Queen of Hearts [Game Over]

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:40 am

non claiming..

I am not a doc.

I dont look anything like a doc.

if there is anything like a doc in this game, I am not him.

CKD=no doc.

knock knock
who is there?
doc
doc who?
I dont know, but it isnt CKD.

if you think I am a doc, at this point in this post, you would be wrong.

no docs were harmed in the making of this post.

vote Cakez

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #33 (isolation #1) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:41 pm

VOTE: grapes

Gots myself a feeling

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #40 (isolation #2) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:33 am

Scum like provide town reads early, to gain friends.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #60 (isolation #3) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:47 am

i am not going to confirm or deny that I have cookies for people who join me on the grapes wagon.

but, I have a feeling that this wagon will yield some scum fruit.

also, I got cookies.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #61 (isolation #4) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:48 am

also cakez, what is it about you that always makes me think you are scummy?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #114 (isolation #5) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:50 am

In post 102, The Bulge wrote:ok

VOTE: Harkonnen

this is a bad vote..try again.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #158 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:28 am

In post 133, Froot Loop wrote:
@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?

think are already said it,or at least implied it.

but lets play a quick game.

if you HAD to guess why I think he was scummy (keeping in mind we just started day 1). what would you say?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #162 (isolation #7) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:32 am

In post 140, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 133, Froot Loop wrote:I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

In post 62, SirCakez wrote:idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.
(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?
BOOP BOOP BOOP SCUM ALERT

vote Froot Loop

interesting, being the oldest member in this game, I wouldnt think you would have voted this post. clearly this person is new. this could be easily new town as new scum...this just reads as a terrible inexperienced post either way.

of course I also didnt agree with this.

In post 105, Untrod Tripod wrote:I post in the order I read. so I see Harkonnen has walked back his RVS claims

very well then!

vote Harkonnen

glad we actually have something

hmmm.

have we played together before?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #164 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:33 am

In post 149, grapes wrote:VOTE: Frootloop

hmmm...yeah, i wouldnt address my vote on you either.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #165 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:34 am

In post 152, grapes wrote:i think that he's scum, man

also vedith i don't wear flip flops?

why?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #168 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:35 am

In post 154, iraonavp wrote:Okay, I guess grapes is literally hiplop then so we can't tell with him at all...

...

this seems rather dismissive of ACTUAL scummy playing.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #169 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:36 am

In post 160, iraonavp wrote:Can I answer your question, curiouskarmadog?

(assuming you are reference 158) no.

I want to see how froot loop answers.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #171 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:54 am

from this point on in the game in Day 1...lets all stop putting town labels on people.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #176 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:30 am

In post 173, Froot Loop wrote:
@CKD - I don't know. I don't know if there's something about his play, you've played together before, there's actually no reason, or some other reason which I didn't think of at the time. I asked because you were actively trying to get people to vote with you.

fair enough.

did you go back to see his post before I voted him per chance?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #182 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:25 am

UNVOTE:

Not feeling it now

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #184 (isolation #15) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:29 am

VOTE: untrod tripod

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #197 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:14 am

In post 192, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 190, thenewearth wrote:
In post 188, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 186, thenewearth wrote:Are things happening?
rtft it's only like 8 pages.
Yeah but half of it is about how cakez is scum

... Again

For the 100th game in a row
lol. the game didn't really kick into gear until I sweepingly called all that bullshit and people voted me for not showing my work on my scumreads.

it's really been a thrill-a-minute

man you think highly of yourself.

is that why I am voting you?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #198 (isolation #17) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:21 am

In post 194, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 187, Untrod Tripod wrote:
@CKD - I've looked at the post now. I'm not really sure what you're getting at. You voted for him for saying that he's townreading people?

there you go.

what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care.

in regards to my previous vote on grapes. Scum tend to try to make friends early day 1. it is human nature to "feel good" about someone who says you are town, even if you dont know you are doing it. I disagree with grapes (and cakez later) that X and X are town. there was very little reason to think that other than "this is how town players are supposed to play in a particular situation". to start (seriously) saying people are obv town this early in the game FOR NO REASON is bullshit. all it does it puts a mark on someone's back. if you are scum, it earns you friends.

now, town still says this about other town all the time (thus, I have removed my vote for now)....but it was the first thing to ping my radar.

thoughts?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #223 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:40 am

In post 219, Vedith wrote:
162 is so damn awful, and you are actually using a start date to say how someone should or shouldn't react to a post.
I'm not sure what your interact was overly with Froot, or what the actual point was. Looked to me trying to appear making an effort, when in reality, it was a waste of time.

UNVOTE: Ank
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

"what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care." - I mean, yeah, okay!

you know I have to immediately look at your join date when you post this right?

lol

yeah, that is what I thought.

someone who has experience in this game like UT, would not have voted THAT post (Froot) over other actual scummy things in this games. The post was newbie-ish at best. it looked like low hanging fruit.

for the record, did you think that UT's vote of Froot's post was a good one, given the content of the post?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #224 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:45 am

In post 222, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 198, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 194, Froot Loop wrote:
In post 187, Untrod Tripod wrote:
@CKD - I've looked at the post now. I'm not really sure what you're getting at. You voted for him for saying that he's townreading people?
there you go.

what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care.

in regards to my previous vote on grapes. Scum tend to try to make friends early day 1. it is human nature to "feel good" about someone who says you are town, even if you dont know you are doing it. I disagree with grapes (and cakez later) that X and X are town. there was very little reason to think that other than "this is how town players are supposed to play in a particular situation". to start (seriously) saying people are obv town this early in the game FOR NO REASON is bullshit. all it does it puts a mark on someone's back. if you are scum, it earns you friends.

now, town still says this about other town all the time (thus, I have removed my vote for now)....but it was the first thing to ping my radar.

thoughts?
I profoundly disagree

It's very important for town to form informal alliances with other players that they trust, however fleeting this may be.

I think your post was super townie though

Wanna be my game-BFF?

I feel like you and I have talked about this before.

on day 1, without anyone asking, I think town lists are BAD. very bad. it is a road map for scum. now, there are exceptions. later in the game they are good...trying to figure out one's thoughts and developing one's "history" of alliances...sure, that is still later in the game. hell, if if just asked directly, sure..answer the question. But if someone just comes out of no where and starts providing town lists...blah. 7 times out of 10 scum. We can visit this topic again and see if I am right, end game.

I thought we were already long time BFFs?

if you flip scum in this game and this was just a ruse, I will be profoundly sad.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #225 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:47 am

Ved...here is the post/vote for reference.

In post 140, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 133, Froot Loop wrote:I think scumhunting (what I understand as putting in effort) is a pretty good reason to townread someone at this stage in the game. That's not the same as activity, though.

I get that you were prodding, but what are your thoughts on Vedith and Grapes, now that you've moved your votes off them?

In post 62, SirCakez wrote:idk
It's not just you, I can't remember a game I've played that I didn't get wagoned in (other then my one IC game)

I'm just naturally scummy I suppose.
(my bold)

This kind of annoys me. Is there something about your play which you think people interpret as scummy?

@CKD - What is it about grapes which makes you think they're scummy?
BOOP BOOP BOOP SCUM ALERT

vote Froot Loop

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #246 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:20 pm

In post 228, Vedith wrote:
In post 198, curiouskarmadog wrote:what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care.
I want you to go over this one with me again, as this is the most bullshit I've seen in a while.

