FF7 Mafia (Game Over)

hiplop · Post Post #160 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:05 pm

mastin you think im town but i havent posted yet

hiplop · Post Post #166 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:16 pm

VOTE: mastin

somethingn mastin does as scum

hiplop · Post Post #461 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:00 pm

all of a sudden 12 pages behind. gonna catch up tonight ahha

hiplop · Post Post #698 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:53 am

catching up now, trying to make this brief. Gonna be active after this post

In post 26, ZZZX wrote:its all safe to assume we have at least 1 SK (sephiroth) . if this game was bastard then sephiroth could have started as town etc but this game isnt. oh well.

hes not really a lone wolf though? and flavour discussion is strange

In post 53, Aeris wrote:
In post 49, ProHawk wrote:
In post 43, Aeris wrote:
In post 39, ProHawk wrote:
In post 38, Aeris wrote: It would be a downright travesty if I also roled scum.

Why?

Besides my aversion to playing scum, have you not played ff7?

I have. What makes you think all the bad guys are scum and good guys are town?

What are you talking about?

I obviously named myself after one of my favorite ff7 characters. Boo I didn't role it. I hate scum, Aeris died to save the planet (and is the IC in this game), it would be a travesty if I roled my namesake while hating scum and being my namesake.

You're inferring a lot of weird stuff here that I never implied.

The only thing I did imply, by the by, was that there has the potential for being more than two anti-town factions. If you're actually trying to read me, why are you picking up on a joke about my name and not what actual game relevant stuff I've put into the thread?

https://youtu.be/3Pxq_pY5LAY
rip
(I joke around, but I really think this slot is town, because of this post which totally isnt gonna come from scum)

I only made the assertion that I didn't like playing scum once when you claimed I made an implication about the good guys. But seriously did you not see that aeris is the damn IC? I mean did you not?

YOU asked me questions, to which I responded.

You are focusing on jokes about my name and about me once, at the time that you asked me to clarify something I think should be super duper triple infant easy to understand if you'd played the game.

I don't get why you're focusing on me, and I think it's kinda weird and makes me think that you could be on a scum team with a select group of people.

not getting the whole prohawk thing? dude seems normal/town to me.

Mastin as of page 15 is still my top scumread. Dude is dodgy, trying to explain surving past day one...even though its day one? Sounds like he knows more than we do.

Jaqens catch up post was fishy as hell. Just called out a bunch of posts and added random nothing-snide commentary to the end? Dont like it at all. Trying to look useful. (pedit: Oh, I see people called him on this)

Varsoon looks town, but awkward.

In post 274, Scorpious wrote:UNVOTE: The Antagonist

RVS long gone..

why didn't you revote?

IrishPope is seeming very off to me and I'm not sure why? Weird...but town?

pretty sure the frog is town. funny that they dont agree with eachohter lol

I feel ya, Scorpious. For someone who's never played with any of these players before, it's really hard to follow what's going on. Is it customary to use the names of people participating in a hydra, rather than the name of the Hydra? Cause that shit is just impossible for me. I have to keep actively referencing the player list to make sense of 80% of what is posted.

unfortunately common. Can get quite confusing and I (think) thats why hydras are frequently frowned upon

@Hiplop Is this a serious vote?

Yes. MAStin was trying to get towncred from a ton of people for free. Hes scared of getting killed or whatever, and calls most people town thinking they wont shoot him if he townreads them. He seems like he has a leg-up on everyone else in the game. Ergo, scum.

everygame ive played with varsoon I remember him being snarky under pressure and getting lynched. He was town iirc, and is doing this now too? Dude is almost definitely town, guys.

The point is bragging rights. It's a statement of, "Hey, look, I'm so good, I was able to name Y players as town before they had even posted, just off of what I had available", essentially. (Also, gut, not to mention, having previous games factoring into my guess. Basically, know how I used to psychologically profile every single player in the game as scum, and make predictions off of that to help my scumteam? I do it as town, too, here: off of the gamestate and who the players are, I make predictions off of what they are.)

I dont claim to know how to read you but as an eternal newbie, this comes off as scum to me. Your performance this game. Regardless of other games. You're vying for survival, and that screams scum to me.

@singer, can you explain your vote on froggin? I think I missed something

all caught up. Currently would be fine with mastins/jaqens head. I will be more active now that ive read the thread. Sorry for that delay.

hiplop · Post Post #699 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:54 am

^ Feysal, pretty sure is town. Seems to not care about perception of self? Looking for real answers. Town to me.

hiplop · Post Post #707 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:49 am

In post 53, Aeris wrote:
In post 49, ProHawk wrote:
In post 43, Aeris wrote:
In post 39, ProHawk wrote:
In post 38, Aeris wrote: It would be a downright travesty if I also roled scum.

Why?

Besides my aversion to playing scum, have you not played ff7?

I have. What makes you think all the bad guys are scum and good guys are town?

What are you talking about?

I obviously named myself after one of my favorite ff7 characters. Boo I didn't role it. I hate scum, Aeris died to save the planet (and is the IC in this game), it would be a travesty if I roled my namesake while hating scum and being my namesake.

You're inferring a lot of weird stuff here that I never implied.

The only thing I did imply, by the by, was that there has the potential for being more than two anti-town factions. If you're actually trying to read me, why are you picking up on a joke about my name and not what actual game relevant stuff I've put into the thread?

In post 274, Scorpious wrote:UNVOTE: The Antagonist

RVS long gone..

In post 700, singersigner wrote:If I just said "hydra dissonance" it wouldn't make sense outside of context. Since you're caught up, I assume you read the context, especially the part where I explained my vote.

If you still missed it, it's because Mollie seemed to misunderstand Fro99er and how he felt about a game we recently played where I was scum and they both came to independent town reads of me. I ended up needing to replace out of the game (I blame quadz) but until that happened, they townread me, and though Mollie was implying Fro99er was upset about it. They started posting in the thread at the same time, Fro99er trying to correct Mollie's mistake, and Mollie still trying to explain because she was still misinterpreting what was going on. All of this was while they were on gchat talking about something not game related. I feel like if they were having a conversation irl, they could've easily gotten on the same page and not talked over each other trying to rectify the situation. It just looked like creating a lot of unnecessary public confusion. All of this was with me in particular, whom they both know in real life, and both know exactly how I feel about public hydra dissonance. A real time argument about what Fro99er meant never should've happened and I believe it only served to provide more confusion for everyone trying to follow along.

not going to lie, I was skimming quite hard! Damn. thats interesting, to be honest? Maybe they just have a stringent-no talking about game policy? Only text?

hiplop · Post Post #712 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:14 pm

[quote="In post 709, Scorpious"][/quote]

i very much prefer the one-voice method.

hiplop · Post Post #736 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:15 pm

I find dragon to seem town and titus to seems scum

what does this mean

hiplop · Post Post #760 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:04 pm

sonic, I dont think there is anyway varsoon is scum? dude just reeks of pissed off town

hiplop · Post Post #975 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:29 am

In post 968, TheIrishPope wrote:I like singer for town. Cool kids club:
Me
Singer
Antagonist
Nacho
hiplop

awh, I'm blushing

is it bad that i can't remember a single post by psychlone :\?

