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Post Post #50 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:54 am

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VOTE: bacon
hydrate ricastle
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Post Post #140 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:12 am

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hydrate Rune


I don't like the way sonic is playing but the case against is pretty weak too. Not in favour of any policy lynches this game. Twie seems alright to me so far.

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Post Post #161 (isolation #2) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:24 am

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Oversoul, if we were a hydra it would go against my wincon to tell people you are scum :(

But yes, that would have been perfect here.
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Post Post #167 (isolation #3) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:27 am

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In post 160, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 156, Angry Frat BROs wrote:I'm trying not to encourage the spamposting that SB is doing



look, we even broke rvs! all thanks to who?



VOTE: angry RVS you don't own me.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:30 am

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No, everyone else and the game was wrong.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:35 am

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My flavour is to troll and be otherwise completely useless.

I agree with axe. Except about him being part of a combo.
combo.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:35 am

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Breakfast boy is scum.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:41 am

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In post 183, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 180, Rune wrote:My flavour is to troll and be otherwise completely useless.

I agree with axe. Except about him being part of a combo.
combo.

Except in my post I included that for you guys I wouldn't be seen as part of the combo, so this post of yours is actually retarded.


How rude. VOTE: axe
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Post Post #191 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:41 am

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In post 187, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:Rune seems pretty town!

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Post Post #256 (isolation #9) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:24 am

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Hydrate me. Lynch homunculus.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #10) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:33 am

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In post 262, TheWayItEnds wrote:You should think about trying to make your policy lynch claims line up with reality while you're gone.


This made me laugh. Even more than the scum read on me.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #11) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:34 am

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Oversoul I will give one serious comment after work. Until then, this is as good as it gets.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:42 am

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Is the mod trolling?
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Post Post #275 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:46 am

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Is axehole voting or not voting?

fixed everything
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Post Post #293 (isolation #14) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:42 am

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I don't want Frat BROs to be hydrated.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:46 am

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In post 295, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 293, Rune wrote:I don't want Frat BROs to be hydrated.

Because you're scum and they're town... We get it.


You're lucky you're so good looking because your ability to reason won't get you far.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:49 am

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Which one is wgeurts
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Post Post #301 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:55 am

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I do not agree.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:01 am

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In post 302, Ricastle wrote:And why is that? You rolled a tridra? :roll:


I'm not going to tell you.

But, I don't actually disagree, I mostly don't care.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:02 am

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No, you're not.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:05 am

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In post 308, Ricastle wrote:Nice, caught scum within 4 hours of game start

VOTE: Rune

Singer, this is why.


:( I'm just thirsty man.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:07 am

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VOTE: ricastle
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Post Post #313 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:12 am

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We are obviously not lynching Rune or ricastle, I agree.

I like that answer.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:14 am

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Angry, why are you not hydrating me?
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Post Post #317 (isolation #24) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:28 am

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Only when town is useless. I don't think this town needs me to play well yet. I'm easily the best option for hydration for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:35 am

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Bacon and eggs probably agrees with you.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:43 am

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In post 315, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 312, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Oh my god you guys.

We aren't lynching Rune or Ricastle Today.

@whoever asked: wgeurts is the one making scummy posts.

Just to meta rune, his town play is usually... Well, his town play is constantly screaming town. I don't have that vibe this game, usually he's more positive and constructive even early in the game. He doesn't have many forum games, so it's hard to tell 100% how valid that information is, but it's definitely worth noting that if we're not lynching him, he's probably the worst hydration target.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:44 am

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I'm insulted you think you can read me in that way.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:48 am

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In post 324, NotAnAxehole wrote:To add on that, your play is more one-dimensional than you probably care to realize.


Or, we haven't played in any games interesting enough to do otherwise lately and you're forgetting that.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:49 am

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In post 323, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 322, Rune wrote:I'm insulted you think you can read me in that way.

I'll read you like a book. I don't think you're the best day 1 lynch, but it's not the only thing about your play which will be a tell.


