Mafia with the Quickness 2 GAME OVER!

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VOTE: SpeedySaki

http://imustaccelerate.tumblr.com/

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policy lynching is dumb

UNVOTE:
VOTE: sir arthur dayne

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@skrew i was referring to rvs

not the other 4 pages i haven't been here for so. ok ok ok

signing posts with

[marquis]

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In case it's not obvious:
@all: Any other encryptors should claim asap. As in immediately.

i feel like i should agree with this but i really really don't want to

[marquis]

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oh heads up Nacho probably won't be around this day phase at all, so it's just me all on my own.

how do i tell when nacho posts because in we the purple there was a long space of time that i forgot you guys were a hydra

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pedit skrew why is every post of yours a question? did you know it really annoys me? and did you know i was referring to sad actually being serious about the policy lynches? so why are you dismissing it as me just making an rvs vote? because wasn't it valid as an rvs-era but not rvs-vote response vote? and did you know i'm annoying myself now too?

pedit2 seriously skrew stop with the whole 100 questions thing this is why we have 5 (6 by the time this finally gets posted??) pages already

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@SAD, I already said I am not making that assumption but I think scum day talk
benefits scum more than town day talk benefits town.

depends on players but i would rather have town daytalk than not

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that was still me

[marquis]

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i'm only lynching desp if i think he's scum

i'm only lynching perpet if i think he's/they're scum

i'm probably going to continue to want to lynch sad if they don't stop trolling about an actual claim that i can't tell if he's joking about in context

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pedit good job skrew keep up the good work of ???-less-ness

pedit2 well i know i'm probably being a hypocrite since i can spampost really violently too but i'm just a bit done with games that explode in pagecount so much that they're unreadable

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@SAD, I already said I am not making that assumption but I think scum day talk
benefits scum more than town day talk benefits town.

depends on players but i would rather have town daytalk than not

let's just stop making assumptions actually

somebody explain to me why there is more than one encryptor. a valid reason

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ignore the quote it magically appeared

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pedit @ sad, scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor -> juls wants to lynch the encryptor -> juls is scum ? i....... don't agree??

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N

that is n. secret third head imo

yeah but i know who you really mean thanks i guess

pedit skrew i will respond in new post

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ignore the quote it magically appeared

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pedit @ sad, scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor -> juls wants to lynch the encryptor -> juls is scum ? i....... don't agree??

But apparently everyone is agreeing that there are multiple encrpytors based on something Desp's role PM might maybe be implying!

i've never seen a game with more than one encryptor.

yes i know "i've never seen a game with" =/= "this isn't a game with" but when you take into account the fact that this is a GOTTA GO FAST GO GO GO quick game as well, i don't think the mod would do something that different from normal in addition to the stress caused by short deadlines. for the most part i think this is a mostly normal setup game

i'm not saying to lynch desp, because i think daytalk can benefit town as much as scum and i don't think i've ever really seen scum use daytalk to win/take advantage of a game. but what i mean is that i think lynching desp really would eliminate daytalk and the whole "there is more than one encryptor" idea is really far-fetched

pedit i'm usually wary of not_mafia but i like his post and opinion of daytalk. i don't like his vote on skrew though, he should know by now that annoying play more often than not is town

pedit2 please don't say retarded in that sense please

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also i somehow forgot to add this but

in mean girls mafia vezok was a cop and he said his role pm implied there were no millers in the setup, because someone else claimed miller. and he was wrong because they actually were a miller (technically they were a bulletproof miller which the claim completely made the bulletproof part of pointless but w/e w/e).

basically i think when you try to get setup information from a single role pm's wording it's more often than not wrong or at the very least simply unreliable so just because the mod picks a quirky wording doesn't mean really anything

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pedit so that's a hydra i've never seen yay wow amaze wow

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ignore the quote it magically appeared

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pedit @ sad, scum wouldn't want to lynch the encryptor -> juls wants to lynch the encryptor -> juls is scum ? i....... don't agree??

But apparently everyone is agreeing that there are multiple encrpytors based on something Desp's role PM might maybe be implying!

i've never seen a game with more than one encryptor.

yes i know "i've never seen a game with" =/= "this isn't a game with" but when you take into account the fact that this is a GOTTA GO FAST GO GO GO quick game as well, i don't think the mod would do something that different from normal in addition to the stress caused by short deadlines. for the most part i think this is a mostly normal setup game

i'm not saying to lynch desp, because i think daytalk can benefit town as much as scum and i don't think i've ever really seen scum use daytalk to win/take advantage of a game. but what i mean is that i think lynching desp really would eliminate daytalk and the whole "there is more than one encryptor" idea is really far-fetched

pedit i'm usually wary of not_mafia but i like his post and opinion of daytalk. i don't like his vote on skrew though, he should know by now that annoying play more often than not is town

pedit2 please don't say retarded in that sense please

wrt the bold: how shld I use it then? retarded means "stunted growth" and I think desp's vote is retarded at this point and time cos enough people will see him as town for what he is doing. the only 1s who would jump all over it is scum and even they don't seem to be that stupid cos only desp is voting for desp.

if you think i shld only use it in the context of an insult that we will have words.

i thought you meant to use it in the context of an insult yourself. this is mostly a personal issue because irl i hear so many people saying it that way and trying to bs their way out with "oh i meant it in a slowwwwww sense you know totally not an insult!!" your post is one of those i don't really want to have to analyze for that though since i trust you enough as a person to not be one of those insult-then-say-it-was-the-other-meaning assholes

i do want to drop the topic though so

~ [marquis] ~

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(before I leave Marquis is town)

i'm not unvoting

[marquis]

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beast if you unvote you had better have a good scumread to put it back on

[marquis]

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that's pie!

pie please obvtown to me you are off to a good start

<3 ilu bby

[marquis]

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@Feu et Vol It's not that I find him annoying (I don't), it's a noise to signal thing

i know that's what you meant. i'm fully aware i'm conflating "annoying" with "noisy" but in games like this it's totally acceptable right? thanks for attempting to clarify but you actually didn't clarify anything else because like i said you should know by now that players that post a lot of noncontent nowadays especially to the excessively annoying extent that skrew is are often town.

what do you mean by signal also

[marquis]

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hi Marquis <3

what's your read on Juls?

scum-but-i'm-wary-because-it-could-be-too-scummy-to-be-scum

[marquis]

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i don't know what to do

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we are a town neighborizer

i don't know what to do

[marquis of fucking course]

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i'm playing skype mafia right now so just skimming and blah

but if you don't think i can post setup analysis maybe you should look at...... i don't know............ the vast majority of my towngames. particularly knight errant #1 and gif's (iirc) ace attorney game. the fact that i post in lowercase and am perceived as a "derp" so often doesn't mean i'm incapable of thinking about the setup. it's mildly insulting, so ~~~~~bye~Black Goo (Town; anyone who targets it with an action becomes Cult)

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wrong c+p

[marquis]

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also we're going to neighborize whoever we want to not just you because you said so although thank you for asking nicely maybe??

[marquis]

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So, I'm going to lose interest in this game real fast if you guys keep chatting about games other than this one. I'm not in the cool kids club which makes for a really boring read.

hey can we go back to lynching this please tia

You realize they claimed neighborizer right? Even if they are scum we can wait for them to make a neighborhood and add to the discussion of the game. There is no way they would waste it on their scum buddies so there would be a place for town people to discuss not only at night but for the time being during the day as well. I see no benefit what so ever from lynching Juls at this point.

-beastcharizard

As to not be confused with the SlowSaki hydra.