In post 224, curiouskarmadog wrote:But if someone just comes out of no where and starts providing town lists...blah. 7 times out of 10 scum.
I'd like you to provide proof to this comment.
Your stats, seem just that little bit off.

what part do you not understand? read the interaction. she asked me a question...I was trying to figure out if she really wanted to know. so I asked her if she actually read what transpired. Not sure, exactly what you are missing...or if you are actually missing anything, but just trying to throw shit against the wall to see if it sticks.

what part EXACTLY do you not "get"?

also how big are you into metas? I have complained about town lists numerous times as town (and maybe once as scum). I have also judged people numerous time (I think solely as town) by their join date...if you have a certain level of experience there are certain things protown players dont/shouldnt attack.

if I provide these games...would you read them? (hint: answer should be yes, if you are going to continue pushing the argument).

I dont think Froot is scum, I think UT was looking for something to easily jump on without having to scum hunt.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #247 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:21 pm

In post 232, DrippingGoofball wrote:So many vanity wagons.

I looked at UT & FL

FL looks worse - more weak and defensive

UT is just cranky

VOTE: Froot Loop

oh sweet sweet DGB...please dont be scum this game.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #249 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:23 pm

In post 236, Seraphim wrote:
In post 219, Vedith wrote:
In post 171, curiouskarmadog wrote:from this point on in the game in Day 1...lets all stop putting town labels on people.
Town post. (Sarcasm for the slower players).

In post 198, curiouskarmadog wrote:in regards to my previous vote on grapes. Scum tend to try to make friends early day 1. it is human nature to "feel good" about someone who says you are town, even if you dont know you are doing it. I disagree with grapes (and cakez later) that X and X are town. there was very little reason to think that other than "this is how town players are supposed to play in a particular situation". to start (seriously) saying people are obv town this early in the game FOR NO REASON is bullshit. all it does it puts a mark on someone's back. if you are scum, it earns you friends.
I think it's a case that scum fear decent town blocks.
They want everyone to be suspected at all times. I agree that buddying happens, not as much as town calling someone town, but it does. The fact you don't want anyone to be town read/called on day 1 at all is scummy as fuck.

162 is so damn awful, and you are actually using a start date to say how someone should or shouldn't react to a post.
I'm not sure what your interact was overly with Froot, or what the actual point was. Looked to me trying to appear making an effort, when in reality, it was a waste of time.

UNVOTE: Ank
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

"what I was trying to figure out here, is if you really care." - I mean, yeah, okay!
How have we not lynched this yet? Is no one else seeing this? Is it really just me?

why do you think Ved is scum? I think Ved is misguided, but appears to me actively looking for scum (I think).

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #250 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 241, Spiffeh wrote:Ok later today for sure

To make up for my absence I will catch all the scum

hey spiff, I feel like every game we play in when you are town, you post more.

when you get a scum role, you lurk....and sometimes replace out.

Am I crazy or is this a thing?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #251 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:29 pm

also random question UT.

Have you checked out Ved's "case" against me? Your thoughts? IS she right on target, right for wrong reasons, wrong, or scummy?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #255 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:41 pm

In post 252, Vedith wrote:
In post 246, curiouskarmadog wrote:what part do you not understand? read the interaction. she asked me a question...I was trying to figure out if she really wanted to know. so I asked her if she actually read what transpired. Not sure, exactly what you are missing...or if you are actually missing anything, but just trying to throw shit against the wall to see if it sticks.

what part EXACTLY do you not "get"?

also how big are you into metas? I have complained about town lists numerous times as town (and maybe once as scum). I have also judged people numerous time (I think solely as town) by their join date...if you have a certain level of experience there are certain things protown players dont/shouldnt attack.

if I provide these games...would you read them? (hint: answer should be yes, if you are going to continue pushing the argument).

I dont think Froot is scum, I think UT was looking for something to easily jump on without having to scum hunt.
I still don't see it. I see a pointless conversation that didn't provide.
Meta? Well I don't care for self meta. I mean, you can link me games, but I'm sure if you're scum it will be selective games. I can say "I do X in games" and then link 3 games where I've done that, out of all my games. However, if people with meta on you agree with this, sure I'll accept it. Although no one has come to your aid as of yet?

But this you are contradicting yourself... You are saying that with UT's join date, he should know exactly what to do and how to vote people while giving the impression on town, but then saying that he is scum to trying to jump on an easy wagon.
Just explain that to me again. Either knows how to vote and look town or not. This is where your join date opinion is wrong, and if actually town, need better ways to look for scum.

So Froots is a null for you, even though UT is scum pushing for an easy lynch, correct?

that would be great, right. I provide games, then you check and find OTHER games I didnt provide? BOOM, I must be scum. For the past 2 years, I have only played one game at a time, so I really cant hide shit. soooo you want me to pull some? or you can just do it...not hard.

in regards to UT, there is NO contradiction. I dont see TOWN UT voting that post....thus why I think he is scum...it is about motivations.

Froots is probably town..if he flips scum, I know I will be eating a bunch of shit, but I think given his posting and UT's vote...Froot is probably town and I am leaning UT is scum...UNLESS this was an early bus, but too early to really tell.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #258 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 232, DrippingGoofball wrote: FL looks worse - more weak and defensive

dear...sweeite...hun...can we have a quick conversation about something.

do you think people who are defensive are mostly scummy?

also....where is Froot being defensive?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #269 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:14 pm

In post 260, Vedith wrote:
In post 255, curiouskarmadog wrote:that would be great, right. I provide games, then you check and find OTHER games I didnt provide? BOOM, I must be scum. For the past 2 years, I have only played one game at a time, so I really cant hide shit. soooo you want me to pull some? or you can just do it...not hard.

in regards to UT, there is NO contradiction. I dont see TOWN UT voting that post....thus why I think he is scum...it is about motivations.

Froots is probably town..if he flips scum, I know I will be eating a bunch of shit, but I think given his posting and UT's vote...Froot is probably town and I am leaning UT is scum...UNLESS this was an early bus, but too early to really tell.
I'm happy to look myself (tomorrow as it's 1am) but I'd still like people to confirm the meta on you if it's such a reliable reasoning.

With UT, can you confirm if you've played several times with him as both align? I don't recall ever playing wither either you or UT on this site. I still think your read on people and how they do things having effect from join date is garbage. I've seen many experienced players on here make terrible plays as town.

With Froots, I'm not sure I see her as town yet, as I haven't seen enough, but as I said, she has a unique way of putting things which can easily be seen as scummy.
I'm not feeling the UT vote. I could go for Grapes though - He's trying to sweet talk me as he knows I like that. Share you advanced opinion here if you wouldn't mind.

in regards to UT, i dont think i have every played with him. I have also seen experienced players make terrible plays as town (see my worry about DGB and the word "defensive"). but is day 1, and I am looking for anything...ANYTHING..that gives clues.

"advanced opinion". lol, guess you think I am being over confident? hardly, when you check out my play (at least the last 3) I start freaking out towards the end (when not scum) second guessing myself. if I have learned anything is to always go with my gut. speaking of which I think Cakez has played with me the most recently. My gut thought his hydra was scum last game and he wasnt (of course our last game, there were not real scum and town) DGB and I go way back, but I took a 2-3 year break, so I dont know how well she really knows me now.

now are you really asking me my opinion on grapes? isnt the grapes the actual reason you and I are in this position? he was my first real vote....which is what Froots was asking me about to begin with...kind of full circle? so, technically you should already know my opinion on "making friends" day 1, right?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #290 (isolation #29) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:53 pm

slammed for the next 24ish hours.

