Marvel Avengers Alliance - Game over

[RachMarie]

whoops I was waiting for the mod to post I had confoimed in PM and then forgot to ego post. my bad

Will read up and post more serious stuff soon, probably later tonight or tomorrow.

[RachMarie]

There is a LOT here to catch up on

The fact it is multiball makes it harder on me for reads too bleah, I was thinking that Yates now Way was town for sure based on both Rufflig and SG pushing Yates as scum, but could be scum for the other team will have to read Yates in ISO.

Nero is definitely town Nero, lots of activity, lots of trolling type snarkiness.

Good to see you again Auntie. Definitely will read your ISO since last time you were scum, however one thing is for sure, you are probably not buddies with Rufflig and SG because last time you were in the position of last one standing, you helped town out to defeat the other scum team. Though atm I have a gut town read on you, so need to follow that up.

Need to read Viomi too, I should be able to peg her since I have played with her and her other name Chrimi, since my first game onsite. MS could you go into more detail on your obv scum read on her?

However this is not feeling like scum MS who I have played with before. So he can go in my town pile as well.

Sorry it is taking me a while to catch up, but there is a lot here to catch up on. And yeah multiball

[RachMarie]

Oops that was a hydra wasn't it? In Voided's mountainous game?

awww thanks for the ♥

[RachMarie]

Umm how in the h e double hockey stick can you make a case on my level of activity? I did apologize for having to be prodded, I have been reading ISOs and making some comments. Granted my reads are not set in stone yet, but seriously relax a tad girl, we will get there soon enough. Also you should check my meta on large games, it always takes me a bit longer to sort everyone out than in the smaller games.

Meanwhile I just finished reading your ISO, Viomi, and yes I have played with both your accounts, so yeah I am seeing some of that old Chrimi rage going on, which for now is enough for me to call you likely town.

Along with Nero of course


MS I was in both Xenos I believe, it has been a while. I died early in both though I am pretty sure. I was scum in the first one.

[RachMarie]

Could peeps do me a favor and stop with the attacks? Please and thank you. It is making it hard to read some of you. I don't just wanna see Player A sucks over and over or Player B has a bs case. I want to hear YOUR thoughts and YOUR ideas.

Auntie please never change, no matter what your alignment, you are always fun to read. Feeling better about you being a potential townie too.

Umbrage is probably town, but I need to read some of his scum games, the game I most remember him in (though I was not playing my fiance NS was), was Gay Mafia and him being the Beloved Princess. He was rather ragey there too so that is probably a good sign not a bad one.

[RachMarie]

What kind of read list is that? I realize that I am still working my reads since I recently replaced in, but you have been playing from the beginning there, beast and most of your reads are NULL?

meh don't buy it one bit

VOTE: Beast dude

[RachMarie]

BTW it says in the FIRST post of the game who replaced whom right under the player list and gives the links and everything.

[RachMarie]

Pere

If you think dude is scum, why not vote for him?


Yes a scum encryptor allows daytalk until they are dead.

[RachMarie]

I doubt it has anything to do with the games, she is going through a lot in RL. So will probably be replaced.

[RachMarie]

Nero I am older than you

We need more Beast votes.

[RachMarie]

Because we are still in CA we will be moving probably sometime in the fall to TN.

[RachMarie]

Not as sure on Viomi and I am willing to give her a chance to post more content because school does come first before games, but I feel pretty good about Beast being scummy as all get out.

[RachMarie]

What kind of read list is that? I realize that I am still working my reads since I recently replaced in,

but you have been playing from the beginning there, beast and most of your reads are NULL?

meh don't buy it one bit

VOTE: Beast dude

I have a case Moz

[RachMarie]

Brainlessly? Viomi how about the fact he has no real reads save for mostly null, he is not even really trying to read players, just coast along.

[RachMarie]

How many large games with multi scum teams have you played with me Viomi? Where I replaced in later in the game?

Seriously chica, I think you are probably town, which is why I am pushing my scum read, Beast dude.