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I just said even if they are scum we can benefit from it. They can't lie about neighborizing someone they didn't say they neighborized because the other people in the neighborhood would know. If they claim to neighborize someone and they aren't in the neighborhood then that would be another red flag.

Town or Scum their role can be an advantage to us. If scum have a roleblock and use it on them that would just free up a potentially greater PR getting to use their power. Town has no reason to roleblock them since a neighborhood is 100% in towns best interest regardless of who is in it.

They can be used to catch scum, give you a better feel for players, get other's opinions on the game state during the night and what has transpired. I fail to see a down side to a neighborhood and with that the upside of lynching Juls.

I don't care what their alignment is at this point either unless you think they are a solo role.(if you do what leads you to believe there is a solo role in the game) If they are mafia they have to have at least 1 teammate so it isn't like lynching them right now is going to stop a kill.

Also, why do you want them lynched anyway?

-Beast

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beast and i have been talking in our neighborhood and using it as our hydra qt today.

i wanted to make this comment postgame but it's already postclaim so anyway, i think the fact that we're a hydra and we rolled this role is a lot more beneficial since when it comes to brainstorming two heads are better than one. i'm not sure if beast said this here or in the neighborhood or if someone else entirely said it here but i think we plan to neighborize a hydra to maximize how many people we can get talking in there

-marquis, fine @ beast

pedit pie what are you talking about

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also since juls claimed i've been reconsidering the there-is-only-one-encryptor idea since clearly there are duplicate powers in this game and they probably all revolve around talking power (which makes sense for a fast/quickness game). i really don't want to think about setup spec-ing role power alignments right now though

-marquis

pedit @ ?, where you said i claimed town neighborizer, like no shit we all know that or what specifically were you pointing out about that

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also in the same vein i'm not as excited as my other head apparently is about the juls-is-town declaration

-marquis

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wait never mind he just said don't lynch it at all. which i'm also not sure if i agree with

-marquis

pedit pie is part of sugoku with f-16 iirc

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i'm going to just

pre-emptively apologize to everyone

because i'm still getting used to being in a hydra with beast

because how we keep talking to each other in the neighborhood chat with nobody else in there keeps making me forget we share the same slot as well as the same role and we're not just two separate players who happened to pull masons together

-marquis

pedit @ sugoku [pie], desp thought there were multiple encryptors because of how his role pm was worded and suddenly everyone believed it and suddenly after we said "no that's dumb" everyone seemed to go "oh ok never mind" and now i'm thinking i might be wrong because what does multiple neighborizers imply about the possibility of multiple encryptors like doubling up the roles?

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also i am californian not french canadian

you asked that earlier iirc

also it is still pronounced mar-kee

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In post 198, Juls wrote:
Taking one for the team. Good on you.

i've been simultaneously wanting to policy-scumread juls as well as not get into a horrible 1v1 "one of us has to be lynched and if the first one flips town lynch the other!!!!!"

but like

it sounds in that post like juls is confirming desp as town?? or it feels like a scumslip of some sort

forgive me for i have sinned yet again

-marquis

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like i kind of want to lynch juls because i've never seen two town neighborizers or two town encryptors but then again i don't want to be chain lynched if the double role thing is true and she's town too

-marquis

pedit yeah juls is probably scum neighborizer

UNVOTE:
VOTE: juls

fite me irl beast

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100% scum. i rest her case.

-marquis

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Juls, I know like 6 out of the 20 something people. I wouldn't worry about not knowing people.

We only need 1 town person in their neighborhood to make it a town neighborhood imo. That town person would be able to better read their neighbor at that point to figure out their alignment. It is a less impressive inspect.

Marquis: Give me your address and lets go. They could be so useful if we just give them 2 nights! There is no way any scum person would use both shots on their scum partners. NO WAY!

-Beast

p-edit: A signed invitation.

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First, please post on your hydra.

Second, this post is very scummy. I hate words like "it feels like" and the extra triple question marks.

to actually respond

it's this post that solidifies my scumread on juls. she's going for the easiest and flimsiest scumread reason. the way i word things is how i word things. i put extra triple question marks because that's how i play. you're trying to call things out as scummy that aren't at all and you're blatantly forcing yourself to scumread us because that's what you feel town would probably do and that's what i tried to restrain myself from doing.

p.s. i quoted it already on my hydra before you posted. stop trying to...... i don't even know, diminish the value of my post by saying it's out of hydra?? i can't even follow what angle you're going for with that

p.p.s. our names are already in our sig. read it imo

-marquis

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mastin vote juls

-marquis

pedit wonderful now vote the scum

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how exactly is it a bad idea? it feels like you're just saying that on principle because i really don't see a downside to it.

-marquis

pedit fuck you i'm not even going to pretend to tolerate that kind of stuff today

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i'm really too lazy this morning to pull out and elaborate on the whole "why did we claim then" defense as well as reminding people that you're scum

but let's just pretend like i did

-marquis

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last post was @ 505

-marquis

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god i fucking hate the "if they flip town you can go ahead and lynch me" line but do you know how many times i've thought about using it referring to juls today. and then i get cold feet and don't want to risk getting pulled into a mislynch if juls is town and the setup has double

-marquis

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my last few posts have not been as lighthearted and happyvibing as my posts usually are

sorry i'm not a morning person

-marquis

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qt's aren't available during the day

lol what

thanks for calling it out but what

-marquis

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qt's aren't available during the day so how does that make sense/how is it even relevant?

Is this a slip?

You said you enable daytalk and now you say QT's aren't available during the day. Which is it?

Interesting catch... I would like to know this too

how scum is this on a scale from 10 to 10

10 for you jason t

you go jason t

-marquis

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ow scum is this on a scale from 10 to 10

if neighborhood QT's aren't available during the day, someone needs to speak up, like now

we already addressed this desp already addressed this you said "oh" and i was talking about jason not you i don't understand how you can still be confused

-marquis

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why do i get the feeling that everyone has forgotten that this is a speed game and is willing to dance around the lynch for 3 more days and let scum drive a mislynch wagon within the last 10 minutes like in dark age of the law

-marquis

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i need to know if desp is ok with me answering first

-marquis

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never mind scum obviously knows already/has fakeclaims and if they didn't i just gave it away.

it's blue. sorry to disappoint you, but i actually looked before answering so no mistakes you can push on endlessly

is yours red? because i'm pretty sure it's red

-marquis

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I'm not satisfied with yours.

@mod would scum have access to setup information not revealed on the first page / things other than their own role pms?

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-marquis

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ugh stupid question

@mod never mind

-marquis

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juls might be more town than just the slim possibility i've been worrying about in case of a chainlynch but i still don't see the majority of her actions as something town would want to do / think of doing.

-marquis

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People always have a problem when someone brings up multi-ball without any sort of flip. I have seen it be pushed as a scum tell in large games and I even use it to push scum in games as well. It might not be the strongest thing to use but it is still something.

I don't think both Oversoul and Not_Mafia are scum. I think it would have to be one or the other. Oversoul's switch over to NM made me cringe though. It just didn't feel right at all but it didn't feel like a buss vote either which is why I say one or the other rather than both.

Also, totally ok with Lynching Slow Saki since they aren't doing anything and while they say nothing interesting is happening I strongly disagree. There is plenty for them to comment on especially if it is the MS head who will comment on anything.