UNVOTE:

until i can get caught up

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #356 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:42 pm

catch up later today...life

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #357 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:42 pm

i think for the next couple weeks, the bulk of my posting might have to be on the weekends..ugh.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #373 (isolation #32) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:00 pm

okay, no time to really post in depth....there are a couple questions I have.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #374 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:01 pm

noted, DGB posted but didnt answer question...that (of course) doesnt sit right.

In post 258, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 232, DrippingGoofball wrote: FL looks worse - more weak and defensive
dear...sweeite...hun...can we have a quick conversation about something.

do you think people who are defensive are mostly scummy?

also....where is Froot being defensive?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #375 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:04 pm

In post 298, Froot Loop wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV

The series of posts about CKD doesn't sit well with me. I think there's conflicting motivations between the original response and the vote.

say what now? what series? post them...easy to say shit without actually quoting. I would like to see the "conflicting motivations"

also...I do find this funny being that I really was the only one defending you...or at least, attacking someone who is attacking you. I dont see scum, making this post...unless of course, they were new...ugh.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #376 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:09 pm

less than 24 hours and I am slammed at work. will try to check back

not crazy about either wagon.

VOTE: seraphim for the sake of a wagon.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #408 (isolation #36) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:20 am

UNVOTE:

what is the current vote count on The Bulge?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #410 (isolation #37) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:22 am

DGB 3rd times a charm?

In post 374, curiouskarmadog wrote:noted, DGB posted but didnt answer question...that (of course) doesnt sit right.

In post 258, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 232, DrippingGoofball wrote: FL looks worse - more weak and defensive
dear...sweeite...hun...can we have a quick conversation about something.

do you think people who are defensive are mostly scummy?

also....where is Froot being defensive?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #411 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:23 am

VOTE: the bulge

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #423 (isolation #39) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:58 am

In post 416, SirCakez wrote:Sigh
Sera's claim is probably legit. Don't intentionally act scummy as town, man.

VOTE: the bulge

Say what? I do all the time you saying you don't?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #424 (isolation #40) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:59 am

In post 416, SirCakez wrote:Sigh
Sera's claim is probably legit. Don't intentionally act scummy as town, man.

VOTE: the bulge

In post 420, Marquis wrote:i mean
VOTE: bulge
i guess

would say that I'm stopping pretending to be engaged so that I can nullsheep without hesitation but then again I would have to be engaged in the first place

I'll try to sort a readslist when I'm more free like tomorrow, that usually helps

So I guess you don't want a claim?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #427 (isolation #41) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:00 am

In post 394, Untrod Tripod wrote:so how about we lynch frootloop

The more I think about this relationship the more I think this could be a bus. UT, maybe you should kill me tonight?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #428 (isolation #42) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:02 am

In post 426, Untrod Tripod wrote:gj Marquis

Also this post is silly if The Bulge flips scum. Not sure the point of it.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #442 (isolation #43) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:50 am

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #443 (isolation #44) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:51 am

In post 439, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: Marquis
Hammer was really bad and he hasn't been contributing anything all game

though if this turned into a thing, I would join it.

Marq, any reason you didnt wait for a claim?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #469 (isolation #45) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:15 am

In post 375, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 298, Froot Loop wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV

The series of posts about CKD doesn't sit well with me. I think there's conflicting motivations between the original response and the vote.

say what now? what series? post them...easy to say shit without actually quoting. I would like to see the "conflicting motivations"

also...I do find this funny being that I really was the only one defending you...or at least, attacking someone who is attacking you.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #470 (isolation #46) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:16 am

In post 465, PeregrineV wrote:
Did you put anyone into your neighborhood last night?

In post 466, PeregrineV wrote:Was grapes a vig shot?

best town performance you say?

what made you ask BOTH of these questions.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #473 (isolation #47) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:17 am

In post 471, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 470, curiouskarmadog wrote:what made you ask BOTH of these questions.

In post 465, PeregrineV wrote:
Did you put anyone into your neighborhood last night?
Existing claim which resulted in his not being lynched, combined with his ATE about the claim making him unable to use his ability.

lol, well fuck, I thought Froot said she was in the neighborhood...I went to post what I thought was her "confirmation" with a snarky quip about "acting like you were scum hunting", only to realize she was ASKING for confirmation.....

so nevermind.

and in regards to the last bit....I guess I just dont understand why you would ask. you know there could be hundreds of reasons why grapes was killed...why assume a vig?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #474 (isolation #48) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:27 am

In post 472, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 471, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 466, PeregrineV wrote:Was grapes a vig shot?
Glancing at his iso, suspected and pushed mostly Bulge, interacted slightly with Vedith.
Why would scum NK him?
I wondered the same, I see grapes as neither a vig nor a scum NK. I'm thinking the scum was afraid of a watcher/tracker.

you wondered this really DGB?

one thing that has stuck out about you to me over the years...MANY years ago... was something you said to me once when we were scum together. we were arguing over who to kill and you told me something that I have kind of followed ever since (it is kind of philosophy I use as scum, most the time) ....paraphrasing..."kill your biggest threat, in this example, it was someone voting you before the lynch"...when I said "wont it look obvious?" you told me something like "the town might not think that way and if someone DID bring that up, it would just be WIFOMed away anyway".

sooo, you really are wondering why scum would NK him? you didnt look to see who he was voting yesterday and why?

do you really think he was a vig kill?

seems like a pretty big assumption to a.) think he was vig kill and b.) a scum kill went X(?).

also

UNVOTE:

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #475 (isolation #49) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:16 am

Seraphim...

please claim who you neighborized, or a neighbor needs to come forward.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #479 (isolation #50) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:16 pm

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #496 (isolation #51) » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:29 pm

Agreed. Why do you think?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #618 (isolation #52) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:35 am

jesus guys

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #619 (isolation #53) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:36 am

In post 506, Wingback wrote:Hi everyone! It's late night here so I'm going to catch up tomorrow. If there's anything you want me to comment on specifically, let me know in the meantime.

were you targeted last night for anything?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #620 (isolation #54) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:37 am

and to be fair, all I have actually "claimed" was...I am not a doc.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #622 (isolation #55) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:42 am

also (and I hate it when people say this in games, I almost always think they are scum instantly when they say this...but) I think Ira and Muffin are both town engaged in a town on town hate crime.

Muffin, fyi, I didnt read the set up either...I only just now read it when you guys were going on and on about it....when you said "bookie" I just assumed it was some role you had run into before. Was going to look it and the Alice thing up later.

Ira, do you really think Muffin is scum? to me it looks like he is scum hunting and probably tunneling.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #627 (isolation #56) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:20 am

In post 624, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 621, SirCakez wrote:I think this is a TvT
Irao's response has been pretty good IMO, he argued with zMuffon for 5 pages and I don't think he'd have that conviction as scum

In post 622, curiouskarmadog wrote:also (and I hate it when people say this in games, I almost always think they are scum instantly when they say this...but)
I guess we're lynching SC then, huh?

and for what it's worth, Irao would ABSOLUTELY have this kind of conviction as scum

yep right after you lynch me.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #665 (isolation #57) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:32 am

In post 653, iraonavp wrote:
In post 621, SirCakez wrote:I think this is a TvT
Irao's response has been pretty good IMO, he argued with zMuffon for 5 pages and I don't think he'd have that conviction as scum
I think zMuffon is town too, but I don't think what he's pushing is correct

In post 622, curiouskarmadog wrote:also (and I hate it when people say this in games, I almost always think they are scum instantly when they say this...but) I think Ira and Muffin are both town engaged in a town on town hate crime.
I'm not at all surprised to see people immediately think that tunneling means they are town-aligned...