I have some town reads already

I have a scum read already

I am working on other peeps. Of course getting one of the members of scum team B lynched would help clarify things a lot. And put town in a better spot. Though finishing up team A is good too since that means only one NK instead of 2.

[RachMarie]

BTW SG really had a hard on to lynch Yates (Now Way dude) so that is one of the reasons I want to see someone from team B (if anyone who is familiar with the flavor has any idea what they would be called, much appreciated here), lynched and flip.

I am torn tween Yates/Way being town and she was hard core tunneling cause she did not want him to stick around or because she thought he was from team B and was trying to get him lynched for town cred.

[RachMarie]

the soft push on Moz though and his general demeanor makes me feel good about him being town.

So he can also go in my town pile.

[RachMarie]

LOL not upset just stating facts. Pretty sure most of our games have been Newbie, Micro, or Mini sized ones even the open games were not this large, I believe.

[RachMarie]

As for lurkier, overall been on the computer less in the past few months due to health issues and of course my carpal tunnel is now in both wrists and is even worse in my right hand. Since I use that for my mouse as well as two handed typing, it kinda sucks. So I have deliberately limited my computer time quite a bit.

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Bulb

Why do you see Beast as town? It is like the opposite reading from me so I want to know why.

Also since SG was so hot to lynch Yates, (Way's pred), do you think he is on Team B? Or do you think she was really bussing her team mate that hard? My experience with scum SG is she does not hard bus.

[RachMarie]

Pidgey,
nice prod dodge But do you have anything to help us with cases here?

MS
Can you provide me with links to scum games of yours. I know I could meta stalk you, but in the interest of getting more into this game I would prefer links please and thank you.

[RachMarie]

I would like to know too, I have vezo dude as a town read.

[RachMarie]

He seems to be making a solid effort to scum hunt, he provides reasons for his reads, even when they are wrong like on me.

[RachMarie]

useless posts does not automatically mean someone is scum. Do you have anything else, Way?

[RachMarie]

Or was that about someone other than Vezo?

[RachMarie]

uggh you are right I am getting him confused with someone else bleah.

Will track that down.

I need to ask NS how to do the find thingy again I can't seem to make it work on this computer atm. So I can find who I meant.

[RachMarie]

And we are back

Umm I have to ask Auntie Why do you think I am town? You have given reasoning for some of your other reads but on me you just say town read or this is her town game?

Josh B
I believe if you ISO me you will see that I voted for my scumspect AND gave reasoning. Meanwhile I think calling it the largest wagon over the Viomi wagon for example is a bit of a stretch.

[RachMarie]

Same question to you Umbrage, why are you so strongly town reading me?

UN I had planned on ISOing you when the server issue came up will do so, I do not have a strong sense of you in the game and that bothers ms.

[RachMarie]

Sorry about that Josh B I meant Mozamis not you.

[RachMarie]

V/LA but I am here


Moz I voted him not based on his wagon, but based on my ISO reading of him, especially his reads which were rather bogus for someone who has been here from the start, I have more town reads than he does and I am still catching up

[RachMarie]

Excuse me Beast, but that was in response to someone else. And it is true, townies DO make mistakes. And not all townies agree on specific reads.

Have you by any chance something more productive like updated reads? Or do you still feel everyone is pretty much null?

[RachMarie]

Meanwhile we need to start consolidating wagons we need 11 to lynch and are 4 days out. Those of you not on top 3 wagons (Viomi, Displaced, Beast), or not voting (yeah I am looking at you UN), what is your feeling of those three wagons, do you see any of the three as scummy? If not why not?

[RachMarie]

mod have you prodded Viomi? I am not sure she is aware the site is back.

Mod- tags fixed

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uggh tag fail

[RachMarie]

Way too many nulls for a town read there Basically if you break it down he is leaving a lot of doors open for scum reading others later. Hence part of why I think he is scum.

How does he really feel about these players, he needs to take a stand on at least SOME of them. I doubt he is town I really do.

