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Vote: UntrodTripod

hey

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Targets you in any way?

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I think jester is a bit risky, the odds of there being a day kill mechanic in this game are really high.

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Bulz means scummy otherwise his vote would be different.

UT votes make the most sense to me right now but with this many people in a bastard game, I am sure something else stupid will happen IE another dumb claim or a day kill or whatever.

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Redirectors/Busdriver/Trolls.... ect

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I want to vote the survivor claim because it's probably not a survivor!

Bit of a reach yeah? Mafia claiming survivor day 1

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@Wisdom: He could be telling the truth, which is why we should lynch it and not leave the possibility of a cult open.

No, we shouldn't. Whoever believes him can just refrain from targetting him.

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I don't believe this is a valid strategy. We have no idea what powers are out there and it being a Bastard game makes it all the more likely that their is switcharoo shenanigans. From a design standpoint, why make a role that has a negative target effect if there isn't other roles to screw with targeting?

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Why isn't anyone commenting on the fact that my claim contradicts Skitty's claim?

Because you didn't claim. You said your role may contradict the survivors roles which means nothing really.

I am against lynching the survivor and would prefer a vig shot on him. Claiming survivor day 1 isn't very smart so I am not sure what the underlying motive there is.

EDIT: Unless the meta read on NS is true.

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Yes I see the claim now, sorry I missed it.

Two survivors doesn't surprise me but yet again, claiming to eliminate another survivor is just plain bizarre.

@Skitty- Do you win with everyone or just mafia/town?

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I should rephrase: Claiming survivor to eliminate ANYONE unless it is lylo will likely just get yourself eliminated.

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Then I have no intentions of voting either claimed survivors but will shoot one/both of them if I am a vig.

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http://media1.giphy.com/media/11eLop46YoPUSA/200.gif

Pretty much sums up Bulz-Wiz


Again, we should vote someone that needs to be lynched. The survivors can be shot.

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Hey Wis, just curious

Say by some miracle I'm actually a survivor

who is scum on my wagon

Very poor question considering there really isn't much of a wagon right now. I mean, how many people have even posted so far that are in this game?

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What the fuck are you dumbasses even arguing about. Fucking lynch me

SOMEONE is dumb enough to target me tonight. We do NOT need to introduce a cult to the game

What I dislike is that he's making no attempts to scumhunt. It's acceptable not to want to lynch others, not trying to find scum before he gets lynched isn't.

But that just further proves that all he cares about is being lynched, because he gains some kind of benefit from it (or just wins)

Or apathy. If I was given the role UT described, I wouldn't give two shits about this game. I would rather just die and get it over with then play something else.

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Be back in an hour or two. Would love to have a vote count by then.

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Also there's certain people I want to post who aren't posting and it makes me sad

Like who?

I know its hard when you're gonna die soon but you're also basically confirmed town thanks to imminent death and thus am in a pretty fantastic position to get shit done.

confirmed town aren't always the most useful players?

Because they start to slack off. Certain players (Myself included) tend to fight harder on being town then actually scum hunting. A fault of mine. So when they are confirmed town, there is just less desire to do anything.

droog is town guys

Sure but I wish he wouldn't nag so much.

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Why did the UT votes stop?

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Looks like AA is one of those people I will just have to ignore for now.

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why not? People do that for me.

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Spoiler: Walls are bad

well I claimed because I can.

and I dont know. not to be totally freaking ignored maybe?a few people have been ignoring my posts completely as if im not there. and I dont see my claim bad at any way. it works wifom for the scum team so they get in a state of weither to nk me or not since I am kinda a pr. either way its a win/win situation. if I am not killed then I am assentially an ic alright and if I am, my death aint so bad.

Don't post so fast... proofreading is your friend. Also, whine more. Your claim does nothing for anybody right now and I have no idea why you even bothered.