Ira, do you really think Muffin is scum? to me it looks like he is scum hunting and probably tunneling.
Yes, I am beyond certain.

He doesn't really think I am scum-aligned, and he knows that people will think he is town-aligned if he cyberbullies me and spams sarcastic rhetoric... If he was town-aligned he would evaluate more and not make sarcastic and weak rebuttals to discredit valid points.

scum dont tunnel. they lie and act like they are tunneling.

I dont think Muffin is scum. if I had a gun pointed to my head and I HAD to pick between the two of you, I would say you were scum. he meta-ed you...he found a game where you knew what a bookie was. SO you really dont "understand" where town would immediate tunnel on you thinking they caught you in a lie?

speaking of which.

Muffin, can you provide that game again.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #666 (isolation #58) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:35 am

In post 658, iraonavp wrote:
In post 636, zMuffinMan wrote:you raise a good point mr cake

i also think that if iraon were scum, he wouldn't argue back when someone calls him scum, he would just accept it and admit he's scum or something... i also think that if he were scum and thought his role would make him seem town, there's not a chance he'd argue about that either

In post 638, zMuffinMan wrote:i think your meta point about him (that you've never seen him roll scum but you can guess how differently he'd act) is also fairly strong

i may have to look elsewhere today
Exactly, you're scum-aligned...

See, there is no way that he makes those posts if he is town-aligned because it's just deflecting and so fake!

this doesnt make ANY SENSE at all. how is he deflecting? who is he deflecting to? What is he delfecting? how do these post mean he is scum-aligned?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #677 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:04 am

In post 675, Froot Loop wrote: I think Muffin's town because of the interaction with ira, I'm also town-reading CKD and was Hark.
.

since when?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #679 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:33 am

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #680 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:33 am

mod prod Wingback

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #769 (isolation #62) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:04 am

ugh...

I dont want to do this but

VOTE: dgb

I am sorry my dear, but I have a feeling you drew scum this time. hopefully we can be BFFs still after this.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #770 (isolation #63) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:06 am

also the Iran Muffin continued back and forth is just noise right now..I skimmed it yes...but didnt deep dive it.

if I get a second today, I want to go check out that other game with Iran had contact with or knew about a bookie.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #793 (isolation #64) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:00 pm

In post 773, FakeGod wrote:
Wingback is an alt of a banned user, and is being replaced.

extension please mod.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #794 (isolation #65) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:01 pm

In post 785, DrippingGoofball wrote:You know what?
VOTE: Katsuki

no comment on my vote?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #795 (isolation #66) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:02 pm

In post 792, kraska77 wrote:hey guys
whaddup

were you targeted last night?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #826 (isolation #67) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:55 pm

UNVOTE:

If that is an appeal to my emotion I will be pissed later

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #844 (isolation #68) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:55 am

VOTE: spiff

this is the 3rd game I have had with him in the row I think. the last two? he was scum, didnt play and replaced out. the only other game i have played with him? he was town and stuck it out.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #845 (isolation #69) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:56 am

also he is not replacing out of any of his other games.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #846 (isolation #70) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:58 am

In post 250, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 241, Spiffeh wrote:Ok later today for sure

To make up for my absence I will catch all the scum
hey spiff, I feel like every game we play in when you are town, you post more.

when you get a scum role, you lurk....and sometimes replace out.

Am I crazy or is this a thing?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #848 (isolation #71) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:00 am

we will see. I am going to check out those games, to make sure I am not making this up.

UNVOTE:

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #849 (isolation #72) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:05 am

apparently nope...last game he was town.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #850 (isolation #73) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:05 am

let me check the one before.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #851 (isolation #74) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:07 am

and nope...the one before that he lurked..but way also just town...

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #852 (isolation #75) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:14 am

fuck...I just dont know who to vote.

my gut is saying DGB and I dont like the Kat wagon

ugh.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #854 (isolation #76) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:16 am

whatever tired of trying to figure it out today.

VOTE: dgb

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #855 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:17 am

In post 853, kraska77 wrote:how about more votes on dgb?
i've played with scumdgb before
and i get the same vibes from her here. from the way she claimed and her iso

pedit: join ussss

UNVOTE:

go on.

what has she done in the past that makes you think she is scum in this game?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #895 (isolation #78) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:47 am

In post 866, SirCakez wrote:
In post 844, curiouskarmadog wrote:VOTE: spiff

this is the 3rd game I have had with him in the row I think. the last two? he was scum, didnt play and replaced out. the only other game i have played with him? he was town and stuck it out.
nah this isn't valid, he was town and replaced out in Mass Effect

yeah that was the one I went back and looked up, thus the unvote.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #896 (isolation #79) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:51 am

wouldnt it be "funny" if both Iran and Muffin were both scum....you would get my nod as the best scum pairing.

okay...

less than 4 hours.

vote Katsuki.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #897 (isolation #80) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:53 am

also I think i just hammered....so I am either a hero or highly suspicious.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #910 (isolation #81) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 907, SirCakez wrote:ayy lmao
kraska77, thenewearth, zMuffinMan, Froot Loop = people who didn't vote katsuki yesterday

gonna start here
VOTE: froot loop
my zmuffin townread is definitely a lot weaker ftr

Going to reread the wagons and what happened when

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #911 (isolation #82) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:09 pm

...and see what ...

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #938 (isolation #83) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:59 pm

In post 912, kraska77 wrote:dgb is solid town i guess...

why is that?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #939 (isolation #84) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:00 pm

In post 913, iraonavp wrote:
In post 908, kraska77 wrote:uhhh :/
ira why didnt you bodyguard seraphim
Why didn't anyone else?

I didn't think he would be killed.

I guarded you thinking that he would kill you and I would die instead.

work me through this line of thinking.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #940 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:02 pm

In post 932, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 925, Vedith wrote:UT is scum and then I'd go with either kraska or PV (Maybe TNE, not sure what to think with the roles).
Rest I don't see as scum.
kraska is definitely town. Scum would have bus'ed, not posted, or made shitty cases on me.

He defended the scum... no buddy does that.

oh come on now.

on a lighter note unrelated note, it just occurred to me that if we ever did a hybrid. it would be insane.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #966 (isolation #86) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:30 am

In post 941, kraska77 wrote:
In post 938, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 912, kraska77 wrote:dgb is solid town i guess...
why is that?

In post 912, kraska77 wrote:it looked like there were many lynches on the table but she strongarmed a lynch on katsuki,
plus setup says theres only one bookie in scumteam, i doubt she would start a wagon on him and throw him under the bus this early into the game when there were other lynches on the table too
what do you think?

I am not sure...though I guess as scum, she could of pulled her vote last minute for whatever reason since we were so close to a no lynch. I am just not sold she is town.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #969 (isolation #87) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:35 am

In post 950, zMuffinMan wrote:
by the bye, there are two reasons i'm NEVER going to consider iraon town and i'm never going to be surprised when he continues not dying every single night

with brilliant statements like this, if Iran is not scum, what do you think scum would do? sort of a self fulling prophecy you are setting up for yourself.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #974 (isolation #88) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:39 am

but betting/wagering is modkilling site banning offense...best to stop.

also if you really want to have a pissing contest, do it after the game is over.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #977 (isolation #89) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:41 am

In post 971, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 969, curiouskarmadog wrote:with brilliant statements like this, if Iran is not scum, what do you think scum would do? sort of a self fulling prophecy you are setting up for yourself.
iraon's a claimed bodyguard

how the fuck are scum going to set him up?

it's only a self-fulfilling prophecy if he never protects a single player from a night kill for as long as he lives

i thought you were indicating that scum would never kill him.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #979 (isolation #90) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:42 am

In post 939, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 913, iraonavp wrote:
In post 908, kraska77 wrote:uhhh :/
ira why didnt you bodyguard seraphim
Why didn't anyone else?

