UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Klingoncelt]

/Confirm

[Klingoncelt]

Can anyone tell me what this is?

It's a snail without its shell.

[Klingoncelt]

It'd actually be a pretty interesting play for two scum to claim miller ...

Remember when Varsoon and I did that?

We CC'd each other, I got lynched and flipped Scum. For some reason Town decided that since I flipped Scum, Varsoon was obvtown.

[Klingoncelt]

If two scum claimed miller, and one died, there is almost no way that town would ever lynch the other. They'd just congratulate themselves on having guessed right and conftowned someone while catching scum.

Yep.

[Klingoncelt]

scum don't claim miller.

~Titus

I've done it before. In a game you were in. See post 190.

[Klingoncelt]

Just popping in to say that I'll be just popping in for the next few days. All things relating to the holiday are my responsibility.

I am reading and keeping up.

I think Jeanne is Town and needs to eat a Xanax. I don't get the pressure on TN5421.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm letting myself die because all anybody ever does is insult my reads and playstyle and never bothers to offer an alternative.

There are many days left in this Day. Calm the fuck down. Several of us have not voted at all.

[Klingoncelt]

Still busy with holiday stuff...

But it's occurred to me that Diamond might be Vengeful, or Saulus, or Judas, or Jester, or something like that.

I should be more into the game tomorrow night.

Have a good one, everybody!!

[Klingoncelt]

Still busy with holiday stuff...

But it's occurred to me that Diamond might be Vengeful, or Saulus, or Judas, or Jester, or something like that.

I should be more into the game tomorrow night.

Have a good one, everybody!!

Agents, this is a scum post.

But so is diamond.

Decisions, decisions...

No, it's me doing a million things at once and this thought pops into my head, so I post it while I prod dodge.

[Klingoncelt]

Still busy with holiday stuff...

But it's occurred to me that Diamond might be Vengeful, or Saulus, or Judas, or Jester, or something like that.

I should be more into the game tomorrow night.

Have a good one, everybody!!

HA! I wish I was vengeful. But no, Dramonic gave me something worse than any role you could possibly dream...

Hated?

[Klingoncelt]

Agent, you literally quoted the post. Why would his mind jump to explanations for Diamond's behavior that did not involve him being a member of the mafia? Because he knows that diamond is not a member of the mafia, but acknowledges his behavior is scummy. It is attempting to solve our puzzle - but with a piece of information the town does not have.

You're reading way too much into this.

Diamond is acting very paranoid and depressed.

That's probably not a Scum or 3rd Party tell, more like a role that does something involving being lynched. So I asked.

[Klingoncelt]

Besides, I will never go after tn.

Because why?

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Roleplay25

For throwing too much at the wall trying to make something stick.

[Klingoncelt]

And my biggest pet peeve is when people try to lynch townie even if said townie has high utility to town. And no, I am not saying this just to save myself, but I sincerely believe it. For instance, if you were trying to lynch one of my townreads, I would be saying the same thing. In this case, it just so happens that I have utility.

But nobody else knows that. In fact, for all we know you're bullshitting us.

Look, the thing to do here is simply push whoever you think is scummy. OMGUS isn't the best reason, by the way.

Don't make yourself the center of attention, direct attention to your scumpicks.

[Klingoncelt]

But roles need to be alive to do stuff. But if I am lynched anyway, might as well fullclaim.

Town Weak Tracker Neighbourizer.

Don't you feel silly now?

That's it? That's the mighty role you were flipping out over?

It's a PR, yes. It's useful, yes. But is it worth the noise you threw all over it? No.

[Klingoncelt]

KlingonCelt

Once again, I ask you to review the ISO: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This is not the ISO of a town player. Outside of rolefishing, and assuming that someone wasn't scum, he um... discussed mafia theory. And rolefished harder. And discussed mafia theory.

There isn't too much to discuss because he's actually doing literally nothing. And none of it's town.