-Beast

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i'm lost and it's actually my fault

can we just lynch someone

-marquis

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However, when one head of a hydra, comes into thread, changes a read and when asked about that read says that the other read was from his/her partner so it is ok to change it, then that is using hydra dissonance as an excuse to change reads back/forth.

oh my god no. it's not an excuse, it's a matter of "these are two people and unless we somehow find a way to meld their minds together of course you're going to get dissonance". personally i usually prefer "hydra dissonance" to be settled in thread because it's so much easier to determine that way what each head thinks. in dark age of the law, notscience and i as doduo hydra had such differing reads and while it might have caused a few extra posts in vote switches back and forth i feel we were so much obvtownier for it. might not be the exact case for helium but in general i don't think scum hydrae like bothering to fake hydra dissonance as it's essentially bussing/discrediting....... yourself.

anyway the fact that you seem so intent on this point of attack on helium really annoys me and it's a cheap fake "scumtell". still feeling juls scum. probably jason scum too?? later i want to lynch juls now.

-marquis

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qt's aren't available during the day so how does that make sense/how is it even relevant?

Is this a slip?

You said you enable daytalk and now you say QT's aren't available during the day. Which is it?

Interesting catch... I would like to know this too

how scum is this on a scale from 10 to 10

How much do you think it is on a scale of 1-10?

And why no vote if you think its scummy?

It seems you're asking permission of others before placing a vote, and if no one bites you won't follow up on it.

well ofc i'm not going to follow up on it when juls is a perfectly good wagon already

-marquis

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can we stop rolefishing seriously let people crumb in peace too many claims already too confusing

-marquis

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nvm i rescind my view in the previous post because reasons

-marquis

pedit

@mod hypothetically if we were neighborizers would our neighborhoods stay open after neighborizing someone else and the death of the neighborizers

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Town:
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you are hereby obligated to sheep me

-marquis

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i still want the question answered for me.

not that i don't trust you

but because i shouldn't trust you

-marquis

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in regards to the current state of wagons i don't remember feeling not mafia scum with his earlier posts (although tbf i usually never feel not mafia scum). not a priority today because mislynching him would be shitty. maybe scum lynches are better????? yeah maybe.

-marquis

pedit juls i really don't care. because you know what i'm seeing with the whole "mollie made a boo-boo" incident??? they had to use hydra dissonance as a defense because you were the one to use it as an attack.

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this argument is getting shittier and shittier and i don't want to be a part of it anymore

antihelium just vote juls please. it's so obvscum

-marquis

pedit .................that's why i asked it in a hypothetical viewpoint

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juls it's a trick question

why??

because i won't need an excuse to lynch scum!!!!!!!!!! ty ty

-marquis

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juls stop with that question it's legitimately annoying me right now

-marquis

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Why does someone need an excuse to have mislynched someone?

what the fuck

-marquis

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Why does someone need an excuse to have mislynched someone?

They need to explain why I am so "obvious scum" when I am not.

You admitted yourself that you have been scummy so when you get lynched it is your fault and noone elses. This "excuse" question is beyond silly. That is like me asking what is your excuse if you are town for being so scummy? 1. It is a dumb question and 2. a dumb question that shouldn't even be asked.

I do like my idea of keeping you around to make the mini-neighborhood. Glad to know you are trying to pretend it was your idea.

-Beast

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Where was it your idea?

Try 285 and 290. That prompted someone else to say we would have to keep you alive for 2 days in order for my idea to be of use.

It isn't town to replace out during the night while choosing who you want to neighborize. If you truely plan to replace out let your replacement choose who they want to target since it would be their role at that time and not yours. You would be hindering your replacement for no reason what so ever.

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first off you're right i'm annoyed at what should be a basic question. but i have a right to be annoyed when whenever i began what was supposed to be a quick response at the question i wanted to yell at her because the wording of the question is a kind of "have you stopped beating your wife" question. i read it to respond to it, part of me responds to the part calling herself town with "oh yeah you're town huh" and then i have to go remind myself "no -she's- the one who said that it's not something you're supposed to take for granted in your answer", and it's a completely unfair damned-if-you-do/don't question that i always hate seeing. this is the first time it's been directed at me though which probably amplifies my hatred of it.

secondly i've been getting some criticism since dark age of the law for the way i play hydrae so this isn't really something new to me.

and i've never really used a hydra qt before but since the mod already had the neighborhood qt created for us i figured it would be beneficial to the game for us to try to turn it into that after the noise my doduo hydra made back in the day kept getting us scumread. i'm not sure if beast has ever hydra'd before, but i think he's doing the best he can to listen to my ideas which tbh is more than i can say for myself. when i hydra'd with notscience as doduo, we clashed so much in terms of reads. granted that game i was pretty spot on as opposed to his nacho-is-100%-town-even-though-he's-about-to-flip-mafia (which i should probably stop bringing up but i guess i'm just too proud of my reads that game, though there isn't much to be proud of when nobody not even your hydra partner listens to your reads until process of elimination confirms most of them lategame. whatever. that game was really good for my confidence levels)

not sure how big of a wall rambling paragraph that just turned out to be lol oops but basically the gist of what i'm saying is: i am finally trying to make the effort to combine my reads and gameplan with my hydra partner, but we still see differently on things like whether juls should be today's lynch or not. at the very least we are pretty sure right now who we are going to neighborize tonight given we don't suddenly lynch them (or us don't even try it) which is more than i can say for whatever "agreements" notsci and i made when we kept trying to override each other's power role decisions in the repeatedly aforementioned game.

that was also probably too much. if you can't read it whatever. i was just about to put yet another "basically what i'm saying is this" line but i'd probably keep doing the same thing over and over again.

i'm not going to stop signing my posts though, because as much as some players might want a hydra to at least look like one person it's just not going to happen. sorry not sorry, there you go.

-marquis

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qt's aren't available during the day so how does that make sense/how is it even relevant?

Is this a slip?

You said you enable daytalk and now you say QT's aren't available during the day. Which is it?

Interesting catch... I would like to know this too

how scum is this on a scale from 10 to 10

I am STILL interested in this... and Marq has gone silent..... this seemed almost like asking permission to vote me, but only if others thought it was scummy.

Why not just give your own opinions on how scummy it was? This seemed more like an opportunistic testing of the waters for something to latch onto than anything else. VERY tempted to vote on this, and the lack of activity on the slot.

The scale was 10 to 10 meaning it was a 10. That translates to they thought your post was super scummy. It is pretty straight forward. The next post they even say it is a 10. You must have missed that or something. Now get off the topic since YOU are the one who wanted the scale to be 1-10 not Marquis.

Just got to the above post btw.

-Beast

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dl/ut/pl?

My guess is deadline/utility/policy lynches but that is just a stab at the dark.

I would be ok with moving to the N_M wagon but my partner probably disagrees with that switch. Marquis said they always town read NM and I always scum read them so I guess that collectively makes them a Null read.

@Shos:

That is Metal Sonic being the troll Metal Sonic was meant to be. Just ignore them for now and we can get back to them later if they are still being useless in a day or two.

-Beast

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Hoopla, how many games do you have to play with a person until you feel you are familiar with them enough to use meta? Would you say you could Meta me?

-Beast

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@Helium:

What does pl/dl/ut mean? You probably missed it when I asked the first time you said it.

-Beast

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@Helium:

What does pl/dl/ut mean? You probably missed it when I asked the first time you said it.

-Beast

didn't you say that it was policy lynch, deadline lynch, utility lynch?

I didn't respond cos I thought you got the abbreviates.

That is what I thought it meant but I wanted clarification because if it wasn't that it made no sense. There aren't players on the list with all those initials. It was just confusing me a bit.

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welp shos sheeped us onto not_mafia

bus.jpg?

