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Holy shit you guys.

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So obviously this is 3:3:11 right? I mean that's unbalanced as fuck but 2:2:13 seems too reasonable for a game like this.

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Sonic Boom Jun 12, 07:23am Jun 12, 08:38am 0 days 0 hours

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VOTE: Sonic Boom

Hydra: Ricastle

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Also, we're a vt. I know some of you hate early claims but welp.

Oh Tammy is actually scum this game thats cool.

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VOTE: bacon

hydrate ricastle

Please help me lynch Sonic Boom. Metal Sonic is determined to shitpost and there is one way we can stop him.

this much resistance is astounding, even for those who disagree with the policy.

Because some of us actually want to play mafia? And not get caught up in a shit flinging contest on Page 1 of a game that we all know is going to reach at LEAST 100 pages on D1.

Who said anything about multiball? Are you trying to repeat Street Racers London?

Oh, and if it wasn't clear, the game is publicly multiball

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Fine,

Town: Tammy, Ricastle, Sonic Boom

Scum: Who knows, Oversoul?

Totally going to be a hot mess: This game.

I will policy lynch Sonic Boom as long as they have over 1/3 of the posts in the thread. That is not going to fly.

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^ Sorry, I'm just pissed off and tired and its now becoming evident that I'm going to be the only person modding the game and posting in this one.

Also supposedly Molla is joining this hydra maybe.

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OH ya Rune is town too.

P-edit: Don't believe that for even a second.

p-p-edit: No? Im just salty right now.

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So this post is intended as a response to the one right above it?

Not really. I'm not sure why I prefaced it with a "Fine," but I have a lot of crap bouncing around in my head right now so its God's guess what cause that.

Also, is anyone reading my posts, because I feel like I'm not getting responded to and no one has an opinion on me. >:

Not really sure what to make of you yet. I'm trying not to encourage the spamposting that SB is doing and you seem to be getting swept into though. Ricastle is town and I don't really get what you are seeing there. Also that one Cephrir quote strip post (might be the one about Ricastle?) made me narrow my eyes. Ya'll might be scum and I'm going to feel like a blind man without his seeing eye dog w/o mastin here to help me with that. Not that mastin is a dog.

Tammy real talk I didn't like your VT comment. :/ it felt feigned and forced trying to display lack of care/knowledge

She did something similar in Signs/Voids. Tammy really needs to start reading the rules of the games she signs up for. Not doing so it a nasty habit and makes me want to vote her every time it comes out.

Also real talk didn't like the setup spec from AP/Bro

Meh; I dislike Multiball (rather loudly) so I talk about it. I find the setup numbers interesting from a mod PoV because 4:13 is the most common setup for 17p and I cant think of a multiball setup I've ever seen with similar numbers. Also I doubt multiball means "SK + mafia" which someone mentioned and I now recall.

SMD -C; Ceph should be able to read me and Cheetory I have no idea but you guys are being trolls with signing. Not that I care, but expect me to be snarkier than I might normally be.

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Also Not Science is a townlean, GIF is slightly scummy but not enough for me to care that much. More like he isn't town which is concerning.

@OS: Im a massochist? IDK, I just find multifaction games to be unbalanced and not "actual" mafia. Scum seems to always win them and, in my head, they have a record of being the most absurd games during the Day phase anyhow. I didn't know it was when I joined but I don't care enough to not play. I'll play; I'll just whine about it intermittently until people assure me that its all gonna be ok.

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look, we even broke rvs! all thanks to who?

Ya we traded RVS for something worse. You howling about TWIE being literally hitler and everyone else not giving a shit while scum just throws peanuts at you no doubt.

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Oh I figured it out. The "Fine" I put in my post was me deciding that Tammy was getting flipped from a gut scum read to a gut town read. Some ragrets. But not really, full steam ahead.

p-edit: Ugh, Titus. The "no doubt" part of my comment and the analogy it was attached to was intended to convey tired jaded sarcasm, not develop a concrete salient point.

Since you asked though, I would say that Bacon and Egg is doing what I envision scum doing here - coasting by.

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Spoiler: These posts

Guise it took preview of 16 posts until I managed to post this
staph

Also when I played with twie he never ruined a game for me so I don't see all the hate.

My God I can't post without pre viewing a post

^ These posts are really not doing it for me. Combined with asserting he has townreads and then not explaining or giving any hints is just divey. GIF was fairly bovious town in Signs/Voids and I'm not seeing the same GIF here. I might need more time with him to have a ~good~ read but I'm jus going with actual logic here for once and this looks like scum to me.

