that reminds me.

GIf

Can you be so kind to vote varson so one of your multivotes is stuck on him? I know he is confirmed, but just in case someone forgets and votes him.

Sakura used a spellcard that was a delayed cop. She found out that Varsoon is town.

Gif used a spellcard that did something. We still don't know what. He can also vote for everyone at once and knows everyone's flavor.

There was a RB wagon that dissolved. RB can double vote and if he hammers he gains another vote.

We lynched TNE because lurker.

I think strongly that zmuffin is scum.

That is most of what I remember.

[vezokpiraka]

GIF, tell the class w hat my flavor is, please.

I have more coming up after this, but let's hear my flavor so it all makes sense.

Oh cool then.

unvote
vote notscience

[vezokpiraka]

Ns still scum. Why would you destroy all spellcards of someone you aren't sure is scum and also claimed a rolecop?

[vezokpiraka]

Strange how you don't mention my cahracter when my character had a potential PGO last game, gif

Why would pie target you with anything?

Also Joat means he has multiple one shot abilities.

Let's lynch NS guys. If he flips town, which I highly doubt we can lynch GIF the next day to test his claim.

[vezokpiraka]

I can rolecop vezok tonight.

Don't rolecop me. Consider this your only warning.

[vezokpiraka]

Also Joat means he has multiple one shot abilities.

Yes.

Pie had the ability to see cards used and 1 other ability he could use every night.

Does this fall under the classification you just described?

And he didn't target me with anything, we were in a QT together which shows how much you've actually been reading the thread.

You said pie could have targeted a PGO and GIF said only RB may be PGO.
You said that your role was PGO last game or something to that effect.
I said that it would've made no sense for GIF to say you may be a PGO because pie wouldn't have targeted you.
Pay attention scum.

[vezokpiraka]

I can do something too.

Dream Sign "Duplex Barrier" GIF

Ha.

[vezokpiraka]

like i think the most likely scenario if you're scum is you're a role cop who targeted pieguy last night. whether or not scum also performed the kill on pieguy i don't know and don't really care because even if pieguy was the scum night kill, it means nothing in terms of your alignment (ignoring the fact that notscience has a boner for you with his pieguy case)

the thing that bothers me right now is you're attempting to go, "oh, there was no point in me doing that as scum" <- i don't believe that and i don't think you believe that, either. like even if there was no other point in doing it, the fact that you can talk about it as pointless to do as scum makes it not pointless to do as scum.

Also this is so manipulative it hurts me to read it. How can you not see zmuffin scum?

[vezokpiraka]

Sorry mod. I thought I posted in the last days.

I'll wait for nacho and magua to make up their minds and vote ns.

mod: v/la till sunday

[vezokpiraka]

What are we waitin for?
Top three scum: ns, muffin, gaiden

[vezokpiraka]

Why does gaiden vote count as two?

I really don't like how mala always says she isn't scum. I get it once. That's a semi-townish thing to do, but she does it a lot. I believe she is panicked scum who wants to get out of this lynch.

[vezokpiraka]

If I coul vig someome I'd vig zmuffin.

[vezokpiraka]

Victor vs sakura feels like town vs scum where sakura is the scum.

[vezokpiraka]

This game.
I can't find connections between people. Everyone seems scummy individually

[vezokpiraka]

How does everyone flip town?
I am the one who shoot sakura. I was 75 % sure she'll flip scum or at the very least clear some confusion.
My vig also roleblocks the target, but I'm not sure if that interfered with sakura's ability.

Also out of 8 players, probably 4 scums. Me and varsoon are town. That leaves 6 people. We have a 66% of just getting a random scum.

[vezokpiraka]

Kagami, nacho and magua scum team with GIF SK?
That seems the most likely ATM.

Also the players who were lynched are a different shade of blue than the ones killed.

Mod: Are the colors in OP different for a reason?

[vezokpiraka]

@ffery: That card stopped working yesterday. Why do you ask?

[vezokpiraka]

@ffery: it took one more vote to get you lynched. It was absolutely useless

[vezokpiraka]

@ffery: it took one more vote to get you lynched. It was absolutely useless

I had the impression you thought GiF was scum or SK from my hop-around-skim last night. Was I wrong?