How do you know they didn't sheep one of the other 4 people that were on the wagon at that point?

@Shos:

Who did you sheep?

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blah.

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blah i'm in a bad mood right now.

first things first i'm the realest.

first things first for real: someone admitting to active lurking is not, believe it or not, an indicator of the scummiest scum scummer scumming alive scummily. scum it is not. it may be scum, but using that as the sole or main point of a case against someone is even scummier because it's the easiest line you can build a case on someone off of. my personal experience involves a lot of games in which i was town and active lurked because i didn't want to ruin people's early townreads on me (granted that's what caused a lot of readshifts against me but i'm learning not to do that now i guess). in one game i even admitted to it like metal/saki did, knowing i would have people jumping on me for the comment, but i said it anyway because it's the truth.

you can see lurking as a scumtell if you want. in scenarios like this one i don't think it means anything, and while i'm scumreading metal/saki like shos says he is i don't have shitty reasons (including trolling because metal sonic trolling is null).

(mine come more from them active lurking

in conjunction with

them saying that someone who targetted them would regret it.)

responding to posts i saw this morning and probably a lot of pages earlier already about "catch up mode"- seriously shut up if you think we can all keep up with a game that gets so many pages this quickly. get off your high horse and shut up to whoever it is that's saying things along the lines of "if you can't deal with us talking a lot you're probably scum". or something like that, i don't know. the general feeling i'm getting from some players is "i can shout a lot at whoever i want and if you dare try to tell me to slow down you're scum/we should lynch you/you're scum". i don't like. that.

(i'm such a fucking hypocrite, ikr.)

sure i was able to keep up in the beginning but i'm burning out so quickly now it's ridiculous.

saying it's only a select one or two players who can't keep up with the game in real time and have a lot of pages left to read, while everyone else is doing just fine?? step out from behind your walls, and whiling i'm typing this up i'm surprised to find that i don't just mean it figuratively. (less walls please.) (and this post is probably shaping up to be a wall but the kind of wall that i'm referring to in particular are

quote walls and 1v1 walls that nobody else will probably bother to read

)

i've also given beast permission to move our vote as he wishes, since i just don't really care right now. not that he needed that permission, but you know what i mean. if anyone wants to lynch scum before deadline, you know where to find me (you actually don't, but whatever it sounds like a cool finish).

bye.

-marquis

pedit jfc like a billion posts. lynch out of juls/metalsaki/jason today if anyone wants to actually listen to me

pedit2 and even more during the pedit

pedit3 oh god why am i complaining i signed up for this but i don't even know maybe it's just today

[Feu et Vol]

also if anyone tries to say my feelings toward this game / my

reads

, even, are invalidated by me admitting to being in a bad mood today, it would be more productive if you selfvoted instead

-marquis

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yeah, except mollie never did leave it "unexplained" or leave you "unpushed" as she was trying to make you the forefront of her conversations with other people.

great shoehorning, though

words words words
I should probably take a step back

Please do. You are posting too much and saying too little. So maybe hold your thoughts for like 5 posts and make 1 moderate length post instead of 5 super short useless posts.

-Beast

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pedit jfc like a billion posts. lynch out of juls/metalsaki/jason today if anyone wants to actually listen to me

you have a scumread on SS?

as of that post, yes.

as of now, no.

shos is scummier. beast will move our vote from now on though because i don't trust my temper at the moment.

-marquis

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such feu very vol

-marquis

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I will move the vote when I return from work.

I would much prefer a NM lynch though. Their reads list feels like a last ditch effort to look town after their VT claim.

-Beast

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I really wish we could just lynch Not_Mafia.

@Shos:

Did you crumb anywhere?

I know I said I would change my vote but things changed while I was away.

-Beast

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Wait there was a mason in that game but it didn't effect the day masons cause they were already DAY MASONS.

If you actually cared, you'd just fucking ask the mod

@mod
Hypothetically, would an encryptor, regardless of alignment, make daytalk available for all private communication?

Have we not already gone over this like 5 times? I am pretty sure Marquis asked a question like this in the thread that the mod answered.

-Beast

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We have fourteen hours so if someone hammers before I get back to my computer I will be upset at you

This is me saying I am for the shos lynch even though I believe the claim, lynch it anyway

I think shos should not shoot skrew or Sami they are both town shos should shoot jason like he ducking said he could and kind of wanted to

Beast quote this

-Marquis

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hopefully not a wall but lots of thoughts coming up

please be prepared to read them

-marquis

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so this was supposed to be my first attempt at a longer than usual quote strip post but then i remembered i hate reading those so i'll just make a readslist actually

town

feu - hi
desp - we agree on everything
speedy saki - gut plus town meta
skrew - antagonistic
ns - gut town

town claim

shos - for the sake of this today i am assuming he's vengeful townie. i think he's vengeful but no point in not talking about the shot if he's vengeful scum. policy townread here until flip

scum

oversoul - had to do with his reaction to skrew claim like a slip/immediate belief thing
juls - i don't even know the specific reasons anymore i am just feeling her scum
jason - he is redirecting the vengeshot to obvtown, and read his iso he just keeps

not as much reasoning or slots covered as i was planning on but something came up irl ugh gtg bbl

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back

You don't think I'd be so as scum?

no i don't because tammy ugh nvm bbl again

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shos if you're still thinking of shooting skrew here's a hint: don't

-marquis

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if shos graciously spares me, please don't try to neighborize me

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I like^

i like you too <3

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"but how do you know that scum have daytalk, if you're not SCUM!?????!??"

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Slice of Life

thank you for saying that name there was a post i wanted to bring up for some reason that i can't remember atm

-marquis

ffs

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Vote: Shos

Shoot well. Or die hard. Depending on your alignment.

yeah this. this sounds fake. (it's probably fake.) (i have too many townreads already.)

-marquis

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why don't i have a townread on you again?

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gut and the same things i was thinking back in an earlier post of mine at n_m. a different kind of gut than the other-ss read though.

-marquis

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160/195

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that didn't work but you know what i mean

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lynch jason now now now.

VOTE: jason

-marquis

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"but how do you know that scum have daytalk, if you're not SCUM!?????!??"

the encryptor claims hint towards that

sarcasm

quote brackets

-marquis

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Haha well yeah who the fuck knows who hes gonna shoot if hes actually town looks like missing a few screws but idc as long as its npt one

us

. agree outing masons this early would suck hard

anyway im out cant stay awake longer for the fli

^ looks like a softclaim of masons

and sad just softclaimed masons that is why i think there are masons in the game.

like this is pretty obv why the fuck are you trying to misrep me metal.

you would probs be the best shot given your tendency to absolutely fuck games over and I won't cry if he does. I do think you are town but I have told you I do not want to play with you unless we are hydraing and I can reign you in.

Why the hell would you point out openly a softclaim that some may have not caught? this post only served to highlight the claim and outting another role.

Speedy, or Helium need to be gone today... I am more leaning to Speedy due to complete uselessness in this game with nothing but fluff postings and acting like a hyper little girl not caring about finding scum.

VOTE: Speedy S

this is the worst vote i have seen this game.

-marquis

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nah jason, speedy saki is town. try again

-marquis

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So, Jason page 66 was bad but I think his defenses since have looked very town. My reads are flip-flopping a lot today . I like Hoopla so far and I was leery of her yesterday. I also am not a fan of Sleepy and sugoku today. Because from a town POV, his responses have been sufficient but they keep pushing and his points about SleepyKrew hand-waving that Jason is scum but not providing a case are good points. I should go ahead and out that I neighborized sugoku and now I am thinking that may have been a bad choice. Not sure how to proceed for future neighbors now.

