Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

[The Goat]

Oh, hello.

[The Goat]

Random thoughts through the quick read through of the first six pages:

1) BirdAbdBeast is mildly psychotic. I like.

2) I would prefer to deal with the Pirate Mollie head of the Infinite Jesters hydra.

3) Agar appears to have done something that I felt pressured to do on occasion at MS. Basically, those rom other, more casual sites can wander in here and get chewed the hell up because they're used to fluff posting. So they start OVERanalyzing everything.

Unless, of course, he was FEIGNING the need to overanalyze. This requires further analysis.

[The Goat]

Hmm. Or, maybe, it was genuine town concern, and he just freaked the hell out.

I will not be voting Agar.

vote: BirdAndBeast

[The Goat]

errrrrrrnt

?

[The Goat]

try again

If you're gonna do that, put forth effort.

Were you looking for this sort of sound effect?

X

If you're not gonna put forth that sort of effort, at least try to tell me WHY I should try again. Much along the lines of "Don't just tell me you don't like my plan. Either come up with a better plan or shut up."

[The Goat]

2) I would prefer to deal with the Pirate Mollie head of the Infinite Jesters hydra.

do you know how ludicrous you sound I am like 1 of the most hated players

slightly on par with sven

I do not care how I sound. I respected your play in the last game I was in with you. Sven got himself suspended, I think, so I don't have a great read.

[The Goat]

that x doesn't make any sound
it's just red and big
no onomatopoeia at all

You did not watch enough Family Feud.

The Big Red X has a sound.

[The Goat]

goat dearie
just because the red x correlates with the sound
doesn't mean you you can conclude that the red x makes or is the sound
the errrrrnt is the sound

i would tell you why you should try again (beyond the fact that you're clearly wrong)
but i don't know if i can handle the profound absurdity involved in explaining mafia to a goat

Well, since we're being condescending, let's break it down a little further. "Dearie."

Your "errnt" doesn't make a sound, either. The only sound inherent to the conversation is one in our minds, based on the correlation between the text and what it relates to.

And from an American point of view, the big red X wins that direct comparison.

If you'd like to explain Mafia to someone, please go to the newbie queue. T'isn't required here.

[The Goat]

Idk what AP is like
Mastin overanalyzes little things

I'm not inclined to think BandB is scum at this point in time, but I wouldn't be against lynching them just to remove them from the game if they're going to spam the whole time.
This isn't the time and place for that. Use your hydra QT to organize thoughts pls. I have a hard enough time deciphering what's bullshit and what isn't as it is.

Agar could be scum. Organizing the town is the easy scum play for day 1. Idk is Agar's the one I want to see flip day 1 though.

Right now I'm not sure if I'd rather see Serene2 or InfiiniteJesters flip. I'll be back in a moment with an answer to that.
Not committing to next post being a vote.

p.s.
There's something in the Jordan/Goat interaction that I don't like. <-Note for later, or anybody that wants to try to do my job for me while I decide which of Serene or Jesters I like less.

It may break down into an onomotapeial vs text debate. I'm not sure. Regardless, I recommend that everyone watch the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpSbeiPLB30

This, regardless of onomatopoeia, is where the "errant" sound CAME from. It was later accompanied by a Big. Red. X. Hence a pop cultural reference for "wrong."

[The Goat]

goat dearie
just because the red x correlates with the sound
doesn't mean you you can conclude that the red x makes or is the sound
the errrrrnt is the sound

i would tell you why you should try again (beyond the fact that you're clearly wrong)
but i don't know if i can handle the profound absurdity involved in explaining mafia to a goat

Well, since we're being condescending, let's break it down a little further. "Dearie."

Your "errnt" doesn't make a sound, either. The only sound inherent to the conversation is one in our minds, based on the correlation between the text and what it relates to.

And from an American point of view, the big red X wins that direct comparison.

If you'd like to explain Mafia to someone, please go to the newbie queue. T'isn't required here.

oh
you're taking our banter seriously

Well, I really dislike being called "Dearie." Unless you're flirting. Then it's ok.