[RachMarie]

EXACTLY Pere you got it.

It does not feel natural And there is not enough town reads, he is keeping too many options available.

And umm it says on page 1 who I replaced

Some confusion is understandable, I have some myself, but the level he is showing, especially since he started the game out with everyone, is setting off all my warning bells.

[RachMarie]

But he is not the biggest wagon until very recently when a few people moved their votes. Viomi was.

[RachMarie]

5 votes when 11 are needed is not exactly a huge wagon though.

And has he done anything since then to take a real stand on some of those null reads?

[RachMarie]

Bulb and Fenix you do realize there are two scum teams? It is possible that Beast is on the other team. So in that case no his budz are not already flipped. So yeah that argument does not stand.

[RachMarie]

At this point until I get a flip from Team B I do not feel sure who is on which team other than the two who already flipped from Team A.



For some reason my computer went duhhh and posted before I was finished. That is the other part of the above post

[RachMarie]

More Beast votes, please and thank you

[RachMarie]

Nice list but why do you feel those people are town or scum?

Even a short description would be useful about now.

PEDIT

That too thanks for pointing it out Nero

[RachMarie]

MS

Who will you look at if we lynch Viomi and she turns out to be town? I think you are tunneling far too much and not looking at the bigger picture here.

[RachMarie]

Titus

I am not as convinced on Viomi being scum as say MS is, though I am town reading MS. I just think he is tunneling way too much.

As for case on Beast, Just look at his ISO, for the longest time his reads were very flexible, and when a lot of pressure was put on him he made up a list but still refuses to give cases of why he is town reading or scum reading so and so. Mostly he is trying to coast along.

My feeling on Viomi is mainly gut because I have seen her post like this in other games, mainly on her Chrimi account. And turn out to be town, this included the first ever game I played N 1206. I realize that I could be wrong and she could be scum, but I feel much more strongly that Beast is scum.

[RachMarie]

Unfortunately (or fortunately as the case may be lol) Almost all of N 1206 was lost to tigers when they had to roll back to November.

[RachMarie]

As Chrimi

N 1206 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=21446 Chrimi Town

Open 410 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22159 ( I was the mod) He was scum and later replaced by Gunny.
Pick Your Poison game http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=21865 he was Town in that one.
Open 409 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22156 Scum together


As Viomi
Micro 126 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=25631 (I was the mod) She was scum.

Open 502 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=28846 We both were town She was replaced and the town cop

Open 489 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27296 I was scum She was town

[RachMarie]

Pidgey what about scum reads?

I was wrong about Viomi I guess but I still am not convinced that Beast is town

VOTE: Beast

[RachMarie]

well duh

I just irked cause she fooled me and I usually can read her well bah

Still that does not rule out Beast from being scum on the other team.

[RachMarie]

Cabd

Why Titus?

[RachMarie]

I would like to hear from Auntie about this She did something similar in the last game we were in together. Though in that game I was half of the hydra Twin Flames (NS was the other half). She ended up being the last scum left on her side, and chose to help town.


What does leash mean?


Titus did you say that Beast is not scum?

[RachMarie]

I thought all the mods went to private topics, at least that seems to be the trend. I have a game that has ended to back this up. (I was in the dead thread)

[RachMarie]

As for why I asked Auntie

here is the game she was the last purple scum in where she helped out town.

We (NS and I as Twin Flames) were town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=29725

[RachMarie]

uggh Nero

[RachMarie]

Excuse me but non bastard theme games DO have redirectors or bus drivers. I have seen them in some games. As scum roles.

I think I was a scum bus driver a while back in a game, would take me a while though to track that down.

As for odd town roles, I have seen Prostitute (in Author Mafia) and I was Frizzle and a one shot mass commuter in the 90s cartoon game.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Titus

[RachMarie]

I would be interested in that as well Chandra.

[RachMarie]

Bulba has Fenix ever played with me before? That could explain the dissonance on your reads on me.