I didn't think he would be killed.

I guarded you thinking that he would kill you and I would die instead.
work me through this line of thinking.

though now we are talking about it.

Iran...please answer this.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #995 (isolation #91) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:07 am

In post 985, iraonavp wrote: I'm supposed to die or else get mislhnched by zMuffinMan...

why is that?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #996 (isolation #92) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:09 am

In post 993, Vedith wrote:
In post 991, SirCakez wrote:Irao can you pls talk about your non-zMuffin reads?
UT Preferably.

all this.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1009 (isolation #93) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:04 am

In post 1003, Ankamius wrote:This is a good vote.

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

I agree, but why do you agree?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1014 (isolation #94) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:55 am

In post 998, iraonavp wrote:
In post 995, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 985, iraonavp wrote: I'm supposed to die or else get mislhnched by zMuffinMan...
why is that?
What?

Because every time I don't die he gets more evidence to crush me, and if I die then I immediately win...

Win?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1015 (isolation #95) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:57 am

In post 1013, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1009, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1003, Ankamius wrote:This is a good vote.

VOTE: Untrod Tripod
I agree, but why do you agree?
His sheeping onto me is the reason; his method looks really manufactured.

Ummm, he voted you AFTER you voted him.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1021 (isolation #96) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:45 am

In post 1016, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1015, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1013, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1009, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1003, Ankamius wrote:This is a good vote.

VOTE: Untrod Tripod
I agree, but why do you agree?
His sheeping onto me is the reason; his method looks really manufactured.
Ummm, he voted you AFTER you voted him.
And?

I'm talking about his sheeping Muffin's suspicion on me.

Show me the quotes you are talking about.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1032 (isolation #97) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:17 am

consider my vote on UT for now.

I will be gone (probably) most of the weekend, and dont want to leave my vote unmonitored (so to speak).

also waiting on Ank to answer my question/provide some quotes.

also, I am not convinced that DGB is town.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1033 (isolation #98) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:18 am

I am also feeling uneasy about iraonavp

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1038 (isolation #99) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:39 am

In post 806, iraonavp wrote:
In post 803, Katsuki wrote:OH HEY LOOK AT THAT

RESISTANCE TO IRAON LYNCH?
COUNTERWAGON SPRINGING UP IN ITS PLACE?

Not only are you terribly wrong on me DGB , but why do you think muffin is scum?
Yes, because people can see that I am town-aligned...

In post 816, iraonavp wrote:
In post 777, Katsuki wrote:Hmm I think iraon is very convincing in that muffin is scum-aligned because there is no way a town-aligned muffin derives such sadistic pleasure from having me constantly prodded by FG.
Not really, but you should vote him anyway!

also it is not making any sense that Iran "protected" kraska. if there was a possibility that Iran thought kraska could be scum, he would have to figure they would kill Seraphim last night to avoid losing Kraska..or at least minimize the damage.

also now that I spent some time rereading, not feeling DGB as scum.

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:40 am

I didnt say this, but I posted the above quotes because I am not liking the back and forth between iran and kat.

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:00 am

In post 952, iraonavp wrote:Katsuki would never bus me if we were scum-aligned together...

also what is this statement based on?

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:32 pm

In post 1038, curiouskarmadog wrote:
also now that I spent some time rereading, not feeling DGB as scum.

In post 1049, DrippingGoofball wrote: Either you're scum or your reads are terrible.

oh man darling, maybe you are right.

refresh my memory who are your top two scum suspects again?

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:35 pm

IRAN, please answer these questions and quit ignoring them.

In post 1014, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 998, iraonavp wrote:
In post 995, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 985, iraonavp wrote: I'm supposed to die or else get mislhnched by zMuffinMan...
why is that?
What?

Because every time I don't die he gets more evidence to crush me, and if I die then I immediately win...
Win?

address this comment.

In post 1038, curiouskarmadog wrote:
also it is not making any sense that Iran "protected" kraska. if there was a possibility that Iran thought kraska could be scum, he would have to figure they would kill Seraphim last night to avoid losing Kraska..or at least minimize the damage.

In post 1040, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 952, iraonavp wrote:Katsuki would never bus me if we were scum-aligned together...

also what is this statement based on?

also why did you not answer these the first time I asked them?

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 1050, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1038, curiouskarmadog wrote:
also now that I spent some time rereading, not feeling DGB as scum.

In post 1049, DrippingGoofball wrote: Either you're scum or your reads are terrible.
oh man darling, maybe you are right.

refresh my memory who are your top two scum suspects again?

and while you are at it, explain to me WHY you have a town read on Iran

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:43 pm

In post 500, iraonavp wrote:
In post 485, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 483, iraonavp wrote:
In post 452, zMuffinMan wrote:fwiw i think seraphim might be bookie
What does this mean?
what do you think it means?
Why would I ask you if I already knew what it means?

What does "bookie" mean?

UNVOTE: Marquis

I am not voting Iran right now because of this single exchange. It looks genuine. That being said some of his actions look sketchy and the fact he didn't answer my questions looks worse.

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:51 pm

In post 1058, DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm thinking CKD, Ankamius for scum.

So as scum I hammered last minute the bookie and didn't let it go to no lynch?

I clearly suspected you at the time and could have left my vote there as scum.

Dgb you really think I scum?

I mean really?

I don't know if you are just being dgb and are town or if are scum just trying to.....fuck I don't know either. I don't think you and Iran are scum together.

Fuck I wish your reads were better or you could at least explain to me why Iran is town

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:54 pm

So then answer this question

In post 1009, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1003, Ankamius wrote:This is a good vote.

VOTE: Untrod Tripod
I agree, but why do you agree?

curiouskarmadog · Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:07 pm

Ank,

I asked you why you voted UT (at the time the wagon looked like it might be moving) You initially said it was because he sheeped. Nothing about red flags. What MADE YOU VOTE UT WHEN YOU DID?

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:07 am

sorry all for the quote wall, just not sure how to ask this any other way.

In post 1080, iraonavp wrote:
In post 1051, curiouskarmadog wrote:IRAN, please answer these questions and quit ignoring them.

In post 1014, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 998, iraonavp wrote:
In post 995, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 985, iraonavp wrote: I'm supposed to die or else get mislhnched by zMuffinMan...
why is that?
What?

Because every time I don't die he gets more evidence to crush me, and if I die then I immediately win...
Win?
What?

address this comment.

In post 1038, curiouskarmadog wrote:
also it is not making any sense that Iran "protected" kraska. if there was a possibility that Iran thought kraska could be scum, he would have to figure they would kill Seraphim last night to avoid losing Kraska..or at least minimize the damage.

Well, I didn't consider that, and I thought kraska was town-aligned.

In post 1040, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 952, iraonavp wrote:Katsuki would never bus me if we were scum-aligned together...

also what is this statement based on?
Because I would ask nicely not to bus me like what happened before, and he didn't bus me...

also why did you not answer these the first time I asked them?
I was posting from my phone at a funeral so there wasn't much time to give a detailed response.

