Nightingale's Tale - [Game Over]

[notscience]

claim masons with bork

[notscience]

You guys are jerks

Oops I did it again

[notscience]

I'm pretty sure all of our entrances into this world are forced

BA dum tss

[notscience]

Yes she is changing playstyles

[notscience]

Yes she is changing playstyles

Why?

Actually maybe not why, but why a 180 degree turn?

It's her business not mine

[notscience]

hi

[notscience]

I still think mollie was scum that game

[notscience]

I dont even remember why I just remember that I was adamant she was scum

[notscience]

Yeah what the fuck was that shit

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btw

VOTE: gaiden

[notscience]

{Kagami, muffin, one of BS/notsci, ???}

I am very close solving this.

idk, You have two 9s in column 4

[notscience]

It hurt itself in its confusion!

[notscience]

If there's one scum in the Red Gyarados hydra, I vote Notty.

[notscience]

You won't like me when I'm angry

[notscience]

I think Laladucks ccing gaiden means lala town

[notscience]

Fuck thats a good question

[notscience]

let me get back to you on that

[notscience]

because muffin said it's scummy

/duh/

[notscience]

I agree, nacho's posts on this page are scummy as fuck

[notscience]

ill be here and serious tomorrow

[notscience]

Hi.

[notscience]

Hi.

High.

Who's scum, duckie?

[notscience]

VOTE: notscience

Wagon ho?

Oh yeah.

Definitely.

[notscience]

derp copied the wrong thing

I wasn't talking to you, and I wasn't talking about giving approval. in fact, I'm not even opposing it. what is that all about?

Town. This is town skepticism, whereas scum would have just jumped down sakura's throat for that post or just laughed it off.

And here I was hoping for a town win.

Fuck, I missed playing with brian

Your reads come so quickly and with no substance. You're a madman and I'm still happy with my vote.

Oh no, I've been discredited so quickly and with no substance.

Town.

Sshhh. I'm waiting until someone else votes BS so I can be the third voter of the wagon.

Also, FakeGod just slipped in a PM that our hood is 3 town 2 scum. lmao

Just so we're super clear, are you kidding here? Because that would pretty egregiously change the way I approach the game if you're not.

Of course I'm not kidding. FakeGod is a very clumsy mod. Tries to forget and clams up about all the game-breaking errors he's making left and right.

Cho scum trying to start a neighborhood purge early?

Who were defending sakura except for notsci?

I didn't really defend her, I just answered farside's question. You've seen me defending people before, why the slipup here?

Mostly I'm frustrated because instead of critically thinking about how I've been approaching the game so far you're pushing me for an imperfect push in a stage of the game where no one has actually formed anything even remotely solid

and you're pushing me despite the signals that say DO NOT PUSH which already are much much louder than they should be

I dont like this

this feels like ate

this feels like trying to make him feel stupid for trying to get a better read on yo

this feels like scum

Okay this is nacho town.

why

So notscience hasn't really impressed me at all and this is a pretty shit vote imo. Basically null leaning scum.

I acknowledge you have some issue with me

I also acknowledge you have not shared what this issue with me is considering I had barely got in the game at this point

----I think farside's agression towards kagami means town. Iirc fars was really fucking tunnelly in survivor, so much to the point she voted offwagons on TCs because she was so stubborn.

I would very much like to see more Nati.

why not me? Yes I had posts but I had like only 2 real game relevant ones

I think Nati, BS and non zz muffin need to post more

Time moving forward with him not doing anything is increasingly making me uncomfortable with him, yes, especially due to the presence other activity on site.

You did not want me posting here yesterday.

I think TM3: Mod Error is a great example of how my scumhunting style is effective and efficient at catching scum. Sho's action on pg4 confirmed him being scum, and everything he did thereafter was invalidated, though a lot of players failed to see that. LLD's play surrounding Shos (thought shos was scum, so voted me because apparently I was bussing?) invalidated the rest of her play because of this simple bit of scumlogic. Then Tiershift decided to claim scum too, so you had all 3 scum who were obv D1, and my entire team saw this too but the rest of the town was dumb but they saw it eventually so we still won.

I saw it too >_>

you think nacho and katsuki are scum together? why?

I like this question

Also why is no one talking about notscience

^

He's probably scum.

lol

VOTE: notscience

Wagon ho?

Oh yeah.

Definitely.