[The Goat]

shall i plan to repost your video in MD later for extensive postgame analysis, Mr. Goat?

Oh, surely.

[The Goat]

(As an aside, there probably needs to be a handbook for distinguishing British lighthearted sparring from American jackassery.)

[The Goat]

we are lovers with sven

do you see him working with us?

serene was way too quick to give that town read IMO

serene is scum. so is sven.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhh...

(Agar is, though.)

jesus christ look at who is trying to be protown

AGAR
SVEN
SERENE

So you out us as lovers ... and you want to lynch me, which would kill you. Good job. Or am I missing some logic here?

All, I would be down with a BandB lynch, I am leaning town

but I dont care, the spamming is just too much

. I knew mastin was a clown player without skill but I am suprised to AP sinking into mastins filth.

Still dont understand the Agar votes, it seems like on this site "if someone is being towny" he has to be "scum".

I also like mr Zphers start.

Please don't do this. If memory serves, voting someone for potential town behavior is contradictory to everything you stand for.

Pursuing this could lead to me breaking open another growler of stout and getting into an argument. The last time this occurred, I woke up on a bus two days later.

In Wales.

Married.

I can't afford that sort of thing.

Again.

[The Goat]

So THIS is when I'm supposed to post.

Got it.

vote BirdAndBeast.

[The Goat]

Good God. It is incredibly difficult to separate meta from play in this game. I still like my vote, but...Titus, a question:

You stated that you wanted to remain anonymous because you were concerned about an overabundance of scummy PMs giving people a biased read on you. Please pardon the paraphrasing, By PMs, do you mean that you're frequently roled as scum lately, and are concerned that people would think you more likely to be scum because of that?

[The Goat]

Wow.

So...zoraster, you're suggesting that LD decided to out himself as a cop to run a gambit with you in the hopes of getting scum reads?

[The Goat]

Hey! I've been on this site 8 years!

[The Goat]

Weird?

Well, maybe a little.

vote Zoraster

[The Goat]

BirdAndBeast need to be town.

hm? why?

I dont really have a read on the guy. literally i have like a 50/50 mindset like everything he does could go either way.

if serene is actually a lyncher, that is quite possibly the best thing ever.

Sven zepher and Jesters are almost definitely town.

the goat rubs me off as weird. but he kinda townslipped too so :s

AGar is probably my biggest scum read that isn't zoraster,

seems to be trying to distract the town in a harmful way

Example, please?

[The Goat]

Please note that Zoraster is now at L-1. No accidental hammering by anyone other than BROseidon.

[The Goat]

1) Apologies for being stupid and not working with Bro to set up the hammer properly.

2) Sven: Look at the last game we played together, then tell me how scummy I am again.

3) While I'm inclined to vote Serene, I'm gonna reread. That gambit that was pulled a could days ago really rubbed me the wrong way.


A reread may happen later today, or may happen tomorrow. I work from home, and my kids are off from school. They're demons.

[The Goat]

My top two suspects from this shift are Aronis and Reck. Aronis I've already explained. Reck has been playing antitown by ignoring the other shift. He's also been making a lot of fluff posts.

Unvote. Vote: Zdenek.

Sheeping BRO, though I'd like to see a vote with more conviction.

lol

I'm not reading the other shift so I'm anti-town? How about the players who are lurking and haven't posted whatsoever, how is that any less anti-town?

Hi.

Because what you're doing is a conscious decision. Lurking and/or not posting is not necessarily so.

The pattern of this game is thoroughly messing with me, and the lack of continuity is making me lose interest. So for that, I apologize.

I'm gonna eat pizza, put my kids to bed, grab a beer or seven, and then one of two things is going to occur:

1) I'm gonna reread from the point at which I put forth any effort to read, and analyze as best I can. You crazy bastiches use terminology that I'm unfamiliar with, but reads are reads, regardless of the terms you use to define the actions. If you're scum, you're scum. And I'll catch you/

2) I'm going to watch a movie with my wife, which will hopefully lead to my inability to proceed with option 1. If that occurs, I will then do option 1 tomorrow morning. Early.