Also, I can see Slandaar and Sugoku as partners based on the post where sugoku doesn't want to split the wagons.

Also, Hoopla is likely confirmed town because she got not_mafia out of the noose with her statistics.

1. Why was it a bad choice to neighborize Sugoku?

2. Scum protect town people all the time.

-Beast

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If you want Jason lynched tomorrow doesn't that mean you think they are also scum? Based on the kills we only know of one scum team so it would be a likely conclusion that they are on the same team. So why Slandaar over Jason? Also, you said Sleepy is also scum so at this point you should believe the scum team consists of at least Slandaar/Sleepy/Jason. Is that your conclusion at this point?


Also, ya'll are stuck with me for a couple days.

-Beast

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I don't really have much to say. I wish my other head would come back.

I am starting to not like Juls. Their vote on NS is just really bad. I also agree on the Jason read Marquis has now. Saki is town town town.

-Beast

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VOTE: jason

die

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anything about day 2 is beast's domain because i'm not reading the rest of that shit

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VOTE: slice of life

f16 hydra and NS are good votes too, but let's start here

yes no and no

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maybe no to helium too? maybe? still want to lynch juls because day 1

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i still dont like oversoul

pedit ns hi i am thinking of things and memories and not caring please help

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wait this works

UNVOTE:
VOTE: slice of life

you can die too

pedit they can die too

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VOTE: jason

it's scum playing dumb. i don't get at all how you can still push a speedy saki angle as town in light of the flip, almost like you're trying to distance yourself from the the nightkill or something.

i still want to hold onto my day 1 skrew townread because of how outspoken he was then, but now he's barely making an impression and it's annoying me because he already made a claim. to answer the question in the neighborhood, no i don't think there are too many prs because i still think there's a good chance juls is a scum neighborizer, and perpetual nonsense is saying things about desp that are making me paranoid about that claim too. i don't like how skrew is refusing to say when he's commuted though so it's pretty much like a lot of the claims are bothering me now.

tl;dr juls is probably still scum but nobody else thinks so anymore which is also stupid. stop looking for excuses to try and lynch us, because it's not like saki "claiming" meant anything even if sugoi is trying to summarize it like we didn't know anything. i figured it out in the middle of day 1 because they were being so blatant about it and i made beast neighborize them as a result. trying to pass off the nightkill as "only feu knew about the masons in time to kill one" is incredibly opportunistic and at the moment i'm pretty sure scum are pretending this is all a big surprise because there's no way nobody other than us noticed the pattern of "he's town trust me" between those slots day 1 (for example, i was kind of ticked about jason and sad's mason conversation at the end of the day and i'm thinking with the whole mason attitude now it could have been doublescum theater at the time)

out for donuts. bye

-marquis

pedit i've said this before in the neighborhood f16, and you should have been reading it: a lot of conversations, including some of the ones you're trying to have with us in there, don't need to be hidden from the rest of the town. an exception for example would be discussing the masons before they outed. so please tell me why you're trying to annoy me and do that anyway?????

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So SS outs in the neighborhood that he is masons with NS. nobody Special dies and you don't even think to suspect Feu?


Guys, I am handing you two scum on a platter here!

We neighborized SS night 1.

Still reading up.

-Beast/Lizard Thing

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im really sleepy right now so i'll answer questions or read or whatever later but i still think skrew is town from day 1 and i don't get why people are so hissy at the commuter claim but like oh ok there's two town neighborizers and just what level of weird is this setup that wasn't rhetorical i don't know what makes more sense now and i still agree with desp mostly but i keep thinking about him and perpet's claims early day 1 and i'm getting paranoid because there's so many claims and nothing is dead almost i don't know helium scum??

oh my god i'm sleeping night

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Sugoku, is any discussion occuring in the other Neighborhood? If so what? What is your read on Jason exactly? You have extra info to analyze them with that we don't.

jasonT1981 - Scum, ask Marquis.
Speedy Saki - Town, Mason
helium-3 - Town, Antihero is just obvious town. Mollie? is off her rocker though.
Desperado - Town, Encryptor claim timing has to be town.
Perpetual Nonsense - Town, Miller claim timing has to be town.
Juls - Scum, I don't like their questions or their play. If they were town they would realize their play is anti-town.
Sugoku Sugoi - Town, anyone who can be in a neighborhood with Juls and not suicide has to be town.
Oversoul - Null, Kind of lurky and I don't remember much from them.
SleepyKrew - Null, They have their town moments but I do agree their claim is odd.
Ser Arthur Dayne - Null, I remember nothing about them at all.

Posted that last night in the QT.

-Beast

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i like jason and oversoul wagons but not skrew wagon

not sure what think of singer because i want to say setup thinking scum influence but that's also what i thought. but juls was scum. but. but but but idk

potential limited access because computer is blah as well as mafia motivation being blah but physical issues blah

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Uh...what?

What was this too exactly?

PSA: All non-signed posts recently are Marquis.

-Beast

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Marquis made that post but let me do my best.

Your slot is scum based on play. I gave a brief reason for why I think you are scum in my reads list. Are you saying that when someone replaces into a slot you think is scum you just get rid of your read?

Marquis is stubborn as all hell. She was yelling at our neighborhood people because they were posting in it. She is crazy lately. The blah's are probably just the disinterest in playing the game at this point.

-Beast

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BEAST

who did you neighborize last night and why was it not me?

Desperado because there is no chance in hell they are scum. They haven't posted in it yet though which kind of concerns me that something happened to our action.

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BEAST

who did you neighborize last night and why was it not me?

Desperado because there is no chance in hell they are scum. They haven't posted in it yet though which kind of concerns me that something happened to our action.

also, you kind of didn't answer my question.

you picked up that this is my towngame in your last reads post but you don't want to work with me. why is this?

The name I am using isn't just beastcharizard. I am a hydra so not everything is what I want. Trust me, I have said I would love you to be in the neighborhood before. At this point having confirmed town is a lot better than having someone whom I believe to be town in the neighborhood.

Also, why do you dislike the fact that we chose Desperado over you so much?

-Beast

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it's not just the neighborhood thing

it's you in-thread behavior. as i said before, i feel like someone you ran into in public that you're pretending to not know

what's your thoughts on SAD?

yep.

also, since marquis' posting's been a little thin recently, i'm thinking you're driving the hydra for now beast

I am. Marquis is sick and is having computer problems. This is going to cause a little trouble seeing as I will be going out of town Monday and staying at a place with no wifi so i can only post from my phone.

I forget SAD is even in the game half the time. I only remember the name when they post. I posted an updated reads list last night in the Neighborhood. It is pretty similar to the one I posted yesterday though just with Desp as conf. town.

I am not trying to ignore you or anything. It is just that you haven't really said much that garnered a response from me.

-Beast

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I am not trying to ignore you or anything. It is just that you haven't really said much that garnered a response from me.

well for the last day i've been railing on f16 hydra who's apparently a townread of yours. so were you ever planning on engaging me re:that sugoku read or any of our reads because they don't really mesh up that well.

What is it you would like me to do? It seems no matter what I say you are not going to be satisfied with my answer.

I don't remember any of your reads. I know Mollie town reads this slot because of Marquis, like most people. Apparently you have a scum read on Sugoku. That is all I remember. I have not been focused on interacting with people I think to be town but rather trying to find the scum. I generally only interact with people I think are scummy this game unless they are in the Neighborhood.

I don't get why you are harping on me not neighborizing you though. If you could just explain that.