[notscience]

Right now I am leaning Kagami/Nacho/???? scumteam

[notscience]

Kagami/Nacho/CHo/???*

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VOTE: cho

The thing that bugs me is she had this earlier thing about how fakegod said there were 2 scum in her hood, blah blah blah, and I'm not in a hood with her but rather than follow this thing she feels adamant is true she places a vote on me without actually pressuring me any? It feels like just hopping on weak after bork because "oh town me should pressure him if hes not posting"

[notscience]

Spoiler: blah

[notscience]

Spoiler: blah

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[quote="In post 501, Cho"][/quote]

Spoiler: blah

[notscience]

Spoiler: blah

[notscience]

Also what's this about a neighborhood with 2 confirmed scum.

I was joking about that to try and blur the lines between what I said that was real and what I said that was a joke. Then I decided "fuck it I need to claim".

Btw notscience did you read this.

No.

UNVOTE:

Spoiler: blah

[notscience]

Spoiler: :(

[notscience]

hi notty i dont think youve gotten back to me on your name yet

ummm

melancholymath

p.s. If you think Nacho is scum notty, please vote the scumfuck with an actual wagon thanks.

Yeah I've been wondering about that.

I'm just vain

And I know I tend to get false positives on nacho a lot so

I'm behaving

this is just scumese for saying I dont want to bus

I expect more than just a fly-by comment from you.

Yeah I imagine just getting a fly-by comment is kinda frustrating.

Hi notscience!
How are you?
I'm good.
Your trolling was null to me and really I didn't have a desire to deal with it if it was going to continue. Glad to see a half decent post from you. As for my town read on nacho I was thinking of the last time nacho was scum in a game I was in and his play here is nothing like that.

See

I tend to default nacho to scum >_>

I also intend to actually be good at this game!

do you think the cho-nacho interactions look like scum-scum?

tbf I havent really paid them much attention so ill check later

even if cho didn't retract the whole "2 scum guaranteed in my neighbourhood" thing, i don't really see where she was 'adamant' about it?

also, what was the whole "masons with bork" thing about in the beginning of the game? because i've been assuming it was a noddy-bork-cho-someone-someone hood and that had something to do with pre-game neighbourhood stuff (though now that i'm thinking about it, that's probably impossible anyway given i just remembered fakegod doesn't open neighbourhoods pregame so whatever)

Her posts came accross that way to me

it might ust be the avatar

And the thing with bork dates back to a chat mafia game ages ago where we drew masons and fucked shit up and the running joke has been for a while that we need to /actually/ draw masons

Show me where I even intimated such a thing.

See what muffin said.

[notscience]

I think this game is moving towards a Day 1 massclaim.

I'm not claiming. My role is awesome and I'm keeping it under wraps.

OK vig me. I'd rather that than cooperate.

This is town

The first post reads too stupid/cocky to be scum

the second reads as defiant town

scum has no reason to be defiant here

so

[notscience]

The thing I like about alalalalalal is that she kinda just admits she has reads for shitty reasons and is just like 'so hwat are you going to do about it"

I guess it /could/ be cheeky scum but atm it feels like town

[notscience]

I'm a bit sad nacho didn't grace me with any comments

[notscience]

CHESSKID

[notscience]

what

[notscience]

that thing being obvtown?

[notscience]

[notscience]

Hi

[notscience]

town-you's sorting process is generally much more organic and has a stronger tendency to reach out instead of just bullshitting an attack.

This implies I'm in any mood to try and work with people.

While I'm on the subject, if sakura snipes at me one more time my vote is sitting on her until she dies.

[notscience]

Yes

no

[notscience]

VOTE: Sakura

[notscience]

That's nice.

[notscience]

Because I told her to stop and she didn't, and I'm not in the mood for this bullshit anymore.

Because my reads this game are entirely surface level? I'm in this space where I'm trying not to get emotionally attached to the game and it's making it difficult to actually /do/ things. Of course, this is entirely an excuse and will just be viewed as AtE, but frankly I have nothing really to say that isn't surface level. Yeah my reads are weak.

[notscience]

Here let me translate for you

TROLOLOLOL

SQUAWK HUEHEHUEUEHEHEUEHEHEUEUEHEUE SCUMBIRDS

[notscience]

so, instead of voting someone for a reason that isn't alignment indicative in anyway whatsoever, why not just sheep me?

Because she needs to stop?

[notscience]

Because I can't discuss her current behavior.

[notscience]

Nacho, she knows exactly what she's doing she just doesn't give a shit.