Are we betting on what I will flip based on my play so far?
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Post Post #329 (isolation #30) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:52 am

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I want Gatorade.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #31) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:59 am

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In post 330, Cait Sith wrote:Yeah btw we probably shouldn't fluff. we have a shitton of high posters this game (Titus, Tammy, Mala, Wisdom, ns, sonic) which will already make the game a decently high PC once it gets going.


I agree.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #32) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:35 am

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I am usually constructive as either alignment, yes. Right now, I'm deliciously in flavour.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #33) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:44 am

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VOTE: breakfast
hydrate greedy homunculus

I'm still the best choice for hydration.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #34) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:03 pm

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Thank you for your words of wisdom.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #35) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:06 pm

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I really like that this game is public multiball
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Post Post #352 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:13 pm

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In post 349, Angry Frat BROs wrote:
In post 343, Rune wrote:I really like that this game is public multiball

Said nobody ever.


That's not my name.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:16 pm

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In post 353, ZZZX wrote:
In post 50, Rune wrote:hydrate ricastle

anyone hydrating rica is tricked, Rica is my first minor scum read tbh, feels like a raelly faked post imho.(from him)


This implies we have a similar approach to hydration votes, which I doubt.
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Post Post #361 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:28 pm

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Would you prefer if I hydrated breakfast?
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Post Post #365 (isolation #39) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:36 pm

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In post 363, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 362, Cait Sith wrote:
Axe - each day we'll be voting for hydration.

Oh, I understand that, but each day, the person who is hydrated picks another person to hydrate. Either, the town should agree on who that person should pick and that person can then confirm if they got it or not, or we have to pick someone who is not only town, but on who we can rely on to make a good decision.


Hydration is a great mechanic for town and your suggestion abuses that terribly in favour of scum.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #40) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:38 pm

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VOTE: axe
hydrate breakfast
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Post Post #370 (isolation #41) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:42 pm

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In post 366, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 365, Rune wrote:
In post 363, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 362, Cait Sith wrote:
Axe - each day we'll be voting for hydration.

Oh, I understand that, but each day, the person who is hydrated picks another person to hydrate. Either, the town should agree on who that person should pick and that person can then confirm if they got it or not, or we have to pick someone who is not only town, but on who we can rely on to make a good decision.


Hydration is a great mechanic for town and your suggestion abuses that terribly in favour of scum.

Hydrating strong players sways the mechanic in favor of scum? What?


Here I thought it was obvious. *sigh*
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Post Post #374 (isolation #42) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:55 pm

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In post 371, Cait Sith wrote:
In post 363, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 362, Cait Sith wrote:
Axe - each day we'll be voting for hydration.

Oh, I understand that, but each day, the person who is hydrated picks another person to hydrate. Either, the town should agree on who that person should pick and that person can then confirm if they got it or not, or we have to pick someone who is not only town, but on who we can rely on to make a good decision.



Where does it say the hydrated person picks another to hydrate?

If that is the case and they don't have to make it public, I'd prefer them to keep it to themselves at least for that day as I'd prefer scum not have any more information than they already have. Besides their choice will help in reading them as well.


It was in the signup thread but I don't see it now.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #43) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:06 pm

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That's bad advice too.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #44) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:20 pm

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I'm sorry you feel that way.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #45) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:38 pm

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I am not playing to be lynched. I should be hydrated. I doubt I'll be lynched.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #46) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:46 pm

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We don't know who we will hydrate so that advice tells everyone to keep their reads close and basically not play. Unless the advice is for d2 in which case it is equally not helpful.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #47) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:47 pm

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Most of my posts, including votes, have been quite serious
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Post Post #403 (isolation #48) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:21 pm

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Glass pretty well summed up a lot of what I think about this game and seems to be the only person so far to post a decent understanding of how we should use hydration.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #49) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:40 pm

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Not better.. The same. And it doesn't matter as much if we hit scum because of multiball. Good players who are townread should not be hydrated. But you knew that and are scum.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #50) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:43 pm

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I'm no longer the defacto optimal hydration. Still thirsty though if anyone is interested.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #51) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:58 pm

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Or, we lynch scum axe.
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Post Post #440 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:09 pm

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Nah sonic is not a good lynch today. Keep whining and being annoying.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #53) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:54 am

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Glass leaving is terrible for this game. As such, I promise to pick it up just a little bit and slightly abandon flavour by the end of the week ( at a wedding now and a business trip during the week, so I'm basically posting from mobile till then).

