WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: ZZZX/Drixxx

Lets just do this now and prevent lurktastic endgame please.

@Bulba: is this your first large theme? Have you played as scum before in any finished game?

@AP: How confident are you on Matsinatown?

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

whats the difference between unscrupulous messenger and drug dealer? And commuters take effect after roleblocker a? What's the difference between escort and hooker?

~sonic

Unscrupulous Messenger and Drug Dealer are town and scum versions of the same role. UM cannot fake feedback though.

Commuter takes place after roleblock.

Escort, Consort are both role blocks of differing alignments. I used the other name to call attention to the answer to roleblocker being a bit different than usual. They are both hookers by definition.

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: TriforceP

Not a random vote

I know why, but it just seems too obvious for me to sheep.

UNVOTE: Zzzx

His reaction to my vote is town. But he better not lurk through, town needs all the help they can get.

Bulba:

Ok, besides marathons, I counted 2, one with some impressive bussing and another where you were obvious. My problem is that your townread of Matsin bugs me because it looks like a weak sheeping of AP, which is bad enough but atleast AP has reasons (metalolol) for trusting Matsin and Im willing to follow for now.

Its going to be a few days until Sonic and I can put our heads together as I am busy at my radio station here all week, so its going to have to wait for the comprehensive list of scum.

Im going to sheep my other head's current thoughts for now

VOTE: Elusive

[The Blue Blur]

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Then again, I changed my mind. ZZZX is probably scum.

VOTE: ZZZX

[The Blue Blur]

ZZZX prove to me that you aren't scum. I feel that you're acting pretty similar to our last game.

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: ZZZX/Drixxx

Lets just do this now and prevent lurktastic endgame please.

@Bulba: is this your first large theme? Have you played as scum before in any finished game?

@AP: How confident are you on Matsinatown?

~Sally

Inconcievable Salmance!

VOTE: The Blue blur

I shall not accept this.

Omgus it shall be

Perhaps?

This looks like it's coming from scum ZZZX.

Your move.

[The Blue Blur]

Okay. I changed my mind again. ZZZX is town.

VOTE: elusive



~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAA

[The Blue Blur]

wrong

[The Blue Blur]

are you really town

[The Blue Blur]

And you think ZZZX will be able to give town the help it needs...?

Blue Blur

That was all sanic, not me.

Anyways, I'm confused on what you want. I am townreading him at the moment for voting me because I don't think he would have noticed me if he was scum because of the events of Hardcore Mafia.

I don't want to lynch my townreads and and that means ZZZX lives today.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Why did you feel the need to answer for Sonic after just clarifying my question is more directed at Sonic?

I'm missing the part you directed towards Sonic when

1. I'm the one who said the line in question.
2. Sonic had no idea.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

That was all sanic, not me.

What was this even in context to? Was this not answering the quoted part?

Ok, lets do this step by step, because you seem to be missing something...

~Sally

And you think ZZZX will be able to give town the help it needs...?

I said the quote in general, and you asked me the question.

Then again, I changed my mind. ZZZX is probably scum.

VOTE: ZZZX

ZZZX prove to me that you aren't scum. I feel that you're acting pretty similar to our last game.

Which one.

And let me play your game
Prove to me that I am scum.

Your move

Then Metal Sonic and ZZZX talk to each other...

And you think ZZZX will be able to give town the help it needs...?

Blue Blur

You then think Im ignoring you, despite not being on (Sonic was).

So then, I ask

Why did you feel the need to answer for Sonic after just clarifying my question is more directed at Sonic?

Why would you say I was answering sonic when the question in general was made for me?

[The Blue Blur]

This can't really be ZZZX, his chatty sister must have gotten a hold of his computer. You've already made as many posts as in 2 typical games.

True.

Also, enough fluff. Lets get our reads and make a lynch.

Lets not have a 70+ day, ok?

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Vc error? There are two votes on elusive

~sonic

Account error? I hydra slipped

I added ZZZX's vote by hand. If you get confused, count the names.

Derp, Doublechecked he's voting Oversoul. Fixed.

[The Blue Blur]

Also, Blue Blur might be scum.

No. Seriously no.

(Unless you are scum, continue doing what your doing, but if you are town, stop. seriously).

~Who do you think? (Obvsalaisobv)

[The Blue Blur]

Anyways,

@Oversoul: No, I don't do that. I most likely wont do that, and don't see the effectiveness of said strategy of swapping posting tags.

I know why people want Gratuitous, for his seemingly late random vote and adding nothing of contribution, but wagoning him seems soooooooo bad. 1. His join date was 4 days ago, 2. in fact, there seems to be a lot of randomness still going on after he posts his random vote. Other than the pidgeon and Matsin (ughhhhhhh), theres not a lot of actual participation.

ZZZX is town right now because he wouldn't OMGUS as scum after Hardcore Mafia's events. He wouldn't try.

Bulba rubs me the wrong way with his townread of Matsin, because it just seems like its fake. I think Bulba would only say something like that if he had confidence, which he wouldn't as town.

Sonic thinks Elusive is scum, and I think I get why now. I'm guessing it has something to do with its cute defending of ZZZX when we voted him (Post 36). Also its iso isn't the best, but not the worst in this game. Reading this iso is a prime example why we need to get serious though on page 6.

Oversoul is a gut scum read for me. Empathsis gut. I don't have legit reasonings why, but that's just the way I'm going right now.

Lets talk about this "Plotinus" Character. First things, where is my dear froggie? he is going to make this fun. secondly this hydra is town most likely for trying to do something productive.

Who cares about that Atum RQS bullshit. Its null.

PV is definatly scum. I'm 99% sure on that one.

Riku needs to post more
Gumball needs to post more

Max is gut town right now, because its doing something productive.

Triforce is gut scum for that unvote with no serious vote after.

TelltalePidgeon is probably town.

Mastina is ???, fuck that Im not reading her today without wanting to fucking rage all over the thread.

Ok guys, heres some reads, play off it and lets get serious. We are 7 pages in with little to no hunting yet.

Let's get to work!

~Salamence20

[The Blue Blur]

And also, on that same note Mastin, this is the first time you've seen me as town, so of course it'll seem to be seriously. You only know me as scum

Erm ... this is seriously right on the borderline of being a trust tell. Maybe go check out what that is on the wiki and be careful.

nope, dont think so

[The Blue Blur]

~sonic


i want to vote you because that was really scummy but you are zzx slot


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[The Blue Blur]

its scummy because it seems like you are bitching about a town trying to prove that he is town so that he looks like conftown when it doesnt even look remotely like a trust tell at all and maybe you are overreacting

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

how on earth did that remotely look like a trust tell

[The Blue Blur]

you're getting scumpoints because it sounded like you were scum complaining about a town performing an act that might make him look really town and thus unlynchable

your recent posts failing to grasp this idea and instead misrepresenting yourself as "being helpful" also added a 1.2x bonus

[The Blue Blur]

And now we're are cooking with fire!

PV is definatly scum. I'm 99% sure on that one.

I thought we agreed in scumchat that you weren't going to bus me....

I can't wait to be mislynched once this flips scum. Also love it he's doing something now that I called him out on his fluffy bullshit.

I'm going to break Elusive's post in parts because its important:

I forgot that on this site being friendly and RQS questions and sociableness was considered suspicious, not going to really go into a deep psychological exploration of that but me and Atum and idk Grib and Titus all used to play on a site where that was the norm and not scummy.