[notscience]

Spoiler: a picture of my readslist for muffin

[notscience]

Yes, yes I am.

[notscience]

Because I just love making more people yell at me.

[notscience]

Well, do you think that trying to get people to yell at me is something I would do as town or as scum?

[notscience]

I'll try to actually engage tomorrow.

I have no idea if it will actually work or not.

[notscience]

I think the only thing that can be garnered from it is he has yet to actually engage in this game and people are attributing that to him being scum

But I'm not an expert on the subject, so

[notscience]

oh btw most of the people voting me don't actually have a reason with their vote

k going to bed

[notscience]

I'm starting to get a bad feel about this

I'm going to behave.

But if a wagon's bullshit I'm still going to call it bullshit.

[notscience]

Hi guys

working on thoughts.

Wagon on me is stupid, etc etc.

[notscience]

I've been at work all day, don't even try that shit

I'm working on it right now if the site decides to behave

pdit-
No, I actually think you're likely town because cho is likely scum.

pedit-

It's me tryign to get into the fucking game but if you'd rather I can just sit on my ass twiddling my thumbs and let you guys mislynch me day 1, or are we going to drop the comments and let me do shit?

[notscience]

That I'm the only other likely deadline lyh he has any chance of pushing, and just based on charisma alone it doesnt look good for me so I'm trying to hash out these reads as fast as possible.

[notscience]

Sakura

I will tell you right now

the wagon of redemption is TTH

you will see everythign when I post it but its kinda astonishing when you look at cho's iso

[notscience]

So, I'm reading up from teh start again. EDIT: I am reading from the start then just going down isos when I see a post I am interested in

46

Cho

makes a point that she will be townblocking this game. I skimmed her iso, because I /do/ remember her being rather defensive of lala from my first readthrough, but upon rereading, I can't see a single reason why she's defending lala. Like, it just looks like whiteknighting and I can understand defending your townreads if you townbloc but there is no substance to this read, she just keeps asserting that lala is town while most of the playerlist is looking at lala funny. It looks like scum whiteknighting town. Like, she's nitpicking their arguments, saying that what they highlight isn't scum-motivated, but she's not sharing what could be town motivated in the iso either, for someone who has a supposedly strong townread on her.

There's also 266, where she ask's bork's opinion on her claim. I don't see why town-her would

care

let alone highlight a claim and ask if people believe it. It looks like scum testing the waters.

Look at her ISO, there is- Assertions that she's town because she is playing different than paradise lost; defending lala on the basis what they are pushing isn't a scumtell, without highlighting what is town about her; reaction gifs; a few votes out of nowhere with no telegraphing; and townreads on Sakura/farside/lala while not actually trying to work with any of them despite supposedly trying to townbloc.

So, Cho is scum.

Now,

Bork

. A lot of bork's early game was defending me against mac's accusation of being forced with that joke, and I like that I can actually follow his trajectory with regards to his reads. I liked reaching out to Nati, I like the constant reachouts and that he's willing to give Nacho space when asked (whereas scum-him has no incentive, he could just keep pushing nacho). I like his vote on me (wat) in that it was telegraphed. It wasn't like he was pushing someone and that got shut down hard, he called me out on not being productive and when I still continued he voted me and he has games to back up his stance.

He also keeps trying to make sure I don't just hide in the lurkmass, which shows more "town trying to pidgeonhole a scumread" instead of "scum trying to shove a lynch on a lurker"

Overall, I see a more town-oriented mindset.

I like

Brian

for town, simply given my knowledge of how he develops reads as town (granted this is the limited pieces I remember from talking to him as we hydra) but I remember he liked to develop his reads around a few core reads, and I can sort of see that here given his stance on me (where he notes that lalala voting nacho over me could be indicative of buddies). However, this is weak.

I'm not really sure regarding

GIF

because I am liking a lot of how he is behaving regarding sakura, because iirc in hope plus one he was trying to be the sense of reason almost, whereas scum him could just let her off the handle and let her go after everything. I don't really like how little I appear in his ISO, but there's not a ton. Iirc he was replaced by oversoul.

Oversoul has done some things, I'm not sure how I feel about the sudden deadline wagon attempt on Nati. Well, moreso, it makes me wonder if it's scum trying to get pressure off a buddy but that only makes sense if nacho is scum so I guess it means maybe town? I dont necessarily like how he went from "I wont just be that guy who keeps voting my scumread when we need a flip" to suddenly starting the wagon though.

Nullscum.