1.) you said "Because every time I don't die he gets more evidence to crush me, and if I die then I immediately win..." What do you mean win?

2.)" Because I would ask nicely not to bus me like what happened before, and he didn't bus me..." when/where did you ask him not to bus you? I have no clue what you are saying here.

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:13 am

In post 1083, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In find it looks like you are keeping options open a lot in this game.

what options have I left open? If you really believed that why havent you tried to pin down my read on ANYONE? you havent directly asked me once about what I think about anything or anyone. but lets say for a moment I HAVE left my options open. do you have a particular game where I was scum that did that in mind or are you just saying that?

how come when I asked you earlier in this game if you really thought someone being "defensive is scummy" you didnt answer it? Care to do so now? you know I like to meta, so tread lightly dear.

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:13 am

of the two leaders i am picking..

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

just cant shake the feeling this is scum

that being said, someone sell me on Ank being scum in regards to his voting of Kat yesterday (ie when he did it), I would listen. that goes to all of you currently on his wagon, sell me why Ank is scum he is at -2 (I think) now would be a great time to push "you man" as scum....

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:33 pm

In post 1134, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1130, curiouskarmadog wrote:of the two leaders i am picking..

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

just cant shake the feeling this is scum

that being said, someone sell me on Ank being scum in regards to his voting of Kat yesterday (ie when he did it), I would listen. that goes to all of you currently on his wagon, sell me why Ank is scum he is at -2 (I think) now would be a great time to push "you man" as scum....
How come you are asking for a case on Ank but not on UT, given that you vote is based on "feelings you can't shake?"

You had similar feelings on me and I am not so your feelings are crap.

why would I ask for a case on UT when I am voting him?

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:34 pm

In post 1134, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1130, curiouskarmadog wrote:of the two leaders i am picking..

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

just cant shake the feeling this is scum

that being said, someone sell me on Ank being scum in regards to his voting of Kat yesterday (ie when he did it), I would listen. that goes to all of you currently on his wagon, sell me why Ank is scum he is at -2 (I think) now would be a great time to push "you man" as scum....
How come you are asking for a case on Ank but not on UT, given that you vote is based on "feelings you can't shake?"

You had similar feelings on me and I am not so your feelings are crap.

and lets be clear here DGB because you are getting a little flip floppy.

are my feelings crap?

or am I scum?

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 1131, Untrod Tripod wrote:
he's reverse-engineering his "scumreads" after being asked why.
he has no actual trajectory to his reads, they have stopped/started without reason or explanation.

as an example his vote on me is a clear shot of self-preservation but rather than admitting that he tried to pull together some reasoning for it that didn't hold up to scrutiny (see his exchange with zMuffin)

by contrast, the wagon on me is based on... nothing? gut? omgus? self-preservation? it's unclear what the reasoning is because even the wagon cheerleader Vedith is only saying "UT is scum because he's scum"

now the first bolded IS actually scummy...Ank, your thought on this?

and yeah, my vote is/was...

UNVOTE:

because of gut. a feeling I have had awhile...almost nothing you can do to defend against a gut vote, I get that. scum uses it a lot too, I get that. but I cant tell you how many fucking times I get an early gut vibe, then second guess myself and remove it (ugh, see above, maybe?).

UT, now sell me on why your town. what exactly have you done that is town? If you had to pick the rest of the scum, who is it? I assume Ank....but who else given the information presented? I dont want to no lynch today

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:43 pm

In post 1135, SirCakez wrote:UT is giving me really mixed vibes which is frustrating me
Lynching him is OK I guess but I really want Scum Loop gone

go in more depth about UT...what scummy vibes? what townish vibes? it is easy to say these things, but I want to see where you are actually getting this from.

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:20 pm

that is not what he is saying you did.

curiouskarmadog · Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:05 pm

In post 1137, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1134, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1130, curiouskarmadog wrote:of the two leaders i am picking..

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

just cant shake the feeling this is scum

that being said, someone sell me on Ank being scum in regards to his voting of Kat yesterday (ie when he did it), I would listen. that goes to all of you currently on his wagon, sell me why Ank is scum he is at -2 (I think) now would be a great time to push "you man" as scum....
How come you are asking for a case on Ank but not on UT, given that you vote is based on "feelings you can't shake?"

You had similar feelings on me and I am not so your feelings are crap.
and lets be clear here DGB because you are getting a little flip floppy.

are my feelings crap?

or am I scum?

Dgb you seem to be picking and choosing the questions you want to answer all game. You seemed to over looked this one.

curiouskarmadog · Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:55 am

mod prod Froot Loop

her last actual post with content was on Wed

curiouskarmadog · Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:57 am

also it looks like she has had no problem posting content in another game.

curiouskarmadog · Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:12 am

to be fair it was only in one game...but it was sat and sun and I didnt see a mention of V/LA there (though I didnt look to thoroughly)

curiouskarmadog · Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:36 pm

In post 1191, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1186, curiouskarmadog wrote:
mod prod Froot Loop

her last actual post with content was on Wed
Your ignoring me isn't going un-noticed

Lol say what now? yiubhave to be joking right now

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:22 am

In post 1197, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1134, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1130, curiouskarmadog wrote:of the two leaders i am picking..

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

just cant shake the feeling this is scum

that being said, someone sell me on Ank being scum in regards to his voting of Kat yesterday (ie when he did it), I would listen. that goes to all of you currently on his wagon, sell me why Ank is scum he is at -2 (I think) now would be a great time to push "you man" as scum....
How come you are asking for a case on Ank but not on UT, given that you vote is based on "feelings you can't shake?"

You had similar feelings on me and I am not so your feelings are crap.
REFRESHING CKD'S MEMORY

I think maybe you are having trouble answering my questions because clearly you are not reading the thread. I addressed this, WITH TWO POSTS. soooo

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:23 am

In post 1198, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1196, zMuffinMan wrote:froot loop is the best option out of everyone if i had to choose outside of ankamius i guess
I can go along with that if CKD stops distracting with his derping

I am distracting you from voting? you cant pay attention enough to vote? are you really putting blame on me for you not voting Ank/froot right now?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:26 am

In post 1165, DrippingGoofball wrote: If you want me to stop flip flopping make your alignment more transparent.

if you care so much, why havent you asked me what my stance is on ....well anyone? seems to me that you really dont care who I think is scum.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:39 am

ugh, I dont like any of the current wagons (Ank and UT). If I was a betting man, at least one if not the rest of the scum is probably one of those who are not making any real waves.

guess I am going Ank. just basically because between the two, a Ank flip will tell us more.

VOTE: Ankamius

going to be out of pocket for the next 2 days....I will try to check/post but it will be by phone.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:45 am

In post 1197, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1134, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1130, curiouskarmadog wrote:of the two leaders i am picking..

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

just cant shake the feeling this is scum

that being said, someone sell me on Ank being scum in regards to his voting of Kat yesterday (ie when he did it), I would listen. that goes to all of you currently on his wagon, sell me why Ank is scum he is at -2 (I think) now would be a great time to push "you man" as scum....
How come you are asking for a case on Ank but not on UT, given that you vote is based on "feelings you can't shake?"

You had similar feelings on me and I am not so your feelings are crap.
REFRESHING CKD'S MEMORY

lets answer this moot question again.

I didnt ask for a UT case BECAUSE I was voting him.