Its not about the RQS, its about the fact that RVS should have been over by now that we shouldn't be answering stupid fucking questions at all.

I can't tell who are the two people in some of the hydras but Sonic and Quoth the Pidgeon suck.

Why?

Also I have not defended ZZZXXX, BlueBlur\Sonic whoever and nor would I defend that freak.

Yes you did, we called ZZZX a lurker and you argued that Drixxx would save the slot. That's defending.

I think Gumball, Riku, the four other people who are not posting are more likely where scum is because that is the meta for this site. Some scum try to be all town leaders but more try to coast along like little pathetic worms.

Fair enough part here, though. I'm guessing you must be thinking Gum/Riku for scum right now then?

And just because someone has four posts total or something doesn't mean they are newbie, it more likely means that are an alt. So yeah. So much illogic its frightening.

I guess that's a fair point, but it screams of an easy mislynch that is easy for a person who wants to be random. who knows?

And also, on that same note Mastin, this is the first time you've seen me as town, so of course it'll seem to be seriously. You only know me as scum

Erm ... this is seriously right on the borderline of being a trust tell. Maybe go check out what that is on the wiki and be careful.

Matsin has always called me scum when I am town, That means I am confirmed town?

Its not a trust tell.

It's not inherently suspicious, if say, we ran into each other at the office or coffee shop.

In the game, it often acts as fluff or filler posting. As in, how does anyone's answers help you in your quest to catch scum?

Well we're out of RVS. That's helpful! And look at all the opinions flying around.

So. Much. Helping.

Anyway.

@Blur of Blues
Why is PV scum?

@Drixx
If you notice something you think is scummy, why would you be warning against it? How do you scumhunt? No scumchat?

You can find my answer in your post somewhere.

you're getting scumpoints because it sounded like you were scum complaining about a town performing an act that might make him look really town and thus unlynchable

your recent posts failing to grasp this idea and instead misrepresenting yourself as "being helpful" also added a 1.2x bonus

You're behaving idiotically. If this is metal sonic, I expect that, but I expect better of Salamance.


VOTE: Blue Blur

So being stupid = scum? Also that was MS, I always sign my posts. But seriously that vote is odd as fuck.

I think BB probably town

Are you scum. Because I feel you are scum and idk why.

mastin are my top townreads. Mastin has practically claimed town already. There is a slim chance she would engage in some of the emotional posting she already has if she were scum and I doubt she could keep it up for long if she were. Drixx is town for the softclaim, plain and simple. ZZZX has also contributed to that read, but not as much.

I'm townreading you, but please don't rely on metachecks to townread someone who can and will manipulate people to win as scum. PLZZZZZ.

Other than that, your scum reads are fine, Minus Plotfrog. Can you explain why they are scum?

Gumball:

It was an overreaction for reasons that can't and won't be said in this game. I give up the fact that I'm a permanent scumread from Matsin forever and ever I guess.

ALSO, ONE DAY SHE WILL PAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FOR WHAT SHE DID TO ME IN THE WIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONE FUCKING DAY!!!!!

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

My read on mastin is ~kind of~ meta in that I know her fairly well. There is no explicit marker that I'm looking for in her towngame, but sometimes I just know it when I see it. Invisible Inc is the best recent example of mastin obvtowning in the first few pages of a game and me having no doubts about my read on it. Its not a sure thing and I get paranoia about her, but shes not mafia here. 3rd party? Ehhhh. Maybe. Not mafia though. I'm not concerned about the 3rd party at this point at all though.

Thats fine, Im townreading her too, Im just saying lets dont go down the "all hail matsin" path yet.

I feel like Blue Blur is being purposefully obtuse, I'm the one who brought up lurkers being a BS playstyle and that ZZXX in another game I was in (or at least two actually) just lurked away which is annoying. So someone attacked that slot for lurkerage and I said, "Yeah he can be a tool but Drixx isn't" so what I feel like happening here is that Sally or Blue Blur or whatever that is, is trying very hard to make something out of nothing and failing miserably. You were wrong, I was right. Etc.


P.S. If you are one of those whiny little sensitive souls for whom somewhat abrasive or scintilliating language is difficult because of low self-esteem or whatever (hey that dude said no one can make you feel inferior wo your consent and all but I guess for some people if you call them a penguin they fucking think they are one....), do write something like, "I'm PG rated" or whatever language is "appropriate" and I will strive to treat you like a fine delicate china bowl (although I mean those would be so fun to just break, as they resemble imperialism but that's just an aside). If I think you're scum tho, good luck with that.


Gumball, let's get something straight to cut through the BS that was your post about why you didn't want to post. Umm....no. First day is all about people trying to latch on to something, anything to try to make a scum case (and scum trying to mislynch someone and save their squiggling worm of a buddy who is being FOSed). So yeah a lot of is just throwing a candle in the dark or whatevs but it shows your thought process and who you find to be smell funky or not.

And see Gumball made a vote and provided some reasoning, lo and behold we are playing fucking mafia and not tea party with the boring people.

VOTE: Blue Blur

I like explanations that come with votes and from what I understand neither Sally nor Sonic have provided one. Try harder.

Call it as you may, its still a slight defense of that slot. Also this is an amazing overreaction, seriously nominated for an oscar.

I can't wait to be mislynched once this flips scum. Also love it he's doing something now that I called him out on his fluffy bullshit.

And here I thought we were just feeling each other out/up.

Instead, you "called me out on my fluffy bullshit".

That fluffy bullshit would have to be post 102 and 107.

As 102 was hello, RVs, etc., then 107 must have been "fluffy bullshit".

Elaborate why it was fluffy bullshit.

Its the same reason muffin is voting Blastoise. Only difference is hes a noob and you know how to play soooooo....

@Mastin
Since there are guaranteed to only be 5 VTs.

That doesn't seem ICish at all.

I mean, maybe by play one or two will be, but by role, I don't see how five VTs = all ICs.

Invisible Inc is the best recent example of mastin obvtowning in the first few pages of a game and me having no doubts about my read on it.

Preeeeeeeetty sure we need to play more often since I don't even remember that game, it's so old. (AP's point is right, he just lacks recent examples.)

PAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Plz vote obvscum elusive plz

[The Blue Blur]

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Also where is bulba?

[The Blue Blur]

Its the same reason muffin is voting Blastoise. Only difference is hes a noob and you know how to play soooooo....

Muffin in this game is voting TriForceP, who is not a noob, and did not asking questions. Otherwise, I think you may have your games confused.

Welp.

It doesnt change anything though, we should have RVS/RQS/Random after 3-4 pages. We should be scumhunting, and I took walls from me to get content generating, so whatever.

[The Blue Blur]

Blue Blur continues to reach hard and be path...I'm sorry wait let me rephrase that...put a vote and then try to justify it backwards because it has no reasoning or case. Good job, let's see you lynched.

Waaaaaaaaa

More overreactionssssssss

[The Blue Blur]

~Still more salalalalalala

[The Blue Blur]

I wish one day Matsin would dwell into her insane mind and tell everyone what shes thinking.

~Sala

[The Blue Blur]

@Bulba, is your vote RVS? Because it sure as hell looks like it.

Also, I dont know how I feel if your town reads are Matsin/Us only.

~Matsin's biggest fan

[The Blue Blur]

It is rvs.

VOTE: bulba

[The Blue Blur]

225, 226, and 227 were the pinnacle of scummy posting.

My sleep schedule is borked, so I'll be going to bed early.