Axe actually is scum though. If I wasn't sure of it, I would likely coddle up to him as I did in the last game we played together, where, incidentally, he mentioned I am the best player he knows. He is taking advantage of my troll flavour to discredit me early as he knows I am admittedly biased against him.

On a completely unrelated note, both games axe has completed on this forum, he has been town and fake claimed to get another townie killed. Usually this happens once he gets bored - before that stage he can be quite good.

Normally I like to keep good players alive past d1 - and btw the fact that I am clearly reading this game fully far outweighs moderately useless posting at this stage imo. In this case though, I am quite certain axe is scum. Not going to make a post by post case, but it makes me no less right.
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Post Post #466 (isolation #54) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:15 am

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He is bleeding scum right now. And you're not wrong, but I just don't see the benefit in giving you that information right now when I'm having fun with the current gamestate and it won't help you anyways.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #55) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:45 am

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I think we all agree you've spent more than enough time being overly defensively towards someone who has been posting uselessly
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Post Post #474 (isolation #56) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:03 am

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Wait What? I did not say hydrated players should keep their reads to themselves. I said that was dumb. Read the actual game lol.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #57) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:04 am

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I'm not the best person to hydrate because I was playing poorly partly because if I was hydrated scum would have a harder choice who to kill. Now That it has been mentioned there is wifom and it is no longer by default optimal. I'm still a good choice.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #58) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:13 am

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We should not hydrate strong town players, it will get them killed. Weak town with powers and strong town without gives town the most weapons. It would be best for weak town to be hydrated and pick moderately strong town to also get a power. And i don't really care if scum get hydrated unless they get a second kill out of it. I'd gladly kill scum in exchange for giving them a power.

I am assuming the first person hydrated will very likely be night killed night one.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #59) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:14 am

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Also, quadruple post and axe is still going to flip scum.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #60) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:59 am

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Greed
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Post Post #489 (isolation #61) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:00 am

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Greed I always knew you were better than the others.
hydrate Rune
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Post Post #494 (isolation #62) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:12 am

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Your scumread on me is pretty bad but I do like that post.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #63) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:16 am

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Homunculus is my favourite scum in this game.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #64) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:23 am

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Axe is scum but playing poorly. Homunculus is my favourite scum. They are not incompatible and I still vote axe.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #65) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:29 am

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In post 506, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 505, Rune wrote:Axe is scum but playing poorly. Homunculus is my favourite scum. They are not incompatible and I still vote axe.



Dude. Tell me what is the difference between Axe and Homunculus scum.

You didnt mention homonculus scum earlier. so I want you to tell me what is scummy about him.


Next time you blatantly ignore my posts I will not respond. I have both fos and Ho's homunculus earlier in this game.

You quoted the difference... Axe is doing it poorly.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #66) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:38 am

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Scumreading scum for no reason is better than you Scumreading town.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #67) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:44 am

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Not wrong about axe. Homunculus is a maybe.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #68) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:47 am

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No. But, to be clear, I'm not randomly making reads. I'm quite confident.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #69) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:51 am

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Brilliantly wrong.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #70) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:56 am

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In post 521, MarioManiac4 wrote:You know what, this convo is amusing. So: I'm brilliantly brilliant at brilliantly finding brilliantly obvious scum.


Master Syrio says not today.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #71) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:58 am

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My name is cabd, I am a computer nerd with no life who loves to troll and is good at nothing else. Long live the league of the purple.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #72) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:35 am

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Rules say that flavour is purely for entertainment and doesn't impact roles. It's like I'm the only one reading the game.