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btw I just saw this and everything so far has been pieguyn. notsci hasn't shown up yet.

Oh, hi pie. That makes sense. I still think you are town though. also SB is ~probably~ town, but I do have to give my normal disclaimer that this a multiball game and my gaydar doesn't work as well on Multisexual games.

So it's gonna be Angry Frat BROlla!

Lets be real, is probably just going to be AngryPidgeon.

So is this a policy lynch vote or?

Seriously? Yes? Are you asking for the sake of asking or can you genuinely not see glaringly obvious signs?

Pie, Tammy/Mala town. Ricastle, Rune probtown. SB is too but ugh.

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But your posts haven't advanced the game and you haven't been scum hunting.

@MS.

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Spoiler: Mastin-tier self meta for Ceph

@Cephory6: Haha. My posts are like night and day to me as scum/town. I need to read old cum games of mine just to remind myself how people like me operate as scum. Its one of the reasons why I dislike "objective" things like treatment of buddies and votes at certain junctures. Like when I play scum, all I see are possibilities and I just flirt with them all game. Not in the sense that I"leave options open", but I will decide that I'm bussing player X to death one Day if the wind is blowing the right way or I might throw a hissy fit and melt down. Looking at superficial markers of my play won't get anyone anywhere. My attitude and emotional progression is what makes me town/scum. I have real fears and motivators as both alignments and they color what I say even if what I'm "saying" is the same.

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^ I strongly hope that was intentionally ironic.

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I count 7 votes. Isn't it 17 alive -> 9 to lynch?

Or am I retarded?

no, I am.

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Rune is town.

I've played with TWIE at least a couple times and I have never had any issues with him, so can we stop this horrifying backandforth?

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Mod, I just voted for hydration and you've split the wagon on us into two seperate vote count sections. One of which spelled incorrectly and the second correctely.

Hydrate: Espsyoncheage

I'm up for flavour claiming, need to talk with my scumteam though first.
~wgeurts

My flavor is like IC levels of town!

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Angry BRO's is post 156 AP or BRO?
Lol, I'm assuming 166 is BRO.

I lol'd.

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wgeurts is scum unfortunately :\

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Oh my god you guys.

We aren't lynching Rune or Ricastle Today.

@whoever asked: wgeurts is the one making scummy posts.

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(I'll sign my posts but I don't think it's necessary for this particular one.)

mastin?

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I don't get the townreads on Singer but shes one of the people that gets townread a lot for being "afraid of scum" a la Tammy and Mina and I usually throw shade on the whole ordeal just to end up seeing them flip town every game, so MEH.

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I really like that this game is public multiball

Said nobody ever.

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I've never played forum mafia with Mina, but in person, her alignment is ridiculously obvious... haha

When did you meet Mina? oO Or on skype?

Also I have nits to pick with you.

Why are you defending Bacon/Egg? Do they look town to you or are you just not seeing the case on them cause you ignored my call out on them but went after someone else for calling them out. I think their posts have had virtually no content and all look superficial. I don't think its a hard scum feel yet, but its definitely less than town and I'm surprised that anyone would feel that they are town enough to shoot down suspicion on them at this juncture?

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Wtf guys why is this game already on page 20.

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Not gonna get the chance to get started on this for a bit, so fuck y'all for making me read through 30+ pages of shitposting in advanced.

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Are prods on 48 hour timers or something?, jesus. I was sort of busy over the weekend, but I will (pretend to) catch up shortly.

We could have just lynched Sonic Boom on P6, but nooooooo. And now they are never gonna get lynched Today because they got to L - 1 on P6 so voodoo sorcery states that we can't lynch them for at least 4 Days. We could have had a not 40 page game. All the ragrets. In other news, BBMolla is probably joining this hydra but the process of making a hydra account is evidently so nebulous that it wont happen unless I do it and I'm (mutiny)ing right now. In other words, if we lynch one of my townreads over someone like Sonic Boom or someone scummy I'm going to stab someone. But what would be the worst thing ever is for this game to crack 100 pages on D1.

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Also I think Axehole is scum, but that is purely a gutmeta read. I shouldn't say purely, because that comes with the connotation that I don't trust it, which I do; his posts stood out like a sore thumb to me. What it DOES mean is that I know someone is going to ask me to explain it and I'm going to say no thanks.