I thought he was town.
Now I'm pretty sure he is not though considering all the town flips.

[vezokpiraka]

what do you think about the TNE lynch wagon?

why are you interested in that wagon specifically?

thenewearth [8] - VictorDeAngelo, pieguyn, GuyInFreezer, Varsoon, Sakura Hana, vezokpiraka, notscience, SXTLHGaiden [LYNCH]

It's an interesting wagon from the standpoint Varsoon is claiming.

With the exception of victor ( who I believe is pretty town ) and GIF ( who I don't know what to think about) all the people on it were town.
I feel like in this game everybody is town and there are no scum.

[vezokpiraka]

@ffery: The way he responded to knowing he will die. He didn't seem like concerned scum.

Also I'm thinking there might be only 2 SKs out there.
Does anyone flavor make them SK ffery?

[vezokpiraka]

vote magua

If this guy isn't scum then the game ia trolling us.

[vezokpiraka]

i do not really like his choice of vig shot, but i do not see much point in crying over spilled milk

I expected more mockery of the IC than this, o.o

I think we need a real answer for what Cold Snap did.

And now we have kagami coming in with fluff posting 101.

How to fluff post: Say something that doesn't relate to the game then ask rolefish a little.

Seriously if kagami and magua are not scum together this game is just trolling us.

@zmuffin: If you commute can you use other actions?

[vezokpiraka]

Also for those not seeing it: Magua voted for the only person who he can't unvote. And then he complains of a deadline no lynch. Can you not see how scum he is?

[vezokpiraka]

So yeah, unless your saying I am psychic the argument doesn't fly.

i'm saying if you're scum, you knew the kill was not going to go through

But he signed up for a lot of games thinking he will die. I know this out of game stuff, but it does prove his point.

Also if zmuffin is telling the truth about his ability he is not the SK. I'm still debating him or ffery as SK.

[vezokpiraka]

Yeah let's lynch kagami.

unvote
vote kagami

[vezokpiraka]

Yeah let's lynch kagami.

unvote
vote kagami

Or we could use some common sense and realize that if magua is town, any groupscum other than Victor is unlynchable. There's no reasonable vote other than magua or victor atm.

So you are claiming scum?

[vezokpiraka]

Yeah let's lynch kagami.

unvote
vote kagami

Or we could use some common sense and realize that if magua is town, any groupscum other than Victor is unlynchable. There's no reasonable vote other than magua or victor atm.

So you are claiming scum?

[vezokpiraka]

Did anyone target GIF-slot last night with anything?

Can you rolefish more ?

Also assuming this is probably lylo how about a mass claim except me and varsoon.

[vezokpiraka]

I don't think Kagami-SK since SK is probably investigative immune, and Magua locking himself in a 1v1 this early in the day seems pretty strange for an SK.

magua, kagami and {you, muffin, victor} scum and ffery SK.

We lynch magua or kagami right now. No need to kill SK cause it going to be instalose.

[vezokpiraka]

Yeah nacho. zmuffin is town.
Let's lynch kagami or magua who are practically confirmed scum and see how the game progresses later.

[vezokpiraka]

I've only got my spellcards and our neighborhood exchanges to inform this,
But if he's scum, then my cards are negative town utility.

Explain this fully.

No. Don't do that.
Remember varsoon, you are town and nacho is rolefishing scum.

[vezokpiraka]

So one of the things I look at in LYLO/MYLO, especially as a replacement is the attitudes players bring to the last game day, especially when there are confirmed town, because behaviors kind of flip around. Scum can smell the win in the air. Just one more mislynch. Town suddenly have to care a ton about being mislynched and fight/wriggle/avoid being mislynched in much the way scum do earlier in the game.

Unless the game is sunk in apathy. But, apathy is a friend to players who aren't town.

The only player who really seems to have any passion about winning is Vezok. Which is great and all, but he's sorted.

The only problem is that the game is probably already lost.
We have to lynch scum today assuming 4v3v1 and if the two nightkills either kill two town or town and SK the game is over.

I think magua and kagami are scum together.
I don't doubt varsoon. He got investigated day 1 and I can feel how he feels about being confirmed in a game where only town died.

unvote
vote magua

I'm thinking scum will bus and hope for good nightkills.
BTW SK you have to hit scum or you lose too.