I have townreads on Drizzx, elusive, Atum, Pidgeon, and Bulbazor, in that order. I read through focusing on getting townreads; I'll see who I want to vote tomorrow.

Special shout-out to elusive, who is yet again obvious town, and getting attacked more for her playstyle/tone than actual scumminess. Seen it once, seen it a thousand times.

Good night.

What the fuck is this?

[The Blue Blur]

Quoth The Pidgeon
Banana Frog
MaxwellPuckett
Grib
Oversoul
The Blue Blur
PeregrineV
Riku
Muffin
Prolapsed Brain
LittleGumball
Gratuitous
Bulbazoor
Klingoncelt
elusive
TriforceP
Drizzx
The Goat
Persivul
Atum

Yeah, this readslist absolutely sucks. Feel free to rip it to shreds.

<3

It sucks, but Im not going to get fucked today!!!

Do you have anything to say about Elusives performance? Bulba's poor buddying?

[The Blue Blur]

HOLY FUCK CAN WE STOP WITH ANY RANDOMNESS ON PAGE FUCKING 11.

FOR. FUCK. SAKE.

JDJDJDUEIFONEIDJDHDNENFNEKF

~SALLY

ELUSIVE 4 of 6 of those questions are shit

[The Blue Blur]

When I asked Bulba about his scumplay, I looked and saw comparisons to this game and the scumgame he was lynched day 1. I dont like it.

I already said this, go look for it.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Do you have anything to say about Elusives performance? Bulba's poor buddying?

Nope and nope. Their posting basically isn't registering.

I'm reading what they're saying, it's just that an alignment isn't getting generated one way or another.

Man, I wish I could ignore stupidity (elusive)

~Sally

Now good night

[The Blue Blur]

Salamence is certainly not PG or a "delicate China bowl" elusive


Lol

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

More later, but first.

Fuck you elusive. More frogs please!

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Substance from me tomorrow.

The elusive wagon is shit

Why is triforce scum?

[The Blue Blur]

Why is plotfrog scum?

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Perse is overdefensive

Scum

Perse is on the verge of site flaking.

Town

[The Blue Blur]

Blue Blur is making me upset...

Give me reads on someone not named Matsin/Pidgeon/Us/Pers.

[The Blue Blur]

~Forever sally

[The Blue Blur]

Substance from me tomorrow.

The elusive wagon is shit

Let me guess,
"She's not scum because she's a mean girl. She's like that in

every

game. [Insert meaningless more white-knighting garbage here.]"

Why would being a mean girl make her town? That makes no sense.

Also, fuck you. Town reading someone is not white knighting.

Hey you.
Yeah you.
Fuck You.

Now why is she town.

[The Blue Blur]

Why is plotfrog scum?

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

From having meta dived Salamence, he has a clear town vs. scum as well and right now he's leaning heavy on the scum side.

As town, he's logical gives read and interacts with multiple people and situations. As scum he (echoing the words of Farside) "Waves his d around" which right now is on part for the course.

Bad scum.

Im busy, dont have time to bitch about this as much as I want.

ELUSIVE I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SHIT. TOWN SALA WOULD NOT WALL POST OR TRY AS HARD AS I HAVE.

NOW GOT OFF MY DICK AND STOP MANIPULATING MY META TO FIT YOUR BULLSHIT NEEDS.

Im coming back to the actual shit, including PVscum and Why Im calling bulba scum in a bit hopefully.

For fuck sake

~Salla

[The Blue Blur]

Fuck I meant scum sala would not wall.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

@ mod: Can you tell us whether scum have daychat?

This is a fucking stupid question. Bulba and Elusive.

[The Blue Blur]

*Deep breath*

I think TheBlueBlur vs Drixx is TvT. sadly.

It is.

blueblur191 oh come on even i can see that Pere’s joking there and taking everything literally is what I do. He could be scum, but I doubt you’re scum together; that’s modkillable.

Only jackasses modkill people for WIFOM. I have examples if you want to know.

bulba225 wasn’t it a little late for rvs though?

bulba227 so you’re voting him because he’s scum leaning you?

This is why Bulba is scum. But ill get back to this in a bit.

The Blue Blur is pissed because reasons that can't be explained other than to say -> ongoing games. Dude, I don't carry grudges from games for people figuring out stuff so whatever is going on here is abnormal and you should probably pull our head out of your you know what.

I'm confscum for doing something that I actually haven't done. I have not tunneled. I have been trying to work on establishing reads. MS has voted Elusive and I agree with him. Other good scumreads are PV and Bulba. I'll talk about this in my next post.

From having meta dived Salamence, he has a clear town vs. scum as well and right now he's leaning heavy on the scum side.

As town, he's logical gives read and interacts with multiple people and situations. As scum he (echoing the words of Farside) "Waves his d around" which right now is on part for the course.

Bad scum.

Fuck I meant scum sala would not wall.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5953296

Whoops did I drop that?

Oh shit, you got me. You win. Hail scum.

Anyways, that's true, but it seems I have been having a scumslump where I can't play scum as well as I used to have, which is sad. If you don't believe me, here is some more recent games: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62118
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... lit=Zodiac

Now tell me how I am playing to this meta. I haven't.

Coming next, I talk about Bulba and PVscum.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Hey, so voting for a random person because I have few scumleans at that time is bad? I am getting bothered by this.

So instead of voting your scumlean, you vote randomly, not helping or providing information?

~Salamence

[The Blue Blur]

Bulbazoor

Look, I didn't want to push him. I really didn't want to push him. I've done it before in Long Lost Friends and I haven't caught him as scum yet. I didn't vote him even though I have some issues with his buddying of Matsin. Bulba has no playthrough with Matsin before other than the fact that Bulba knows Matsin is OP and such (ugh). Even for debate, his RVS is pretty poor too, voting the Pidgeon for "Reading"

150 posts later, his only reads are town on Pidgeon/Matsin/Blue, the only main players outside of Plotinus. And than confirms his RVS vote on Elusive, even though he was RVSing on Quoth. This is wrong! He says later that he was scumreading her, but as he said...

It is rvs.

Then he AtE's with Elusive and Perese.

Usually, I like to townread the people who ask if scum have daychat, but Bulba followed after Elusive, and Elusive is the kind of person who would fake it. Bulba doesn't get any town points. Finally,

Well, I am voting my scumread.

This is a contradiction.

PV next

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

singer why are you always town


never mind i first rolled scum only 1.5 years after i joined MS

[The Blue Blur]

~sonic

<3

[The Blue Blur]

Titus: Sala head is going to be LA for this week.

Im going to talk about PV today, Im sorry about not doing that yesterday, but my news director left me in charge of doing all the newscasts this week, so that comes first.

[The Blue Blur]

Why I believe PV is scum

He has 12 posts:

The first 3 are irrelevant to the gamestate.

His 5th is wifomy setup for a mislynch later on guised as a joke (been there done that).

6 and 7 are empty questions that mean little to nothing to the gamestate.

8 is nothing of value.

10 is nothing of value

that means 4 posts of his are actually something. PV should and has played better than this. This is shit and hes not a noob ala Riku so I don't get this.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Also,

'K, Klingon can die now.

Vote: Klingoncelt

.

I wish one day Matsin would dwell into her insane mind and tell everyone what shes thinking.

~Sala

WHY THE FUCK IS PLOT FROG SCUM PEOPLE. I NEED REASONS ON WHY BECAUSE HE/SHE/IT IS TOWN!!!!!!!!