And yeah if there's a cult running around let's kill them first

Town and scum should sign a peace treaty to eliminate the cult at it's roots

Imagine if cult recruits a scum member, then that guy outs the whole scumteam GG

We will know in greater detail the likelyhood of there being a cult once UT is lynched. If his role is honest, there could very well be another cult mechanic in the game. Town/Scum teaming up is not likely going to be a thing though....

Holy cwap
Game 'sploded
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Welcome to the jungle.

Or, he's lying and is an anti town role that wants to be lynched. Either way, lynching him seems bad.

Agreed and I don't get why people are voting him so easily. It feels like an obvious trap.

But how bad can it possibly be? Worse case scenario, he is a jester that ends the game and he wins. Honestly, I would rather just get that out of the way now because those mechanics in games aren't fun to run across later. Not to mention, I would rather lose against that then losing against a cult. Other options include him being a bomb of some sort but who cares? It would be a 1 for 1 which always goes in towns favor. Sorry... 2v1 with nightkill but still worth.

How about we designate someone scummy to target UT, then lynch that person and see if they are cult?

I would argue the flaws here but I see that was already taken care of.

well nonetheless I believe if UT was town he would have lied about his claim in some way to pervent town from targeting him

Huh.

PGOs exist.

PGOs are not negative utilities either. They still hurt everyone but don't create an alternate faction which is so very bad for town.

Because I totally would listen to coaching from shos, bro

You're right

Whether or not you'd listen to coaching has nothing to do with it being given in the first place.

This is true. Shos could have been considered coaching there. Not worth my vote right now but I like the argument in a way. If Skitty flips scum, the argument is even better.

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It's why you should never claim Survivor. Your word means nothing when in lylo, survivor is essentially another mafia member at worst or a kingmaker at best. There is no reason to let the role live till end game which means you can not win.

Lesson learned I hope.

Also I think Purple Goo is just flavor text for Black Goo.

Vote: Skitty

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I don't even know where the hate for me is coming from. Overplaying what? I have yet to try and take credit for anything. I just vote what makes the most sense right now.

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Nope just voting Skitty cause survivor.

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Said I liked the argument, didn't say I thought both were scum.

Can't coach if both parties aren't scum.

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So I had a long day at work today and will likely have a long week. I was able to read up on what happened on my phone but I don't really care for phone posting.

I saw the feud between the hydras and didn't particularly care one way or the other about it. I read about a page and a half before just skimming through the rest until I reached something game relevant. That all seemed like something I would see in GD.

The skit debate seems like a hot topic right now which makes sense I guess. That slot is the target for todays lynch. I am too simple to care about the reasonings why Skit did what he (they) did or who is scum with them or how should we kill them, yada yada. I just know that Skitty is probably a survivor, maybe scum but definitely not town. I wouldn't mind using my lynch on that.

Holler if ya need me.

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Err not sure I am caught up yet but the past few pages apparently have been about Skitty fake claiming survivor to reaction test Goat who they now consider scum?

I would be hesitant to believe that but apparently WOH already saw it coming. How so?

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Seems this isn't happening. I'll try to place a vote later if work slows down. I remember thinking GGG was a valid option but if people are putting pressure on Tip, maybe I should reread his iso.

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Arc Angel is scum.

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Vote: AA

Hey, I am voting you know Arcscum. What do you have to say about it?

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Because UT had died.

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The intention for "we should vote someone that needs to be lynched" was directed at UT who we couldn't allow to be night vigged. Our only optoin was lynching him or day viging him. Survivors can be killed in many other ways.

Now that the day vig took out the only person I felt we "had" to lynch, I am ok with pushing on other anti-town.

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But you won't because I have the power of friendship on my side.

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I got distracted by aa omgusing everyone.

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I agree arc is town but i also confirmed that nothing she says is worth anything.

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You sure cause it just seems like she pushes on anyone that talks bad about her.

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But you did respond saying i was helping my buddy which it's accusing me of being scum.