#963 from focus beam just rubs me the wrong way. Like, seems like ate but super fake!

hiplop · Post Post #1103 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:26 pm

I'd alternatively policy ZZZX who is never around when he should be and has yet to prove that he cares about the first few days of a game anyway, causing him to be an ambiguity late game that I don't want to have to deal with.

I wouldn't be opposed to this. Dude is IMPOSSIBLE to read and always survives until late game because he never does anything

I didn't mind Bulbas first post that singer/ focus pointed out, but this one (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7087894) bothers me, however. Don't like how fast his wagon crept up, though

hiplop · Post Post #1104 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:32 pm

^ TIP i actually find feysal to be one of the more townie folks around? I dont see what you see there?

hiplop · Post Post #1105 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:36 pm

right now I would prefer mastin but i think I'd settle for focus? don't like the other wagons

hiplop · Post Post #1119 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:00 pm

In post 1116, Focus Beam wrote:@Hawk, Join us on Bulba. It's a wagon of win IMO.

@hiplop, this is multiball. Also, my wagon jumped up just as fast, yet you had zero problem with it. Now that Bulba's getting wagoned, you do.

@Mollie/Singer, I am thinking that ika might be scum with Bulbazak or their townbeard. Are you seeing what I'm seeing?

@TiP, You've been saying a lot about who you don't like, and I disagree with most of it. Who do you like?

yours was incredibly slow?

hiplop · Post Post #1133 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:00 pm

@hiplop, no not really. My wagon started as a super fast RVS wagon and your vote was smack in the middle of it. Take a look at things again please.

Yeah, rvs wagon? real one was slow burning! Also I have yet to vote you this game!

Flubbernugget is totally scum, by the way. Just look at page 45 for evidence. What the fuck is that catch up lol?

@TIP i agree with Titus that 1065 looks quite town!

hiplop · Post Post #1153 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:02 pm

tip, i actually see what you mean with the avoiding culapability.

hiplop · Post Post #1186 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:55 am

^saints someone who is unfortunately another good candidate for a policy lynch

dude never makes any sense

hiplop · Post Post #1188 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:04 am

VOTE: psyclone

I can't remember a single thing they've said or done.

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:53 am

I feel like between constantly n calling everyone in this game regards and personally attacking Ika, I really don't want to play with someone this toxic. I like sally and actually get a town vibe from him. He's a really good player though so may be getting hoodwinked.

Titus lately just screams scum. I would still prefer mastin if anyone is down, but for half policy half scum read, I gotta

VOTE: focus beam

(Fwiw salamwnce I don't think you're a nobody

)

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:55 am

@Flubber I'll reply more in depth in 3 hours because I'm at work right now on my phone but basically just seemed like a regurgitation to what had already been said? Seemed like you were laying the seeds to jump on a bunch of various wagons rather b than actually saying what you thought!

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:56 am

Bulba is screaming town to me right now. Very particular about reading every post quite in depth and that's not likely to come from scum, I don't think

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:56 am

Bulba is screaming town to me right now. Very particular about reading every post quite in depth and that's not likely to come from scum, I don't think

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:57 am

Sorry bulb what do you mean?

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:58 am

Froggy who's shouldn't be in the cool kids club iyo?

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:58 am

TIP I also get you just don't think anyone's gonna bite on the feysal train today.

hiplop · Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:00 pm

Oh I did read that actually! I thought I replied to that haha! Basically just a tiny thing about the way you defended yourself. I'll reply morenat ten

hiplop · Post Post #1284 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:46 pm

In post 1246, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 1242, hiplop wrote:Sorry bulb what do you mean?

You said you had a problem with one of my posts, and I asked you what it was you had a problem with. I can understand you being at work and not able to read my wall of a catchup, but I'm still curious as to what your issue was.

Okay, I can't remember the exact reason. From the looks of things the post was just really aggressive to me? Came off as pissed-off scum thinking they were caught. I think youre town now, fwiw

psyclone, and anti is like conftown for looking in their direction cos no1 else will cos i can't.

As a founding member of the cool kids club, i agree with you.

For what it's worth of I'm regurgitating things before I've read them, it would only be scummy if I was copying the words of scum

fair enough, I guess?

sorry mastin in my head youre a boy! Seriously very sorry about that

hiplop · Post Post #1307 (isolation #27) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:25 pm

In post 1285, mastin2 wrote:Btw, happy scumday, Prohawk. I'm sad that the only thing I have in celebration is my willingness to vote you.

In post 731, Seiko x Naomi wrote:so hawk is also scum. good to know
Sounds about right.

Also, for the record, I do scumread Titus here, especially with her posting, so my vote COULD go back there, it's just that I feel I owe Sala the courtesy of potentially working together in case I'm wrong about Titus being scum. And maybe even if I'm not.

Buuuuuuuuuuuut, for the moment.
VOTE: ProHawk.

/31.

i dont get your reasoning? theres a big focus wagon and a multitude of reasons to put a noose around them, but you discredit the wagon for seemingly no reason what gives mastin

hiplop · Post Post #1308 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:25 pm

oh. nvm

hiplop · Post Post #1387 (isolation #29) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:37 pm

Now that the town version of focus beam is gone, lets lynch titus.

hiplop · Post Post #1416 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:27 am

Ewwwww. What a copout for "never being wrong about this slot."