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@Singer: Well not to complain, but I'm basically playing this as a solo slot right now.

I am voting and I have posted reads? I mean seriously, what though? Are you trying to stipulate that I am lurking because I didn't post over the weekend?

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Oh hey, Wisdom is in this game. Wisdom am I scum?

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Vote count 1.18

Voting:

Sonic boom

: Angry frat BROS, oversoul, seiko x naiomi

Oversoul

: Cait sith, singersigner

Seiko x naomi

: Sonic boom, MarioManiac4, Rune, randomidget, Ricastle,

NotAnAxehole:

homuletic homunculi

ricastle:

bacon and egg, NotAnAxehole,

Not voting Ricastle. Probably not voting Seiko, but I'll look them over. That is NS/pie? Oversoul was pretty null for me. Don't really see any better wagon than Sonic Boom unless people want to spring for NAA.

Edits: @Singer: Oh and you did have a reason to complain in your post about 8 pages in 8 hours or whatever.

Ya ok. I can and will complain about games with posters in them who are proud of spamposting.

My hydra partner hasn't done anything and hasn't said anything to me so yes I'm ANNOYED. CONGRATZ. You figured out WHY IM COMPLAINING.

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VOTE: Axehole
I promise to actually read all of this later on; gotta get some work done right now.

I could support votes on Bacon/Egg in all probability.

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The only hope I had for this game was that I would be able to reason with AP, which seemed likely. Turns out to be wrong, because he's joining a wagon which is led by a player who admittedly policy lynches me every game.

Wanna talk about it? I'll admit I'm only halfway in the game right now and that'll be the case until I actually find a peaceful time to read all of this uninhibited. I strongly hope this'll be later tonight after work. But if you want to expand on the above or talk about something, then talk to me. Also, I had no idea anyone was voting you on policy; I'm voting you on my own volition, but I don't really have any die-hard reads at all this game yet.

So leave me a memo and I'll be sure to look for it later tonight. I'm going to seriously try and get work done right now though >.>

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Out of the last few pages, I am getting town vibes from no one but Singer. Singer of all fucking people.

What is weird about townreading Singer? I thought she was one of those people who had a rep for being "obvious" as either alignment.

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UNVOTE: NAA; VOTE: MarioManiac

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AFB, give us some solid reads please.

Pedit: We're lynching Seiko. Please hop on.

You can wait until I actually read the thread properly. I'm not going to cough up some half-assed bullshit because someone wants me to be in the game. Guess what: *I* want me to be in the game. Seiko is a townread though so no thanks.

p-edit: Uhhh, "Singer of all fucking people" is very specifically implying its weird that you are townreading SINGER, not that you are townreading only one person. I don't even. I want to call this moving the goal posts, but I just don't know. I do know that if singer flips scum, I'm going to be thrusting pitchforks in your direction over this.

p-p-edit: I think the NAA replace out and last few posts might be from town. Its enough that I don't want to keep my vote there at the moment. Mario Maniac's posts are largely self aware and I don't see anything really town in them after reading his ISO.

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I've seen more "obvious town" replaceouts from scum players effort posting on their way out the door than I have town players doing as much. -shrug-.

I'll try and take it in better, but I thought he seemed genuinely upset at the game.

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Yeah, I've written most of our posts, but not the good ones

-Ceph

:/ :\ :/ :\

Anyways, I just ISO'd TWIE and I don't really want to lynch him.

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What the fuck, how did that quote get there. I was responding Rune's post above mine.

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But besides that he has been scumhunting I guess. But scum these days do that a lot. In general, though, I'd rather lynch someone who's more guarded.

Woah, where did all of those percentages come from?

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I've played with TWIE at least a couple times and I have never had any issues with him, so can we stop this horrifying backandforth?

I dont mind the guy but if he will just keep talking to sonic about that bullshit which pushes sonic to reply I will flip out.

I know sonic and he is the same kind of guy as I am in those cases, I cant shut up if I see bullshit.

Dont defend metal sonic. One of {TWIE, MS} is ruining this game and its not TWIE.

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Cephrir? What the crap is going on here. Nothing TWIE has posted is scummy on its own and his answers have made decent sense.

Why are you arguing with him. For the love of god, don't. I think hes town and I hate all of the conversation involving him.