~SALALALALALALALA

[The Blue Blur]

Also, I'm glad people want to ride Matsin's belief on Kling because Matsin is OP or some shit.

I'm not impressed

[The Blue Blur]

How so, miss elusive?

~Salalalalalalala

@Muffin: Call it exaggeration, but Ive never seen PV act like that.

[The Blue Blur]

Sala we need to talk

For now I have some read changes

And more reads

Bulb is obvtown
Elusive is likely town
Pidgeon frogplot maxwell singerobvtown

Klingon and triforce likely town

Oversoul obvtown

VOTE: gratituous
Sleeping pidgeon atm

[The Blue Blur]

I told you this guy is town. I might disagree or be unsure about 1 or 2 of the reads, but they otherwise mostly come from a town perspective

I have no problem putting him in my strong town pile now

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

Sonic, if you're town then you know I have a pretty good "identification of scum" radar but not a great get them lynched one. So help me, love.

i don't really know this dearie. our only completed game is one that should rather be left unsaid, and the rest are ongoing and I don't actually know how good your radar is


i'll trust that you're town though, kay? <3

[The Blue Blur]

... The grat vote was obviously not from Sally...

But I'll take that as a compliment. Why aren't you town reading our slot again?

[The Blue Blur]

I'm here and Going to follow up.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

@Elusive: Lol this was the same person damning this slot for some stupid reason, I don't feel like the Kling wagon is town driven. MS thinks Elusive is town and I think he can read her better than me so I'll live with it.

The Blue Blur - Salamence seems to be posting more and feels sticky to me, like scummy or just overly hyper. I need to hear more from Sonic side.

Ummmmm, have I posted that much, or is it just because 75% of these players want to lurk.

The Blue Blur: Sala, why are you so sure that the frog is town? To the point of yelling about it a lot. It's D1. Also, I really hate the 'PV is better than this and should be playing better than this' line, and I've VOTING PV. Well, right now anyways.

There was alot of posts earlier that people were saying that plot pinged their scumdars. I don't see why, as they are being more townier than Mastina and The Pidgeon.

Actually, I have been able to identify with accuracy your townplay before. Details will not be revealed, but I've seen your scumplay intimately thanks to modding it and been exposed to your townplay.

I used to say this about RedCoyote, then Dating game happened. I doubt Matsin is so godly that this metacheck is perfect.

Bulb is obvtown

Fuck

Elusive is likely town
Pidgeon frogplot maxwell singerobvtown

Klingon and triforce likely town

Agree

And I just realized something. Sonic and Sally share a hydra. Sonic and Sally. Anyone who gets the reference also gets a cookie.

I didn't even think about this lol.

What was the point of this question? This wavers m read tbh.

I don't know how a setup question in an Open makes us not town or not scum. It should be null.

I think I'm more important than a weeks worth of newcasts for real money as part of a job.

You are! however, I feel if I did an interview with you, you would be a boring person to talk to.

I'll take you word for it, since I don't feel like I've added a whole lot of value to the game at this point. But, I feel that about most of the posting by everybody.

As for playing better, since we are a few days into day1 and less than 30 pages (mostly of one-liners), you are better off asking me specific questions about specific things you want to know about. Otherwise, you're likely to get me posting only when I want to point out, share, ask, or otherwise comment on something.

Why are you playing like you did in Mafia Dating Game?
Feelings on Matsin?
Feelings on Bulba?
Feelings on us?
Feelings on Plotfrog?
Feelings on the other lurkers?

-----------------------

TELLTALEPIDGEON needs to say why they are not townreading us over Drizzx.

-------------------------------------

His posting just feels highly focused and not ...natural. I hate using that word in this case because it gets thrown around a lot and has lost some meaning, but thats what I'm thinking on him. Would actually say Grib is a preferred wagon for me.

This is a Sally towntell though. See Mafia Dating Game.

blueblur588 I complained about this in 594 and you still haven’t explained it. why are you screaming that we are town when nobody is questioning it? it makes me nervous about my townread on you because I'm paranoid that you're buddying me.

Excuse me, who the fuck are you? Why the fuck would I buddy someone I know, and Fuck Frogger for reasons that don't matter. There has been talk about you pinging people's scumdars and I want to know why, because I don't get it. People should be following you wayyyyy more than Matsin.

VOTE: Bulbazoor

This is some bullshit though. Way to try to revitalize a wagon that died some 5-10 pages ago because VI's = conftown.

I'll get reads after I talk with MS tonight.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Hi hi. Just got off the phone with Mr. Sonic, nice to meet ya.

Anyways, we like to go with this.

Town (No Random Order):
Pidgeon - Obvtown is obvtown
Singer - Percival was town, singer hasn't changed that.
ZZZX/Drixx - We both can read ZZZX well, also negative PR claim.
Plotfrog - Slight; Hesitance from MS because Plot is good, but I like to call them town.
Elusive - Town only because I'm not reading her shit and MS has a better idea.
Bulba - Metal convinced me that he is playing a towngame familiar to one he played.
Kling - Slight; We didn't like the wagon on this.
Muffin - Slight; Meta really, looks like his play in Alice3, but not as obvtown yet.
Oversoul - Town town town.
PV - MS says Town, I disagree here obviously, so whatever.
Matsin - Fuck this shit
Triforce - Slight.
Maxwell - This is the slot we both agree will flip scum because we are townreading it lol

Scum (No Random Order):
Gratuitous - No amount of noobish play is going to change this thought.
Grib - Slight; Not liking anything out of here, possible WK on ZZZX/Bulba
Prolasped - Slight; Needs more posts to get a definite read.
Atum - Really bad look after synching up ISOs.


IDK:
Riku - Plz Replace
LittleGumball - nothing much to say about this, we have hesitance to call it town.
The Goat - Needs to post more

VOTE: Atum

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

sally has a really good voice!

[The Blue Blur]

Oversoul obvtown

explain please?

Oversoul hates playing scum. If he's posting at a rate that does not resemble a dead penguin, he's town.

[The Blue Blur]

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

Bulba - Metal convinced me that he is playing a towngame familiar to one he played.

Link?

-Frog

Remember that game where Bulba was a Town BP? Where you got wrecked by Scum BBT?


...

That was me~

♥



~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

Elusive - Town only because I'm not reading her shit and MS has a better idea.

Better idea of what?

-Frog

of her meta and her playstyle. duh.

[The Blue Blur]

♥♥♥

[The Blue Blur]

talk to me about how you think that bulba is scum even though he's obv newb?

[The Blue Blur]

i've also played a couple of marathons with him during the week. was rather fun

[The Blue Blur]

unless you're a daycop, i dont see how you can reach that.

i'm reading him as newb town. sala agrees with you that he looks scummy though.

[The Blue Blur]

its not like "nah, i don't think bulba is scum", thing,

it a "oh, bulba is town", thing

like

yea

[The Blue Blur]

so you think scum would make a "towncase" on me? lol

i agree it was lol. but would scum do it??


i didnt see the plot point

[The Blue Blur]

that's a legitimately town thing to do.

i'll jsut check and see what's that about in his ISO, okay?

[The Blue Blur]

having unique thoughts is a town thing to do. that indicates that he is thinking about the game

unfortunately sally does not agree with this theory

that also explains his scumread on bulba, i suppose.