Lala

is likely town, I still found the early thing regarding gaiden having the same role townie (In the first two touhou games a large portion of my play was based around "town doesnt likely have two of the same roles" and I see the same here). I don't like the read flipping back to town on gaiden based on role, though, because it seems kinda counterintuitive. That being said, I think purely based on cho's whiteknighting that means lala town. I still like the way she approached a read on me, where she was like "it makes me want to townread him but" I think its more town indicative that shes willing to admit the lack of strength in the read. And I like how she's treating sakura, she's being very reaech out whichfeels more like town trying to work with someon and show them that they are wrong in the read rather than scum. Anyways Im halfway through her iso and am leaning more town and am losing daylight so town.

Gaiden

is town unless hes scum with sakura.

Nati

is leaning scum, purely for not doing anything, and the vote on me without any reasoning behind it looks like the best place for scum to jump on my wagon. Seriously, it just feels like she's trying to coast on "hehe I havent played in foreveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer!"

I perused

Grapes

' iso, but there isn't a ton there. The one thing that bugs me is not following up if he was actually curious on the reasonless townreads on lala, or trying to establish an opinion on those who are giving them or the victim of them. So null, but gun to the head nullscum.

I maintain my farside read from earlier, simply due to time.

Katsuki- Don't think hes scum with nacho, both could be town

Nacho- ^ but swap nacho for katsuki

muffin- push on me is weak as fuck, iirc there was something about deflecting but I dont have time to read his iso in depth anymore

ill do other isos later

(oh no i did that in pvz off with my head)

no but seriously

VOTE: tth

CHo's play was sketchy as fuck

[notscience]

I could go for nati

But the blood gods

the blood gods they scream for the blood of choslot

their thirst cannot be quenched

[notscience]

bring it on chucklefuck

[notscience]

I'd go and parse that then because you can shove that "okay with lynching noddy" right where the sun dont shine

[notscience]

It messes with the lala read some but otherwise it doenst do too much

But I really doubt a tth townflip.

It feels a lot like my defense of bins in PvZ.

[notscience]

Like, maybe she's scum but it'd moreso make her null than anything else at tis pont

[notscience]

CHOO CHOO

[notscience]

Scum lynch train's leaving the station, all aboard for your towncred!

[notscience]

Also I admittedly had done that whole portion then saw the fake mason claim and it made me go "fuck that makes sense" but tth negating that claim makes me think it was scum-cho trying to tie lala down iwth her if she ever got caught, planning the masons claim from the getgo

[notscience]

That sure is a vote on someone who joined your wagon!

[notscience]

That would be a neat role to have in a game though I must say

[notscience]

Yeah cho being scum would make me feel a lot better about the rest of that hood, primarily for the earlier post about having two scum in that hood

pedit-

I think I answered his questions

[notscience]

Also, it's not normal for nati but I think its the first game shes had in a while, and I remember how I Was when I first came back from a hiatus so I could kinda twist my head and see how it could be from town but I am leaning more scum

[notscience]

Also I'm not sure I see bork's issue with that hood

[notscience]

ANYTHING NOT KILLING WHAT IM KILLING BECOMES WHAT IM KILLING

[notscience]

Actually you responded but didn't really anwser one of the question zzmuffin asked

This was to NS by the way

I felt I addressed both. I didn't highlight exactquotes no, but

[notscience]

OH

The cho/nacho thing

I thought you meant the other two points

[notscience]

yeah what the fuck

[notscience]

Nacho treating my claim as if it's 100% guaranteed true is kind of... lol.

VOTE: Nacho

Normally I'd be squicked by the wagon speed, but I just tried that tactic to qualify my reads as scum, so I'll force myself not to be.

I mean, this is exactly how I pushed the Kats-ML through in Paradise Lost though.

When it comes to him I just don't really wanna deal.

But yeah thinking about it again I don't think Nacho-scum would be this upfront/in-your-face/blatant/whatever wrt my claim.

UNVOTE:

PEDIT VOTE: Gaiden

Btw this is the only two real mentions of nacho in cho's iso

It looks kinda like a really weak bus attempt and then cho was like "fuck I dont need to bus"

[notscience]

muffin I am still waiting for you to parse my wall

I am on the edge of my seat

desparate for your townread

[notscience]

Why is zzmuffin scum reading NS?

who is this directed to

[notscience]

As much as I love htis whole back and forth

It's detracting from my TTH wagon so lets talk about why we are/aren't joining it.