[RachMarie]

So you are saying you are a one side cop, Chandra? Do you cop red or black?

[RachMarie]

Yeah Auntie helped us loads in the Dr Who game.

Did you get the idea from that game, Titus?

[RachMarie]

So Titus is actually red scum and we have at least one of each left, right?

[RachMarie]

Ok keep in mind I am not much of a comic book reader, I understand red and black scum

Are you saying ms that you think Auntie is red scum or black scum and that Titus is same team or different?

[RachMarie]

Because I doubt if Auntie were the last black scum, she would not play like she did in Dr Who game, I have her as a town read.


PEDIT
Thank you finally someone answers lol

[RachMarie]

not a defeat yet unless you are now trying to say you are the last red scum, and I don't buy that.

Though of course I want all the scum defeated.

[RachMarie]

Not sure why xmen (a set of movies) is in a theme of comic books, but then when I was a kid the comics were pretty simple lol. The Norse god threw me off as well.

[RachMarie]

what? because I am not up to speed on the lingo of modern comics ?

[RachMarie]

Mala you dont trust me even after being cleared? Granted only from one team, but still by now you should be able to read me

BTW so we now have one red and one black left, right? The names of the teams confuse me.

Will go through Titus's ISO and see who is likely to be her red partner.

[RachMarie]

As for the last black member, I will reread the lynch vcs and the flipped black team players.

[RachMarie]

No, not ignoring, getting frustrated with our net issues We have had to restart the router like 8 times today, going to have NS talk to the cable co during the day hours after he wakes up.

[RachMarie]

nope all games

This net biz is really irksome

[RachMarie]

sorry all net issues the cable guy will be here on Tues which is why I went V/LA

[RachMarie]

back and reading up

[RachMarie]

zzk I really am not that hard to read.


However I like your vote I have had beast as a scum read for a long time but no one really seems to agree with it maybe now we can get him lynched.

VOTE: Beast

[RachMarie]

So you are saying dude cop who half cleared me was lying then Pere?

[RachMarie]

Could peeps use black and red I really get confused with the titles because I look at the op and see black and red and go with that for the scum hunting

[RachMarie]

wait a sec Josh are you saying you think I am red scum who did not know that Titus was my scum bud? And that I then voted for her in a hard bus? Clearly you are not familiar with my scum game.

And to what purpose would the red cop serve by lying about clearing me as red scum?

[RachMarie]

Black is MUVA, Red is DC. Chandra made it up.

I meant this post,

[RachMarie]

What were you saying that Chandra made up then? I thought that was in response to dude saying chandra had cleared me from being red scum Or do you think Chandra is not the red cop? I am confused?

moving along

mala could you expand on that? cause I still think beast is scum, just not sure if red or black.

[RachMarie]

Sigh I missed that ok back to the drawing board

[RachMarie]

So are you saying you do not believe he is the red cop?

[RachMarie]

I think he is probably telling the truth and the results make sense, so yeah I think Chandra is the red cop.

As for Displaced, I need to look at his ISO

[RachMarie]

I really thought beast was but after what I read from Cabd's link, I really can't see how he could be

[RachMarie]

moz and displaced have wagons on them Josh so which one of the two do you think is more scummy?

[RachMarie]

VOTE: moz

[RachMarie]

yeah no one could be that derpy as scum as Cabd pointed out sorry about the tunneling Beast but you DID seem scummy early on

[RachMarie]

not buying the claim especially considering how much power the town already has

vote stays on Moz

[RachMarie]

I got bad news on Tues

I am now diabetic and been busy doing research and dealing with the changes I have to make to hopefully avoid being put on meds in 3 months.

[RachMarie]

got good news

First of all, starting to feel a bit better in dealing with the diabetes and all the changes that were keeping me dizzy lightheaded and unable to focus and concentrate. It seems it takes a while for the body to get used doing without all those starchy based carbs.

Second of all, we were able to finally after a couple of days with tech support get my computer to go online with wireless on our ISP (power went out and since then was only able to connect to it via a wired connection on NS's desk and split online time with him.