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:/ I guess. HE isn;'t even the lowest post count in the game though. Randomdget at 4 posts? P2 and Mario at less than TWIE. His ISO reads like someone who is annoyed at Metal Sonic. I find this to be completely understandable and MS's posts wrt TWIE have been extremely egregious this game. If I were TWIE, I wouldn't be so collected!

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Ugh, that is a side-point to what I'm saying, jesus.

IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS GAME, TWIE's posts make a lot of sense to me. Metal Sonic has been so unabashedly rude and anti-town towards TWIE, I'm frankly just happy TWIE is still here. It would be nice to have him play the game, but I understand why he isn't given what is happening.

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^ I still wanna know where the numbers came from! Don't deny me, p2, I love numbers, especially percentage points and pseudo-psychology. Almost as much as I love semi-colons and opening sentences with conjunctions.

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Well gee, we all think like you right?

Are you kidding me? I'll give you that I read into your post a little bit to get to my thought of "Huh, why does Titus think Singer being town is weird". I certainly didn't have to go very far to get there though; your English was fairly plain. Your response was to say that there was nothing special about singer but now you are saying that there IS something special about singer (that she wasn't very town previously). I'm ok with that explanation, but confused why you didn't just say that in the first place rather than assert that there was nothing notable about singer being town.

Later on, you make a post stating you understand why TWIE isn't producing context. Yet his fucking reasons are the same ones some argued I was scummy for. Particularly the day 1 reads are shit. When I see this repeated ignorance and hypocritical stances across multiple games it is very fucking unnerving.

Slow down, what? I'll agree (and TWIE would too I'd guess) that he hasn't done much of anything this game. My judgment on him despite that is that hes probably town for being up front about that rather than faking content anyhow. When you talk about TWIE's reasons, I don't really know which reasons you mean (see previous point about everyone agreeing that TWIE isn't doing much).When you say "some" I don't know who you mean, a quote might help. Who has repeated ignorance, TWIE? Me? I really don't know what you are trying to say here.

Come now, AFB...TWIE isn't even trying to play. He really isn't looking fazed by Sonic's tunnel either, and besides that hasn't been happening for bloody ages. Why are you going out of your way to defend someone who has deliberately sat around and refused to engage?

Because I have a townread on him and I think all the discussion about his slot has done nothing productive. If you want to just vote him, I won't complain or stop you. I think repeatedly badgering him IS anti-town though and I'd rather prevent that from happening since I think it will increase the odds of him being productive if I do.

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I would scumread AP for this but he defended the scum this terribly in Street Racers London and was town.

asdlfgjadgjeslkgbsjnzlkbsrjthlk'j sdflkgj d'yw

Right ya. I defended thamateur. Literally one person. and I was 100% right about your case on him being wrong. Congratulations you found a scum for the wrong reasons and you continued to shove scum for the wrong reasons and I continued to not care. I was right about fucking Kaboose all game and no one would sheep me on that.

But ya lets go here Titus. Lets fucking talk about Street Racers. Lets actually go through and analyze who was more right in that game statistically, rather than have a reasonable conversation right here about this one.

I think TWIE is town. If that is your major gripe with me then .

I'm not pretending I have godlike reads in this game.

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Asking pretty please while voting town?

Do you even know who I'm voting? And thanks for the totally irrelevant discredit. A better idea? Yes, I do have a better idea. Stop talking to me about TWIE if the only case on him is activity / policy based for the time being. I might care if he is still being useless through Tomorrow. In the meantime, there are likely like 5 other Mafiosos you could convince me to vote.

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^ I haven't read it. Or if I did then I skimmed it and don't remember.

By 830 tonight I promise I'm going to get cozy with a deep glass of jack on the rocks and read the 25 or so pages that I missed. Also, what is YOUR stance on Ceph?

pedit

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Ok, I didn't read last night. Suckers!!!

But I'll be around today sporadically. If you want me to pay attention to something, then please direct me to it. I will catch up before TOO long.

Gut says Singer is scum; head says otherwise. I think my head is the more reliable source here.

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Have we decided to lynch Bacon/Egg yet? That seems pretty much a good idea.

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Oh Generic is town. I figured that out in like 15 seconds of reading Generic posts. At this rate, I can solve the game in time for breaky!

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Wgeurts/Anen, Bacon/Egg, MarioManiac, or we policy a lurker/spammer. I'm pretty fine with those options. Can we commit to one of them rather than random-wagoning the Flamin' Hot Cheetoes hydra?