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Myself. I am declaring it anti-town to continue 1v1s due to the negative impact it has on scumhunting for town. This is completely serious. Continued posting is tantamount to a scum claim for making town's job extra convoluted.

then you should vote me because im not going to stop

Esp post pretty much concludes what I was feeling as of that point. You saying just vote me makes me care even less about what you have to say.

He's scum and so is winter

ggg and tiph are lynchbait

Lets keep this on record so that MS and Wis can finally determine who is a better scum hunter. We just need a couple definite reads from MS now to compare.

Vote: TD

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Deathnote is scum as well

Can I include that in your list of reads?

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look at deathnote trying to encourage my 1v1 with ms further

No I just don't like your attitude and would love to see you lose.

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or, more likely, you're scum and I'm on to your buddies

gl misrepping me

Oh the irony

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AA9 thinks I am scum! I should rage and say only scum think I am scum.

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AA9 thinks I am scum! I should rage and say only scum think I am scum.

so do something productive and change my opinion. Feel responsible. I see only handful of people are being productive...

I was mocking you in case you didn't see that.

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I don't need to post my thoughts and reads, I just need to pay attention.

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Sorry I didn't read what you posted yet. I just got home and not 100%. Boozy

I just noticed what was above me and responded to it... if you quote maybe i will help ouot?

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Hmm... I like the Bulz case now. I also didn't like it that he called me town when I am being scumread by so many people just because I called Arc Scum.

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Vote: Bulbazak

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So I am going to just nip this in the bud right now. I figured eventually I would have to make a blanket statement like this just because I am not the strongest town player but it's a shame I feel obligated to do it so early. I just don't want a lynch on me to steamroll and waste time when there are better things to be doing.

Town will NOT be lynching me. It just isn't going to happen and I am mostly throwing this at MS since he is the loudest of the bunch and loud people attract sheep. You will not lynch me. I am town and I can prove it but would prefer not to have to say anything else on that matter. The thing I love most about being town is that I don't feel as obligated to defend myself so either you guys believe me or you don't and push a wasteful lynch. This is the first and last time I will defend myself but I feel confident enough that you guys won't be silly enough to push this further.


Anyways... whats wrong with Nachos case on Bulz? I mean, you see where I am coming from when I say he town read me right? It comes off as rather scummy to me when someone tries to buddy for votes.

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Good man Nacho.

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I don't have a role that will mod confirm me as town.

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Yes and my play is not bad, it just isn't as spammy as yours.

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Merry Christmas to those who care. Sorry I have been absent past few days, lots of family stuff to do.

Will be back around in a couple days.

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yay back home. I see a growing wagon on skitty again. Not sure why that got sparked since I thought we went down that road. Settling back in and will read a bit later today.

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GIVE ME AN OPTION I LIKE.

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if I were pie and if this were a f2f game, now would be the time to self-vote

This made me laugh.

Bulba is just a perfect lynch because I will never be able to read him and it just gives information about tons of people, which we badly need in this gamestate.

Think about all the other possible lynches and what they give us. Nothing comes even close to bulba.

Are you not concerned about the possibility of pulling out another mason claim?

I would still love to have aa9 dead today, who would be up for that instead of skitty?

Need to do a quick reread on TD but if he has more posts like this, I would be down to switch to TD.

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Spoiler: TD's Questions

I would still love to have aa9 dead today, who would be up for that instead of skitty?

Where the fuck did this broseidon wagon come from?

When death note flips scum will you help me lynch AA or skitty tomorrow?

So, just for reference, when skitty flips scum we are speedlynching johou for that BS fake dayvig, right?

Sonic/AA/Skitty This game is easy.

Jou, reads town, just super derpy.

TWOH is town.

Is shos usually this drunk-sounding?

So I only count five which isn't as bad as I thought but all of these quotes are scummy to me. They are what a scum player says when seeking town approval like... testing the waters. "Is this a town move?" "Hey town, can we do this?"

Then again, the TD wagon did drop off for a reason so if someone points that out to me, that would be great.