Thats what i got out of that, too. Wouldnt be surprised if mastin and focus beam are scum seems like buddying!

hiplop · Post Post #1572 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:56 am

Vla until Sunday! Super busy week

hiplop · Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:11 am

I'm a bit behind but still shocked titus is alive? Caught making mountains out of molehills a ton and just being an overall nuscance

such a stalling wagon its ridiculous

hiplop · Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:10 am

Im 25 pages behind but making it my mission to catch up tonight! (After Big Brother

)

hiplop · Post Post #2082 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:30 pm

(still behind just chekcing for updates)

^ isn't that more of a classic scum lynch? Their buddies come in to derail the wagon and counterwagons form

hiplop · Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:46 am

Fresh, I don't know how you see Seiko scum here? Why would scum put themselves out there that hard?

hiplop · Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:55 am

My power is out right now just on data! I have some observations I wrote n down that I wanna mention about yesterday so will just be a bit

@kaboose, why would that be different? Wouldn't it be more people willing to go after you?

hiplop · Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:15 am

^ why varsoon?

hiplop · Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:10 pm

really not liking freshes reaction to his wagon. going all whiney-ate on us

hiplop · Post Post #2358 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:21 pm

its the speed of his tantrum that bothers me, crying and trying to AtE after like what, 5 hours?

hiplop · Post Post #2374 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:22 pm

In post 2369, singersigner wrote:Lynch Pool:
Fresh
Mollie
Probs still Seiko
FSS
ProHawk
Anyone else under 40 posts

what about right on 40?

hiplop · Post Post #2375 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:23 pm

? yeah, lynching because of someone being wrong never works out IMO

hiplop · Post Post #2376 (isolation #42) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:25 pm

why did flubber dieÉ nothing of value in that iso

so confused

hiplop · Post Post #2380 (isolation #43) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:53 pm

mollie ily and the way u tpye

hiplop · Post Post #2421 (isolation #44) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:29 pm

In post 2413, Psychlone wrote:Did you know that the word "seiko" can be 成功 which means "success" or 性交 which means "sexual intercourse"?

So they're synonyms ehhhhhh

hiplop · Post Post #2525 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:09 am

In post 2500, Varsoon wrote:I'd be G with a bulba push, tbh.
First commendable thing I can recall the Stool Sample slot doing.
Good stuff.

bulba reeks of town, what do you mean???

hiplop · Post Post #2527 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:36 am

just a reminder: zzzx is still in this game and is off vla and hasnt done anything

hiplop · Post Post #2577 (isolation #47) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:12 pm

shit, mastin still is in this game isnt he? why are we not putting any pressure her way?

hiplop · Post Post #2578 (isolation #48) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:13 pm

i also think singer/mollie are both town. semantic arguing, basially

hiplop · Post Post #2756 (isolation #49) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:53 am

im in a tough position, the three biggest wagons are 3 of my biggest townreads

gonna have to reevaulatue

hiplop · Post Post #2769 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:39 pm

im still rereading but fresh i want you to stay

i dont care about joindate!

dont let these egos bring you down

hiplop · Post Post #2806 (isolation #51) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:09 am

i prefer the psyclhone wagon to any others ones.

im used to them being less...invisible might be the word? no one wants mastins head today?

hiplop · Post Post #2827 (isolation #52) » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:18 pm

VOTE: psychlone

lets pick up some stream. games getting stagnant lets get some momentum

hiplop · Post Post #2873 (isolation #53) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:23 pm

@singer, why did you unvote psyclhone?

hiplop · Post Post #2875 (isolation #54) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:26 pm

arent "town tells" basically just trust tells and therefore modkillable?

hiplop · Post Post #2877 (isolation #55) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:33 pm

#robbed

hiplop · Post Post #2881 (isolation #56) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:38 pm

yea thats what im thinking. pushing you to talk about is sketchy ground IMO

hiplop · Post Post #2882 (isolation #57) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:39 pm

@singer honetly forgot gif was in psychlone. i hate hydras

hiplop · Post Post #2885 (isolation #58) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:58 pm

to me a hydra should be one cohesive voice between more than one person. i dislike when they sign posts and whatnot, personally. id rather them be two slots if theyre just gonna do their own thing, ya know?

and well he claimed doctor and kills were seriously lacking...

hiplop · Post Post #2887 (isolation #59) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:59 pm

i guess i believe him there

hiplop · Post Post #2889 (isolation #60) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:03 pm

shit now who do i vote

hiplop · Post Post #2897 (isolation #61) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:37 pm

@singer its more like the lead wagosn are people i see as town? seiko/bulb are my top town reads

psychlone was my compromise. i just have different reads than others rightnow it seems

hiplop · Post Post #2898 (isolation #62) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:38 pm

the other one i dont like is fresh and he just replaced out.

hiplop · Post Post #2899 (isolation #63) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:40 pm

id hate to side with mastin here but honestly prohawk hasnt done anything? pipes in to add nothing or throw a wagon off every so often

VOTE: prohawk

hiplop · Post Post #2903 (isolation #64) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:13 pm

i didnt mean to be rude! im sorry. poor wording on my part. basically im just getting a feeling of hollowness in your posts

however the rage that came from those 3 post kinda seems townie to me

gah i suck

hiplop · Post Post #2904 (isolation #65) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:18 pm

why do we have 6 people not voting? thats way too many.

im tired as fuck but im making it my priority tomorrow to make a proper reads list. i feel like I need something a bit more concrete to work off of

hiplop · Post Post #2906 (isolation #66) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:25 pm

^yeah and honestly i think i have a pretty solid amount of content this game? im just in a bit of an awkward patch right now. people disagree with my reads at almost face value. \"im going to give mastin the benefit of the doubt because of mysterious reasons" etc

like, i have no idea how people see seiko as scum? that slot is just oozing attempts to rethink situations and i just dont see that being scum (especially in multiball)
varsoon is also pretty clearly town in my eyes. dude is way too snarky/commanding attention/fearless to be scum
Bulba, again is CLEARLY paying a lot of attention to each post. Actively questioning, commenting etc.

and those 3 are the biggest wagons. pro was the biggest wagon:most scum ratio to me. Im sticking onto it for now but im going to look harsh at my reads tomorrow

hiplop · Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:51 pm

Have a few notes down and trying to get a holdnof this game

Feysal what was odd?

Of the main wagons I would prefer kaboose. I think.