This RolePlay toy amuses me.

I'll keep my vote on it.

[Klingoncelt]

And my biggest pet peeve is when people try to lynch townie even if said townie has high utility to town. And no, I am not saying this just to save myself, but I sincerely believe it. For instance, if you were trying to lynch one of my townreads, I would be saying the same thing. In this case, it just so happens that I have utility.

But nobody else knows that. In fact, for all we know you're bullshitting us.

Look, the thing to do here is simply push whoever you think is scummy. OMGUS isn't the best reason, by the way.

Don't make yourself the center of attention, direct attention to your scumpicks.

So who is scummy, Mr mafia theory? Check your private topic for clues, please.

You're really observant, aren't you?

I like the way you read my pronoun and everything.

[Klingoncelt]

This is going to sound bad.

Who shall I vote?

Yes, it does sound bad.

'For

whom

shall I vote?'

And it still sounds bad.

[Klingoncelt]

... I can probably say it's not that something happens when I vote, it's just I cannot vote until something else happens first.

Allow me to ask again. Who should I vote? Preferably not myself.

So you have a post restriction that makes you vote someone else's choice?

[Klingoncelt]

This is a bullshit excuse to remove a bullshit made up post restriction.

Sharky definitely has a post restriction.

Edgar Allan Pro does too, fyi.

[Klingoncelt]

This is a bullshit excuse to remove a bullshit made up post restriction.

Sharky definitely has a post restriction.

Edgar Allan Pro does too, fyi.

Are they not in your PT, giving you this inside information?

I don't have a PT.

The info came with my role PM, EAP and Sharky have some sort of post restrictions. I have zero info on their roles and alignments.

[Klingoncelt]

Like in all honesty, once the EP/Sharky thing is worked out and one of the two is dead.

I really wanna lynch KC. Over every single other person worth lynching.

You
are
an
idiot.

[Klingoncelt]

There was no point in my announcing anything until something started happening.

I really like where my vote is.

[Klingoncelt]

Like in all honesty, once the EP/Sharky thing is worked out and one of the two is dead.

I really wanna lynch KC. Over every single other person worth lynching.

You
are
an
idiot.

Go fuck yourself

No U

[Klingoncelt]

OKAY SO HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I shoot Sharky
Sharky flips town
Roleplay pushes for my lynch
I flip town

Right? Is this happening?
I am ready to shoot sharky.

Might as well do it and see what happens.

[Klingoncelt]

A quick overview of people who need to die:

TN5421 ("im tired of playing games with a bunch of retards")

KlingonCelt

Sharky

Gonna roll with this, so hard.

Vote: KlingonCelt

How YOU doin

Better than you, Nooblet.

[Klingoncelt]

Are you literally requesting to be lynched?

Keep in mind he has a (non-alignment indicative) post restriction.

[Klingoncelt]

Can you explain your beef with the Klingons?

It's called imagination.

[Klingoncelt]

... KC, you are going to be lynched today unless you show up and wow us. Like, seriously. Nobody thinks your town right now(except LH I guess, but they've been uncharacteristically quiet and ineffective (that is, they're not pushing for any of the answers to the questions they have, just throwing them out there and letting them get lost in the noise), so they're not going to be saving you with the level of faith I currently have in them)), so you should probably do something. Like, useful and stuff. Engage with the game.

Well excuuuuuuse me for celebrating a couple holidays with way too many people in the house all week.

I'm Town. I'm so fucking Town it's ridiculous.

I'm catching up and then I'll run through what I have so far.

Don't expect wowness, it's not like anyone's wowing me so far.

[Klingoncelt]

If zmuffin has targeted me, dram hasn't let me know about it yet.

Mastin and Titus. Hell, Drixx and Hiplop are no slouch.

The quality of content from either hydra is... err... yeah.

Still want KC dead mind you.

I'm so Town it's ridiculous.

You have zero credibility now.