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Vote: TiphaineDeath

I think this is a good day 1 lynch given the claims.

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this whole MASON claim thing.. Am not sure if I want to believe it.

Wisdom/Nacho - Do you guy buy this shit?

In the meanwhile.. lets lynch the most worthless...

VOTE: TD

Since there is so much meta being thrown around, I want to know if people still think this is a town Arc post.

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I want to know if people still think

funny, you're doing what you accused td of doing

Point being it's not alignment indicative

The difference being I am not seeking town approval nor am I phrasing it as a question.

I consider it to be alignment indicative because as scum I know that I will ask questions more then I give opinions because taking a stance usually hurts me or my team mates. This probably isn't the same for everyone but I still FoS people who do so excessively.

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vote: Skitty

See you guys day 2.

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No one wants to hear you talking shit. No one wants to hear anyone talk shit... Ever.

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Nope, the whole player list is annoyed at you just as they are annoyed at MS for spamming.

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I have a bomb, just FYI.

It is a daykill mechanic supposedly but the fact it is called "bomb" kinda scares me. So if I randomly die today, thats why.

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I would be ok with starting a TD or Ooba wagon. After reading Ooba's iso, I don't see much commitment.

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Yeah... I saw that lol.

It is a daykill, I just also know this is a bastard game and the item is called a "bomb". Just makes me a little nervous

I am not using it yet but I will once I here enough of peoples thoughts.

Vote: TD

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and I am going to be honest, at this point with mine and nacho's meta I wld trust my own meta on nacho over mod info in a bastard game. we went over the 2 games in like over 50 where I stumbled in my read on him, both times he was in a hydra. in too many heads he voted me and within a couple of hours i was at L1. he said he was obvsly joking and I said well the people who sheeped you didn't think so! I need to talk to tammy about this cos nacho has never ever hard defended me in a game where he was scum he usually just abandons me to die but tbf I do the same thing to him when i am scum and hope no1 notices.

I... Uhhh... Idk how to respond since this is ... hard to understnad imho

nacho and I have heavy meta outside of ms. in a recent mr game majiffy had a guilty on nacho and yes I was scum in that game but my team was paranoid that he was the sk and I said no, majiffy is bluffing nacho is OBVTOWN and he was! turned out 1 of majffy's rambo night actions was insane cop. point is, nacho was town and I knew it.

if you don't understand this then you are playing the game on a surface level which is probably why you keep getting lynched which is very frustrating when you are on my team!

Translation.

FKN NOOB SCRUBS RUINING MY GAMES!!!!

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but iirc bro and DN are scum too, and someone else too but I can't remember

which prolly is zzzx judging from this

I looked through his ISO and noticed this too. I just am never sure about reads like this though....

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I probably wont be wasting the kill on AA9. I am still open to here peoples thoughts on who is a good vig target though. If I really can't decide, I am ok with vigging the claim survivor just so I know I am hitting something not town.

I would use it on TD but I feel like we are going to end up lynching him.

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I'm not negotiating with you, I'm informing DN because i'd rather he not die.

This could mean so many different things but for now I take it as a threat and I don't like threats.

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I have a bomb, just FYI.

It is a daykill mechanic supposedly but the fact it is called "bomb" kinda scares me. So if I randomly die today, thats why.

Is it your bomb or was it given to you?

It was given to me.

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The bomb was given to me today and It is a "daykill" according to the mod. I was simply stating that it is called a bomb and this is a bastard game so I worry it could have a hidden trigger to it or something that will kill me as well or blow up if I don't use it, who knows.

I will use it regardless, but if I die- thats the reason.

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Lol sorry Dram, I don't really want to use it yet. I will before a lynch is reached, promise.

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Vote: ZZK

I am not using the vig yet. It's just that yesterday there was a dayvig too so I was hoping to see what happened there. If nothing happens soon, then I guess I will go first.

Intention is to dayvig TD if he wants to claim.