[notscience]

farside I want thoughts on cho at your earliest convenience

pedit-

SAKURA

STAY STRONG

[notscience]

That is quite the vote there grapes

I can clearly see your thought process and how you came to your (incorrect) conclusion.

pedit-

What do you think of what I brought up in my wall regarding cho

[notscience]

Like I could be off a cliff but I don't see you ever really explaining that read in your iso (granted I ctrl+f'd cho and there are 100+ results but you are tunneling on naCHO so its not really a surprise) but youve had cho in townreads for a while

[notscience]

Hey muffin

I'm not just talking to here the melodious sound of my own voice

I want your thoughts on my wall, namely cho

[notscience]

Both of them are doing it, and it's rather boring

Also I want to talk to brian.

pedit-

read through it faster

[notscience]

Both of them are doing it, and it's rather boring

Also I want to talk to brian.

pedit-

read through it faster

I'm waiting for TTH. I told you my thoughts on cho

You said you thought cho was town but I asked for some meat

[notscience]

clearly it is she who has omgused you

[notscience]

Yeah, this is scum caught for something thats not their fault

Book 'em, jim

[notscience]

Yeah, this is scum caught for something thats not their fault

Book 'em, jim

You're really bad.

You're really scum trying to throw shit and se what sticks.

NS and lala, you can talk to me, what am I missing here.
I was fighting with zzmuff and lost my mind around a certain point.
And it's 11:30 at night and I should be sleeping

I just don't really see what was so /town/ about cho's ISO.

And TTH is giving me a lot of "caught for someone elses fault" feels

[notscience]

It's not based on your vote, it's based on what you're saying.

[notscience]

Simmer down

[notscience]

Except that's not what she is saying at all?

She was saying that she is open to hearing my points about you and agreed with them, which yu are trying to paint as partial omgus (hint: its part of your "throwing shit to see what sticks)

[notscience]

Her defense of lala didn't consist of explaining why lala was town

It consisted of explaining why the stances being used to push lala werent alignment indicative.

But if she was adamantly townreading lala all game wouldnt she have some reasons why lala is town?

[notscience]

Like cho claimed masons with lala

But cant give reasons why lala is such a strong townread?

Doesn't that read as weird, especially given how that is like the biggest fraction of her iso?

[notscience]

lala

chill

seriously

pedit-

Because she's seen the light, Sakura

pedit-

I'm trying to work with you here. Look, if someone's pissing you off, just ignore them.

Get some time to simmer down.

pedit-

I don't take too kindly to reasonless reads on me.

[notscience]

She never even attempted to. Like, without meta altogether.

She has this strong townread all game

And is nitpicking arguments saying how its not alignment indicative.

Like, without meta altogeter.

See person A defending person b, without really committing reasons to the strong read, but its so strong they defend against most of the playerlist?

Like I can understand not being able to explain your reads but not even rtying to?

And reading replace outs as anything but null can fuck you over (see: mod error mafia)

[notscience]

I still maintain I was fucking right about LLD

fuck yes

[notscience]

lala, I'm tlling you this from experience

I find myself playing constantly when I'm ready to punch something or emotionally impaired and it doesn't help at all.

It impairs my judgement and it make sme start to drag the rest of the game down.

So just, I'm not trying to be mean but I'm warning you because I get like that

[notscience]

Katsuki don't you even fucking undermine me

My reads were fucking amazing too

now join my righteous pursuit on the other scumbird

[notscience]

Kats

Basically it boils down to

Scumbird seems sure cara is town

when defending cara rather than say why cara is town scumbird just nitpicks others arguments

but if this was really as strong a townread as we are led to believe (given its most of the scumbirds iso)

Why is there no reasoning to townread

[notscience]

Ill be in and out, I'm on my phone about to errands though so I can panelist

Brian should help me kill what I'm killing

[notscience]

Hey guys

As fun as being the deadline wagon being voted by bork and 5 people who are deserting us is

Can we please consolidate?

Or do I have to nitpick each and every person on my wagon to throw this bullshit mislynch wagon off the rails

[notscience]

Also, Brian not trying to consolidate is making my eye twitch

He should know around deadline that its time to consolidate but hes sitting on lala which doesnt really look likely at all

pedit-
He's nullscum.

But I'm not sure I like any wagon you're trying to push.

[notscience]

I'm nothing but nerve.

But when my number 1 scumread is asking me to consolidate a wagon on a null scum read

As an opportunity to save myself

Don't you think it's suspicious?