[Klingoncelt]

COULDN'T CUT IT AS A POOR MAN STEALING
TIRED OF LIVING LIKE A BLIND MAN
SICK OF CYBERING OUT A SENSE OF FEELING
THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND ME
OF HOW BAD NICKELBACK REALLY IS

I'm not going to lie... I don't actually hate Nickelback...

I have that band on ignore.

[Klingoncelt]

I have a question for everybody -

Does anyone other than Edgar Allan Pro and Sharky5x have post restrictions?

[Klingoncelt]

It really bugs me that Town supposedly has 2 Millers.

A game I was in that just finished up had a Scum Miller...

[Klingoncelt]

Dumbasses.

I get slammed at home all week and you try to vote me off?

@dramonic

Confirm Innocent, please.

[Klingoncelt]

I don't understand the Klingoncelt voting happening in quick succession as of late.

It's Scum-motivated. Scum fucked up.

I'm Sacagawea, Innocent Translator, awaiting confirmation.

Requesting holiday extension, please.

[Klingoncelt]

explain translator please?

I chose Sacagawea as my flavor. So I'm a Translator instead of a Child.

[Klingoncelt]

explain translator please?

I chose Sacagawea as my flavor. So I'm a Translator instead of a Child.

no, like what it does?

I can tell that 2 players have a post restriction today.


Hey guys, I'm V/LA until Wednesday due to health issues.

[Klingoncelt]

Unvote

KC got a role that confirms her town so decided to play like total fucking shit. Whatever.

Catching up.

VOTE: Roleplay25

This needs to go.

[Klingoncelt]

Unvote

KC got a role that confirms her town so decided to play like total fucking shit. Whatever.

Catching up.

VOTE: Roleplay25

This needs to go.

What? Because he said you're playing terribly? You are. :p *shrug* I know you've been busy etc., but you didn't even engage with the wagon at all to get more information on the members of the wagon before you ended up confirmed. You....basically wasted your role, because you couldn't be bothered to go v/la during a time when you wouldn't be available.

Don't defend him. If he were a good player, then maybe. But he's not a good player, he just makes a bunch of noise.

I believe I've made notice of my current V/LA.

[Klingoncelt]

Rrr.
It's 3 AM.
I still have a promise to fulfill in making a linked in account tonight.
...And, also, because I failed my art blitz (well, actually, I succeeded, just not in the intended way: I failed to get the pages done that I wanted, but I got something much, much better out of the deal, where I became actually CONFIDENT in myself), I need to finish the page for my comic. Heck, I was planning on doing a second, but that's not happening tonight.

I realize I've got a shitload of pages to read, but I don't have the time right now.

(Honestly, I'm not going to have nearly as much time as I thought I would, really. I was thrown a curveball yesterday. See, I submitted for work hours as a lifeguard, paraphrasing, "I can work all these hours, but I would PREFER to only work one day: Sunday." I was hoping that was granted. Yesterday, I went in and got the new schedule...and found out that I work literally every single day except Saturday, for a SIGNIFICANT amount of time. So it wasn't. Meaning, all that time which I was hoping to have free, I now...don't. Monday is the worst shift because it's at night, thus, why it took me so long to get here. I won't be able to get caught up immediately. But I WILL be able to get caught up. If I told you I'd get caught up tomorrow, that'd be a lie. You're probably going to have over 80 pages by then. I will, however, say that I SHOULD have the free time tomorrow for mafia as to at least begin. The key here will be getting caught up faster than you produce content. I'm pretty sure I can do that. I simply can't do it right NOW. So I realize it's a bit of game neglect, but it won't last long. I'm strategically attacking my time management, now. Carefully planning out what I can and can't do. Can't: spend hours to get caught up overnight. Can't: work for a short time TONIGHT. Can: work for a short time tomorrow. It sucks, I know, I hate doing this more than you could EVER possibly imagine, but I *need* to be smart about how I manage this unfortunate situation.)