I'm dead serious about axe.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #73) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:05 pm

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hydrate Rune

Thought that was there already but vote count shows otherwise.
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Post Post #544 (isolation #74) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:45 pm

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@singer very subjectively. I don't care about consensus reads, I care about quality analysis. In this context, consensus town who has mediocre reads (good enough to pick town to hydrate) is the kind of weak town I'm looking for, if it's not me.
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Post Post #545 (isolation #75) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:46 pm

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Although, it seems like I'm forced to actually kind of play somewhat seriously now. So Im less excited about sacrificing myself by being hydrated first but I'll still do it if it goes that way.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #76) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:53 pm

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The only consensus I think town should come to is that I'm right about axe.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #77) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:03 pm

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Top, probably.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #78) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:40 pm

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In post 551, p2 wrote:why did you make that post rune


Why haven't you asked the mod why she does it? Yeah, I went there.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #79) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:44 pm

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Titus I already caught scum. Anyone isoing axe should see this.

Axe I'm sorry you rolled scum on this one.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #80) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:45 pm

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To be extremely clear, axe is by far the best lynch today. Not in favour of any other d1 lynch at the moment.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:52 pm

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That's fair, and I will when I need to.

The homunculus is probably scum. I'm willing to admit I might be wrong. But yeah, I'll make a case there. Axe is just obvious.

Frankly I'm not terribly interested in convincing people at this point. I'm satisfied knowing axe is scum and that anyone wanting to lynch me today is brilliantly silly.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:56 pm

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I like Titus. I don't like sonic. The slot is likely town. Glass was town.
Need moar overlysoul in this game though.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #83) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:02 pm

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Singer you're so likable I dislike it.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #84) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:06 pm

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How does that change when I flip and you're wrong?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #85) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:26 pm

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I also thought that was odd but I don't think it is indicative.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #86) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:32 pm

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Titus answer my question about what happens when I flip and you're wrong.

Has anyone looked axes iso and is still willing to say he is town?
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Post Post #580 (isolation #87) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:29 pm

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Finished a re-read - reads are generally but not necessarily in order.

Town:
Rune
MarioManiac
Singer
Bros
Sonic

Probtown:
Castle
zzzx
cait sith
P2

Null:
midget

keeping an eye on:
breakfast
espeon

watchlist:
TWIE
Oversoul
Homunculus

Scum:
Seiko
Axe

I also need to own up to being wrong that Glass was the first to intelligently post about hydration. Titus and someone else had a small exchange earlier.

I like Seiko as scum for writing big blocks without committing to anything.
I have been overly harsh on Homunculus but am by no means convinced of town alignment. Gut feeling is gut feeling.

Axe.... even without the personal knowledge I have of him both on forum games and in person, I think an ISO shows it is obvious.

He is making game theory mistakes which would benefit scum (and he is smarter than this, you just don't know it and looking at his forum games wouldn't believe it)

He is spending a disproportionate amount of time responding to me or talking about me really defensively which seems unnecessary except to take advantage of my intentionally poor play to discredit me. But really, given the opinion on me of several of you, he shouldn't feel such a need to defend himself, except that I am right and he knows I am good enough to catch him and get him lynched unless he crushes me.

I think his votes (for lynches and hydration) limited as they are have all been poor and in favour of scum.

His reads list isn't terrible overall but his lack of explanations despite being asked questions about it is inconsistent with his posting style this game imo. Like Seiko, his posts are pretty pathetic compared to the actual scumhunting going on.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #88) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:16 am

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My answer is obvious.

@homunculus why is it weird that I hydrate you after voting you? It's pretty consistent with my prior votes and my thoughts on hydration. I think it's pretty weak for you to make a point like that.

I really, really dislike people when their posts show they haven't read the game.

@breakfast Im glad I stopped voting and hydrating you, at least for now.