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DN what did you think about shooting the elric brothers slot?

Sure? There are lots of valid targets imo but why would they be any better then TD?

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@TD- You should claim soon.

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Re-reading. The "execute" kill wasn't my bomb.

I guess TD isn't a good vig choice anymore... I don't know. I believe the claim at least I just don't know if it is 100% a town role. BTW, there is no possible way we have aliens/wolves/mafia/survivor/possible cult. That just isn't realistic even for bastard so we should probably stop talking about wolves being a 3rd faction.

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I honestly don't want to kill Keyblade yet. I understand it is the safest kill as its a 3rd party role but we also have two effective day killing roles (1 I am hoping is town?) I don't want to go for someone that isn't a threat. I don't believe Keyblade is an alien. Thats a reach and it doesn't make sense unless he has a treestump ability of some sort which I know is an alien role.

There are no wolves. Two people have claimed that aliens exist in the game which means Keyblade doesn't win with that faction assuming he is a survivor that only wins with town/mafia as he stated.

TD isn't really an option for me now.
TWOH is putting me on edge for whatever reason. I haven't liked his targets lately is mostly what it is. Why is Elric cult? Why would there be a cult leader with a black goo?
Ooba is who I am leaning dayviging at this point.

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Ooba is who I am leaning dayviging at this point.

That would be a massive mistake.

Idk man, you don't seem very into the game. I am reading you as reluctant scum right now.

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Ok so would you rather I bomb Adorkable?

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Ok so would you rather I bomb Adorkable?

Bond dramonic lol

I considered it for the luls but I wont

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Probably should have bombed GGG... oh well. There were lots of good target to choose from. Give the bomb to Goat next time, picking people is hard.

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Bombed Adorkable. You can claim if it matters.

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The other problem was me outing all the power roles. Like I literally could have just gone through the list outing roles one by one and I didn't want to do that.

Ehh, you still dont have proof that Elric is a cult leader but we can def push his lynch now and force a claim.

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And with this many targeted power roles, I just have a hard time believing there is a cult AND a black goo plus the aliens/mafia/survivor like holy shit thats a lot of crap.

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Seriously? That's your reason?

I would be surprised if anyone in this game WASN'T power.

Yeah and I would like to not just out them all. Like someone is going to be lying about their role so what they claim at this point is irrelevant. I realized that after TD claimed alien cop. You would have claimed what you did and I would have been "ok move onto the next power role".

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He really dragged that out.

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And I am not defending Elric as much as I am attacking the concept of a cult leader in this game.

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Ok I will buy there being a cult leader if there aren't any aliens.

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I do agree that his push on Elric seemed genuine as if he knew Elric would likely be anti-town (cult leader). He probably was going to take credit for that as much as he could.

I can role with an Elric lynch I just wanted it known that our current setup speculation isn't that great. Something feels really off but I guess we wont know until Elric is gone.

Vote: Elric

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Ya going to help kill the cult leader MS? Won't you lose?

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So basically... I am going to die tonight or be culted

I want to see what TWOH has to say about all of this.

EDIT: Scum most definitely know the correct result assuming he was lying.

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Yeah as I was reading that post, I just rolled my eyes. You mean we are discussing the possibility of Elric being a doc/cult but you don't want to out the doc if he isn't cult?

Nah... he is going to claim doc no matter what at this point anyways.

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I don't mind winning with Cult.

HEY CULT!!! PICK ME!!!!

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So since I am not more town then MS, can I get the protection? Just saying

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dunno maybe you thought it'd be taken better from you than from him for some reason

maybe he wanted to avoid claiming

maybe {any number of scum reasons we don't know about}

I'm better with daytalk than you're giving me credit for. If I were his buddy, I'd just have him push it and hide behind his tracker role.

Given. But you would never have anticipated the shutdown of daytalk THEN the nuke on dork.

I actually told Ray I thought Zzzx could be an encryptor a few days before he was shot.