I

hiplop · Post Post #2933 (isolation #68) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:00 pm

VOTE: kaboose

Only one of the wagons I support

hiplop · Post Post #3067 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:41 pm

is it bad that i cant remember a single thing said by FSS?

hiplop · Post Post #3068 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:42 pm

oh.

i think i see it

VOTE: fss

hiplop · Post Post #3069 (isolation #71) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:54 pm

kind of alarmed I didn't see it earlier!

hiplop · Post Post #3071 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:28 pm

@bulb, yeah feysals sick and depressed thing really made me raise an eyebrow a few times

hiplop · Post Post #3130 (isolation #73) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:53 pm

yeah seiko I kinda agree? like fss did seem towny before. I think that its the IC makes it a bit different

hiplop · Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:20 am

me too!

hiplop · Post Post #3189 (isolation #75) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:59 pm

VOTE: mastin

been wanting this wagon all fucking game. Lets finally kill this scum

hiplop · Post Post #3194 (isolation #76) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:20 pm

^ i'd also be happy to see him die

hiplop · Post Post #3196 (isolation #77) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:35 pm

oh no, not bulba. ZZZX is what I meant to be clear

hiplop · Post Post #3258 (isolation #78) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:10 pm

yeah, that fight between bulba and zzzx looks bad on both of them. i had a hard town read on bulba that i'm questioning a bit now after that

hiplop · Post Post #3273 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:25 am

Spoiler: scorps fate

hiplop · Post Post #3436 (isolation #80) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:59 pm

I believe I'm completely incapable of accurately reading Hiplop

im an enigma what can i say

have you even seen me as scum, cerb?

I'm checking with the mod on something, but I'm pretty sure this is a scum claim.

wait, what? explain this?

Wait, Feysal died?

I've been a defender of Varsoon all game, but this interaction is strange. I know varsoon has done crazy things as scum, and this seems like the sort of mini-gambit that could lead to towncred. you're still a town read, but this doesnt feel genuine

@mastin I'm not going to bother quoting all your walls here but is it bad that I think you might actually be town now? ugh. those were awesome catch ups.

UNVOTE: VOTE: zzzx
i'm tired of this guy, and think hes scum. like, i don't want to lose the game because he thinks hes the mafia hunting master

explain tip wagon? i think zzx makes more sense

hiplop · Post Post #3437 (isolation #81) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:00 pm

i have no idea how to read saint

hiplop · Post Post #3438 (isolation #82) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:01 pm

like, my two biggest townreads just voted one of my other townreads

what does this mean

hiplop · Post Post #3545 (isolation #83) » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:09 am

In post 3526, ZZZX wrote:Jaqen as a player who seen me lurk. And react answer me.

Am I overreacting so I am scum?

Isn't my reaction here just what I would do in every alignment (which you saw. A few times?l

Wouldn't it be lovely that people on me are the people I scum read.?

Yes I am not scum hunting further because I am 80%+ sure about my reads. Being ignored yet fucking again and knowing noons will follow my reads isn't helpful. And somehow people are scum hunting as if there is one scum team.

You guys... I wasted my fucking time getting those reads for the town. Just fucjig lynch me. Get this game done and release me from this shit so I can laugh at all of you in secret after you see how I aced the game reads wise just again. Last time ya all said its my fault for not acting until lylo. Waiting until they say its my fault for being vla for a part or being scummy.

VOTE: zzzx

Lynch me.

When I flip town lynch bulbs. If he flips scum lynch mastin. When he too flips scum lynch saint. After that if game wasn't solved then you all must go in shame. At least 3 scum are on my wagon. I am going to pull a nacho like the nightless.

ugh.

hiplop · Post Post #3668 (isolation #84) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:58 am

varsoon i thin ive posted far to much content to be in that group...

hiplop · Post Post #3672 (isolation #85) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:13 am

In post 3659, Varsoon wrote:Actually, I feel like I've been away from this game for so long that I really forget a lot of my reads. Honestly, I should write some more down. Anyway, here goes?
Aeris - Skeptical of this slot, I really am.
Bulbazak - I still don't know how to feel about my result on him and the fact we're still both alive.
Cerberus v666 - I like this guy. Doesn't make him town, but I am biased. I like his play a lot, I think.
pirate mollie - I really, really don't like Mollie's 'conftown' sort of status or how mollie played the previous day, but I can think of an actual reason for Town!Mollie to do that, although we should probably lynch her just to be safe? Idk. Cid softclaim?
hiplop, Jaqen Hghar, Kaboose - All completely slip my mind. I don't know. Ugggh. Aren't these replacement slots? Feels under-the-radar. Maybe scum among?
mastin2 - I actually think the logic here is sound and a lot of the posts ring as town mastin but I am also paranoid of this slot, so, y'know, that's what that is.
ProHawk - Oh I think Prohawk is town.
Psychlone - Uhhhhh nope. Can't really divine town or scum here, either. Reminds me of how weird Nacho was for me to read in Saki, so I don't trust myself to read this slot this time.
Saint - Probably, uh, scum? Actually, I'm blank here too. WHICH MEANS I WILL BE TURNING TO STONE SOON, GET IT GUYS, LIKE BLANK, LIKE THAT FF9 CHARACTER BLANK, HAHAA?
Seiko x Naomi - Bugs me a lot for the titus push and awkward stances. I actually do want a lynch here.
The Antagonist - Seriously, probably one of my actual scum reads as well and not just a paranoia or dumb-read.
TheIrishPope - I can't read Pope to save my life.
Varsoon - Oh hai, I work for the planet.

i've defended varsoon a lot this game, but this reads list is crap. he calls literally everyone in the game except prohawk and cerberus a viable lynch target?

sounds like hes laying the seeds for a huge amount of different wagons to potentially hop on

hiplop · Post Post #3682 (isolation #86) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:47 am

In post 3673, Varsoon wrote:fucking hell, that happens ANY TIME I POST A READS LIST
some butt walks in on their hindquarters and is all like
VARSOON DOESN'T HAVE DEFINITIVE READS
LOOOKS LIKE HE'S SOWING THE SEEDS
LOOOKS LIKE HE'S SETTING UP THE LYNCHES
LOOOKS LIKE HE'S JUST SHITTING AROUND

Man, get of my goddamn back. I was asked to give reads honestly and I gave them honestly. There's no other machinations or imaginary rubbish here, and your insistence that there is really bothers me. How do you reply to that? "Nuh uh!"
Yeah, my reads suck. Sorry.

im sorry

its usually a scummy thing to do. subtly say everyone is scum except 2/3 and then they dont have to give reasons to wagon hop. didn't know it was an always-thing, sorry. fwiw this crazy-scary-angry reaction solidifies my town read on you...i think

hiplop · Post Post #3684 (isolation #87) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:57 am

exactly !

i think I've got the handle on my read but he keeps doing sketchy things!

hiplop · Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:14 am

In post 3710, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 3707, The Antagonist wrote:(granted i almost never make one but still)

i wanted to see if you have more clairity right now....

also at this point is anyone opposed to rolecall? cus i feel like we have almost all the roles outed at this point

I don't think we have almost "all" the roles outed.

eta: I still am not sure what I am looking at cos the only way a 3 scumteam exists is if there have been missing nks every night. I was not "very" confused as you put it, I just didn't have enough to go on to know for sure if I was looking 2 or 3 scumteams. i am leaning right now on 2 cos that a nk has been missing every night just seems sort of implausible to me. if there were 3 teams there wld be 3 nks but the it wld be true for an sk as well unless the sk or third scumteam are not shooting for some strange reason. anyways no I don't have any useful insight to provide I mean otherwise I wld have already provided it yeah?