@castle because axe is definitely scum and I have no idea if you are.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #89) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:17 am

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@Mario I'm sorry but you're wrong. I'm surprised and disappointed.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #90) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:21 am

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In post 602, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 599, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:
In post 596, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 595, Homiletic Homunculi wrote:
In post 470, NotAnAxehole wrote:Homiletic Homunculi I feel like there are too many distractions from their scum reads, they seem to be piling on a few different reasons why their vote could go other ways, then it goes on someone who in some cases (Sonic) seemed to be their primary discussion topic, while in others it seems to be one of their fallback routes (Oversoul) which they started preparing for previously.

uh

so we're scum for saying a lot of words and voting for people?

please put down the drugs and/or scum role pm

You're making a mockery of a valid point and are refusing to review your play, which I don't like. What I mean is quite clear - the text and the votes don't seem to make sense together.

I can already tell how retarded this argument is going to be.

Your point as far as I can tell is worthy of mockery. We are assessing the entire game and giving lots of opinions on lots of players. That's not "creating fallback routes," it's scumhunting. This reads like you decided to attack us and had to pull a reason to do so from so far up your ass that I imagine your hand must still be stuck there. It's basically a too townie argument as far as I can see. Why would we need to "fall back" off of a sonic vote at a time when they were under a lot of pressure and looked reallyscummy? You've failed to attribute any motivation to this action and are labeling it as scummy because that's the narrative you've decided to push

-Ceph

We're not going to have an argument, either you understand my play style and reasoning or you don't and either I understand your play style and reasoning or I don't. I don't think either of us are going to change our minds about these topics until and unless it's done in a diplomatic manner, and if I'm right (about you being scum), it'll probably only be possible post-game.


When did the debate about religion start? That post is gold.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #91) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:26 am

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In post 618, Ricastle wrote:Yes, but one of your only points for Axe being definitely scum is something that I'm equally guilty of, so...?



You're wrong in many ways. Iso yourself and iso axe.
You are questioning me. Axe is not.

Axe is intentionally manipulating personal knowledge of me to discredit me, you are not.

Axe has a huge tunnel on me,responding to me unnecessarily in most of his posts, you do not.

I also know axe extremely well and know he is scum. I don't know you so it would be bad of me to make that judgement.

@sonic. I'm town. Axe is scum. Homunculus favourite scum but maybe not scum. We've been over this.
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Post Post #626 (isolation #92) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:30 am

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[quote="In post 621,

In post 573, Rune wrote:Titus answer my question about what happens when I flip and you're wrong.

I might not be a genius but I've seen this "when I flip" thingy for scums a couple of times...[/quote]

Ok but how does that invalidate my question in any way?

I'm not playing in a way that I expect will take me through to end game. If I die and flip town, how does that impact people's reads on Axe?
Also, why hasn't anyone suggested I am bussing Axe?
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Post Post #627 (isolation #93) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:31 am

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Double quote fail......

Mod help plz


done
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Post Post #629 (isolation #94) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:35 am

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You didn't get the toppings right, I want another.
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Post Post #642 (isolation #95) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:13 am

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VOTE: seiko
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Post Post #649 (isolation #96) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:43 am

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top
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Post Post #666 (isolation #97) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:05 am

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In post 648, singersigner wrote:
In post 619, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 615, Ricastle wrote:That it's scum relation. In an all-vanilla D1 what other answer pertaining to relation is there?


I don't think it's that easy?

Rune: Scumreads Axe + HH
Axe: Scumreads Rune + HH
HH: Scumreads Axe but not Rune

It's a very peculiar triangle. Who's scum and who's town? Why? Why would they act in such a manner?

Do you think that they are all scumbuddies? That wouldn't make any sense, would it?

These are all questions that you must ask yourself before answering my main question. It's not that simple. I don't think.


I think it's a case of two people being really stubborn about how well they know the other person, and one other person caught in the mix. I don't think it's that unusual to have a trifecta of scumreads like this, and the fact that you're making it seem like more than that without commenting on it yourself is ~smeh~.

What
are
your thoughts on this?