[The Goat]

Is it my imagination, or did that night shift last five days?

Here today, will do full re-read and try to be constructive.

[The Goat]

add goat boy to the list of people of interest he is really getting his hands dirty or interacting with people all that much which is very different from the 1 game we played together.

hey goat boy, lets interact. I know we are on separate shifts but we can still xtalk and didn't you say you wanted to talk to me????

Hi. My eyes are bleeding after the 20-ish pages I just powered through. I'm going to assume you meant "isn't" rather than "is."

The one game we played together, I was on vacation, and drinking quite a bit. Now I'm working from home. And drinking quite a bit.

[The Goat]

Powerskimming results:

First and foremost, the content from a few days back was so laden with "my brain is bigger than yours" bullshit that it makes reads difficult. Knock it off girls...you're all pretty.

Second, Serene...your actions were, in my eyes, counterproductive to your wincon. What you did completely muddled the BnB read for most of the town. I still think he's scum (the phone posting bit pinged the hell out of me), but we'll get around to it when we get around to it. Jumping up and down and screaming "lynch him so I can go home!" isn't exactly motivational.

Initial Town Reads:

Sven
Brian Skies
Venmar (that bit where he argues with Broseidon was either the most over-the-top scum play I've ever seen or pure town. I'm going with the latter.)

Leaning Town:

PeregrineV

Scum reads:

BnB
Reckoner

Reck: You actually take time to come in and post, but don't take time to post content...and this is from one of the fluffier posters on this site. I really do not like the way you're flinging your vote around all nimbly-pimbly. All you're doing is sheeping with a very shady-looking soft claim.

I was going to put hiplop on my scum list because of post 1896, but upon reading his ISO, I realized that his reads and reasoning were very similar to mine. So...:shrug:

Sticking with my original read, because he hasn't gotten ANY better upon reading his content.

vote BnB

Will re-read and post more before the end of this shift.

[The Goat]

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Powerskimming results:

First and foremost, the content from a few days back was so laden with "my brain is bigger than yours" bullshit that it makes reads difficult. Knock it off girls...you're all pretty.

Second, Serene...your actions were, in my eyes, counterproductive to your wincon. What you did completely muddled the BnB read for most of the town. I still think he's scum (the phone posting bit pinged the hell out of me), but we'll get around to it when we get around to it. Jumping up and down and screaming "lynch him so I can go home!" isn't exactly motivational.

Initial Town Reads:

Sven
Brian Skies
Venmar (that bit where he argues with Broseidon was either the most over-the-top scum play I've ever seen or pure town. I'm going with the latter.)

Leaning Town:

PeregrineV

Scum reads:

BnB
Reckoner

Reck: You actually take time to come in and post, but don't take time to post content...and this is from one of the fluffier posters on this site. I really do not like the way you're flinging your vote around all nimbly-pimbly. All you're doing is sheeping with a very shady-looking soft claim.

I was going to put hiplop on my scum list because of post 1896, but upon reading his ISO, I realized that his reads and reasoning were very similar to mine. So...:shrug:

Sticking with my original read, because he hasn't gotten ANY better upon reading his content.

vote BnB

Will re-read and post more before the end of this shift.

So in the next 6 hours, huh? And this will happen because.................?

Because I SAID I would.

Also..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_SFevIz1FI

[The Goat]

So. Other thoughts.

Dry-Fit is reading as nulll-scum.
I have no read on Good Morning.

14.5 looks townish.
I see no reason to disbelieve the lovers claim.

[The Goat]

Jesus.

Aronis.

For someone who pointed fingers at someone very early on for not posting content, you've done very little but sow confusion and ask pointless questions.

ISO by everyone is recommended.