Also, I reply to anyone who acknowledges me first so why didn't you try to interact with me? Interaction is a two way street not a one-way which you are trying to make it.

Who did singer Neighborize last night?

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ugh

i already said this in the qt but i've been missing most of ththe past few days becayse sick and computer issues, might be limited access for a bit. i just took some motrin though and my computer has at least like 15 minutes of life now so i'm here for now if anyone wants to talk to me and not beast

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I don't get why you are harping on me not neighborizing you though. If you could just explain that.

i'm not harping on it; i said it once and then left it the next post.

._.

Also, I reply to anyone who acknowledges me first so why didn't you try to interact with me? Interaction is a two way street not a one-way which you are trying to make it.

Marquis made that post but let me do my best.

Your slot is scum based on play. I gave a brief reason for why I think you are scum in my reads list. Are you saying that when someone replaces into a slot you think is scum you just get rid of your read?

Marquis is stubborn as all hell. She was yelling at our neighborhood people because they were posting in it. She is crazy lately. The blah's are probably just the disinterest in playing the game at this point.

-Beast

/waves at beast

hey beast. i feel like i just ran into you in public and you're trying to pretend you don't know me.

what's goin' on with.... anything?

here ya' go buddy.

now, whenever you're through shaming me, you can talking about... anything related to the gamestate. do you still think singerslot is scum...? do you still think jason is scum...?

I didn't even see that post or else I would have responded. I don't like ignoring people.

Juls slot is still iffy yes. The replace out makes no sense to me at all. I didn't see a reason given which is a normal thing to do especially for town. They had already threatened to do it earlier in the game as well so this one did not sit well with me at all. There is also the fact that their neighborizing seems to have no rhyme or reason to it. I do understand the Desp one though.

Jason I say is scum because Marquis says so. I have leaned on Marquis a lot this game especially for things I don't pay attention to.

@Desp:

Can you tell us what has happened in the other Neighborhood?

-Beast

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VOTE: jason

so forced

also iirc wagon on jason was big both scumlynchdays then shifted, i think jason has been some more valuable scum role

pedit i really didn't like juls' day 1 attitude regarding it, almost as if she felt like she was obligated to fake a scumread on us. i don't remember the specific post but there was one that gave the feeling like it was subtly trying to push us as scum except it didn't feel genuinely believing that we were scum. also paranoia over 2 town neighborizers but after skrew's flip it might make sense? i was talking earlier about the whole too many pr claims and actually 1t/1s encryptor and 1t/1s neighborizer might make sense. but if that's parallel like that then a mirror to slandaar's role unclaimed????? like idek setup theory is b;ah

desp pls explain

pedit2 why are we scum????

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Also, Fuel, why wouldn't you consider neighborizing me?

I did. I actually suggested it be our first neighborization and then have Juls neighborize us so that we would have a pretty much interconnected neighborhood. Marquis didn't like the idea saying: "That isn't how it works."

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oh missed a pedit again

since we're talking about each other this is a good chance to talk out my read on you: i don't know. like. idk. we were about to neighborize you the night we neighborized sugoi, but that was more out of we-want-more-hydras-here-but-we-think-sugoi-the-other-hydra-we-have-a-townread-on-is-going-to-die but then metal really protested that and then sugoi. idr why metal/saki were scuumreading you but i think for me my read is more paranoia than anything, because the most i can remember from you is you keeping on saying we're scum or just questioning our obvtowniness and i really want to say you're scum trying to open up another mislynch option again after we got townreads earlier on. but i want to read you as town because i don't want to mislynch you

-marquis

pedit @ desp i was sick most of day 2 and on v/la, not to mention i didn't really know anything about slandaar so i probably would have stayed on jason if i was here anyway. day 3 i was mildly scumreading slice of life and i wanted to hammer so i hammered. day 4 i was townreading skrew for his day 1 antagonism, and near the end i got sick again. if you haven't noticed, i don't think beast has voted for us even once this game. i haven't been on the scum lynches? sorry, so sorry, but it doesn't mean we're scum.

pedit2 beast you kept trying to say "we should neighborize juls so we can combine the two neighborhoods". and for some reason i keep having to say, no, that isn't how it works. they would just be invited to our thread.

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stupidest wagon

can we just finally flip jason? then you can try to push a mislynch on us if he's town.

-marquis

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BEAST

who did you neighborize last night and why was it not me?

Desperado because there is no chance in hell they are scum. They haven't posted in it yet though which kind of concerns me that something happened to our action.

Why not helium? Why are you concerned something happened to your action?

1. I already said because Desp was confirmed town. I am assuming that is the same reason you decided to neighborize them.
2.1 Being roleblocked would allow someone to push our mislynch by saying we didn't neighborize someone on purpose.
2.2 The submitted post for the neighborization wasn't in this accounts sent folder so I was also worried that Marquis maybe didn't sent it in, which would have pissed me off.

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i am tempted to try and lynch helium now but i don't want to let go of the jason lynch

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they haven't been figuring anything out in the neighborhood.

Confirming this. Marquis likes talking in thread.

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i don't get it. are you trying to push a policy lynch because i haven't successfully lynched scum yet??

the only mislynch i had a big part of was the slice of life lynch, and i'm pretty sure 1) jason hasn't been lynched yet which is dumb and 2) jason isn't town (and trying to imply that because i was wrong about skrew and slice then i'm wrong about jason? no)

i can't even respond to you if you don't give me details. the most i remember of my town skrew read was because of his interactions with tammy and talking a lot day 1 -> antagonistic and open, and my opinion on the commuter claim was null because people were saying things like two town neighborizers with a commuter made for too many prs. which was also dumb because juls/singer is nowhere near conftown

i'm saying that beast has for the most part of this game conceded the vote to me and gotten used to that, which i guess i'm thankful for. that's usually how it is in all of my hydras bar doduo, so i'm glad that he's willing to let me take charge of that. but my point is that i'm guessing beast got used to not having to do much, no offense to him, so it's mostly just been me the whole game pushing wagons and votes on my own scumreads. and no, it's not stupid to assume our votes reflect specifically my reads, and not exactly beast's. beast posted a readslist of his own in the neighborhood if you want to actually see his point of view.

also please don't say retarded. it really bothers me that you feel the need to apply that word in that kind of context.

-marquis

pedit oh god incoming new post about neighborhood discussion

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their hydra dynamic is awful and maybe it was a factor of me skimming but all of the posts sogoku referred to that showed they were obvtown were just...boring.

they haven't been figuring anything out in the neighborhood.

so let's see. i've already explained this in the neighborhood. probably not well since sugoi mostly f16 got offended or confused couldn't tell which

but let me explain more simply

this is how i see the neighborhood (and i am writing this down without looking at it but desp you can crosscheck me on this):

the neighborhood during day 1 was open for our discussion of these things: types of players we wanted to neighborize, specific neighborization targets for that night, and townreads we weren't willing to share with the whole game (read: masons being blatant but still potentially unnoticed).

everything else could be in the thread. i didn't and still don't see any reason why reads and decisions that aren't based

comp blue screening brb

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just in case that last line didn't make sense i can tell when i'm about to crash because skype crashes then windows explorer

continuing

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For an amazing look at my mental state right now:

I have had two separate sicknesses in like the past week. The first was salmonella and now it's a 102 fever. Add on to that my school computer that I need for coding is dying and I have no idea what's wrong with it. I'm stressing myself out over trying to save money after not being to get a summer job earlier on and trying to juggle a buttload of games and right now everything is going wrong. Sorry to sound really bitchy but I need to vent, particularly here where I have to fight off a super annoying attempt to lynch me yet again. I'm not going to replace out though because I think without the fever messing with my head I actually have a pretty good grasp on the game and I'm pretty sure I know what's going on for the most part.

i can't even respond to you if you don't give me details. the most i remember of my town skrew read was because of his interactions with tammy and talking a lot day 1 -> antagonistic and open, and my opinion on the commuter claim was null because people were saying things like two town neighborizers with a commuter made for too many prs. which was also dumb because juls/singer is nowhere near conftown

you can't respond to me if i don't give you details about your own fucking read?