How would you even know that? There is no way to really leak out that you are an encryptor with your play unless he soft claimed it somewhere.

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Get that claim first

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It was hard to tell Southern as scum cause Tammy. I feel like with just Mollie, I might have seen that coming.

Also, was SB double shot? Or what?

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And if not, im still an inventor giving out shit to mostly conftown.
I really hope the executioner is smarter than you clowns -_-

Ok I didn't want to read the four pages but why did you claim?

I mean, sure saying you are the inventor is no big deal because it was pretty obvious from yesterday. Saying what you gave me though, that kinda bums me out.

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Yes I have a rolecop, we shouldn't kill Dram.

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I prefer to not use the role cop on dram and i won't be apart of his lynch. I am going to church but have reread. Will be back later.

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My logic, which may be dumb- not sure yet, is that dram is an inventor that is giving pro-town items to town players. If we lynch him, that stops happening. If we reveal his role, that also might result in him dying or being revealed as scum and no longer needing to help town. I just rather him stay there regardless of his alignment right now. Once the gifts stop coming, then I will happily test that guilty. With that said, don't give me another item please. I don't want scum to assume I will get it and kill me. That would be a waste.

There is also the reasoning that I think Dram is town. I believe his inventor claim based on his knowledge of the items before hand. I also don't think a scum inventor would give investigative roles to town. They probably shouldn't give dayvigs to town either considering I used that dayvig to kill scum. Maybe he is a third party inventor?

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I have a rolecop target in mind so I will let you guys know the result soon.

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Key seems like an Epic Mafia player. In that game, Masons pick other people to join the masonhood like reverse cult.

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Also why are you suddenly posting actively when being put under pressure by one person when you have been complaining all game about posting rates and how you don't want to engage until shit quietens down.

You could have been ignoring me, everyone else has. It seems to be the general way of dealing with me in large games until people realise I fucking catch scum all the time and no one listens.

You are exhibiting behaviour which is not pro town or even indicative of any town motivation at all.

No offense Esp as I have you leaning town, but this was a bad post. You started raging from this point on and it looks bad on you especially since Droog wasn't being as trolly/apathetic as you were claiming. It was more like your case against him wasn't that great because you couldn't explain why his SK comment was scummy.

Don't let him get to you like that if you want your case to be take seriously.

I role copped already. Results are irrelevant but I will reveal at the end of the day just so the info doesn't die with me. It won't effect anyones lynch choice, promise.

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So I find it interesting that cult was a huge concern but is slowly drifting into "meh, there probably isn't a cult." I know I was one of the first to say that but seeing everyone else say it worries me ever so slightly.

Mostly just a point of observation.

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We have a daykiller right? Where is that shot?

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I wouldn't mind the Survivor getting dayvigged/executed, just throwing that out there.

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do you think kbw is a better sniper than 99% of the rest of the game? maybe rival to deathnote? i think not.

Not sure if Insluted.

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I want to vote TD but I also kinda wish I copped him instead to confirm the existence of Alien. Well... I guess it would only confirm his role which doesn't mean much in a bastard game. I could see a useless role like that being put in just to throw us off.

I think TWOH could potentially be anti-town. I don't think I want to lynch GGG today nor will I lynch Dramonic.

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I agree that Droog has a strong chance of being a third party but I also thought his play was town most of the game. Yes, even when he was less active. I have probably just been ignoring him too much. ISO time I guess....

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Kise, can we get an updated vote count? Thanks

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Not really sure who to vote in this situation.

I guess.... i will follow the masons?

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Vote: Winter Skies

I see that as more town driven then Droog

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VOTE: WS

Would prefer Droog or KBW, but those aren't moving :/

The wagons were even when you voted. Even between Droog and WS that is.

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Vote: Winter Skies

I see that as more town driven then Droog

Were losing steam here.

vote:winter skies

Instead of just sheeping the wagon, I'd love to know why you're voting my slot. And if you're going to just reference the case MS made on me, I'd love to know what about it you agree with and would like you to respond to my defense of it. Because all I see is "I'm going to hide behind this wagon because mental somnics claimed mason."