[The Goat]

I'm also torn on ika. A lot of what was being done early on looked like intentional obfuscation. But...looking into it deeper, I don't think so. It looks like thoroughly scattered scum hunting. Post 1795 in particular is what made me think this.

[The Goat]

I'm gonna go get a beer and start some laundry. If anyone wants to come in and shoot me a question, I'll be back before the suggested deadline.

[The Goat]

Reading is still in progress, so it'll probably be next time before I'm fully caught up. In the meantime, some impressions:
Pere is playing this game. Like, actually seriously playing it. This isn't something I recall seeing before. Is this indicative, people who know him better than I do?
serene is behaving exactly as expected. Only reason I even tried to read them was for kuribo rants but
Main thing I

don't

like about BnB is their first post bringing up shadows and lights. Why? Why think of it? It's not like they haven't had (an)other game(s) on that hydra.
Not sure if I trust Reck to be Town yet.
ika's vanilla claim... wtf? and the rest of the posts... I can see why there was some stuff being written about him.
Brian worries me a little. He's a pretty decent Scum player, and while there's nothing overtly scummy in his posts there's definitely some tonal stuff I don't like. I'll be looking to clarify my thoughts on him with more current posting from him.
I think I believe the lover claim. That said, I'm not sure I think they're both Town.
The Jesters hydra confuses me greatly.

Re: Pere. Yes, from what I recall.
Re: Jesters. That happens. It's Mollie's fault.

[The Goat]

Indicative of...?

And I sort of guessed that.

I'm not sure what you're asking.

[The Goat]

Asking what his activity is indicative of, if anything.

Additionally, I'd like to know why BRO hasn't changed his vote if he finds it so iffy, but that's not really a question for you.

Whose activity...Pere's?

From what I've seen of Peregrine, he's a solid player. Good content, good analysis as town if memory serves.

I don't know that I've seen his scum game.

[The Goat]

18 minutes boys and girls, if your vote isn't on a wagon with at least 4 votes, is more than likely wasted. Fence-sitters...

How is there not a beer smiley?

[The Goat]

I Just had a small injury with my bad knee that I broke in the past, i'm going to be taking a short V/LA to rest and heal and make sure it's okay. Sorry for inconveniences.

Feel better.

[The Goat]

Mollie...post 1978 made me need to post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujrEgfh8bIc

I'm pretty sure they referred to me as goat boy...because you did it first. In this game.

Anyway, I can't see how Serene still being in the game makes anything he's said thus far pro-town.

vote Serene

[The Goat]

Oh, good. Shift change.

Zephyr, unless you know something I don't, I don't think "guaranteed" means what you think it means.

[The Goat]

For what it's worth, this game style seems far more conducive to non-participation than others I've been in. It seems as though I've had about a day and a half out of the past week and a half when I was actually on an active shift.

To that end, I'm a little less inclined to equate low-flying with anti-town.

[The Goat]

For what it's worth, this game style seems far more conducive to non-participation than others I've been in. It seems as though I've had about a day and a half out of the past week and a half when I was actually on an active shift.

To that end, I'm a little less inclined to equate low-flying with anti-town.

Dude, I wasn't even replying to you.

[The Goat]

I don't even have words for aronis's "why are the lovers not dead yet" when there was a missing scum kill. and gm agreeing with him.

like, there aren't even words.

you guys dithered over serene and town lynched bird people are you really going to derp this round out too

goat people I am here we can talk now!!!

Sup?

[The Goat]

vote: Reckoner

I don't see a good reason to go anywhere else.

[The Goat]

Actually, did Serene make any sort of case on Reckonoer at all? Town or scum?

...I guess I could go look....

[The Goat]

Okay. I Iso-ed Serene, and now I need to wash my eyes. Jebus.

He only mentions Reckoner once: "Lazy Reck is town Reck."

Vote stands for now.

[The Goat]

Day shift, you need to make sure that

reck

and

hiplop

fullclaims.

They are both prime suspects but if they can clear themselfs through claiming then fine, but they will have to eat the NK, there is no way we can take their word for it with regards as to how they have played thus far.