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Bitch, I've been talking about lynching you pretty much all game.

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Bitch, I've been talking about lynching you pretty much all game.

thats the first I hear of it

Why do you want to lynch me again?

~Wis

Well for starters, you not really acknowledging that I want to lynch you. GIF's entry into the game was decidedly lackluster and waffly.

Oh hey, Wisdom is in this game. Wisdom am I scum?

And you never responded to this that I saw.

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Your stance on my post about Singer was pretty weaksauce and I don't really know what your mission statement has been in the game. Which could be SB's fault and whatnot for being a spammy chatbot, but who knows. Like I said, I don't have good reads right now because I haven't sat down and attempted to read the game in a peaceful setting.

I mostly want to dunk the wgeurts hydra for being scumfucks or PL Sonic Boom for being rude to TWIE, spamming, and starting shit with me.

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You've been a non-presence much like capcom, and with this being multiball you have even more of a reason to be.

This literally makes no sense. Its makes the opposite of sense.

Mario is scum because hes overly defensive. When we were making a defense of TWIE's activity that mentioned him, he felt the need to come in and defend himself from an implied statement that he is a lurker. Trying not to step on anyone's toes but does crap like buddy up to Generic over his Cheetoes case whilst not voting Cheetoes.

Wgeurts is scum because I've played with him and they are scum. Their coordination as a hydra makes zero sense. Its all smoky and not really doing anything.

Buuuut, ya need to read this game before I commit to these A B: HADOUKEN

P-edit: I <3 recent P2 posts. P2, can I be your P1?

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Ten a.m., waking up in the morning
Titus makin' posts, gonna pull out my hair
Gotta make a post gotta make 'em serial
Seein' everything, the time is goin'
Tickin' on and on, everybody's spammin'
Gotta get down to the actual content
Gotta catch some scum, I see my spam (my spam)

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I don't even know what your case is. We are scum for lurking? Not even factual.

This isn't comparable to capcom at all and its way easier to be invested as scum in multifaction games. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=30724

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Cool then we are on the same page! I was going to say "gut" but I decided to throw you a bone.

I'll let you know when we're actually caught up and N' Sync.

p-edit: don't hold your breath.

p-pedit: Then you are just objectively wrong about proper scum play in multiball games and this argument is pointless to continue.

MORE EDITS MAKE IT STOP

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Looool. Using both meta and activity in the same point is god-awful in all respects.

I really don't care what you are reading us as.

What I do care about is agreeing on voting someone and wagoning them into oblivion so we can actually catch up without Sonic Boom spamming another 50 pages.

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:/ I don't particularly think either of those is scum after spending a very brief amount of time in Ricastle's ISO and reading all of Midget's. Probably slightly more inclined to vote Ricastle?, but I don't know.

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PEdit: oversoul all you need to know is that I'm always town. Every. Single. Time. Apart from once. Which coincidentally was a multiball.

This sentiment is likely to come from town in this context ime. I don't really expect people to share my opinion of this type of sentence, and I expect it to get categorized as an Ate/Town-claim post, but I think this one is likely town.

I think scum would make more effort at faking reads than Midget has put in. The lurk looks like a town lurk to me. Tone reads fairly natural and not forced/contrived/worried at all. I like the lack of excuses for not posting more, in general.

I like the distinct opinion on what should be hydrated.

Its not a rockhard read, but its there.

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Bacon/Eggs vs Sonicboom is tedious and pedantic.
Generic vs Chester the Cheetah is tedious and pedantic.

If someone would like to have a tedious and pedantic argument with me, I'm ready!

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@Wis: -shrug-, we have different ways of seeing things. I can certainly understand that perspective though. Midget is lurking and lynchbait regardless so I would likely join a wagon on it if it happened.

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Alright, I'm actually at work despite evidence to the contrary >.> so let me actually get work done. I'll prioritize ISOing Ricastle today.

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I'll admit some concern about RM after browsing his past games. Like a dummy, I went looking for a scumgame of his and forgot what he said about having only one in multiball. Which I am having issues finding. Hes not really ever an active poster per se though.

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There is no pressure. And believe me, if I were scum I'd be effectively kicking back and sipping margaritas whilst all the shit going around spams the game into oblivion.

p-edit: oh cool.

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Don't mind me then! I looked at his ISO in that game a little bit. I feel totally fine saying that his low-activity in this game doesn't seem to mean anything after having looked at a couple of his games. This does seem to be his first large game and given the state of this game, I can understand why someone would be overwhelmed.