Could be a faction without a night kill?

I think its more likely 2 factions, though? Aeris role I think would be weird if there were 3?

hiplop · Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:18 am

yeah, thats why I think there are only 2 teams.

aeris role as town = a way to find out where the scum are voting. If there are more than 2 teams I think the role is weakened quite substantially

hiplop · Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:36 am

I get ya. to me the strength of the role appeared to be in negative results ala today (we know theres scum in that pool off zzx. A few of them are easy clears and youre left with 2/3 REALLY good lynch candidates)

but i get what you mean about positive results being strong too. Thought about it differently

hiplop · Post Post #3725 (isolation #91) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:59 pm

Varsoon
Cerberus
TiP
Jaqen
Kaboose

I do think we should lynch in here today. Theres a damn good shot theres a lot of scum in here, isn't there?

I personally feel best about a kaboose lynch

hiplop · Post Post #3736 (isolation #92) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:45 pm

In post 3731, borkjerfkin wrote:
Due to circumstances, I am required to remove both Nachomamma8 (Psychlone head) and Aeris from the game.

GuyInFreezer replaces Psychlone.
Looking for a replacement for Aeris.

whaaaat?

hiplop · Post Post #3818 (isolation #93) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:43 am

that doesn't even make sense. I am voting xotme cos aeris said that she only got results if there was MOAR then 1 scumteam on a lynch, that is why she did not ask to get results wrt ffs and why she did not vote the wagon. xotme is now saying that it is "1 scumteam or more" like no really the discrepancies are there.

mollie, i think you're wrong

xtoxm said

There is 0 or 1 non-town alignments on the ZX lynch wagon.

meaning there was NOT 1 or MOAR on the wagon. Same as aeris, just different wording?

with that, i think I believe xtoxm

hiplop · Post Post #3819 (isolation #94) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:44 am

0 or 1 being a negative result is the same as 2 or more being a positive result, basically

hiplop · Post Post #3823 (isolation #95) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:55 am

In post 3820, Seiko x Naomi wrote:What she's saying is that if someone selfhammers as scum and oyu have a sensor like that, why not check the wagon to see if two scumteams voted him? You already know one did.

because the power in that role comes from a negative result...?

hiplop · Post Post #3826 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:59 am

compare and contrast fss wagon to yesterdays with that information

if positive day one: elmo + 10 other people could be scum. thats not useful data...at all

yesterday we got a pool of like 6 people who inside them are MULTIPLE teams? thats beautiful

and yeah, i dont get mollies insistence. im pretty confident mollie is town and honestly this strengthens that read. I don't think scum would try this hard to sway the tides by herself.

hiplop · Post Post #3829 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:16 am

In post 3827, Xtoxm wrote:Nice to see that not everyone in this game thinks sensor is a scum role.

Also, it's cute that you all think I would replace into a scum role and contradict my predecessors fake claim in my first post.

Sorry, catching scum isn't that easy.

dont get ahead of yourself. I don't think it makes you town, I think it makes your role usage make sense. Very well could be a scum role

hiplop · Post Post #3834 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:20 am

In post 3832, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 3829, hiplop wrote:
In post 3827, Xtoxm wrote:Nice to see that not everyone in this game thinks sensor is a scum role.

Also, it's cute that you all think I would replace into a scum role and contradict my predecessors fake claim in my first post.

Sorry, catching scum isn't that easy.

dont get ahead of yourself. I don't think it makes you town, I think it makes your role usage make sense. Very well could be a scum role

Oh nevermind I overestimated you.

Just lynch me today then to confirm my info is real then town can proceed with the info.

Don't be a snarky butt. I don't think we should lynch you today, that would be silly. I'm saying you're not conf-town.

I think we should lynch from the pool of people off the wagon

VOTE: tip

Fine with this

hiplop · Post Post #3836 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:23 am

he's at l-1? damn

hiplop · Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:31 am

@mastin, who do you think we should lynch in that pool of 5? I'm open to any

strongest chance to hit scum imo

hiplop · Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:04 pm

fuck. all game i've scumread mastin and right when I start getting over that scumread, this happens.

mastin, can you explain your "conftown" thing?

I was going to come into this day voting jaqen. I doubt he made the results completely up. did you visit one of the dead bodies, mastin?

hiplop · Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:43 pm

I really think we should lynch jaqen or mastin? Like one of them is obviously not telling the truth. Why do yout hink jaqen would lie about this as town, mastin?

hiplop · Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:39 pm

I'm so confused. Literally every time I open this thread I come up with a new theory. The thing that makes me paranoid is mastins insistence that jaqen is town.

hiplop · Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:59 am

keeping jaqen and mastin alive gives me the heeby jeebies

gah

VOTE: cerb. You're right. It makes no sense for jaqen to do this unless hes been mislead. This is seriously one of the strangest moments in my entire mafia career

please, jaqen if you're lying and town PLEASE speak up.

hiplop · Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:09 am

4105 reads as town to me

what the hell is going on

hiplop · Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:18 pm

mastin I just woke up from a nap so a bit spacey but sorry who are you saying is targetting me?

hiplop · Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:20 pm

okay cool

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:08 am

v/la friday saturday sunday monday and tuesday!

mostly saturday and sunday just making sure. Heading back to school!

I'm still in a curfuffle with myself about htis game. Part of me is thinking that there is so much madness going on that I'm starting to suspect xtox? I don't think he should be lynched today but man my paranoia is getting to me

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:11 am

I don't like mastins pushing of certain role usage. That bothers me and I've thought she was playing to her scum meta all game. Before the role stuff she seemed town today though.

Anti is playing like anti scum. Cerb is scummy and makes sense via poe with sensor information. I feel so stupid right now.

I'm excited for a fresh set of eyes with radja. i think his slot is likely town, anyway.

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:39 am

anti lurks hard as scum! and ika kinda sold him out just now? also the fact of mollies jk thing, just the lines seem to be filling up on the antagonist. But again, hes on the wagon which makes me confused.

cerb, honestly it sucks but PoE. Offwagon is you, jaqen (who basically seems like incredibly stupid or town, most likely town), xtoxm (who is the one who claimed that info, anyway) and kaboose who apparently is town.