Given the choice between a nice paycheck and a game, the paycheck wins every time.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: ErrantParabola

I very much doubt that there are 2 Town Millers.

They might both be Scum, but they aren't both Town.

Really didn't like EP's ISO.

[Klingoncelt]

KC, Errant is not happening today. Be a good IC and give us some thoughts that don't include killing the person who shot scum with a vig shot. Unless you're on V/LA still, I haven't checked, in which case, get better k?

Thanks.

I'm off sick thru Saturday.

Scum have been known to kill their teammates.

But I'm not able to think clearly, so

UNVOTE: .

[Klingoncelt]

...

I will say one more thing, although I will warn you that speculation could lead you to make very poor assumptions so do be careful: I submitted the choice for character to play as before this became a hydra. In fact, I gave Dramonic two different choices if I was randomly assigned town and a different choice if I was randomly assigned scum, all of which come from what I would argue is the best television series ever aired: Babylon 5. I'll be happy to reveal the characters that Dramonic chose not to use after the game, but the one that we were given is G'kar (although Dram spelled it G'car, probably to irritate me). You have what you need to go and find the flavor. I will say that the role we have fits nicely with the character.

Of course, the character is ambiguous. Depending on where you step into the story, you could view the character as altruistically good, self-serving good, neutral, or any number of attributes that fall under "bad". Before I close, a particularly apt quote from our character: "We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away."

G'Kar was awesome. Can't wait to learn who your other choice was.

Everyone should watch that series.

[Klingoncelt]

...

I will say one more thing, although I will warn you that speculation could lead you to make very poor assumptions so do be careful: I submitted the choice for character to play as before this became a hydra. In fact, I gave Dramonic two different choices if I was randomly assigned town and a different choice if I was randomly assigned scum, all of which come from what I would argue is the best television series ever aired: Babylon 5. I'll be happy to reveal the characters that Dramonic chose not to use after the game, but the one that we were given is G'kar (although Dram spelled it G'car, probably to irritate me). You have what you need to go and find the flavor. I will say that the role we have fits nicely with the character.

Of course, the character is ambiguous. Depending on where you step into the story, you could view the character as altruistically good, self-serving good, neutral, or any number of attributes that fall under "bad". Before I close, a particularly apt quote from our character: "We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away."

G'Kar was awesome. Can't wait to learn who your other choice was.

Everyone should watch that series.

Klingon, you're an IC. Please put out lists of scum for us to lynch from.

Between me being sick and the 105-pages-long thread being clogged by toxins, I'm putting out one name only:

VOTE: Roleplay25

I think he's Scum, but even if he isn't he's far too anti-Town to keep in the game. Call it policy if you want.

[Klingoncelt]

Cool thanks.
LH?
Mass flop?
Davsto?
DS?
Everyone else?

Note I don't give a fuck about what you did or didn't try to do. I only want to know if unexpected things happened. That's it.

Nothing happened to me.

[Klingoncelt]

If it's a desperado, I think it should go to LH, if it's a daycop, it should go to klingon

Why?

[Klingoncelt]

the fuck is parcheesi

Really fun board game for 4 players.

[Klingoncelt]

Remember, I said to NOT just pile on votes.

PILE ON![/quote]

Voted.

[Klingoncelt]

Jester, for one.

THERE ARE NO JESTERS IN THIS GAME

LTIERALLY MOD CONFIRMED.

MY HEAD INTO A WALL

Why are you trying to compromise the plan?

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MY BRAIN HAS EXPLODED

I AM STARING AT CHUNKS OF MY OWN BRAIN

ON THE WALL

My brain exploded a long time ago.

Yes, I did gather that.

*sigh*

VOTE: EAPVOTE:

:/

If he ends up a pro-town role, it's on your head, agent.

I peed a little.