Hydra vote is a majority thing, right? Like we don't need to hammer it or anything?

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Huh I forgot Tammy is in this game; that doesn't bode well for her alignment.

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Wisdom's reads are all largely based in OMGUS. Which is fairly par for the course for what I've seen of him in the past.

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Ya, at first I was going to say I agreed with most of it.

But Wisdom potentially has too many townreads, which might be a similar thing I'm also realizing.

I'd have OS at null, Espy-hydra at scum, ZZZX at null scum. I think those are the major things I'd disagree with at this juncture.

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Well of course you don't think they do, but my past experiences with you suggest that you are largely prone to it.

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But that might also just be a symptom of your playstyle.

p-edit: I'm reserving judgement on Ricastle until I ISO him. I don't think 1480 is particularly scummy though.

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Ya because being cautious about revealing inside info is totally a thing scum never do.

<--- hilariously reminded of how out of touch wisdoms way of reading the game is from mine.

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The business about being hydrated is not particularly compelling imo for a few reasons.

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No, I think generic is town. But I would never read someone as town for asking why someone thinks it's Multiball.

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So is that you saying I'm not town? Cos one of you apparently cleared me in 15 seconds...

Does it matter how someone gets to the same conclusion as you if you agree with it?

Whoever managed the insta-read, what was it for you that cleared me?

Your attitude in your push against Ceph + the flavor claim.

And re the bolded: of course?!? I cant believe anyone would think it wouldn't matter for even a second.

In this particular instance though, no. I don't particularly care that Wisdom thinks you are town for that, but it stood out to me as a totally egregious reason to townread someone. One that I might argue if I actually cared about the surrounding events.

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I think hes saying that Ricastle is town for wanting to be hydrated so bad?

p-edit: ding ding ding.

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I know, I wasn't trying to make a game-related point out of it. More of a meta point which is that I'll probably never see eye to eye with wisdom in a game.

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I hardly think I've been repeating it and no, I don't really care what you think about me at this point.

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I know, I wasn't trying to make a game-related point out of it. More of a meta point which is that I'll probably never see eye to eye with wisdom in a game.

Ya because being cautious about revealing inside info is totally a thing scum never do.

<--- hilariously reminded of how out of touch wisdoms way of reading the game is from mine.

@Wis: -shrug-, we have different ways of seeing things. I can certainly understand that perspective though. Midget is lurking and lynchbait regardless so I would likely join a wagon on it if it happened.

Three times counts as repeating it in my book.

And as a bonus this is at least the second time you say you don't care about how I read you.

~Wis

I think you are conceited and self-centered.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Your point is bad and based in a refusal to accept that I don't care about your posts.

Truth be told, I have almost no respect for how you read people. For all I care, you may as well chuck darts at a dart board. I may be salty because you've read me correctly in the past, but it doesn't change how I feel about your playstyle and I was making an effort not to be an ass by posting something along these liens earlier, but its hard because Im an asshole.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Whats up scrubs, did you miss me?

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this is most likely 11:3:3, any other combination is unbalanced for one of the sides given everyone is vanilla

FTR, 11:3:3 is horrifyingly unbalanced for town. But I do agree that its the most likely here, because most mods err on the side of fucking town over comically when making multifaction games.

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Sonic, we are not 1 v 1ing anyone. Especially not pie who I have experience with and can read me better than most.

Pretty please mod make our PT

Oh actually this might just be a pretty strong townslip. Cases involving "townslips" are usually mediocre IMO, but this seems genuine. Unless mafia don't have daytalk. I certainly don't think Titus is on such a level to fake this one.

That's much better than anything mastin has ever said on the subject really.

It was also interesting, relatedly.

<3, and I'm aware that you posted about Ricastle who you are scumreading? I will take that into account when we go through him.

Overlysoul is very fixated on the hydrate business. Not scummy, but definitely not giving me a sense that hes town on P10.

I'm off to an early townread of Ricastle. This game is going to be frustrating. So many personalities and I find that I'm not agreeing with some I can see.

I'd like to discuss Rune right now more than hes being discussed, which is most people seem to be loosely townreading him mostly ambivalent? Noteworthy that the topic of Hydrating comes up and Rune kinda jumps on a self-vote for it and OS follows up on it.

@Titus:

why did you say Singer is a good hydra; do you still agree?