I just already told you the most of what I remembered of it and now you're saying it's more convoluted than that. I need details about what's so convoluted because again I just explained the extent of what I thought would be that

Beast please quote these

My computer crashed twice in ten minutes I'm so done with it

Tl dr I don't see the point in trying to work out reads super secretly in a neighborhood because unless it's like "I think they're masons" like day 1 like why bother running it through there only also just more work if you're going to talk about it in the thread anyway

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By again I'm referring to almost always getting wagoned as town, and being unable to fight off the lynch once it builds.

I really hate having to bring it up because someone's bound to say it's a form of selfmeta but well get over it. It's an undeniable truth that the pattern happens almost every game and I'm sick of it: early townread, shift to scumread, get mislynched.

In particular I'm thinking of Ace Attorney mafia

Bert helped mislynch me there when I was Town Cop

(Bert tell Desp I'm town because I'm tired of this)

Also helium can die tomorrow too

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Anyone in the neighborhood can confirm this. I have called your hydra town because of you the whole damn game. And you are trying to say I am making it up as a scum tactic? What sense does that make at all?

We aren't voting you at this point so we don't need to resolve our differences. If the time comes where we are voting you and the other disagrees with it then we will resolve the problem.

@Singer:

Where is the eta? Is it Marquis saying they are sick and have computer problems?

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I should mention only phone posts for the rest of the day probably.

-Beast

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I said that they should know I had asked to neighborize Juls and that Marquis hated the idea. I was not against it by any means.

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@Singer:

Where is the eta? Is it Marquis saying they are sick and have computer problems?

Yes?

What was your reaction when Sudoku suggested inviting me to the neighborhood? At this point, I don't really see adding a '100%' townread being the right play?

But yet you also recruited Desperado as well. Have you said why you chose them?

Marquis is stubborn and wanted an all town neighborhood. So she went with the confirmed town player. Yes it was 4 days ago but I believe I suggested it after that as well. I am not one to let go of my ideas when I think they are brilliant.

You could have always recruited us to have solo interaction with us allowing you to better your read with few other influences. You can't just paint it like we are entirely at fault here.

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Antihero, I will be back to talk to you around 10 PM EST I hope. You can bombard me with anything and everything you want to know at that point.

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Anti, didn't you want something from me?

-Beast

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hey oversoul you should bus Jason instead

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ugh internet explorer has autocorrect wtf

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BERT PLEASE JUST VOTE JASON PLEASE.

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The BS SK threw at me, well he spent 4 days screaming I am scum, riling up everyone trying to get my lynch without doing any work himself, when he finally was forced to put his case, it was weak as hell and bullshit.

this was softbussing

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or rather bussing but not putting any work into it so it looks like they're distant and far from the other

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FUCKING YES! EAT THAT, SLEEPY!!

^scum gloating

Why would scum be gloating.....at the lynch of another scum.

Stop stretching, you are sounding as bad as Sleepy.

^lynch this

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bert you already said he was scum so you have no problems with sheeping me instead of sad right?? right

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Phone posts from me for a couple days. Won't let it hinder my play.

-Beast

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helium did beast neighborize you? i didn't get any response from zach. though maybe he's more occupied with.. .-.

-marquis

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i think it's SAD/feu

i think maybe one of those

probably

not the other

-marquis

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er

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ok so.

most of my scumreads revolve around jason and beyond that day 1 play right now. but like my scumreads are kind of blending now because i am remembering reasons why i was scumreading them and i'm just left with like. my townreads. which is normally okay but at this point in games i usually have a majority of the game labeled as townreads and right now i'm hanging onto like the core ones. it's also really stupid how metal died because stupid.

where i am right now in my reads

town

feu et vol - conftown
perpetual nonsense - nearconftown because of claim, every time i can remember before when scum claimed miller it was later into the game/when they were close to a lynch and claim as town fits

mostly town

sugoku sugoi - really town still but i guess i just expected to have more "aha pie is town" moments by now. idk if it's just confusion between telling heads but like ehh. feeling nowhere like my "OMG PIE IS SCUM" twitchiness in etl's one kingmaker marathon game but if that's another piescumtell for me then ehhhhhk again.

everyone else who i am either paranoid confused or probably just wanting to tunnel for things you might call irrelevant but are actually scummy things you cannot just tell me to ignore although more likely i'm actually just realizing the importance of the neighborhood right now while it is locked and i cannot mutter incoherently in it

everyone else

(in that everyone else jason drifts toward the bottom dead oversoul for some reason wants to keep going toward the bottom because he's kind of stuck in there for some reason julsinger is being dragged to the bottom by giant squid and helium is like bouncing around everywhere and it is weird)

-marquis

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@singer:
How do you forget to neighborize someone?
It is you, Jason and sugo in the neighborhood.

Mine is me, sugo, helium, perpetual nonsense

@helium:

Now you can't complain. I haven't been distant and if there is anything you want from me let me know. You can also see I told the truth about wanting to neighborize you.


Also scum have to be between SAD, Singer and Jason. Everyone else is town to me.

-Beast

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things i wanted to address remembered

-marquis

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townreads shouldn't be voting even stronger townreads

please just

stop

-marquis

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apparently the only thing marquis knows how to do is push pushpushspuskhpush jason even though it's beoming increasingly apparent he's not scum. static scumreads that just PLOP sit there.

post 232 neighborhood last night for all

"2) between him and skrew is the important thing. jason keeps bringing up the "skrew was saying to lynch me!!!!!!!" point so often it's so annoying. but as jason himself admitted, skrew never made the case he said he could make. jason keeps trying to push this for towncred when the more likely scenario is that skrew was bussing jason even harder as he was about to get lynched to distance them. as for why he didn't make a case idk? weaker bus contentwise in an attempt to not bring up actual evidence for a jason lynch??? doesn't matter because i think jason's reaction to the bus is what i keep coming back to, how he keeps bringing it up as a defense.

and then there's the whole day 1 jason iso which if people would actually fucking read it is scummy af, just trying to jump onto the easiest and most irrelevant "scumtells" blah"

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>NS mysteriously keels over once it leaks in their neighborhood that he's a mason
>a less-than-awesome looking hammer of Slice of Life

>we already knew/were pretty damn sure since day 1 before they "confirmed" it and as scum we would have killed him then instead of outing that we knew about the masons ahead of time which kind of blatantly puts us in the line of fire for that kill
>i'm still pretty looking and i'm still town

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there was something else i wanted to say but i forgot which is dumb because it was a really blatant should-be-obvious-but-is-being-ignored thing and ugh

-marquis

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if they were really town, i'd think the heads would try to resolve this.

ah

ah

ah

this

this struck me as a really weak and really misrepresentative kind of thing to apply as a reason for being scum and this is some part of the reason why i really am not liking helium right now.

because

1) it makes a lot more sense for scum hydrae to have reads that sync up because scum want to be consistent and not get called out as flipflopping, and that's something that i think kind of naturally is brought over from scum individual play into scum hydra play

and

2) mollie and anti should both i think know better by now than to say i'm scum for not syncing up reads because i'm preetttttty sure they've been in at least one doduo game (i.e. dark age of the law, where ns wanting to push his totally opposite reads to mine to the point where every other post was us trying to steal our own vote back from the other made us as i quote from the dead qt "doduo scum mvp".) and even in we the purple as jessica (jessica = katarina leblanc + me) we were a bit less distanced from each other than i am with my other hydras because we know each other more closely offsite but still we kept being unsyncy and not caring enough to bring that together. i played a big part in both hydrae and trying to say that you think i have enough quality of finesse to actively try and sync reads perfectly even on you since you think apparently that's so important or something i don't even know is both overestimating my kind of hydra play which i admit and have admitted needs work that i am frankly a bit too lazy to give at this point and underestimating me in terms of how i actually feel about my reads.

tl;dr basically saying we're scum because we don't sync a read on you is bad and also maybe sounds needy and i don't like it.