Actually...Mastin, how sure are you that kab00se is town, again? I feel like I cleared him in my head and I'm not sure why. He seems considerably worse to me than cerb does. All game hes been a common lynch candidate who kinda skirted by and the reason was just mastin defending.

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:42 am

Mastin since you're here can you work with me on this?

I would accept a lynch on Cerb/Antagonist/Saint?/Kaboose/Jaqen <- priority on the 3 off wagon I think

Mastin, what are your thoughts on if jaqen's claim was a gambit to be so insane he gets cleared? I just finished a game where Notty/Pieguy/Sakura did that and coasted basically to endgame.

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:44 am

I think the jaqen thing being an insane gambit might make sense. Especially if kab00se is as clear as you say. Imagine being 50/50 candidate for scum and you're the more suspicious of the two. Scum would be desperate to do anything to be cleared. Including doing something that is essentially suicide.

I think I want jaqen dead, actually.

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:54 am

cerb, what do you think about the idea that jaqens obviously fucked up claim is a gambit to live? I think that takes the "jaqen bad scum not being possible" logic and flips it on its head into it actually being "PoE'd jaqen scum survives based on gambit"

suddenly not such a bad move? If mastin really is 100% sure and not some bogus about meta or something then I think I want jaqen dead. Cerb has reacted to pressure well imo

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:00 am

Multiball game, lots of one faction is dead the other(s) seemingly in tact

XtoxM is a sensor and there is essentially 1/3 scum (AT LEAST) in the pool of Jaqen/Kaboose/Cerberus. They are the people who were off the wagon of ZZZX.

Jaqen claimed tracker and said mastin was likely guilty but the claim was sorta weird and the idea now is that jaqens results were somehow compromised? You should probably read that interaction for yourself. Lots of complex variables there.

uhm, Mastin says he knows kaboose is town (so if you believe mastin its 50/50 at least with jaqen/cerb being scum)

what else should I say?

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:05 am

No, I don't think that was the plan of the gambit.

very well could be he expected mastin and him to live today due to it being wrong and us saying too scummy to be scum, basically.

I just got burned by this play in Disney uPick a bit and so I'm paranoid lol

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:10 am

like it really is a last ditch effort sorta gambit. he knew he was the most suspicious of the 3, and that he was probably going. Might as well take a strike at someone who is pretty known for being logical to a borderline fault. Mastin is someone who is a very god player and she always tries to see the perspective of the other side. Jaqen couldve abused that and got into a position where mastin believes Jaqen because the move was just so nuts? Essentially using chaos to clear yourself

UNVOTE:

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:24 am

In post 4182, Cerberus v666 wrote:Ah, gotcha, also, ongoing hiplop. Stahp.

Yeah , I guess that's posible...if you're going down the rabbit hole into paranoia land, why can't this entire play be a mastin/Jaqen meteor play? Early game distancing, fake clear TvT 1v1 misunderstanding which is diverted onto whoever appears convenient? Keeps them both alive, and gives them a chance at catching the last scum, since if one of them was on the sensored lynch, they'd know either Kaboose or myself were the last shinra.

I feel like that line might have a bit too much paranoia, but if this is a fake push by jaqen, that's not intended to get mastin kynched, then it's possible?

game ended? not ongoing lol

I mean it could be but I think it makes more sense as an appeal to logic from jaqen. I'll vote there. It makes sense to me and I honestly dont see you acting like this as scum

VOTE: jaqen hagar

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:35 am

cerb I don't think mastin is gonna get lynched today

join me on jasen?

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:53 am

apologies. I shouldn't have said that YOU said he was 'likely'. FWIW i did tell him to go read that because its a clusterfuck lol

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:56 am

^ yeah, thats the reason I said likely in my catch up. Thats why i think jaqen is fishy. Hes too good a player to be this adamant

like to me only two options actually make sense: jaqen town with tampered results
jaqen scum gambit

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:32 pm

Mollie you were in graveyard shift? I don't remember that

hiplop · Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:20 pm

In post 4230, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 4228, hiplop wrote:Mollie you were in graveyard shift? I don't remember that

I was in the herself hydra. kuribo gave the best rundown of my town meta this site has ever seen other than the indie meta that nacho provided in you cld be any1. you were so nonexistent in that game that is why I am townreading you here!

that was one of my favourite games ever!

I was so proud at the end of that game!

With all the role madness going on right now I agree the only thing that seems basically 100% is that saint is scum? I'll come along for the ride

VOTE: saint

hiplop · Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:30 am

I'm in a line just catching up

But so jaqen flipped alignment tracker? So it was definitely a factional? I see a lot of arguing back and forth about whether its definite

Someone sane/who has time can you catch me up?

hiplop · Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:50 am

VOTE: mastin

I really don't see how you aren't scum. Early scum read + Jaqen result + you defending kaboose so hard

hiplop · Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:42 pm

mastin how have I been fencesitting?

disagreeing with you isn't fencesitting. You have to admit, this is a strange game. I find it weird that you would nightkill kaboose, which is why I'm not convinced youre scum.

Your slot is the only one that has me confused, mastin. You have a lot of shit your way yet you still seem kinda town. I just dont wanna be getting played here

hiplop · Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:45 pm

Damn, did anyone else forget psychlones slot was still in this game? they were scummy as fuck like day one

hiplop · Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:24 am

SORRY I'VE BEEN RUNNING FROSH WEEK AT MY UNIVERSITY

I can only post late at night (so in like 6 hours

hiplop · Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:37 am

I feel like I'm going to kick myself, but antagonist is seriously right about radja. I know what its like to replace into a game with a power role and be asked to claim; its hard! and Radja got stuck wirh his pants down

VOTE: Radja

He's either a liar or scum. Either way should die

hiplop · Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:44 am

MY POST VANISHED

hiplop · Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:49 am

WHAT THE FUCK I MADE TWO POSTS AND ONE WAS LONG AND IT DIDNT POST FJUFSIJOFSDJOIFSDLIJKFDGSJLDFJKL;GKNGDFJKLGDFJKLN;GDFLJK;FDSKLDSAKL;SADLKDSLKJDKLSLKLDFSLKM

I caught up and basically I feel mastin is town. I doubt she'd be defending radja this hard, and even misisng details. The post where she mentioned she made a mistake seems like a town midnset. Shes actually trying to figure out the game (even if I think shes way wrong

).