Rune is town.

Gross. Maybe, but I don't think this is a good read at this point.

/13 oh god such pages, very wow.

Early game I think Singer is likely town. Ricastle/Rune/Axehole are forming a weird group. Not sure what to make of it all.

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Like I don't even understand how asking for a pt is a townslip

If Sonic Boom has a mafia PT with daychat, then they probably wouldn't think about needing a hydra PT. Its not that they asked for a PT

in the thread

, its that they want a PT in the first place. Although I'll admit this is flimsy because it assumes scum have day talk (but lets be real they probably do) and that Titus wouldn't want a hydra PT if she had a mafia one (this could be untrue).

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really don't get your supposed town read on Hun... Seems so vague even when you gave the read initially.

I can't speak for Wisdom, but I'm null-leaning-town on them right now. I like to think I've got a good grasp on Ceph's scum play after Tales of You and the GM large normal. Hes like my ex-army buddy!; my read isn't solid, but I'm not feeling like he's scum here. As scum hes a little bit more withdrawn from the game in a sense- kinda reminds me of myself. I sense earnestness in his posts and *yadayada disclaimer about this being multiball so who knows*, but I'm inclined to go with my feelings on this one which is to just leave him alone for now. Might get a better idea down the road, but frankly I'm not seeing why you are so adamant about this one.

[Angry Frat BROs]

This reminds me of my frustration with mastin in xenogears (hint: I was scum).

That game reminds me of the number of times I've played this hydra solo! A lot.

If she's V/LA she could just not ask things that are immediately answered afterwards and wait until she has read. Doing what she is doing is just telling me she is trying to make it look like she is here, much like randomidget.

Ya..Her question to TWIE merited the response that TWIE gave her IMO. I'm uncertain about Singer; then again I'm uncertain about most people right now.

He is town because the way he slipped his lack of knowledge about multiball was natural and I can't see scum handling it like this.

No it wasn't? He literally, VERY CAUTIOUSLY, asked why some other player was so sure it was multiball. That means fuckall. Its like actually feasible that he thought that person might be on he other scumteam and scumslipping as scum. There was literally nothing even remotely 'natural' about it.

God. Ok I'm done. I told myself I was going to do my best not to argue shit that doesn't matter. Although I'm starting to sympathize with the C-boys enough that I'm willing to backdown on the degree of my townread of Generic.

[Angry Frat BROs]

On that note, Generic needs to produce content unrelated to the Ceph/Cheet hydra or I will start firing cannons in his direction.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Ok AFB, let's discuss someone else. What's your opinion of oversoul?

Have you read what I said about him? Do you have experience with him?

I have played with him before, although I'm not overly familiar with him.

All I remember from him this game is that he has been posting excuses for not playing which makes him a hard null in my books. I haven't seen what you said about him although I'd be happy to explore him more.

[Angry Frat BROs]

nope, that's not what happened. Read it again.

Hm, you are right, we were wrong about what went down there exactly. Lol I need to fact check my own hydra sometimes.

He made a case about OS and Cephory not being mafia together. You said "but its multiball". He said "Wait what? Also ricastle thinks its multiball..."

After reading his post, I'm not convinced it sounds genuine, but I can see better why you think his content before it was likely town I suppose. If he was faking not knowing about multiball, then at the very least his prior post did a good job of that. I'd need to actually read his posts in ISO before that point to get a proper feel for how he was approaching the game. The post where he asks about multiball looks a little weird to me (and scum are certainly capable of faking shit.

So tell me more then instead of asserting its a townslip. If the extent of your belief is post 1473 then I'm not impressed.

[Angry Frat BROs]

^ All that is AP-speak for "Ya ok, I need to ISO Generic"

[Angry Frat BROs]

Did you ever come to any interesting conclusions about what all the townreads on you mean?

p-edit oh ok nevermind actually attempting to be congenial and talk with you then. What was I thinking lol.

[Angry Frat BROs]

@Generic: Look, I'm willing to throw you a bone but two of those posts didn't really have opinion on people outside of Ceph. So 2 posts, wooo. Its totally possible I've missed your whole story in the game because I missed page-pocalypse over last weekend and wasn't really around most of yesterday.