-marquis

pedit bert is near conftown and is coasting on that. he needs to post a lot more and actually do things but if you think he's scum you might as well be jason continuing to try and push a speedy saki angle. get off of that and get back to jason

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or you can get off once he actually posts but with the way you're acting

i don't think you'll find it arousing enough regardless of what he says

i have a feeling you're going to keep being stubborn about this

-marquis

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Getting back from my vacation today. Can't wait to post from a computer.

@helium

What exactly are your thoughts of the neighborhood?

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@helium

What exactly are your thoughts of the neighborhood?

what exactly do you want to talk about in the neighborhood beast?

I never said a single thing about wanting to talk in the neighborhood. I just asked what your thoughts were about it in general. We obviously can't talk in it since it is locked due to the encryptors dying. Come on. You are asking dumb questions now or letting Jason influence you way too much.

Also, back at a computer finally.

-Beast

Completely forgot to switch to this account.

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so NOW you want to lynch jason

no objections tho

VOTE: jason

at this point can we please just go for the guaranteed scum lynch instead of trying to start yet another town pissing match? (f16 this is for you)

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also at this point I don't think there are any unclaimed town PRs left

we have me and singer claiming neighborizer and perpet claiming miller. sad helium and jason claim vt and I'm seriously doubting anything else from sugoi

I believe perpet's claim. and like I said before I want to think singer is a scum neighborizer but I also don't because I'm not feeling the scum vibes play wise that I did with juls and now I don't know how much of that was paranoia.

basically I think I'm just procrastinating on sorting singer until jason finally flips and I'm actually ok with that

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there's really not much else to say

i'm leaning helium or singer for scum too with this

sugoi i understand you wanting the hammer but please understand me telling you to just vote him already

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doesn't apply; bert is still town

get over it.

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I don't know how exactly I'm reading sad anymore and I still don't care

Can we lynch jason and stop screaming so close to deadline

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Sad I understand that your point is that if one of them is scum the other isn't but why can they not be a scumteam

I really don't get how you got to that scenario because if I didn't already think sugoi was town the two of them are pairing up and playing off of each other and why can't they both be scum for that in your view

Pedit I really really hope you're scum now because this is ridiculous

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BUT THE TELL

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"I think blank and blank are scum but let's push away from the bigger wagon because in reality that's my scum partner and I'm trying to look like I supported his lynch if he flips first"

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I want to vote sad now but I legit don't know if it'll be a hammer this time. Also brackets on ipad

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why is a jason lynch so fucking hard to get

If you all are supposedly scum reading him too, how many of you are scumpartners who are just saying it to look good and how many of you are town insistent on putting off obvscum until after he wins

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NO

I DONT WANT THIS WAGON

SUGOI STOP POTENTIALLY BEING DRIVEN BY OMGUS AND VOTE JASON

SAD I DONT CARE IF IM ASKING YOU TO BUS NOW BUT YOU VOTE JASON TOO

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"I think blank and blank are scum but let's push away from the bigger wagon because in reality that's my scum partner and I'm trying to look like I supported his lynch if he flips first"

Lol?

No I legit still think Jason is scum and fully don't expect anyone to join me on Sugo and will switch back.

What a prime example of someone who has no hope in reading me.

I really feel like quoting nicki minaj lyrics at you right now.

You are incredibly frustrating because this is exactly why jason hasn't been lynched yet.

Put your vote where your mouth is I dare you.

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Double dog dare you.

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Would actually prefer you self voting at this point over voting one of your supposed scumreads.

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Perpet
Sugoi





Helium

Singer
SAD


Jason

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Lynch bottom to top.

Do not pass jason, do not collect $200

Pedit how hard is this to explain: there is a perfectly good wagon on jason that can actually push through if people actually believe their scumreads. You have stated multiple times that you agree that jason is scum. Yet you are being useless and pushing on mostlyobvtown. Do you understand why I think you are scum with jason now?

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please define sarcasm go ahead

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So Jason is your compromise lynch or you don't think you can get a wagon going on someone else.

Your scum reads should now be: Feu, Singer, Perpetual

Is that correct?

Also your opinion changed quickly about Jason.

-Beast

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actually helium probtown??

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just hammer jason stop pointlessly arguing

the only thing he can flip is scum. there was no reason for skrew to do what he did if he wasn't a scumbuddy. and at this point it's poe anyway

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it's the day before LYLO

so do you think jason is scum or not

I don't even know agree you stand anymore. beast said something about this being a compromise lynch for you and you said no but you're acting like you're pretty sure jason is town???

you two

are really........ wobbly now

this is not helping my paranoia.

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tempted to spontaneously jump to sad wagon but 90 minutes left and........ nobody is here

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sad doesn't strike me as the type to stick his own neck out by backing out of a bus even if it could be done subtly.

there are much better tone and gut related reasons to scumread sad

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although that might not be better for you

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also i would call out your "worst case scenario" explanation as reeking of bullshit if i wasn't so desperate to hold onto my townreads at this point

(but yeah it sounds like scum bullshit)

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oh you're already voting jason

anti

bert

come on

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Who did you neighborize last night?

I neighborized you since your neighborhood only had 2 people because you somehow forgot you had an action yesterday. If we were to die this would still allow you to converse with a group of people at night to find the scum or for you to be found out to be scum.

Also you were the person people wanted in the QT.

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That was Beast by the way.

-Beast

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Did Sugo have any say in that?

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So my computer died again and I think I'll be stuck on my phone for the rest of today which combined with that nightkill is really fucking annoying

Was really hoping scum would kill sugoi last night because after last night I'm really nervous about them being scum but I am like....... really really really sure the common denominator of any scumteam is sad.

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Singer I want you to actually say something about the dual encryptors and dual neighborizers instead of just completely ignoring the setup aspect.

As in would you say I am scum setupwise? According to sugoi you keep saying it's got to be me but I can't even tell from what mentality you're making that from and it just sounds like a calculated repeat statement that I can't get any tonereads on which is also frustrating.

Pedit hint you're not making this any easier to deal with

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I can't shake the feeling that Sugo is scum.

They have that post where they were lining up lynches. It hasn't left my mind.

@Singer:

Read our Neighborhood and comment on what is inside.

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if I screamed "'honestly' scumtell" twice how would you feel about that

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I was once told saying honestly/honest in a post was a scum tell.

-Beast

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I think I'm going to vote SAD probably way too soon because I really can't see myself changing my mind

Every scumteam i think is actually viable has him in it. The only thing besides is the whole singer and sugoi neighborhood....thing..which is possible but compared to sad scum has like nothing else going for it