I am going to feel like the biggest idiot if mastin is scum and plays us, but I don't think thats the case here. I agree that mastin/prohawk is a VERY strange dynamic. It could just be a super odd, game long bus? I doubt that, though. I think its likely one is scum and the other is not. The issue I'm having is prohawk has been a town read of mine most of the game (hes tunnelling to no end; that seems to be coming from a stubborn town mindset)

Seiko seems town to me. Gone for a long time but the day one push even if wrong seemed like 100% town to me.

antagonist is town, too. This is antis town meta (yeah, he was gone for a while but when hes here he is quite active. I can't read ika, though

)

Mollie is town.

Xtoxm is the big question mark to me. I honestly have no clue whether hes town or not. It has been an incredibly weird slot to read. Essentially aeris was emotional and seemed somewhat town? Then a strange claim that basically gave us nothing. I don't have time to do the numbers, but I'm not entirely sure his claim adds up?

hiplop · Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:49 am

erhm, okay :\

hiplop · Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:27 am

Cerb you were in the first time I typed it

My read on you is odd. Based on xtox information you make sense as scum...but you seem so town to me? I talked about this earlier but basically you just are trying. Like thoroughly reading every post. That to me doesnt seem like scum. Basically you're null because: Town read, scummy information. Ya know?

hiplop · Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:00 pm

seiko im in the same boat as you. the multiballness is really making me quite confused. We have a guilty result on a shiifty slot and I STILL think she might be town

this is a weird fucking game

hiplop · Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:23 pm

^ erhm i can buy mastin being town but that stuff seems sketchy to me? Id prefer to think jaqen was just mislead

but finally I can talk about that game! mastins play there is quite similar to my eyes. it was an outstanding game though so its hard to judge

hiplop · Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:28 pm

ill write out some stuff tomorrow, its way too late here! :\

hiplop · Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:31 am

Mastin now do you understand why your slot is so confusing to me? I religiously read inorganic lol

hiplop · Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:17 am

radjas vote on prohawk is awful

like prohawk is a scummy slot but its pretty blatantly just to not get lynched

hiplop · Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:32 am

^^ thats how I felt during the cerb-is-scum rally. That he was shouting as loud as he could about the truth and we all ignored and were throwing pitchfokrs. I think hes likely town. I REALLY dislike xtoxms attitude lately and its making me look at him off

I feel I'm in the same boat as you mastin (obviously though instead of my lynch itd be you).

hiplop · Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:35 am

and thats what makes posting right now so hard? I know I'm town, but I also am sorta lost. I personally think Radja makes the most sense right now, but I'm also sorta petrified about what I've been doing (which has been admittedly horrible play. I keep flip flopping in my head about really important things and its really quite frustrating)

I feel like this game is a puzzle but I have the wrong pieces?

hiplop · Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:20 pm

why didnt you make a plea to me?

hiplop · Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:15 pm

yeah, same I think. If mastin is town I'm going to feel like the biggest idiot ever, But i REALLY don't think thats the case here. She's right. This is town mastin.

hiplop · Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:40 am

Interested also. I think radja is significantly more likely to be scum than ph, but prohawk hasn't really done anything this game to make me think hes town, either

hiplop · Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:49 am

no rush

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:22 am

Deadline is in 3 hours???

what the fuck

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:23 am

we gotta decide. no lynch would be awful. we already have so many giant question marks

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:37 am

UNVOTE: radja

mathematically not happening today

same position as cerb. i guess we have to decide prohawk or mastin?

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:39 am

i can be here until the end of the day, too

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:44 am

Cerb, right now I'm leaning mastin

in a risky 1:1 situation like this I think her head would be the safer option. clears up a lot of information to me, anyway?

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:04 am

Same boat. read wise mastin seems townier, logically prohawk seems townier

This is tough. Feels like a million dollar decision.

I'm having trouble shaking the idea of mastin-town, but she is REALLY good. And that fucking terifies me. I don't want to get played like I/everyone got in inorganic chem

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:23 am

is anyone else here? like would voting prohawk even be possible?

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:12 am

In post 4935, pirate mollie wrote:I am here hippy

You and mastin already on prohawk. If cerb and i both voted prohawk it still wouldn't do anything... :\

I'm here for like 15 more minutes then I have to leave

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:23 am

Mastin, I was around at deadline to prevent a no lynch. I wasn't buddying cerb, I was reasoning with him. I'm fucking paranoid that I'm going to choose wrong between two people death-tunneling each other all game. I haven't had a busy day today so basically just been devoted to being here.

imo a lynch is almost always better than a no lynch especially with so many question marks. Thats why it seems like I'm easy. Its because all 3 of you (radja, prohawk, mastin) are incredibly weird slots that could all be scum.

hiplop · Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:25 am

to clarfiy a flip on one of mastin/prohawk really provides a lot of information to me about the rest of this game

I have to go and want to prevent nl, and this kinda reads as flailing mastin to me?

VOTE: mastin

hiplop · Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:14 pm

@cerb
I didnt make it back to answer this. I thought that if mastin flipped scum we would basically have a prohawk clear! Her townflip is a bit less revealing, though

Radja makes the most sense as scum to me. Actions don't line up, bunch of sketchy choices, and just overall scummy play. I don't want to vote yet in case of scum taking advantage. We're getting low on numbers and really can't afford many mislynches.

@seiko, doesn't 4 scum alive right now seem like an awful lot? I don't think it being lylo makes much sense. Explain, though?

hiplop · Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:15 pm

@prohawk can you clarify the mollie fear? I thought you said yesterday that it was a relational tell w/ mastina

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:14 am

Seiko's paranoid right now. I'm not sure how to read into that. I could definitely see them as scum but quite frankly I'm scared because it seems riskier to me.

The pool of radja/prohawk makes more sense to me. I have a lot more positive feelings about prohawk, and do agree that there could have been aplanned setup to get rid of prohawk today after mastin. I don't think both radja and prohawk are scum. I feel like its one of them then the others are in my "iffy" pile. Seiko more likely than antagonist, I think

not lynching/town
mollie
cerb

Iffy
Antagonist
Seiko

scum
prohawk
radja

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:32 am

Ehm? I'm not letting you make the first move. I think its WAY too early for votes right now. I am essentially saying: treat this as a vote from me.

I am not sheeping you, either? I was on radja yesterday and was forced to compromise onto mastin.

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:35 am

Antagonist like iffy to me means not worth lynching today but could potentially be the remaining scum! I don't think cerb/mollie are. their interactions dont make much sense from scum

yours are significantly less likely but its basically PoE that puts you in ify

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:40 am

I've done a lot this game and its sorta frustrating to be equated to "all hiplops done is sheep" :\ Like one of my first posts iirc was calling out psyclone. That slot has just been scummy all game and made it to now by always being like the second best option to lynch. that usually indicates scum to me.