[RachMarie]

so let me get this straight... I was cop cleared and yet you still want to think I am scum? Why Mala

[RachMarie]

ohh I thought you were earlier ok sorry my bad

Still working on catching up here and happy to have full internet again

[RachMarie]

Chandra Nalaar was Agent Venom, town cop Destroyed night 5

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

(expired on 2014-07-29 14:16:16)

till Day 6 Deadline

Note - No discussion on Modkill please - all will be explained after the game

he was a full cop not a factional cop

[RachMarie]

Therefore I trust his investigation results totally

[RachMarie]

I too am playing catchup Mala

Between the diabetes and changing diet and new issues with internet (I could not hook up to wireless after the power went out and we reset the cable router/modem until today).

So lets move on to finding scum.

[RachMarie]

Where is Auntie anyways, usually she is rather verbal?

[RachMarie]

What about AJ, Nexus? When can you prod her?

[RachMarie]

oops so sorry Jason still not all there yet

[RachMarie]

Wait how was it you did not see someone visit our cop who was killed?

[RachMarie]

Here, but not feeling well, will post tomorrow.

[RachMarie]

I happen to be ill and dealing with Probate right now. more later

[RachMarie]

So a ninja can't be tracked or watched?

Can a cop get a result on a ninja or is it like ascetic where only killing works on it?

[RachMarie]

I have played with ascetic roles and been a town ascetic before which is why I was wondering.

[RachMarie]

Could we PLEASE use red and black scum? So I do not have to keep going to page 1 and trying to translate into red and black? I do not understand the whole DC marvel thingy

Now Nero turned out to be red scum I believe, so how likely is it that we have another red scum? Really likely I would think that we still have a black scum

[RachMarie]

Are you claiming watcher or tracker Auntie?

You should probably full claim considering everything.

[RachMarie]

Sorry all I will reread through on claims n such thanks for the repeat Auntie.

BTW Slutbus, and now me is a dude called Quicksilver and seems to be related to Scarlett

whatever that means to you all who are into comics lol

[RachMarie]

it said in the pm. I worded it carefully as not not quote directly.

[RachMarie]

yes

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whoops I read that wrong

it told me who scarlett was, it did not say which player if one had it as a role, just who she is in the comic book world

[RachMarie]

So no I can't confirm that Auntie is Scarlett chicka

[RachMarie]

yeah with the two scum flips we should be able to get a lot of data with associations and VCA now.

[RachMarie]

yes that

[RachMarie]

put it on a separate line Auntie its hard for the mods to see otherwise and a few of the mods do not recognize the vote if it is not on a separate line.

[RachMarie]

Of the two I think Auntie is less likely to be scum, so

VOTE: Displaced

[RachMarie]

So basically immune to everything? That seems rather powerful, Auntie. I thought GF was only showing up as innocent to cops, but still seeable by trackers/watchers? And that ninjas were invisible to trackers/watchers but show up as guilty to cops? Generally, the only time I have seen someone who is fully investigation immune, was when they were 3rd party.


As for the one of the two, I was talking about it being close to deadline and the two was referring to the two largest wagons since with deadline so close, there was no point on being on any other wagon, duh.

[RachMarie]

Why did Cabd flip as a player name? I have played games with SG.

[RachMarie]

Ok just seems a bit odd...


Well dang it I want to know who killed Cabd

[RachMarie]

IDK how you peeps manage to post on your phones, I struggle with posting on Kindle and its a lot bigger screen with bigger keys. Though I can speak to text on the phone. Waiting to see if I can find a good voice to text program on Kindle. Or else when I get the money, I might get a real tablet with full functionality for when I have to put legs up for the swelling issue.

[RachMarie]

But you are probably not 70% blind with poor coordination ZZZK

[RachMarie]

Yeah I think pere is town so claim is probably true, I do not remember seeing pere do fake claim bs as town.

[RachMarie]

Have been busy we finally got the inheritance and have been dealing with bills and so on. Still getting used to the new tilting shelf and keyboard.