No that is pretty much why I am voting you. I picked the wagon that had the most players on it that I thought were town and went with it. #NotAshamed

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Ehh scumhunting is really freaking hard. If I have a gun, I will just kill who I think is likely mafia but if I have to make a case and actually vote people, then I falter and wouldn't know where to begin.

Example, I wouldn't mind shooting TWOH just to see. Will I vote him? Probably not.

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Guess I should have saved that role cop :/

So I picked Dramonic with the cop ability and it fizzled out. You can discuss but based on the flavor, I don't think I am allowed to target him with his own inventions.

I am down with letting WS live.

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and if youre town it means the day killer is prolly sk then

or, both kills are town and there's cult. having a lot of kills makes sense as countermeasure to cult.

This is disturbing...

I can see there being a cult now.

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Something to note- Daykiller has only killed leading wagons? All three kills have been on players who have wagons on them. At first I thought maybe it was just a compulsive thing in which people died if they reached a certain number, but that theory doesn't work when comparing WS and Droog who were both leading wagons.

Some people have ways to confirm their role so we can PoE cult down a bit if it is needed. My role is easily confirmable so I won't be culted. WS role is pretty much confirmable.

The Masons are not. The cop roles are not. Dramonic is so long as his target doesn't die.

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If you don't lose your ability when you get culted, thats dumb. My ability in particular would be gross for Cult to have but whatever for town.

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Guess I should have saved that role cop :/

So I picked Dramonic with the cop ability and it fizzled out. You can discuss but based on the flavor, I don't think I am allowed to target him with his own inventions.

My inventions dont always work as intended. :/

Vote: KBW

I guess thats an option too.

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Vote: Keyblade

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I would rather just eliminate KBW, we know the role isn't town and he is just annoying me at this point.

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I don't care what you have to say because I can't trust what you have to say. Just eliminate him already.

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Gunsmith? errr.... I thought Dramonic was the inventor/gunsmith?

Also I lied about my rolecop. It wasn't a day action but I didn't want to be killed while I had it. I used it last night on TD and he is a Martian...of the Mars People. I don't think that is an alien cop... sounds more like straight up alien to me. :/

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I am Godot. Some person from that detective game.

I have a governor ability that either ends that can end the day phase if I use it. I can also use it as often as I like during a day meaning I can essentially choose who we lynch today. Or rather... put myself in a 1v1 situation with that person by pardoning everyone else. I can't pardon the same person two days in a row.

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Popcorn... err Peregrine? Idk who hasn't claimed?

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Mine is easily provable though so I wasn't particularly concerned with being eliminated for it. There is no way Scum would have a role like mine... it is just too strong.

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I would have to disagree with a lynch :/

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I don't feel like explaining. There is nothing complicated about it.

I just pardoned MS/Bulb so just wait for Mod confirmation.

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No, I didn't end the day. I can though.

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Yeah, I can pardon the whole town for this day phase and get myself lynched if I wanted. I can't pardon someone twice though. I am not the best governor but I am probably better then someone like AA who will just force the town to lynch her reads without giving a shit.

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Yeah I don't think scum can consider me much of a threat, even knowing my role now. There are better players than me and my reads typically suck or are non-existent.

That said, I wouldn't start committing items to me because that is reason enough to kill me.

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So you are wanting to risk that you can roleblock mafia correctly? You have two blocks, sure but if you pick wrong, we lose two town all for the sake that the cop results give us something to work with.

Ehh...

We don't even know if we can trust that you have a roleblock so if both the cops die, you can just shrug and say sorry while attempting to clear the players you roleblocked. It is putting too much into your hands that I would rather not deal with. Now if people honestly believe that Peregrine is scum, then lets kill him. I would rather not lynch him just for his ability though. If the executioner is indeed town, killing Peregrine would be much better the using a lynch on him because then we would at least KNOW that we are about to have double night actions.