[The Blue Blur]

LOL. that would be a mentor hydra.


but at least he is more active than zzzx

[The Blue Blur]

i remember the days, when zzx would post more than bulba. he would be on point. at the top of the game.

all of it is gone.......... oh the days of his prime!!

[The Blue Blur]

having unique thoughts is a town thing to do. that indicates that he is thinking about the game

unfortunately sally does not agree with this theory

that also explains his scumread on bulba, i suppose.

Unique thoughts often town, but it can be scum (you saw my unique thoughts on Ducky in bees)

Calling attention to yourself having unique thoughts is not town motivated.

your thoughts on ducky weren't unique. she was our designated mislynch. we were just working as a team to spew as much damage onto her as possible.

and do you think that bulba is skilled enough to do that? its bulbazoor, mind you, not bulbazak

[The Blue Blur]

They were absolutely unique.

I was the one to devise the theory on why she fake claimed backup IC.

I was the one to point out her weird stances on ETL and RC/UT and NM and her weirdly stalled wagon D1 (which was planned by us)


Now you're just hard defending bulb by fake discrediting my play in bees. You should listen to Sally on this one.

That's not the same thing. You were creating and explaining arguments for why Lala was scum. Bulbazoor in this content is creating original arguments and an original scum read on a player nobody was scum reading. The latter is less likely to be done by scum.

And that was a dick ending. It looks like we are done here. Then we will see who is right later.

-sonic

[The Blue Blur]

i caught up


singer, policy vigging is wrong.

[The Blue Blur]

next thing is that i cant shake off this gut feeling that singer is playing scummily in the previous few pages. her tone is not right. her complaints about here and her complaints in WTP are different. but then again there are town vibes like


i think she could a very possible SK yeah

[The Blue Blur]

also poor elusive. i liked her.


on that note, bulba and muffin get a stronger townread from me

[The Blue Blur]

OMG YES.

AP/Oversoul, I specifically want to know how you feel about my comparison to Wisdom with elusive, and how both of their actions were scum motivated. Do you agree? If not, why?

you didn't ask me, but i'm butting in anyway cause im a rude fuck

wisdom is a unique player. none can compare to him. and elusive is miles apart from wisdom. if i were to draw comparisons to "angry female" then i'd say closest comparison is LLD


~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: klingon

Wagon

This game looks toxic as fuck

this game is not actually toxic

[The Blue Blur]

is that a crime?


anyway males rage and females rage differently. its the truth.

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: klingon

Wagon

This game looks toxic as fuck

this game is not actually toxic

So rude.

I see why my predecssor scum read you lol.

Reads still waiting, on my mobile.

why is it rude? can you/anybody explain it to me?

for real?

[The Blue Blur]

Singer, have you supported policy lynches in other games? If so, links plz

She has. She tried policying me and wisdom (and Titus) after we steamrolled the shit out of Purple.

[The Blue Blur]

I have this really bad garciaing habit that I really should stop

[The Blue Blur]

What?! Bulba has been doing plenty of scumhunting...

He's still a strong town read of mine


Singer slot could be "scum" as in "SK scum". I do see it.

[The Blue Blur]

~sonic

Explanation: her responses to elusive felt unnatural as compared to her normal town play. It's like it's distorted and warped. So it's my gut feeling (or I'm just bad at explaining things)

[The Blue Blur]

Hi just checking in really quickly.

Im not sure why we are pushing bulba anymore and I challenge Plotfrog to check out Atu,, who hasnt posted in nearly 2 days, also Grib.

~Sala

[The Blue Blur]

Plot, Sonic has convinced me that Bulba is not a good lynch today and will be valuable later on.

As much as I enjoy lynching Bulba earlier, Im afraid Im quite pissed you waited until AFTER the extent of the Bulba wagon dissappated, you were busy attack others and catching up Plot.

I dont like your pushing.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Its best not to explain why.

If youre as smart as you claim to be as town, you will realize why Im not voting him and start going other places.

(Bringing it up is antitown)

[The Blue Blur]

What?! Bulba has been doing plenty of scumhunting...

He's still a strong town read of mine


Singer slot could be "scum" as in "SK scum". I do see it.

defend your buddy harder. Also, are you selectively scumhunting? Is the SK a bigger threat to your faction than the mafia?

This is itself is weak. Why do you keep assuming I was asking for towncred when I have expressed that I do not care how you read me. I care a h out soling the game and singer is scum. That overall point he qas making is bad comparison with two players tha t are not the same person.

Hi just checking in really quickly.

Im not sure why we are pushing bulba anymore and I challenge Plotfrog to check out Atu,, who hasnt posted in nearly 2 days, also Grib.

~Sala

I'm not interested in pushing on the lurkers right now and i had weak townvibes from Atu anyway. If they haven't posted in 2 days, they'll be prodded. I'm not the mod.

Yet to answer? Perhaps the most important part of my read is how they completely compare two different players. And perse was scummy.

The most important part of your read on singer is that she used pattern recognition when she found herself in a similar situation to one she had been in before? That's how this game is played. "Wait a minute I've seen that before" is a legit scumhunting tool.

--Plotinus

i hate this post, so im just going to put this here and say that im ignoring it

[The Blue Blur]

btw atum's recent posts are obvscum

VOTE: atum

[The Blue Blur]

klingon is still town

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

littlegumball is also town

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

littlegumball is also town

~sonic

not sure if real opinion or ironic sarcasm

both, actually

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: Gratuitous

We are fine with this lynch over the others.

The day has gone long enough.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

We also came to an agreement that PV is loltown.

Lol

~Still sally

[The Blue Blur]

We also came to an agreement that PV is loltown.

What changed your mind about it?

metal sonic's private message on skype did.

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

From what I learned, PV is a compulsive lurker more as town apparently now.

~Sally

Also Grat has only 20 posts and its not much in relevant content.

[The Blue Blur]

I am 100% sure Oversoul is town and 98% sure that PV is town,

[The Blue Blur]

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

That's a lot of words to explain "I don't give enough ducks about this game".

It's ok, I face it too

We thank you for your effort and also your indirectness

[The Blue Blur]

-sonic

[The Blue Blur]

Sonic has better meta cases on PV then mine.

A while ago, I dont remember him being a lurksack like he is now. He was a scum lurker in Mafia Dating Game.

Ive played with him in multiple games (notably Revolution Mafia as town and Zodiac as scum) and he doesnt seem to lurk as either alignment. According to sonic its alignment null.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

This game is losing a lot of motivation. We need a lynch.

[The Blue Blur]

in an hour or so I will come in here and post (and quote this) from our hydra. But I need to go fast now.

Why I posted this post in particular... is beyond me too.

This never happened

[The Blue Blur]

Titus can we get a VC

[The Blue Blur]

Official Vote Count 1.14

Gratuitous

(6): Quoth The Pidgeon, Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, Firebringer, The Blue Blur, Banana Frog

Klingoncelt

(5): mastin2, Atum, Muffin, PeregrineV, Grib

Bulbazoor

(2): Gratuitous, TriforceP

Oversoul

(2): Drizzx, LittleGumball

PeregrineV

(1): Oversoul

The Goat

(1): Klingoncelt

singersigner

(1): Bulbazoor

Firebringer

(1): singersigner

Not Voting

(2): MaxwellPuckett, The Goat

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-23 15:53:43)

Anyone not on Kling/Grat at this point is antitown.

Seriously, we need to get this game moving!!!

Sally

[The Blue Blur]

/34.

I feel like doing this for the moment.

vote singer

.