His read is baseless and really bad. My somewhat trolling start is his reason for me being a one-dimensional obvious scum or playing to lose. This is obviously a hilariously poor reason to scumread someone who isn't a complete noob (which he knows I am not - I refer again to the last game together where he points out that I am the best player he knows).

@Sonic you are wrong - once again not having read the game - I mentioned that I thought it was odd no one thought I was bussing Axe.

Summary of Axe:
Spoiler:
In post 169, NotAnAxehole wrote:
Rune was wrong about everything.


In post 183, NotAnAxehole wrote:
this post of yours is actually retarded.


In post 195, NotAnAxehole wrote:
He's really easy to read.


In post 295, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 293, Rune wrote:I don't want Frat BROs to be hydrated.

Because you're scum and they're town... We get it.


In post 315, NotAnAxehole wrote:

Just to meta rune, his town play is usually... Well, his town play is constantly screaming town. I don't have that vibe this game, usually he's more positive and constructive even early in the game. He doesn't have many forum games, so it's hard to tell 100% how valid that information is, but it's definitely worth noting that if we're not lynching him, he's probably the worst hydration target.


In post 323, NotAnAxehole wrote:
I'll read you like a book.


In post 324, NotAnAxehole wrote:To add on that, your play is more one-dimensional than you probably care to realize.


In post 341, NotAnAxehole wrote:
It seems you've also taken inspiration for your play style from there as "how to easily confirm myself as town".

I'm either scum reading you or really not liking you as town this game, I haven't quite decided, but I'm assuming that will come clear very quickly.


In post 381, NotAnAxehole wrote:
VOTE: Rune

Yes, if you play to be lynched, we can't tell if you're scum or not, it doesn't prove much of a point though.


Basically he assumes that because my start is not super constructive that I am scum, and that my play is one dimensional - referring to the exactly one forum game I have that he knows about. That I am somewhat trolling only because some town idiots did it in that game. That if his read is wrong it is because I'm trying to lose.

His "personal knowledge" of me and my play, or at least his attempted expression of it here, just reeks of scum looking to get rid of someone who caught him and who he wants to dismiss without committing himself. This is again coming from someone who has completed 2 forum games, both of which he was town and fake claimed resulting in a town lynch and ultimately town losing.

I am not playing to be lynched. I am playing to win. Axe is going to flip scum. You're all welcome.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #98) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:08 am

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Also, can we get back to talking about hydration alongside scumreads?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #99) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:14 am

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Cabd breaker
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Post Post #676 (isolation #100) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:15 am

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Fail
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Post Post #677 (isolation #101) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:16 am

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That's the second time. Not fair that you have mod powers :(
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Post Post #687 (isolation #102) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:00 am

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Bacon and eggs missing from vote count.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #103) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:01 am

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Singer hydrating me isn't what I meant by asking for a discussion but meh I'll take it.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #104) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:01 am

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We haven't played enough challenging games lately for there to be an objective answer. When I am an observer, I am very good at reading axe. When playing with him, I am not great at early town reading him but I am generally much better at early scum reading him. Of course, a lot of the time I also am not immediately certain, saying anything else would obviously be a lie.

Axe would generally be more of a threat to me in terms of his reading ability late game. His strengths, when he chooses to try, are in analyzing people over longer periods - which he can get quite good at. You can tell by his reasoning here that his early read of me is pretty useless.

It is also classic of scum axe to try to make me irrelevant by day two through nk or turning people against me. Usually we would be on the same page d1 but my start here gave him an opening he couldn't pass up.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #105) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:11 am

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I was trying to be moderately useless. Iso me lol.
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Post Post #698 (isolation #106) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:12 am

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*to appear
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Post Post #709 (isolation #107) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:01 am

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699 makes no sense. I'm not being deliberately scummy. He is scum though and I'm not elaborating more than I already have.