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:41 am

Antagonist, thats silly. Its quite obvious there is more than one scum? I doubt they are both in my scum pool; I'm not that good. PoE says its likely one of you or seiko. That's all it is.

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:43 am

the fact he's sheeping piehydra and i's read exactly

I exaggerated this line a bit thats all? Like thats basically what this is saying. Cerb said something to similar effect earlier too

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:47 am

My god dude. I think radja is scum. Like pretty damn close to 100%. I'm less sure on prohawk. That's all I'm fucking saying my god

yea, you call me out but not pieguy? I hate that about this site. I don't have as strong as a rep so I get fucking caleld out for no fucking reason.

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:57 am

I DO HAVE LEGIT PROBLEMS.

That's why you're not in the town pile. I will explain them if you really want

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:14 am

i'll explain in like 25 minutes in a league game

hiplop · Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:41 pm

sorry plans came up but i have a post half-ready on my pc
quick reply tho from pone
seiko, why do you thik im not voting? im aware it CAN be ylo so want to be cautous. i think it aal so could NOT be lylo. i think it shoul be treate tht way because of the chance ho

hiplop · Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:37 am

^ strange

why don't you have radja there? that sketches me out.

anyway, radja, pro, seiko

hiplop · Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:23 pm

seiko but then you don't make sense? You're townreading* all 3 of those things?

fresh/cerb = bp
mollie = jk
radja = doc

* against their lynches.

I feel like a radja/seiko team might be possible honestly. I'm still flipping 50/50 on pro/radja

hiplop · Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:28 pm

worded that wrong, sorry.

If I understand you right you system goes pro > me > radja, right?

hiplop · Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:32 pm

Thats not true? I put the asterisk in to explain what i meant!

To me I'm struggling with the dillemma of pro vs radja. I don;t think theyre scum together but to me i;m leaning radja because of the claim. Seems safer to me, i think. I'm just trying to understand your thought process

hiplop · Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:35 pm

can you see them as scum together? Like I suppose it's possible especially with Prohawk seemingly trying to get a mollie lynch going lol

hiplop · Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:37 pm

For some reason in my head I had like a blockade on them not being scum together

is it bad that I can't remember why ? :\ I'm going to look through my notes but maybe you're right!

hiplop · Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:37 pm

I wanna wait until mollie's back to decide, though! her and cerb are my #1's so I want to bounce some ideas off of them on who makes more sense today!

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:31 am

you're that sure about hawman? Can you explain why, darling? I don't want to fuck up

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:48 am

I don't think I can get behind the idea of a saint night kill, honestly. That's the key reason I think cerb is town fwiw

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:54 am

I mean I guess that only means he's not lying about his role, could still be scum, actually?

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:07 am

y do u think im townreading you ya goofball

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:09 pm

I'll hammer whenever we agree we want day to end!

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:16 pm

why drag it out? i agree with antag tbh but will compromise and wait it out :\

hiplop · Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:23 pm

I'll hammer after class tomorrow

decent compromise?

hiplop · Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:00 pm

IM SO SORRY I JUST WENT HOME FROM SCHOOL SO I FORGOT TO POST

I honestly didn't realize radja was at l-1. I was under the impression that he was only at l-2 honestly. ika i'm sorry for dragging it out

VOTE: radja

hiplop · Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:01 pm

going after molie was the last straw tbh. straight up desperation

hiplop · Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:08 am

I mean I essentially hammered a few days before! I just felt bad for telling anti I would hammer the next day and didnt :p

This is tough. Gotta relook a lotta things.

hiplop · Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:09 pm

im vincent!

hiplop · Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:17 am

vanilla vincent valentine

hiplop · Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:17 am

the triple v

hiplop · Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:54 pm

I wish verb :/ I

Ive been going back and looking at interactions to try and figure it out and its still a mess.

The vote is interesting! I'm petrified to vote haha. Invested a long ass time into this game and don't want to fuck up. Verb/mollie are the towniest to me but Seiko/hawkboy seems kinda weird?

Gotta relook at verb tomorrow

Omg y'all post a lot rn @ verb you got to use numbers in your name here :p

hiplop · Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:55 pm

Cerb= verb Fuck autocorrect on phone haha

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:33 am

I'm fairly confident it is prohawk/???. Like I've been looking at pairs and there really aren't any that make sense that are not attatched to prohawk

I'm not ready to vote because we're almost certainly in lylo, but thats where my head is at.

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:59 pm

VOTE: hawk

I do NOT believe he is telling the truth about being shinra. It makes no sense to me. I think there is only one party left.

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:00 pm

pedit didnt work....

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:06 pm

wait cerb you're the scum? fuck.

i'm really sorry if i lost this for the town

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:26 pm

CELEBRATEEEEEE

I LOVE YOU MOLLIE

one of my favourite games ever!!!

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:27 pm

love you too borky btw!

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:31 pm

In post 3170, pirate mollie wrote:I am still here!

In post 3171, hiplop wrote:me too!

still relevant

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:32 pm

im fine with pt being open

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:48 pm

Oh i knew it was fake! i just couldnt show it

we didn't think antagonist was scum. we were scared they would smarten up

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:02 pm

mollie is without a doubt the best scum partner i couldve ever had <3

i had so much damn fun! was a roller coaster of emotions in there and t was great!

so proud of us

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:35 pm

In post 5488, mastin2 wrote:
In post 5419, pieguyn wrote:I am the worst fucking town player to have ever lived and I don't even know what to say about my play this game.
sorry town :/
1: give mollie credit where credit's due, you wouldn't have caught her.
2: I do hold a bit of blame for initiating a 1v1 with wrong-scum ProHawk, me being right about his alignment but wrong about his faction, AND for having some shade thrown on Radja.
3: ...But really, the only failure was in not voting the person
I died voting for
, hiplop, who was playing a ridiculously obvscum game full of lurking and opportunistic posting.
Mollie really, REALLY carried hiplop through that.

"super obv scum game"

> Was on your town list until literally your last post where you were flinging mudd

hiplop · Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:37 pm

and like, mastin had I not had to vote you b/c of jaqen thing, you wouldn't have realized what I was doing.

Read the PT, I wanted to keep you around because I KNEW you would always think I was town until I went against you. It was very deliberate that I didn't vote you until the very end because I knew thats when you would catch on