I posted a towncase for midget previously. Low post count isn't a scumtell and actually his one scumgame had more posts than his town games that I saw. Not willing to hear an activity-based case for him right now. Posting promises/excuses to post is null. The only post of his I had issue with was the readslist posts (I think the one you are talking about) which looked a little bit like a post from his scumgame, but mostly superficially. It did look like effort for the sake of effort but at this point in the game, I don't know if its scummy. His votes sure look like votes to me and I think all the points made on them are really just after-the-fact conclusions assuming that he is MO this game is just lurking scum. Vote hops and unexplained votes are not scummy on their own accord. To summarize, I think the points on him boil down to IIOA and highly superficial analysis of his lack of activity.

TL;DR: "Waaah, the lurker voted me"

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Oversoul could be scum. I also noted that he was focusing on mechanics early on rather than doing much and has since faded into the background. He made one AtE-ish statement that made me like him for town a little bit, but I certainly can't remember where or what it was. Pretty hard null on him although I'd be happy to give him extra attention in the near future and see if BRO has any feelings one way or another (I dont think he does?). I recall someone (Ricastle?) kind of piggy-backing off of the direction OS steered the conversation in so I'd say its unlikely whoever that was (Ricastle?) is scum with Os. Rather minor point though.

TWIE is being actively useless. I agree with your assessment of his activity in the thread, but I'm not sold on it being scummy activity. It might help to read another game of his. His assertions about not having replaced into this game affecting his play sound probably-reasonable to me. I don't recall playing a game with him where he didn't replaced in past a 100 page mark or so.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Hydra: Seiko

VOTE: Ricastle

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All I seem to be hearing though is if I'm not scum reading people a person agrees with I'm not blcontributing. Which is bullshit.

Well all I recall of you in the last several pages is arguing with Homunsadlfkjrf and then discussing them with Wisdom on loop. But ya.

Do you have a read on Ricastle?

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this towncase on randomidget is bullshit. I would maybe accept it as "okay, he is scummy, but x is a better lynch because of this", but calling him town and trying to handwave his scummy behavior is nonsense.

Ok, I wasn't going to respond to this because, but I do have one thing to say that needs saying.

I didn't "handwave" jackshit. I actually made a well reasoned explanation of my thoughts in the thread over this fucking lurker. You are the one "hand waving" by asserting that he is scummy, refusing to hear otherwise, and not responding to anything I've said.

If you disagree, then you disagree. Don't accuse me of 'handwaving' when I'm very clearly doing the opposite of that though.

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can we have an explanation on this? Last time you talked about Ricastle, you said you were townreading him.

Compromise vote. Cheet's vote on him and Ceph's reachout to me about Ricastle looking town to them as well early on made me a little softer.

I realize that anything related to diplomacy and compromise is foreign to you.

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is basically "yeah he did this, but that's not a scumtell. He also did this, but that's a very weak scumtell. Oh and people say he also did this, but that's not scummy".

Yes? I went through all the things Generic said about him and talked about them; congratz, you described the process of arguing against a case. I even mentioned highly specific points such as "the postcount in his scumgame was higher than the ones in his towngames, therefore lurking is not a scumtell for him". I don't expect you to care, but I also feel obligated to defend my honor despite that, so meh.

Which is.. yeah, handwaving everything scummy he did. You have not mentioned a single reason he is town.

PEdit: oversoul all you need to know is that I'm always town. Every. Single. Time. Apart from once. Which coincidentally was a multiball.

This sentiment is likely to come from town in this context ime. I don't really expect people to share my opinion of this type of sentence, and I expect it to get categorized as an Ate/Town-claim post, but I think this one is likely town.

I think scum would make more effort at faking reads than Midget has put in. The lurk looks like a town lurk to me. Tone reads fairly natural and not forced/contrived/worried at all. I like the lack of excuses for not posting more, in general.

I like the distinct opinion on what should be hydrated.

Its not a rockhard read, but its there.

[Angry Frat BROs]

which as I said the first time, is bullshit

Then kindly shut the fuck up you hypocritical piece of shit.

[Angry Frat BROs]

The cheet head of Hun, I owe you an apology. Looks like what you called me was quite tame in comparison to this ridiculously unnecessary comment

Don't involve yourself in this, please. I don;t play mafia to get treated like trash despite doing my utmost best to be civil and build bridges.

I'm certainly never going to join a game with Wisdom in it again.

[Angry Frat BROs]

@Mod: please replace us

Wisdom, please dont ever join a game Im in again.

If I stay in this game Im going to get modkilled for telling you exactly what your parents never had the courage to tell you.