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Man... My power would be so strong in the hands of a competent player. Like... I can't decide if I am ok with lynching PeregrineV or not. My biggest issue is committing to reads because I am always afraid of being wrong so I just don't say anything or use my ability.

I guess... I still feel apprehensive about TD/TWOH the most. Dramonic is iffy for me because I don't like being buddied and thats what I feel is happening there but I also feel I need to give him the benefit of the doubt right now just because of his actions this game.

I can't really say that TD is scum without pointing fingers at GGG though. These are the thoughts that cross my mind lol

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TD-GGG I suppose.

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Is there anyone that thinks I am not town? Asking for reasons

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Dram/TWOH both think I am town.

Ok then I will go ahead and claim this little tidbit that I was unsure about revealing.

I am also the executioner. I can execute players if they have reached half the required votes and choose to end the day or continue it. To me, that is really strong having both those abilities. I am only claiming because I don't want people to make assumptions based off the kills. Esp might be scum, I can see that but he isn't scum because I didn't kill him over Peregrine. I decided to kill peregrine because if we were just going to evict him for his ability, I would rather eliminate him that way then waste our lynch.

Actually... most of my kills, aside for the daykill, were used to give town 2 lynches. I suppose I could have tried to target people specifically with my governor ability in conjunction with it, but I wasn't confident enough in being able to pull that off.

Vote: GGG

I think he has been the most opertunistic of the three TD/GGG/Esp. TD is now my second choice in an eviction. Still cautious about TWOH.

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Oh right, I'll have one of those. I'll just block TD more then likely.

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unvote

TD what do you expect to gain by targeting TWOH again? I am assuming your result said Father but why would results change if you targeted him again unless it was a sanity problem?

DN,

Why didnt you disclose you were the executioner earlier?

By claiming now you just ensure you die tonight with the benefit only being a slightly more informed lynch today. With two cops and a roleblocker you likely would have been safe.

The executioner wasn't appearing to be town to everyone else and I figured I could get away with just claiming the governor as a legit role. However, I saw that we had a doc protect plus two mason cops that will likely die before me. There is just so much that is going to go on tonight... I honestly wouldn't mind being killed off compared to some players who can actually preform actions.

Assuming 3 roleblocks plus a doc protect plus 4 cop results, there should be some good info coming at us and I am one of the few players who doesn't contribute to those results (Minus the possible item roleblock from Dram)

My claiming just makes sure town is set on the right path with evictions instead of hunting for an executioner.

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Thats a first haha.

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@bro- can you protect between the two Masons please? Just in case you were considering protecting me or anyone else, I wanted to make sure you protected the players who can help town out the most, even if their results are not confirmed sanity wise yet.

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They actually have night actions that can be helpful where as I "might" have a roleblock from you.

GGG/TD are scummier to me then Esp.

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TWOH dying would hurt if he flipped town roleblocker but lets be honest... there is too much doubt about TWOHs role for me to care if he dies.

#5336 is a post. I am trying to decide what the mindset there is. So Esp thinks that a roleblocker is the best investigation role we have meaning only 1 scum left which is an interesting assumption. On the other hand, he could be stating that roleblocker is simply more reliable then our cops who sanities haven't been proven where as we know for sure there is a roleblocker. Esp, what was your thinking when you decided that TWOH was the most valuable investigator? I read the whole exchange about 3rd party wifom but what was the specific reasoning for that post?

I also have been thinking about something that bothers me. Mafia had I bulletproof member yet the primary killing roles were mafia and a strongman vig. What was the bulletproof for? The one daykill town got from an inventor who could have died early on? Would the bulletproof work against executions? Basically I am just worried as to why we don't have another killing role. I guess we could just throw it off as Bastard like everything else....

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Trust them or trust their results? Because I trust them more then I trust TWOH.

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I don't see how we can "find that out" but I don't intend on lynching them either.