[Klingoncelt]

So I've had a shit day and I'm not doing this today. I might replace out of my games depending on how I feel tomorrow. Toodles.

I hope you feel better.

[Klingoncelt]

:\

right I'm just faking sick...

Get well soon, Hiplop

[Klingoncelt]

So who gets lynched today? EAP or RP?

[Klingoncelt]

@dramonic - I'm Universal Translator - shouldn't I be able to translate what Firebringer's and Edgar Allan Pro's post restrictions are - I mean can I say for them what they can't say for themselves?

[Klingoncelt]

RP, don't make me regret what I've done.

NO. You both need to stop being fucking stupid. STOP IT. No desperado should go to LH or RP. If you're going ot give one to someone, give it to fucking 3dice or elbirn. Seriously.

I agree with the first sentence.

But why give a desperado at all just now? I think some things need to shake out first.

Diamond

, you were redirected to Elbirn last night. Care to tell us who you were originally targeting and why?

Learned Hand

, BOTH OF YOU, could I see a reads list, please?

I'd also like to see reads lists from

Cerberus, Diamond, 3dicerolling

, and

Zmuffinman

.

[Klingoncelt]

Nevermind, Cerberus, just saw yours.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon, you know I read people by how they interact.

Roleplay/insane GreyIce is making that impossible. Not going to pretend like I can do one. I know my facts are off somewhere but nothing I can do.

C'mon, this is me here. Give it a try.

[Klingoncelt]

Mine isn't really a reads list. It's more a list of all the claims so far, because I think a mass claim might be good at this point. I'm not certain though.

I feel like I'd like one more scum flip.

That being said, it's not your decision, or mine, or LH's. It's KlingonCelt's.

Mass claims are fun.

So are reads lists.

I'll do my reads list when the ones I asked post theirs.

Let's ALL do reads lists! Then we'll do the massclaim afterwards. Yeah, let's do that.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm going to grab some lunch now.

[Klingoncelt]

You translated such a good case.

Do you want Drixx and I to merge first or be separate lists, my queen.

This is going to be interesting. I want to see what a Zklingon lead town looks like.

Separate lists please.

Me leading? Like eating a big bowl of peyote stew.

[Klingoncelt]

This is going to be interesting. I want to see what a Zklingon lead town looks like.

Me leading? Like eating a big bowl of peyote stew.

Isnt Peyote hallucinogenic?

Why yes. Yes it is.

[Klingoncelt]

What the heck did dav do with that thing that I gave him, you know that thing?

Nothing you give Dav will work because he's voteless. Like a treestump, basically.

[Klingoncelt]

BANG!!!

Firebringer [ESKIMO HOBO PONY],

Uninspired Lucid Dreamer

, killed himself Day 3

Votecount is reset.

Fuck.

[Klingoncelt]

Since third parties are part of the game, would their nature be suggested by their role flip? Like "XXXXX XXXXXX Serial Killer" or "XXXXXXXX XXXXX Survivor"?

They're green.

Town is blue.

Scum is red.

[Klingoncelt]

isn't LH confscum? did I misunderstand?

Firebringer desperado'd them. He died. They're conftown now.

[Klingoncelt]

We are informed town.

We know there are multiple millers and godfathers in the game. We have {at least one} other thing{s} that I won't claim no matter what, even at L-1. Please see Mafiaception if you don't believe me. I would rather eat a mislynch because scum are afraid of what I will refuse to reveal even at L-1 and let the town benefit from their paranoia than reveal something that the rest of my faction (town) really doesn't need to know right now, and which will only help scum if I said it.

You're a target for the NK.

Any info you have would be helpful right now.

[Klingoncelt]

The evidence is far stronger that zmuffin waa town than anyone else, except for KC and yourself. As far as I'm concerned, we currently have 4 probable-conftown: LH, RP, KC, and Zmuffin.

Evidence isn't as strong as confirmation.