Note the tag, lack of colon, and whatnot.

It's past 3 am, so I should probably be getting to bed.

Sorry.

VOTE: Peregrine

I think this is the righteous wagon of glory.

I am sorry, PV. I think you drew scum.

Both of these are shit

[The Blue Blur]

We have 50 pages, tons of interactions, but alot of replacements and apathy.

A night phase will help us out.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Singer shut up and vote Grat/Kling.

You can read me as scum tomorrow.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Singer shut up and vote Grat/Kling.

You can read me as scum tomorrow.

~Sally

Gonna need a large incentive to vote Grat. He looks pretty townie to me. Why do you think he is scum?

Vote kling then

[The Blue Blur]

Grat hasnt done much, it looks like fake scumhunting.

[The Blue Blur]

Also 19 out of 1272 posts

[The Blue Blur]

@Singer

Also, Blue Blur might be scum.

No. Seriously no.

(Unless you are scum, continue doing what your doing, but if you are town, stop. seriously).

~Who do you think? (Obvsalaisobv)

[The Blue Blur]

Piss vote Grat and you can catchup during the night

[The Blue Blur]

So let me get this straight.

We have had a few replacements and people catching up.
We have a few players that are lurking and almost dont care.
We have 2 dueling wagons and people want to dismantle both of them by voting other people for silly reasons (see: Matsins Singer vote, Gumball's vote on me, and Kling's grib vote)

And you guys want to stall the game and blame me for it. Why? You think Kling and Grat are both town?

If not, you are purposefully trying to ruin the game. We have 50 pages, a shitton of lurkers and people that dont give much of a shit when we are near a lynch and people want to twiddle their thumbs and start random wagons this late into day 1. Yeah ok.

Im not the only one who understands this. See:

K let's go.

A flip is going to give us much-needed infos and this game has really stalled.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gratuitous

But when I say it, Im scum. But Muffin agrees with me that we need to move the game along.

So unless you have a fucking case on why Grat AND Kling are town, vote one and lets go.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

@Kling: Have any thoughts about how youre voting me despite claiming Grib/Piss are scum?

Have any thoughts on why you suddenly call us scum despite Muffin saying the SAME THING.

Have any thoughts on the lack of apathy coming from people such as Matsin and Gratuitous and ZZZX when you bitch about how we have a week and a half left despite half the playerbase lurking or not giving a shit

[The Blue Blur]

Kling, do you have a response?

[The Blue Blur]

Plot, are you a meta player? Because if you are, I recommend you check up mafia dating game show and see how Metal plays the game (not using logic as much, more gut) and how I like to play the game (I love to get the game moving in anyway I can, and I hate when a game stalls). That should answer how sonic came to establish those reads. Not to mention when I talked to him last week, he gave me the reasons for each person that we both agreed on (with the exception of bulba and PV at the time).

In fact you should compare mafia dating game Day 2 to today, and you will see THE EXACT SAME PLAY IM DOING HERE.

I dont know how many expierences you have in Day 1s in larges, but if the day stalls, mafia then can try to control the lynch by voting outside a wagon and trying to dismantle a main wagon (we have Klingon and Gratuitous, while we have people voting us and Kling keeps swinging around).

You need to understand that Gratuitous is a good lynch, and if its not, we should get kling, unless you can vouch they are both town.

The mafiascum meta for not wanting to speed up lynches when days stall is getting tiresome.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Since everyone wants to vote us for wanting to speed up the game, please look at the bottom. You guys seem to be missing this and want to tunnel me for some reason.

K let's go.

A flip is going to give us much-needed infos and this game has really stalled.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gratuitous

I'm not liking Muffin much.

Witness the continuing attempt to generate a slow, traceable progression of reads leading up to voting me at some future date.

Bet Klingon can't produce a quality case with concrete examples/citations for why I'm scum.

Your reason is bad and you should feel bad.

[The Blue Blur]

Meh. I usually want to tunnel Sala, but he's town here, and in a hydra

Hi are you town? Sonic and I thought that Goat posts more as town and now that he replaced out we dont know.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Questions that don't go anywhere, very minor amounts of read progression, nitpicking of case on him in a series of increasingly small details instead of scumhunting the people pushing it.

Also Klingon is more probably town than not.

As a random note, how do you feel about Maxwell?

I know this wasnt pointed at me, but Sonic and I think hes town, but wouldnt surpise us if he flipped scum.

[The Blue Blur]

please realise that blue blur is obvtown and BBMolla is not in this game.

thanks

~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

i'm sorry for being helpful

I have to snip most of this post because it's all laced with salt

i won't say it ever again

im sorry for having a helpful hydra partner too who is intending to move the game forward

maybe my partner should be more useless like the rest of you jokers

[The Blue Blur]

Meh. I usually want to tunnel Sala, but he's town here, and in a hydra

Hi are you town? Sonic and I thought that Goat posts more as town and now that he replaced out we dont know.

~Sally

this is wrong. goat is the biggest lurksack of lurksacks in this game. he's worse than pere.

[The Blue Blur]

OMFG CONFIRM VOTE BLUE BLUR SJSKXKNQJXJF

you want to get rid of me, you're going to have to shoot me.

[The Blue Blur]

this is wrong.

Are you trying to tunnellynch me like in that marathon? I'll have to kill you out of

spite

policy.

I'm sonic. What's your name?



~sonic

[The Blue Blur]

Do you guys remember that ZZZX is in a hydra? Cant drixx talk about stuff either or what?

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

<snip>
Muffin has to be doing more than screaming x is scum for reasons if he doesn't have a thin iso

When have I specifically stated that I'm talking about muffin? I am talking about in general people in this game.



honestly i am so done with this game right now

Do you still think that your vote on us (because "annoying") is the best place your vote can be?

[The Blue Blur]

Froggy frog back...what did I miss?

-Frog

You still think bulba is scum?

[The Blue Blur]

Idk if I can talk sonic into Klingon. I do kinda think shes town though as well.

Gratuitous is better his catchups arent anything impressive and kinda seem like putting blame on others that can be lynched (Bulba and us) in hopes he can dismantle his wagon.

[The Blue Blur]

For the rest of he people voting me. I'm still reading Banana Frog and Muffin hard town, and to me Flubbernugget's thought process has been pretty transparent, so I'm going lean town.

I'm in two minds on TBB, as admittedly the game has slowed so there's something to be said for trying to re-ignite it, but I didn't like how he(they?) were trying to almost force people onto a wagon to end the day. That itself feels anti-town, and opening the door for scum to get on a mis-lynch wagon without having to explain their votes is never a good thing.

As for the remainder I'm more inclined to believe the QTP's continued tunnel on me is townish, and I'm not really sure on Firestarter & Prolapsed (@Prolapsed, any chance you can follow up on the read-list mentioned in #1129?)

Well, that was an interesting wagon that developed in my absence. Why I am I not surprised to see my two biggest scum reads (Bulba & Triforce) jumping on the wagon late with little reasoning (Bulba) or Triforce's #1318 where he sounds more concerned about a mislynch than solving, and then in #1329 he then jumps on the wagon when the only thing that had changed is that a person he had been scum-reading and voting for a long stretch of the day (Bulba), jumps on. that seems rather contrived to me.

Idk why or how to explain it, but this looks like something of what scum would post rather than town.

Let me try, I think hes been tunneling the two same players in his 20 post iso (Bulba and Tri) in hopes he can dismantle his wagon, which is something I do as scum. He also puts some blame on sonic and I as if we were scum, even though we arent mentioned much in his iso either.