VOTE: hiplop

Pedit, Sup lover.

Not to be that guy, but wouldn't it be easier for them to force a claim if you left your vote on Reckoner?

[The Goat]

Never mind. I'm an idiot, and tunneling on Reckoner.

[The Goat]

Well holy shit.

[The Goat]

I am Jeremy Conkley, the Former College Athlete Who Actually Cares About His Job.

I am a VT.

If you feel I'm the best lynch, go for it. I won't even get upset (mostly because the shifts in this game are messing with me, and I can't really get engaged). But my wagon is shady as fuck.

I'd specifically like to hear from Peregrine and hiplop about their reasoning.

[The Goat]

Huh.

unvote

I actually believe Reckoner. If I get lynched, I'd like people to remember that.

[The Goat]

Disregard my request for hearing from Peregrine...he laid out his case long ago.

[The Goat]

VOTE: goat

got work in a few so putting this here

Okay...so let me get this straight; early in the game, you get into a debate with B&B about FOS and voting, and why suspicion is alluded to without voting, and so on...


...and then you just drop a vote on me and disappear?

You only even mentioned my name one other time during the entire game, when someone else had me on a list.

You can accuse me of a self-preservation vote if you'd like, but I'm pretty sure you did it first.

vote ika

[The Goat]

Also, Reckoner, your reasoning seems to be sound. Your conclusions are wrong.

[The Goat]

i like

reck

more aswell now that

jordan

explained that he missread his role.

I am fine with a

ika

lynch, i would be more fine with a

goodmorning

lynch.

I know you've probably laid it out fairly clearly, but I'm a bit busy at work....

...can you explain why?

[The Goat]

i like

reck

more aswell now that

jordan

explained that he missread his role.

I am fine with a

ika

lynch, i would be more fine with a

goodmorning

lynch.

I might be down with a gm lynch but I am hot and heavy for an ika 1.

serene did everything but practically announce in broad neon letters that they were scum and I don't like how ika kept tying to steer the lynch off of them. you did too, but you have given me enough to make me want to leave you alone and mebbe we can work together or something.

I haven't liked gm for awhile. nacho thinks ika is town for saying, "I am vt!" under no pressure and I disagree. nacho keeps comparing olympians to this game despite desp and I screaming "look at the isaac game!".

I STILL think reck might be scum and it makes me sad especially since we have yet to be on the same shift where we can talk IRL and potentially work things out if he is town. reck is a solid unsure leaning scum.

I am not going to be down with a goat lynch

despite him ignoring me

. mastina had him as town and I am leaning that way too.

in case anybody has forgotten my scum/unsure pile: ika, gm, aronis and there has to be 1 loud scum in there I am thinking. they might not

all

be scum but there is scum in there somewhere and I wanna start with ika but I will settle for gm or aronis.

this is not town aronis, aronis replaced into a game in a slot that I was pretty sure was town and he was pretty dead on with his reads and I AM SEEING NONE OF THAT HERE.

Hi Mollie.

What do you want to know?

[The Goat]

your thoughts on...life, the universe and everything.

mebbe you could say something about your reads and the gamestate as well.

Life is what you make of it. The Universe, in the grand scope of things, is as well.


Everything else...

Again, I'm having difficulty keeping up with this game. For that, I apologize.

I have no qualms with the lovers pair. I do question why neither is dead, other than possibly someone playing ratgames (off-site term) with protections.

I have your hydra, Sven, Brian Skies, Reckoner, and Jordan in my head as town.

I'm neutral on Zdenek, goodmorning, and 14.5.

I'm starting to lean scum on Dry-fit, hiplop and Zephyr...the iso of the latter is starting to look more and more like scum just analyzing and complimenting wagons that are beneficial to it, and quietly pushing them to the gallows.

I'm leaning scum on ika, and I may have completely misread Peregrine early on.

I can't figure out hiplop and Aronis.