I asked for an Ank case (at the time) because I wanted to see if anyone who supposedly thought he was scum, would push him as scum.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:47 am

now DGB I am officially pinning you down (hint: this is how you figure out where a person stands on another person).

am I scum or am I just "awful" town?

what are you stances on UT and Ank right now at this moment in the game?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:51 am

In post 1211, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1198, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1196, zMuffinMan wrote:froot loop is the best option out of everyone if i had to choose outside of ankamius i guess
I can go along with that if CKD stops distracting with his derping
I am distracting you from voting? you cant pay attention enough to vote? are you really putting blame on me for you not voting Ank/froot right now?

also answer this, am I really stopping you for voting ank/froot?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:00 am

I think that is -1 Ank....claim please

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:53 am

In post 1238, Untrod Tripod wrote:You know, we have the time to make it happen, so

vote Froot Loop

I can switch back to Ank if it comes down to it but I just prefer Froot Loop today

Come on Ank join us.

Wtf this game.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:53 am

Ank,

Claim ?

Thought UT's recent vote?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:58 am

And UT's vote?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:01 am

In post 1243, curiouskarmadog wrote:And UT's vote?

This was for ank

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:01 am

On phone

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:04 am

Well there are about 3 players in this game just coasting. If I had to guess at least one scum is chilling there. Froot is one of them. The timing of UT's vote is strange. Also asking the guy he was just voting to join the wagon is strange.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:05 am

I need to read some shit. Can't do it right now.

UNVOTE:

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:14 am

In post 1251, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1248, curiouskarmadog wrote:Well there are about 3 players in this game just coasting. If I had to guess at least one scum is chilling there. Froot is one of them. The timing of UT's vote is strange. Also asking the guy he was just voting to join the wagon is strange.
He seems motivated by self-preservation, as I've said.

Also I've been stating a scumread on Froot Loop since day 1. Pretending to be surprised is not a good look for you.

is your FL suspicion what I am surprised about? please post the quote where I said THAT was what I was surprised about.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:21 am

In post 1254, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1253, Maestro wrote:And right when we switch from Ank to FL, he tries to throw his hands up in the air and pass on the gamestate.
CKD?

there is a bucket of shit that is wrong here.

1.) "WE switch". Who is we?

In post 1097, Maestro wrote:VOTE: Ankamius

not in the mood for that shit

I see one vote switch to FL that was UT.

2.) my "wtf" statement was I was confused how the guy voting Ank, decided to stop voting Ank and vote for FL (all the while asking Ank to join him on the FL wagon)...all of this happens 24 hours before the day ends...god, even as I type that out I am still like WTF.

3.) nobody really was talking about/voting FL (other than Cakes) late in this day, UNTIL I posted this.

In post 1186, curiouskarmadog wrote:
mod prod Froot Loop

her last actual post with content was on Wed

4.) also bussing? is FL scum? I just noticed a lurker lurking, did a quick current meta to see if she was posting, and asked her to be prodded.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:25 am

Maestro, I would like you to address the above.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:54 am

In post 1258, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1256, curiouskarmadog wrote:2.) my "wtf" statement was I was confused how the guy voting Ank, decided to stop voting Ank and vote for FL (all the while asking Ank to join him on the FL wagon)...all of this happens 24 hours before the day ends...god, even as I type that out I am still like WTF.
do me a favor and don't lie about what I said very plainly

In post 1238, Untrod Tripod wrote:You know, we have the time to make it happen, so

vote Froot Loop

I can switch back to Ank if it comes down to it but I just prefer Froot Loop today

Come on Ank join us.

you think I am lying? well then I must be scum right? no reason for fucking town to lie.

this is the post that fucking surprised me..I never said your suspicion surprised me...it was the fucking timing of this vote. you quote the fucking post where I SAID ANYTHING different in regards to what I was all "WTF" about.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:57 am

24 hours before the end of the day on a guy you hasnt posted on site since Sunday?

over another guy that you supposedly thought was scum and was at -1?

yeah what is surprising about that?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:58 am

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

something is not right here.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:10 am

well you already called me a liar...so...I must be scum right?

or do you want to back track on that, and just insult.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:14 am

bullshit.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:19 am

why would town lie?

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:21 am

and you never actually quoted where I lied. I asked you to post where I lied (guess you missed that question though, right?)

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:29 am

In post 1275, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1273, curiouskarmadog wrote:why would town lie?
people aren't rational actors

the timing of my vote is not "strange". me asking ank to join me isn't "strange". you're trying to reframe what happened in a way that just isn't true.

how the fuck do you know what is strange to me? WHY WOULD SOMEONE WHO IS TOWN, VOTING SOMEONE THEY THOUGHT WAS SCUM, UNVOTE THEM 24 HOURS BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY. THEN ASK THAT SAME PERSON (AGAIN WHO THEY THOUGHT WERE SCUM) TO VOTE WITH HIM.

THAT

IS

FUCKING

STRANGE.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:30 am

In post 1276, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1248, curiouskarmadog wrote:If I had to guess at least one scum is chilling there. Froot is one of them
also why the fuck aren't you voting for Froot with me if you're scumreading him? am I bussing Froot now?

All I was saying here, is that Froot was one of the people who are chilling (AND COULD BE SCUM).

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:32 am

In post 1277, Untrod Tripod wrote:if you think I'm scum, I'm pulling votes off of (town in your opinion?) Ank to try to kickstart a wagon on my partner?

or if I'm scum and Froot and Ank are town I'm pulling votes off of a mislynch onto another mislynch? why?

who is your partner in this scenario?

maybe IS scum and you are trying for a no lynch. maybe you just want a no lynch. I dont know. WIFOM fun though.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:35 am

In post 1278, Untrod Tripod wrote:you can think my vote is strange but explain how it could possibly lead you to vote for me, because I can't think of a reason why it would make me more likely scum that town? why not just wait it out on Ank if I'm trying to mislynch him? why draw attention to myself to bring a wagon onto someone else?

your motivations do not look town...

X thinks Y is scum
Y is at -2L and the day has 24 hours to go.

instead of trying to get people to vote Y like X did here

In post 893, Untrod Tripod wrote:SO HOW ABOUT THAT NO LYNCH YOU FUCKIN SCRUBS

X removes his vote on Y to vote Z

then asked Y to vote Z with him

THIS IS NOT A TOWN PLAY nor is it consistent.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:48 am

you tell me.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:49 am

why are you all of the sudden not worried about

In post 893, Untrod Tripod wrote: THAT NO LYNCH YOU FUCKIN SCRUBS

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:52 am

.........

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:54 am

okay,...

lets say that true.

why did you go immediately to "you' re a liar"

whatever

sort of pissed right now.

curiouskarmadog · Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:57 am

UNVOTE:

whatever

going to reread this shit (how it went down) later

I have got a fucking slammed day tomorrow...

fuck

whatever...this game (mafia as a whole) gets me riled up, not sure why I play.

will look at this when I am calmer.

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:25 am

Checking in. On phone haven't (re)read will vote whoever if needed

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:58 am

VOTE: froot

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:59 am

-1 will check back for a claim in an hour-ish

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:55 am

In post 1322, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can someone vig CKD?

You don't like my vote?

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:59 am

Seems like I pretty useless statement if Froot flips scum. You know something I don't?

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:03 am

Sure seemed like a useless post though.

curiouskarmadog · Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:07 am

This game is frustrating.