Seiko you're probably scum so it's not stupid.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #108) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:41 am

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I'm not dancing around anything. Quote me. I totally disagree with you and didn't admit that at all.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #109) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:29 am

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VOTE: axe
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Post Post #717 (isolation #110) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:33 am

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How is that a fact when it is wrong and easily proved to be wrong. Our last game together on forum I did not try to policy lynch you.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #111) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:35 am

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I'm also not trying to policy lynch you here. You drew scum this game.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #112) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:42 am

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You're still clearly wrong lol. Evening in our invperson games that's not true.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #113) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:42 am

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That was to axe
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Post Post #723 (isolation #114) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:47 am

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None of those posts said scummy or anti town
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Post Post #731 (isolation #115) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:04 am

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Agree to disagree
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Post Post #734 (isolation #116) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:22 am

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I was trolling and being dumb. That's not anti town at such an early phase nor is it scummy. You're being silly.
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Post Post #737 (isolation #117) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:29 am

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It's the beginning of day fucking one lol
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Post Post #749 (isolation #118) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:05 pm

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I don't like twie play at all. Not a lynch candidate for today imo but he is a second tier scum read right now.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #119) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:43 pm

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I found scum and it is axe. Ive made this very clear. Where did I say twie was scum even? I explicitly said in that quote he is a second tier read for me. Your post is garbage.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #120) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:49 pm

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hydrate espeon
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Post Post #760 (isolation #121) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:59 pm

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You're telling me that me saying I don't want to lynch twie makes no sense. Thats bullshit because I already said who I think is scum and that hasn't changed. That's what my post was about.

I'm not complaining that people don't believe me, it's obviously my fault and I don't really care to try harder to convince people right now. But it doesn't change that I think he is scum and that I'm not ready to lynch twie.
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Post Post #761 (isolation #122) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:59 pm

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I voted for Seiko earlier and still would....
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Post Post #763 (isolation #123) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:01 pm

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Yes it bothers me when people don't bother to read the game and blatantly manipulate or misinterpret someone's posts. I'm not apologetic for that.

If I've missed questions I'm sorry. Please repeat what you want me to answer and I'll do that.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #124) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:03 pm

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He is just taunting sonic and not participating at all. I don't like it but I don't think it is necessarily alignment indicative. I can dislike how people play as town. For example, I'm sure people don't like my play right now.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #125) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:05 pm

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See my reads list for what I meant by second tier.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #126) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:39 pm

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Seiko who are your strongest scum reads and briefly why?
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Post Post #778 (isolation #127) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:48 pm

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I don't think the vca was worse than a lot of the other things Mario has posted, so it doesn't bother me if people didn't call it out.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #128) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:00 pm

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Why is Titus more likely to avoid pointing it out as scum?
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Post Post #786 (isolation #129) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:07 pm

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VOTE: Seiko
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Post Post #917 (isolation #130) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:47 pm

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In post 900, Sonic Boom wrote:public service apology to everyone for the massive page influx


With shit like this I have no chance of beating your post count.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #131) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:48 pm

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For people who know castle, is he/she a dumbass?

Tammy and Titus I know I missed your early posts on hydration and apologized earlier.
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Post Post #919 (isolation #132) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:51 pm

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I'll now add twie to my scum list with an asterix that I'm willing to drop it if he does anything remotely town.

Seiko I don't care if you defend yourself. Make a goddam case against someone using evidence from this game, not including a dumb argument about Titus not commenting on vca.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #133) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:54 pm

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Btw axe is far and away the best lynch for today still and it's still obvious.
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Post Post #921 (isolation #134) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:08 am

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Iso on breakfast shows a disproportionate amount of communication or reference to Seiko. I think it is more likely than not breakfast just outed themselves trying to save Seiko. It's a bit early to read such an aggressive and in my opinion poor/risky play but I'll stick with it for now.
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Post Post #922 (isolation #135) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:25 am

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hydrate castle
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Post Post #926 (isolation #136) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:26 am

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Don't you dare edit this combo breaker
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Post Post #927 (isolation #137) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:26 am

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:(
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Post Post #928 (isolation #138) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:28 am

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Can someone work up the energy to interrogate oversoul?
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Post Post #936 (isolation #139) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:37 am

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To be clear, I'm not hydrating castle because I think he is likely to be town. I'm just really ok with him being night killed.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #140) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:38 am

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Espeon I could see that play coming from either alignment at this point though.
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Post Post #943 (isolation #141) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:55 am

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I'm assuming that whoever gets hydrated will get night killed. At least, that there is a high probability of it happening. I'll take a scum team of 2 with a pr over 3 without any day. Especially since we are all vanilla, I don't think it is likely scum will get a pr that significantly helps them.