This looks like scum tunnel vision. Something where he feels scared of an actual lynch and tries to pin it on someone who can counterwagon rather than look at the whole game.

[The Blue Blur]

We need to talk sala. I am getting cold feet that grat is now town and I think we should flash wagon grib instead. Gut feeling

I will write a case for you townsfolk as well so you guys don't get a shocked

Actually bro, I am townreading the exact 3 posts. Goddamnit!

For me, the lack of self awareness and not freaking out at his own lynch suggests that he's town that has no idea that he is supposed to save his own ass, rather than scum who is trying to get rid of the lynch. I am townreading the aloofness that I see commonly from been town

[The Blue Blur]

I guess the real question to ask is if both Kling and Grat wagons are town?

I mean, theres been a lot of defense and resistance to Grat over kling, which makes me think Grat is a scum wagon by town.

[The Blue Blur]

I dont think we could create a counterwagon on Atum/Grib today.

[The Blue Blur]

Not sonic. I did it.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

when i was newer in the game i was feeding. i didnt roll scum until like being on the site for 1.5 years. so i started from a better record.


also, you went to my wiki. leave a love message please <3

[The Blue Blur]

also, thanks for the burn oversoul.

i have a thick skin.

ilu bby <3

[The Blue Blur]

where have i shown an ego in this thread?


then how do you know that i have a low town winrate w/o looking at my wiki? zzz

[The Blue Blur]

and if you simply cut the games from 2014 forwards my winrate will calculate as ~60-65%


/desperatedefense

[The Blue Blur]

You know whats sad.

Like really sad.

Matsin makes a reads post and people do something about it but when we post something and ask for feedback to get the game rolling, everyone shrugs us off and calls us scum. Life is so unfair

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Also, bout time froggie

[The Blue Blur]

I'm not really going to be around until late Sunday because of it but I'm willing to vote whatever wagon's the largest at this point just to get the game moving.

OMG SINGER IS CONFSCUM FOR WANTING TO END DAY EARLY.

RIGHT!? RIGHT!?!?

/Sarcasm, but really day needs to end.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

I am 100% sure Oversoul is town and 98% sure that PV is town,

So who do you think is scum. I see a fuckton of town reads from your slot, but not many scum reads besides gratuitous and maybe singer as the SK

This is a

lie

. Our posts clearly show that we are scum reading atum and grib and a simple ISO of us will show this. You are not bothering to scumhunt us and put in the effort to read us properly, but are instead asking pointless questions that try to throw shade on us but not actually have a real intent of understanding are alignment.

If I am wrong and this question is meant to be useful then please explain how now.


-sonic

[The Blue Blur]

Hi hi. Just got off the phone with Mr. Sonic, nice to meet ya.

Anyways, we like to go with this.

Town (No Random Order):
Pidgeon - Obvtown is obvtown
Singer - Percival was town, singer hasn't changed that.
ZZZX/Drixx - We both can read ZZZX well, also negative PR claim.
Plotfrog - Slight; Hesitance from MS because Plot is good, but I like to call them town.
Elusive - Town only because I'm not reading her shit and MS has a better idea.
Bulba - Metal convinced me that he is playing a towngame familiar to one he played.
Kling - Slight; We didn't like the wagon on this.
Muffin - Slight; Meta really, looks like his play in Alice3, but not as obvtown yet.
Oversoul - Town town town.
PV - MS says Town, I disagree here obviously, so whatever.
Matsin - Fuck this shit
Triforce - Slight.
Maxwell - This is the slot we both agree will flip scum because we are townreading it lol

Scum (No Random Order):
Gratuitous - No amount of noobish play is going to change this thought.
Grib - Slight; Not liking anything out of here, possible WK on ZZZX/Bulba
Prolasped - Slight; Needs more posts to get a definite read.
Atum - Really bad look after synching up ISOs.


IDK:
Riku - Plz Replace
LittleGumball - nothing much to say about this, we have hesitance to call it town.
The Goat - Needs to post more

VOTE: Atum

~Sally

Hi froggie.

Please play beter. Thanks. Now vote grat. Im thinking Kling is dumbtown, which makes sense based on her play in YCBA3 from what I remember.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Ill talk to sonic about it later (Sally here)

[The Blue Blur]

I'm still sus about Quoth but I can't for the life of me articulate a good reason why. Certain things they say just set me off but if you look at those phrases subjectively, there's really no problem with them.

Im not sure why Blue Blur quoted their own readslist and then told plotfrog (or just Fro99er?) To play better. Also, they just reminded me of their Grat scumread that 'no amount of noobish play would change'. Don't really like.

I have more to say but I'll do it later when I have my laptop.

Pedit: Quoth, you're talking about their request for a roleblock/jailkeep at the beginning of the day, right?

I quoted it because Frog was saying that we had no scumreads.

[The Blue Blur]

That's wrong. I never said you had no scumreads. I said the only scum reads I saw were Singer and Grat and asked if you had any others.

If you had bothered to read two posts up from you quoting your own reads list and telling me to play better, you would have seen I said I do see now that you scum read two others as well.

So why don't you play better.


Also -- earlier you told people to get on Kling or Grat wagons. Why now taht I'm on the Kling wagon is that bad? I thought you were in a hurry to end the day.

Do you think both are scum? Town? One of each?

Im starting to think Kling is town vs Grat.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

I hope sonic talks to me soon

[The Blue Blur]

Do you think Kling's reactions to everything is scummy?

Because it looks like town that dont give a fuck.

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

sonic never talked to me until like 4am my time. Meh.

*Sally*

Also Im waiting for some discussion from lurkers.

We seem to be at a standstill with Kling and Grat at L-3.

Where is Grat, like I said, hes trying to dismantle his wagon on others in hopes of a mislynch. Meaning the scum are probably on Kling's.

Please vote Grat. Thank you.

Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Official Vote Count

Gratuitous

(8): Quoth The Pidgeon, Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, Firebringer, The Blue Blur, Muffin, Bulbazoor, TriforceP

Klingoncelt

(8): Atum, PeregrineV, Grib, pisskop, MaxwellPuckett, mastin2, Banana Frog, DRizzx

The Blue Blur

(2): singersigner, LittleGumball

PeregrineV

(1): Oversoul

Bulbazoor

(1): Gratuitous

Grib

(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-23 15:55:43)

Theres atleast 1 scum off the dueling wagons, give me Grat for sure and probably Gumball.

[The Blue Blur]

Does sonic still disagree with you about Grat?

-Frog

Yes. He also thinks Kling is town, which pisses me off because I dont believe we have 2 town wagons here since scum havent hammered either.

[The Blue Blur]

Pretty sure I did that as town before in hardcore.

Not to mention Kling is kinda an antitown player as town.

[The Blue Blur]

Its because I sympathize for Kling being wagoned as such and being pissed for it.

It seriously looks like frustrated town than lolidc scum.

[The Blue Blur]

Also we are 63 pages in with lurkers and such.

Do you have more expierence with Klingon that you could persuade me?

[The Blue Blur]

Grat and Kling are L-3. Make your choice singer.

Tunnel vision on town, congrats.

[The Blue Blur]

*Impatiently taps foot*

[The Blue Blur]

I really don't think Kling is scum, but I am willing to vote her just to end this day so I can focus my attention somewhere.

this is STILL your mindset? really?