But...Jebus...as I type this, much of the other shift looks shady. If I'm right, it's going to be easy as hell for them to push mislynches, then let our shift do their dirty work of finishing it off for them.

[The Goat]

Sven, could you answer my question?

[The Goat]

Fuck it. I'll go look.

[The Goat]

Christ. During some game in the future, I'm going to do something unfortunate to Venmar for analyzing what was going on, then screaming "TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS POTATO!" at the top of his lungs.

I can't really get much out of goodmorning's contribution.

Upon reading back...I might actually be an extremely useful lynch. I'm a VT, but analysis of my wagon is gonna make scum extremely nervous. Go ahead and lynch me, then watch them squirm on the other shift. It'll be fun.

No, really. Go ahead.

vote Goat

:gives the entire other shift the finger:

[The Goat]

information lynches are dumb

I could not possibly disagree more.

[The Goat]

do some friggin scumhunting

Fine. If you're not willing to do the information thing, then I suggest we lynch ika.

unvote, vote ika

[The Goat]

Ummm no that's far from helpful. Your lynch is one of apathy not necessarily one of scum pushing. Go vote scum instead.

It's not really apathy. I play my role. If I can be helpful as a VT, I'll certainly do that. If I feel there are scum on my wagon (and I do), then I have no issue with being lynched for the eventual benefit of the town.

[The Goat]

V/la until the weekend.

Sven, if I'm lynched, I'd like you to admit you can't read me worth a damn.

[The Goat]

Yeah, I'm gonna try this again. I'm starting to think that the seat of my pants is smarter than the seat of many other people's pants.

vote ika

[The Goat]

Responding to prod...will catch up.

[The Goat]

Sounds repetitive, but I read back, and I STILL don't see a persuasive argument for anyone else.

vote ika

[The Goat]

vote Aronis.

This vote will not move.

[The Goat]

Not only has Aronis proven to me to be staggeringly anti-town regardless of actual role alignment, but his ISO looks pretty shady.

[The Goat]

Still on l/va. Back home later today.

[The Goat]

V/la until the weekend.

YOU SAID THIS A MONTH AGO

No.

I did not.

[The Goat]

Ik, he needs to die.

VOTE: The Goat

Me:
Generally disinterested player who has been more or less useless and playing as a disinterested townie. True. My bad. I absolutely, positively started out this most recent shift with a vendetta against you.

However, I followed that up with an iso of your posts. It reeks like a chicken farm on a hot day.

You:

Proven self-centered player who has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he values BEING right over DOING what is right. You, sir, would sell the town down the river just to prove a point, regardless of your alignment.

I have already OFFERED myself as a lynch to analyze those who would jump on my train...for the benefit of the village.

You.

Need.

To.

Die.

[The Goat]

Goat is a lurky fucking scumbag
WHERE THE HELL ARE T KAYAK BONE
WHERE THE HELL IS DESP
WHERE IS MY MOM

Also, your demented Lego head makes me chuckle.

[The Goat]

Yeah, I'll go there.

vote Zephyr.

[The Goat]

That caption is fantastic
Reminder to ISO for crumbs.

GOAT
Why are you going there?

Quite honestly, I don't remember. I will search back some time this weekend.

[The Goat]

Hi...I'm completely lost, but will answer any questions and try to reread.

IJ, if you're scum, well done.

[The Goat]

Short version: They're the lowest on my list of suspects.

[The Goat]

vote 14.5

[The Goat]

unvote
vote: the goat

nope. not cutting it.

What is it you WANT?

Could you please, for the sake of my sanity, actually ask me a QUESTION that you want answered?

[The Goat]

Seriously. "Hey Goat boy...why won't you interact with us?"

The mollie part of this hydra I find entertaining in a "somewhat hot in a completely psychotic way" sense.

I've completely lost track of this game. I am sorry for that. 14.5 is the best scum read I have.

Oh, and by the way...I was on Aronis, too.

[The Goat]

Yeesh.

Yeah, I was useless. Sorry, but well=played, scum.