Has everyone had their say?

[RachMarie]

That sounds fair

[RachMarie]

As far as I know, neither Luca nor Vettrock who replaced in after Chandra died, was investigated. I may have missed something though, there is a lot of posts here and there were other PR claims that can observe stuffs besides the cop claim which was confirmed on Chandra.

[RachMarie]

I know ThAd but I was not here at the beginning.

[RachMarie]

Vezo there is something that is bothering me here, you seem to be saying that it is all VT now. You have no way of knowing that for sure as town and yeah that worries me that you are that adamant that there are no PRs left. Not that I want any PRs to come out of the woodwork and I do not see a need yet for mass claiming, however why are you so positive that its an all VT game now?

Can you see why that bothers me?

[RachMarie]

Pere is ok

I had my concerns about him early on, but then I really looked at him closer, and realized I was letting another game (which of course has since ended), bias me in this game. Normally that would not happen as much, but one of the reasons I cut down on games and have been V/LA a lot is the whole diabetes thingy and the mess with probate and worrying about bills getting paid has really messed with my head a LOT.

I would be more concerned with you if you did not have doubts about me Auntie, especially with me not playing my best. But rest assured that I am just as much town as Chandra was. And I stand by his results and believe them, the fake clamming as only one side bothered me at first, but he did finally claim FULL cop, and he flipped FULL cop. So yes I will follow in his footsteps.

I go back and forth though on you I will admit. I just find having a tracker who cant track due to some ninja dude seems a bit over the top, and it seems to me with the amount of cop power that a ninja makes less sense than a GF. Also a tracker seems to be a bit overkill with the amount of cop power left.

[RachMarie]

err cop power in this game sorry about the typo there

[RachMarie]

how do you explain the balance of having a tracker with so much cop muscle?

Especially with it being multiball?

[RachMarie]

That is really my biggest reason for being suspicious of you Auntie. You seem rather towny with the effort and the amount of help you have given us in the game, but I just have trouble wrapping around the possibility of yet 2 more scum left with all the flips we have had, and the idea of some super ninja and GF role in one player just seems too over the top.

[RachMarie]

meh I think we will get more info, anyways we are heading that direction since we cant get a majority vote

VOTE: No Lynch

[RachMarie]

Vez how are you so sure I am not mislynch fodder? There is enough doubt out there and I get mislynched a LOT in games.

Though of course I was cop cleared, but still people are suspicious of me. Understandably so with so much cop power I think there is likely a GF.

Still go back and forth on Auntie. Sigh I could see a case for her both being town and scum.

[RachMarie]

If we get enough votes that we can hammer I will switch because I do prefer a lynch over no lynch but I do not see that happening we have people who want lynch you, people who want to lynch her, and people who want to lynch vez we are awfully scattered for so close to the deadline.

[RachMarie]

Sorry all I should have investigated AJ instead of Pere, just say that he was scum in another game (that is over of course and that was muddying my reading of him in this game). Pere you are in too many of my games HUGS still ♥ you dude.

Part of my issue was the RL stuffs going on I ended up dropping out of all newbie games because of it. I did not expect getting rid of almost all grains and potatoes would cause such a mental and physical drain on me for so long. However it is worth it because now I am getting a handle on the diabetes.

Finally got my inheritance and the banking stuff all sorted though eek dental work costs a FORTUNE.

I was investigating AJ the night I got killed though. I am REALLY surprised I ended up dead considering how inactive I was and the fact I was not pushing super hard on her.

[RachMarie]

Sigh I knew it was a risk but I did not want them voting Pere

I was hoping to obfuscate a bit as well and make it seem more like I just reread his ISO and that was why.

I was trying to not seem TOO gung ho on you Auntie because I was becoming more sure you were scum and I needed to investigate you, however the whole super duper all in one ninja GF was not ringing true for me cause I knew we had a LOT of cop power.


We won in the end though. Even if I did make mistakes.