Unvote
Vote: Oversoul

Oversoul?

Are you fucking serious?

JFC

[The Blue Blur]

I really don't think Kling is scum, but I am willing to vote her just to end this day so I can focus my attention somewhere.

this is STILL your mindset? really?

Unvote
Vote: Oversoul

Like really? THERE ARE TWO FUCKING L-3 WAGONS, ONE IS ATLEAST CONFSCUM BASED ON HOW NO ONE HAS HAMMERED OR SHIFTED.

THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SCUM.

[The Blue Blur]

No vote yet singer?

[The Blue Blur]

Gratuitous

(8): Quoth The Pidgeon, Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, Firebringer, The Blue Blur, Muffin, Bulbazoor, TriforceP

Klingoncelt

(8): Atum, PeregrineV, Grib, pisskop, MaxwellPuckett, mastin2, Banana Frog, DRizzx

The Blue Blur

(2): singersigner, LittleGumball

PeregrineV

(1): Oversoul

Bulbazoor

(1): Gratuitous

Grib

(1): Klingoncelt

Theres atleast 1 scum off the dueling wagons, give me Grat for sure and probably Gumball.

Personally, I'm looking more at singer than Gumball. Grat/Kling staying off of each other, though, is certainly interesting. It does

vaguely

support the idea of it being dueling scum-scum wagons.

In actual news,

Persival looked really really town when replacing out though, why Im hesitent on Singerscum.

Even though all her posts have TBB is scum in them.

[The Blue Blur]

Singer/Grat(Kling)/Grib(Gumball)/Atum

~Sally

[The Blue Blur]

Gumball's reaction is probably town, regardless of Kling/Gratuitous's alignments.

Doesn't stop it from being irritating. (Even though you're probably wrong.)

Now that you're back, any chance for the read-wall you mentioned in #1129?

Are you serious?

You have nothing to add? Nothing about Klingon? Nothing about Matsin suggesting you both are possibly scum?

ANYTHING!?

[The Blue Blur]

Nice misrep Grat. Im glad calling you out made you do something.

Your answers involving self meta are shit and its pretty obvious that someone is probably scum of you two. Im just running hypotheticals of all 3 scenarios. (TT, TS, SS).

[The Blue Blur]

KLINGON YOURE NOT GETTING GRIB.

VOTE GRAT AND STOP STALLING YOUR (POSSIBLE) SCUMBUDDY.

For fuck sake

[The Blue Blur]

Get in your damn Hydra Froggie

[The Blue Blur]

Exactly what is the case on me, by the way?

I know that there isn't one, I just want to watch Scum stutter.

I feel like you said something like this 20-30 pages ago.

I fucking hate both of you.

[The Blue Blur]

Kling L-2
Grat L-2

[The Blue Blur]

Gumball and Grat are off the wagon. Someone on Klings wagon needs to move to grat

[The Blue Blur]

Also this is the sickest wagon battle Ive ever seen

[The Blue Blur]

FROGGIE MOVE TO GRAT PLOX.

Thxbai.

[The Blue Blur]

Piss and Matsin would be good canidates to move over too please.

I would ask ZZZX to move, but he would probably lurk til deadline to do so

[The Blue Blur]

klingon shut up

[The Blue Blur]

Your reads are shit.

Matsin always does this shit

[The Blue Blur]

(Brings up reference when Matsina Fucked me as town in the wire)

[The Blue Blur]

Id lynch grat over kling.

Other than reguritating this information that is known already because youre on the wagon, have anything else to say?

1. Are the two wagons TT, TS, or SS?
2. How do you feel about Singer and Gumball, the two ppl off the wagon?

[The Blue Blur]

Firstof all, I have already elaborated on the first one. I have explained that kling is town based on rereads of pat games and graat is scum. So it is s and t for me.
Again, you are being stubborn to the factI have explained it already. Little seems town. Singer.... I do nkt want to repeat myself.

So you feel angry for repeating that information, but

Id lynch grat over kling.

You are fine bring this up again?

[The Blue Blur]

Grib would also be a fine lynch. We have time. We can still go there.

Grib would also be a fine lynch. We have time. We can still go there.

He'd be perfect.

Get some people over there and I'll be more than happy to switch back to him.

Dismantling these wagons at this point is largely anti-town.

We will have a lot of information regardless of which one flips, as they both arent town most likely.

Taking off people on both wagons in attempt of a 3rd counterwagon is a terrible idea.

[The Blue Blur]

Official Vote Count 1.19

Gratuitous

(9): Quoth The Pidgeon, Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, Firebringer, The Blue Blur, Muffin, Bulbazoor, TriforceP, Klingoncelt

Klingoncelt

(8): Atum, PeregrineV, Grib, MaxwellPuckett, mastin2, Banana Frog, Drizzx, singersigner

PeregrineV

(1): Oversoul

Bulbazoor

(1): Gratuitous

Oversoul

(1): LittleGumball

Not Voting

(1): pisskop

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-23 15:55:42)

We have Oversoul off the wagons for some reason.
Grat is being dumb, and to all of those arguing that hes using selfpreservation, then why hasnt he voted Kling?
Gumball is either VI or scum who doesnt want to lynch either one (suggesting SS wagons)
Pisskop is being Pisskop, he needs to get on.

[The Blue Blur]

PV, Flubber, Drixxx, and Grib need to start talking though before the flips however.

Empathis PV and Grib

[The Blue Blur]

Sala's thoughts only:

Obvtown Slots:
Pidgeon
Muffin
Bulba

Probtown slots:
Drizzx
Oversoul
PV
Matsin
Plotfrog

Borderline Null slots:
Piss
Kling
Prolasped
Maxwell
Fire
Flubber

Scummy slots:
Gumball
Singer
Triforce

Scum slots:
Atum
Grib
Gratuitous

Id go into detail but Im waiting for sonic to fine tune some reads.

[The Blue Blur]

NO.

DO NOT.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[The Blue Blur]

Yes, I know its possible in the sense of time.

BUT ITS ANTI TOWN TO DO SO WHEN WE HAVE TWO WAGONS NEAR LYNCH THAT HAVE HEAVY RESISTANCE ON EACH.

THAT CAN NOT BE TWO TOWN WAGONS HERE UNLESS SCUM IS PLAYING REALLY REALLY BAD.

GET BACK ON GRAT

[The Blue Blur]

sonic says that he is for lynching grib as well

[The Blue Blur]

but sala's policies of having a healthy gamestate suggests that he would be very mad if i did that

[The Blue Blur]

Sonic's's thoughts only:

Obvtown Slots:
Oversoul
PV
Bulba

Probtown slots:
Pidgeon
Muffin
Matsin
Gumball
Plotfrog
Drizzx
Kling
Piss

Borderline Null slots:
Prolasped
Maxwell
Fire
Flubber

Scummy slots:
Singer
Triforce

Scum slots:
Atum
Grib
Gratuitous



scumreads the same, townreads shifted

[The Blue Blur]

i'll talk with sala later


for now, here is my vote of support (that will probably be removed 2 hours later)

VOTE: grib

[The Blue Blur]

VOTE: grib

*twitch*

*twitch*

[The Blue Blur]

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

[The Blue Blur]

JFC ARE WE REALLY DOING THIS.

THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND. WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS WAGON DOESNT GAIN ENOUGH MOMENTUM?

THEN WE WILL HAVE THREE FUCKING STILLWAGONS WITH NO CLAIMS OUT OF IT