[notscience]

Kagami I would love a detailed list of how your read on me has progressed as the game has gone on, tia.

My only hangup with trying to lynch nacho is so close to deadline I'm worried he can shove it off on someone else.

[notscience]

muffin I am still waiting for you to parse my wall

I am on the edge of my seat

desparate for your townread

Do something town and you might get my town read.

This was to zmuffin

Not you

I don't deal with people who are useless and are voteparking saying to vote someone without contributing to discussion or even saying why to vote them.

[notscience]

Here's what you need to know

I'm town and I have 6 votes on my wagon, majority of which are from people lurking incessantly and never gave a solid reason for voting me

You do the math

[notscience]

BRIAN

IM STILL WAITING FOR YOU

Also @TTH-

It's nothing I can quantify.

I don't think he's town.

But joining his wagon lead by my top scumread makes me doubt its validity.

[notscience]

That being said, I'm not really sure it's as strong as it was but I'm having trouble quantifying what's making my read on you weaken.

[notscience]

[notscience]

Only if you'll keep on acting like you actually give a shit what I do!

[notscience]

that being said

VOTE: oversoul

something somethign survivalism something

[notscience]

Translation:

I don't want to have to concede that notscience is town and my vote is bullshit

[notscience]

Well

We can lynch scumcho

[notscience]

BRIAN

[notscience]

DONT YOU DO THIS TO ME

[notscience]

ARE WE GETTING THE CHO WAGON bACK TOGETHER

WOOOOOOOOO

VOTE: cho

[notscience]

it's not my fault you called the slot cho first

[notscience]

I swear to god

[notscience]

DONT MAKE ME USE THESE BRIAN

[notscience]

Brian's just playing hard to get.

[notscience]

Bceause I have 6 votes and bork hasnt read up yet and brian isnt doing anything and I really would rathr not get lynched

[notscience]

CHOO CHOO

[notscience]

That depends, can you articulate why I am scum?

[notscience]

Ooba

we're going to have some issues

[notscience]

You are welcome to address my wall when you get to it

Granted at that point I dont remember what was really feeding my cho read but, my wall addresses a lot of reasons why she's scum

[notscience]

All ashore that's going ashore

[notscience]

A better question is what looked so scummy about me in the first place to warrant votes from majority of te wagon

[notscience]

Ok, completely missed that.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: nati

willing to consolidate on non-nacho, non-zmuff

I read your previous post just now that said you think ns looks more town now but I feel like you should need something really concrete to essentially consciously derail the leading wagon right now, especially if you claim to be looking for compromises.

I haven't reread ns yet -- what looks town to you?

[notscience]

frankly

The only person on it I'm convinced isn't scum is you

Nati, Kagami, Muffin, and grapes have been voting me without reason, and Nacho's positioning regarding me is sketchy as fuck.

[notscience]

It ultimately reminds me of how i played in PvZ, where I was whiteknighting the fuck out of bins for most of the game

Like I understand preflip associatives blahblahblah but seriously? I can't even tell why she's supposedly townreading lala but she is so sure of the read she was ready to try a mason claim, but cant articulate an explanation?

[notscience]

Yes

And replace outs are null

[notscience]

My biggest issue with the oversoul wagon is who is leading it

[notscience]

Actually let me tihnk

What if they are scum together, and oversoul not really fighting his lynch just means that choslot is like a strong pr or something versus oversoul as like a goon?

[notscience]

youre convincing me to vote ovrsoul

without even voting him

[notscience]

Sue me.

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pvz is like my favorite game I've been in

So.

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hi guys

Ill try to be here tomorrow, sick, mind fuzzy, incoherency etc etc

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kinda hoping nati starts doing stuff this game instead of moping about

Coaching/nudging his scumfriend?

Just a comment from someone who tries to use coaching as a tell all the time

It generally doesn't really work

I can see your argument in this case but at the same time

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hi guys

I'm back

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I really dislike that notscience continues to do jack shit

Hey there buddy

Let me let you in on a little secret

Since I posted at the start of the day, I've been- Sick, at work, or last night I was with the commune

So sorry real life is getting in the way

And being useless isn't alignment indicative for me. So, stop bullshitting and trying to misrep my meta.

Proof: Corpse party in later days

Which you just so happen to have been in!

So, pray tell Nacho

Go on about how scum I am for actually having a life with now that I have to keep up with and how that makes me scum!