[vezokpiraka]

What did that do varsoon?

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
Vote kagami

Ffery why are posting stuff without reading the thread?

[vezokpiraka]

I'm here.
We still need to lynch magua.

[vezokpiraka]

Cause wagon.
There are more votes on kagami than magua and both are scum.

ffery vote for kagami please.

[vezokpiraka]

Cause wagon.
There are more votes on kagami than magua and both are scum.

ffery vote for kagami please.

What did you make of the posts starting at around 2781 continuing through the next couple of pages?

That kagami tries to get townie points for talking about his abilities.

Please ffery why do you want to prolong this day?
As town we have nearly no chance of winning if it's 4-3-1. We have to lynch scum and then hope for good NKs then lynch scum again and hope for crosskilling if the first night NKs weren't good.

Do you seriously believe kagami and magua aren't scum together and are both town and voting for victor?

[vezokpiraka]

Think of it this way.

Me and varsoon are confirmed town. We can't do anything if varsoon is actually a godfather so that is out of the question.
Zmuffin is pretty much town or SK. If he is scum then I commend him for his play. He put so much effort into the game that I'd let him win.
What we are left with is victor, you, nacho, kagami and magua.

If the scum is you, nacho, victor then a vote for kagami or magua is in your interest.
We can pretty much agree the scumteam is not kagami, victor or magua,victor.
The only corner case is if the scum team is you, nacho and one of kagami or magua.

If this is the case then vote for the other one.

[vezokpiraka]

People don't want to win this.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm kind of tired of arguing with scums about how we shouldn't lynch victor.
I might just vote him out of apathy if the scum don't want to lynch their kagami buddy.

[vezokpiraka]

3-2-1 won't be that much better. And that's assuming best shots. Actually 4-2 would be best shots, but that's just super lucky.

zmuffin please vote kagami, varsoon please do the same.
It's pretty clear now that the scum team is ffery, kagami, magua.

[vezokpiraka]

Because although vigging sakura was an incredibly dumb thing for town to do, usually that kind of total screw up means a course correction.

How did Sakura flipping town change your understanding of the game?

Confirmed varsoon as town and made me rethink my reads.

If you are town ffery please think this through and realize there is no world in which kagami is not scum.

[vezokpiraka]

If varsoon and victor are scum-sk or scum-town I'll apologize for leading the town to failure.
On the other hand you can't say that, because you and magua are buddies who voted victor and have their vote stuck.

[vezokpiraka]

Ffery: If you can't make up your mind just vote for both of them.

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote victor

Fine. I prefer anything to a nolynch.

[vezokpiraka]

I want to see how we lose this game. Mod come faster.

[vezokpiraka]

Wow. Kagami was actually town.
I caught zmuffin day 1 and none helped me lynch him. Fuck his ability that blocks stuff.
Varsoon was incredibly lucky.
Magua was obvious, but oh well.
Also ffery was a troll all game.

Also sorry victor for the hammer' but zmuffin would've done that either way. Also fuck the amount of vigs in the game.

Well played scum. You deserve it.

[vezokpiraka]

I still can't get over kagami town.
That buddying to magua was aaaaah.

[vezokpiraka]

If you "caught" him, why did you waste your vig on someone who was blatantly obvtown, vezok?

BECAUSE HE CLAIMED THAT ABILITIES WOULDN'T WORK ON HIM.
Why would I waste my vig on him? I had every reason to believe it is not a good idea to shoot zmuffin. Magua didn't obvscum himself until day 3.

The thing that hurt was how quickly LyLo came. We lost in 3 game days. That's pretty rough.

[vezokpiraka]

Btw Fakegod you are one of the best mods. I really enjoyed playing.

[vezokpiraka]

Dat 6 town Tne wagon though.

[vezokpiraka]

Tons of things went wrong behind-the-scenes... >.>

I made a typo in the notsci's role PM. (the town auto-win card goes off at 4p MyLo, not 3p; I corrected this pregame)

I didn't realize that QTs had unique visitor count. Goddamn it... (although this problem will be solved since we're using Private Topics now?)

I'm sure there were bunch of other errors. I'm very sick right now and can't remember.

Get better.

This is what makes a good mod. Even if you had problems you managed to solve them behind the scenes.