But leaving the 4 listed out,
you,
Davsto,
DiamondSentinel,
Elbirn,
Mass Flop,
Shiro, and
3dicerolling are our choices.

I prefer Shiro.

[Klingoncelt]

because I got your identity wrong and you have been playing to my town read on their meta >_>

Mass flop.

Seriously, we can fill the entire pages with friendly conversation, but we're not the ones who need to be talking. I think I shall

retreat to the QT

until I feel like poking out.

waaaat?

He was neighborized.

[Klingoncelt]

i'm both unlynchable and unkillable*,

* there's also conditions around my role that i don't think are worth discussing but for now i am what i say i am

That's just a little OP, don't you think?

[Klingoncelt]

Shiro.............but scum don't fakeclaim miller, riiigght? X.x

I've seen a Scum Miller before...

[Klingoncelt]

I've decided that with my claim, I'm pretty sure we can solve the game with an easy victory.

I am Luigi from Luigi's Mansion, and I'm a PGO janitor Cop.

If I'm targeted, the person who targets me will die. They will have flavor to do with vacuuming. That persons role will not flip. When I die, everyone who targeted me will flip.

As for the cop part of my role, here are my night targets:

Night 1 - Mass Flop, result: Evil
Night 2 - Roleplay, result: Innocent

I confirmed with the mod that the only results I will get are evil and innocent. I had the misconception day 2 that because I received the term evil, that it was multiball, but now I know evil could also mean Mafia.

That being said, you will notice that I started pushing Mass Flop at the VERY beginning of day 2. Even after EAP was confirmed to not be town, I still was voting them.

You will also notice that at the beginning of day 3, I said I "reread and thought about stuff" which lead me to believe Roleplay was town. This was another crumb.

At this point, with 2 scum dead, there is likely to be only 2 left. With mass flop dead, that would leave one scum. It would be suicide to kill me, so I can continue copping and last scum cannot kill me.

If you still aren't convinced, I can bring up some of my crumbs for you, but I have school now, so I can bring them up in about an hour.

What's REALLY interesting is that Itlepip claimed basically my exact role, which is why I never backed off of them after the claim.

Of course, my role can be checked by being targeted by someone, or by watching mass flop die like the scumbutt they are.

VOTE: Mass Flop

[Klingoncelt]

MassFlop is at L-1, I believe.

Time to

flail

claim.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm town fuck you all

Care to claim?

[Klingoncelt]

No...

We have to do this. You have to be lynched.

[Klingoncelt]

I have a Mod PM that confirms RP25 as a Townie.

It's also confirmed that RP was visited by 3Dice on Night 2.

[Klingoncelt]

Tangential.

The mod isn't going to give a player a fakeclaim when using said fakeclaim would get them lynched. Bastard or no, that's just terrible modding by lying to players. Dramonic or no, that's just not likely to happen. Stating that Dramonic doesn't give fakeclaims makes it all the more likely 3dice is scum and borrowing what was previously made up for a claim.

3Dice actually did visit Roleplay last Night. If he were Scum, would he not have killed Roleplay?

[Klingoncelt]

zMuffin - You're flat out wrong. Anyone can verify by putting Learned Hand and Roleplay into ISO and see the temporal order of things. I've included a few bits, in chronological order. There's a great deal more ugliness, and it wasn't started by me, and I made more than one attempt to settle it down, one of which RP is still intentionally misrepresenting for {reasons}. ... ... ... ... ... ...

Roleplay

- never argue with an attorney. Definitely never,

ever

argue with

two

attorneys.

If you do they'll make eye-blistering wallposts.

My whole face hurts from reading that post.

And it's dumb as fuck for a couple of semi-confirmed Townies to go at each other like this.

Both of you will now ignore each other.

Zmuffin, quit baiting. You aren't in the Townblock, you know.

Titus (and Drixx) I asked for reads lists. As much as you like to read mine, Titus, I think you should post yours.

Why is MassFlop not lynched yet?