I also skimmed the last few apges and need to reread them in depth but

I also need to revisit how the end of yesterday went down, because there are specific ways I anticipate scum to have interacted with the nati wagon.

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That being said my activity will be sporadic throughout the week because people are coming to nc to visit!

But of course I must be scum for having a life so.

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Kagami's defense of me but then suddenly reversing it and saying "oh I can see him flipping as either alignment" is bugging the fuck out of me.

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Not so much the defense as "handwaving and saying "oh thast town ns"

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I'm having flashbacks to when sakura used to replace out when being wagoned and people would just run her up to see what she did

So that's kinda making me think this is town-nacho but at the same time its getting rather old.

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What do you think about the sakura replace-out, ns?

It's null

As all replace outs are.

Who's scum and why, NS?

Funny, I can ask you this same question!

Town
Brian
farside
gaiden


Maybe town
Nacho
muffincat
lalalalalalalallalalalalalal
oversoul

Scum-
TTH

Off the top of my head

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I don't know, you could look back at my day 1 iso if you really wanted to know the answer to that question.

Other than the majority of cho's iso, I can't raelly tell you that much.

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Right now I'm looking at how people joined the nati wagon.

The first thing I was really looking at was who kinda started the swing on to that wagon. That was bork, I felt like after his vote came down the others all just poured on.

Then we have muffin's vote, which he essentially equates to pl. I didn't really like it, because it felt more like exasperated scum "sigh, this wagon is fine."

Lala had like no reasoning with her vote, it was just like "k lets do it' which ina weird way I kinda find town? Like wouldn't scum at least make some tpye of comment about joniing the wagon?

farside had a mention of nati coasting earlier in her iso and asked if that was the norm, then joined the wagon after everyone else did without a reasoning. I don't really like the jump on but I still kinda like her other stuff.

Oversoul had been trying to start the wagon for a while and it wasnt picking up steam. There's a part of me that thinks oversoul thought he would go down for the day and wanted to distance from nati.

I like Kagami's jump some, because she/he/it/fuckkagamiputonapronounsoidontfeelbad (jk you dont have to) went from like "ill sheep zmuffinsread" to her own read. And if this had happened after the bork vote, the major turning point in the wagon I might have been a bit skeptical but because it prempted the bork vote I'm thinking this looks like town.

So, based off how the wagon was sans the last two votes (I'll finish looking at these in the morning), I'm thinking that

lala, Kagami both lean more towards the green.

farside dips a bit back towards grey

Oversoul and muffin dip towards red.

pedit-

It's called having real life to do and can'talways devote the time needed to process a game.

Essentially, the thing that bugged me the most was that for someone so adamant that someone else is town, willing to fakeclaim masons with them, why was there no train of thought? Just the entire way she positioned around lala makes no sense in my head from a town perspective.

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And ftr, I tend to prefer finding town more than finding scum

So.

Actually having a scumread is not a common thing from me

its generally like

"Dont ever touch"

"maybe just a poke"

"you can touch these"

If that makes sense

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The muffinvote I kinda get, nati was asked to claim and then pretty much justscumclaimed

Nachovote is obvious hammer

Niether of which I find all that alignment indicative.

Meh

I still like what I said in my post above

[notscience]

Well lets see

nacho has been pressuring me all day

And I have real life to deal with and I have off work tomorrow but yeah!

You're right!

Its not coinciding with my free time at all!

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Well I just read through some ISOs.

Gonna stick with this vote till the end of the day. Nati hasn't done any scum hunting and hasn't really done anything of value. Even if he's somehow town I see removing him as a plus.

VOTE: Natirasha

Except the wagon had started to shift off me and on to oversoul.

But, you know.

It was on me.

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I disagree with the sala tiwnreads. Reason: his read on me calls me town yet I somehow make his lynch shortlist?

@kagami, dont waste your time reading into her replace out. Its null.

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I am going to pick apart that wall becayse a lot of those reads dont make any sense and sound fake

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I wasn't going to lolhammer, nice melodrama though.

I will post tomorrow hopefully, but meet>mafia

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VOTE: notscience

You bore me.

[notscience]

Alrighty, lets catch up.

[notscience]

. The thing about notscience watering down my read is him discrediting like his whole wagon yesterday.

When a wagon on me is bullshit, I'm not just gonig to sit by and let myself get mislynched.

So, cool story.

Spout more bullshit.

K here's what I want to do: Lynch Gaiden.