To win, town needs to make scum kill each other and keep the strongest players alive. Hydration is a mechanic that can be used for either or both of these purposes.

That being said, if I was certain castle was scum, I'd opt to lynch instead.
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Post Post #944 (isolation #142) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:56 am

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Axe I already explicitly stated what Seiko needs to do to appear town to me.

I also think you are both scum so I'm the only consistent one by yo Ur logic :)
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Post Post #945 (isolation #143) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:00 am

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But I actually think the case against Seiko is very different than the alleged non case against you.

You are at least trying to catch the other scum team. Seiko hasn't taken a valid stance on anything meaningful.
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Post Post #951 (isolation #144) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:27 am

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Doubt it.
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Post Post #970 (isolation #145) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:31 am

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Can you describe the methodology? The justification for the set of outputs you displayed? What inputs you used? Why your analysis should be trusted?

How do these results vary for the other players in this game? Spoiler it please.

Overall seems like it could be a neat tool but I'm hoping you can provide something a bit more solid in the context of this game.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #146) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:44 am

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My first set of questions was from the perspective of an amateur statistician and wasn't meant to offend.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #147) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:44 am

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It isn't the same if you claim to be scientific though. You should realize this.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #148) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:07 am

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I said I didn't try to policy lynch you. And openly admit the cop on you was suboptimal.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #149) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:12 am

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I'm correcting your contradiction,that's all.

Do you admit your opening play on me here was garbage?
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Post Post #996 (isolation #150) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:12 am

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Don't worry, I believe you. I'm glad you're coming around and seeing the light.

Sorry axe.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #151) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:14 am

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Singer I tried that. People also ask for justification. Then they want to be convinced. It's rather annoying I agree.
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #152) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:20 am

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That's ok. I'm pretty content with this game right now. People are slowly coming around to axe being scum. We still have about two weeks. I'm not bothered that the thread is long.

@singer he is right though.
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #153) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:32 am

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Nah I'm good. But, I'll help you out anyways.
VOTE: axe
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #154) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:39 am

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I have denied that multiple times and given proof that it is untrue. Come up with a new argument.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #155) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:44 am

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I never asked anyone to vote for you and told everyone you were town. That's not a fucking policy lynch lol.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #156) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:46 am

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The last game we played in person you killed me n1 as scum and while I was alive I never questioned you.

You're making things up and I don't believe it is genuine frustration, you're just trying to discredit me. And it's because you're scum.
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #157) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:01 am

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You were obviously scum when you killed me. You don't get to attack me for being right.
And in the resistance game we identified scum together and you made a weird associative comment which I mentioned right away.
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #158) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:02 am

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I get that you are frustrated and I accept some blame for it. Right now you're frustrated because you don't get to play scum as you'd like because I caught you right away. I only caught you because of your ridiculous attack on me at the beginning. Sorry but it's your own fault.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #159) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:03 am

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In the future I promise to be slightly more trusting of you. Can we get back to this game now?
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #160) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:16 am

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*hug* I don't even know what that last comment refers to.
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #161) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:29 am

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Maybe you mean the game of thrones game I backstabbing you in? :p it's sad but you guilting me out of scumreading you is slowly working.
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #162) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:57 am

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Can we lynch someone? Twie Seiko or axe idgaf.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #163) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:00 am

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VOTE: Seiko
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #164) » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:13 am

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Warning: I'm replacing out too. Axe is a friend and I'm not happy to have bullied him out of this one. My thoughts on his slot are unchanged.

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