Look at his ISO and tell me what parts are town. He's been coasting on Sakura power-buddying him and he just tried to pull the same thing in 2203. He fought against the Nati lynch and pushed for a Lala lynch (one of my weaker townreads, but a townread none the less) with zero evidence or justification.

We've already got 1 scum down, we can afford to mislynch in case I'm wrong. But you know what? I don't fucking care what alignment he is. He's so goddamn useless that it is worth it for him to die before LYLO to deny scum the chance to leave him alive as lynchbait.

VOTE: Gaiden

Anybody not voting Gaiden needs to explain (and be specific about) why he's an asset to town.

I'm not PLing on day 2.

He's confirmed town unless Sakura slot is scum and even then it's still a tossup.

Where did MelancholyMath go?

Post-orlando meet was in Raleigh and I was spending the week with scummers playing games and doing shit.

Site was ironically both the first and last thing on my mind.

The scum were more underpowered in Alice II than Alice I.

At this point I'm just going to throw my hands in the air and say welp you all fucking suck if you can't see how Sala STILL WANTED THE FUCKING IC DEAD AFTER THE CLAIM AND WAS LITERALLY RAGING BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT MEANT HE WAS GETTING LYNCHED

LASDJFLKADSJFKLJSAOITHJEWOADSFJSADKLFJK,. LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

I was liking the muffincat

then he did the thing that the muffin who isnt annoying was like "well if you were town id expct you to do x" and now im like "well this seems like an organic line of action!"

Vote: Sala

not the nightingale, and sala seems the best shout for scum here.

I do not like this vote

actually

vote: notscience

bored, ns?

what if... hmmm

okay, I'm working on a hood theory that might indicate TTH isn't scumsies

just want to see a few things happens first

Yeah, I get bored of people pushing me without any legitimate reasoning.

And if said legitimate reasoning is going to be "where was he yesterday" I am going to purge him.

It's just that simple.

So I think I don't really want to lynch outside of grapes/Gaiden/Mac/Brian. TTH, what do you think of that?

We aren't lynching Gaiden or Brian.

VOTE: grapes

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er day 3

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Other wagons I am interested in include:
Katsuki
TTH
The non-non annoying muffin

But the biggest thing for me right now is that I definitely don't want to lynch Gaiden.

For obvious reasons don't want to lynch myself.

Not feeling a brian lynch.

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How is kastuki confirmed town

Didnt he retract his claim

And I've been over why I want to lynch TTH. I felt like cho's play this game was essentially whiteknighting lalala and it bugs me that there was no substance behind the read.

Muffin is primarily gut. Gun to my head, the things that bug me most are his stances regarding me and Gaiden.

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And I don't believe a lot of the frustration that muffin's been spewing.'

pedit-

Dude, what.

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I run around and post pictures of puppies as scum

[notscience]

Other wagons I am interested in include:
Katsuki
TTH
The non-non annoying muffin

But the biggest thing for me right now is that I definitely don't want to lynch Gaiden.

For obvious reasons don't want to lynch myself.

Not feeling a brian lynch.

why are you interested lynching the un cc'd nightingale?

Because he retracted it?

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For those of you unvoting purely because he claimed alice, not mentioning any names or avian species, I'd like you to consider that there are 3 alics in this game and odds are one is scum.

So.

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@Fars

I still don't like TTH slot but Im being stubborn because I thought cho was scum and I think (?) im okay at reading cho so I kinda dont just wnat to roll over on that but for some reason no wagon seems to ever start and idk

I have a pocket read I don't care to share

I think one of the doublevoters is scum.

I want to lynch muffin but I cant tel if its because he has a grating personality or I think hes scum. I particularly dont like his gaidne/me stances

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Why have we not lynched grapes yet?

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VOTE: tth

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lol

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Could also vote Gaiden, don't have confidence in it.

Sakura said gaiden is town

Gaiden is town

There is nothing else to debate

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I'm just fucking confused because the way she came in felt like a town way to come in and there is no scum incentive to claiming something this early but I'm a neighborizer so uh

yeah

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I'm going to let you think very hard on that.

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I'm going to let you think very hard on that.

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It was d1, btw.

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Yes, it was kagami because kagami is the one who has claimed to know what I can do.

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I used it d1 and it opened up a pt for me and my target for N1.

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Also, muffincat, so we're on the same page.

2717 was sarcasm.

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CHESSKID

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We mostly talked about how much we hated you townies

:/

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except sakura

i didnt hte on sakura

or bork

or brian

or marq

jus everyone else