I usually like playing with dgb. But this game, not so much. I really hope she does flip scum at one point. Then I can say "oh this was just an act". A town flip though, seriously going to take this personally.

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:05 pm

In post 1331, curiouskarmadog wrote:This game is frustrating.

I usually like playing with dgb. But this game, not so much. I really hope she does flip scum at one point. Then I can say "oh this was just an act". A town flip though, seriously going to take this personally.

In post 1337, FakeGod wrote:
DrippingGoofball, who was
Card Guard
,
Nine of Hearts
, and
Town
Compulsive Bodyguard
, has been
killed
in
Night 3
.

so thats a thing.

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:07 pm

rereading

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:12 pm

so that is 3 bodyguards and one scum one.

Ivan has claimed to be one as well...so there are 4 in this game?

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:18 pm

how many scum would you say we are still most likely dealing with to balance this out?

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:28 pm

if we are probably dealing with one more scum, why is Maestro providing who he got the guilty on?

curiouskarmadog · Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:46 pm

In post 1381, Maestro wrote:
In post 1380, zMuffinMan wrote:he means one of the four that aren't him in my town list
^^^

I'm not claiming my Guilty until everyone has claimed, and I think there's very solid reasons (especially from my PoV) to not claim it before that and/or at all.

Then why say anything at all? This feels like a gambit.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:23 am

On phone

In post 1399, Maestro wrote:Btw @ira / @ckd, I'm not sure if you realize it, but I almost singlehandedly switched the lynch to Froot Loop yesterday hours from deadline. I never in a million years would've needed to do that, nor would I have wanted to do that, if I were somehow a Scum double-voter in this setup. You have no fucking ground to stand on if you want to try and discredit my result or the fact that I'm Town. So you can stop trying right now.

Yeah I know. That is why u haven't voted you. It doesn't mKe since as scum either.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:29 am

Also I am

The Caterpillar- Dealer - VT

ALso not a doc

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:31 am

So that I am clear we have two bodyguards claiming to have targetted the same person right?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:38 am

so that is all the claims.

who is the guilty on so we can wrap this game up?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:47 am

In post 1355, Maestro wrote:
In post 1353, zMuffinMan wrote:you started the night drinking with mates then someone, perhaps not the most sober of you all, decided it was time for a road trip. you all got in a car and headed off. after about half an hour, you realised you needed to piss and asked them to stop. you wandered off into the woods to do your business but when you'd finished up, you realised you didn't remember which way you came from. you stumbled around looking for the road for a fair while before you came across an empty cabin. you weren't really sure whether it was wise to enter said cabin, but you did so anyway and found it was quite a cosy little place. but it was getting a bit cold and you felt you needed to warm up a bit so you looked around the cabin for a blanket or something. you opened a closet door and accidentally stumbled into narnia. normally one might be adventurous in narnia, but after many uneventful months living with the beavers, you realised, "oh shit, i have a mafia game to play" and came back to the real world. only a few hours had passed in the real world

am i close?
No. I meant last Night in-game. But uh..... I've got a little conundrum here.

Gonna have to give some context:

I'm the actual Queen of Hearts of the Queen of Hearts. (lol)

I'm a Double-voting Cop & Honorable Vig. I can investigate players during the Night, and if I get a guilty, I can Vig them on a different Night. FakeGod has confirmed (multiple times) that my sanity is not known
HOWEVER
TNE targeted Katsuki on Night 1 and got a Guilty. I got another Guilty last Night, so either I'm completely sane and hit Scum like a boss, or I'm trigger-happy (or whatever the modifier is) and I always receive guilties. The latter would make some sense since my role would balance out to a Double-voting Non-Consecutive Vig.

So here's my plan: because we don't know whether I'm sane or not, I'm not going to tell you who my Guilty is on. All I will say is that it's one of the 4 other players listed in zMuffinMan's 1340. If we lynch outside of that list and hit Scum, it should be GG. If we lynch outside of that list and hit Town, I'll Vig the player I have a Guilty on, and if we assume it's currently 8:1, at worst (ignoring all non-Scum-NK Night actions) we go into tomorrow 5:1. At best, I'm sane and I hit Scum tonight for GG.

How's that sound?

okay...so lets "pretend" I am a moron.

how is this exactly going to work with a.) all the variables (bodyguards) in this game plus 1 (maybe 2) scum left who might have some other unknown power. I can envision all kinds of scenarios that this could go wrong tonight and we are in the same position tomorrow, but all we have is this and a "shrug" (not sure what happened). Now there is no reason to go into all the "what ifs", but I need someone to explain to me why exactly we dont get to know the guilty today.

I get you look awful town from yesterday and maybe I am just paranoid, but something feels off here. You can easily say I am "trying to discredit you"....but I am not. I am trying to understand what the fuck is going on. I want to know who the guilty is on. I want to lynch that guilty today.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:04 am

In post 1460, Maestro wrote:Do we lynch him or let me Vig him tonight?

LOL

NO, you lynch me today. I dont want to be in this game any longer. I dont want any fucking shenanigans tomorrow. "I tried to kill CKD...but...."

it is either you or I today.

VOTE: Maestro

I am town....but have a guilty on me, I get what has to happen today.

I thought this was a gambit. funny you "targeted" me last night for no reason...funny I am one of the only ones who had an issue with this..

whatever....kill me

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:14 am

In post 1464, Untrod Tripod wrote:shrug

lynch the cop guilty is mafia 101

vote ckd

Yeah I get it.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:14 am

I am still town. But I get it

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:18 am

I think he is probably scum. He is hoping he can get lucky with a kill tonight to take out a bunch of bodyguards. It is not a coincidence that the "guilty" is on a non bodyguard and on someone who isn't believing the post right off. With all the bodyguards in this game I do not believe town would get two vigs and one of this is an insane cop

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:19 am

Before my lynch, all the bodyguards needs to organize who they are protecting tonight

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:21 am

I hope you warmed up the dead thread dgb. We should have a conversation.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:38 am

Map it out for both. Make sure all players quote it and are on board.

Under no circumstances should anyone other than maestro or I be lynched, though I would advocate for a no lynch as well. Marstro's plan of lynching anyone else is fucking ridiculous . God this is a scum gambit.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:06 am

"Town cop" wouldn't want to lynch anyone else with this many bodyguards and probably only one scum left.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:42 am

why are you posting this? if you think I am scum, what is the point?

but good job ignoring this completely

In post 1476, curiouskarmadog wrote:"Town cop" wouldn't want to lynch anyone else with this many bodyguards and probably only one scum left.

have fun with the "well gee, I must be insane" bit tomorrow. so what is your plan for tomorrow?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:45 am

In post 1450, Untrod Tripod wrote:hue

scum done fucked up not shooting Maestro

also pretty big coincidence this too.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:59 am

If he really thought I was scum why would he want to lynch anyone else today with so many bodyguards in this game?

If he thought I was scum, why isn't he voting me?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:02 am

At the end of the day I know I am going to be lynched. I am not happy about it, but it is what it is. But the double voter needs to go tomorrow. He is going to try to lean on the "I must be insane" bullshit.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:08 am

There is not, I have said probably multiple times. But with the claims and flips shown how many scum you think is in the game?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:11 am

Look there is no point arguing with me. I am a dude with a guilty on me. I just don't want anyone ( other than maestro) lynched today. I am now saying what I am saying because I don't want you guys fooled tomorrow.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:13 am

Don't let maestro convince you guys to lynch anyone else today. Him wanting to try to big me tonight instead is just more of the gambit. Just kill me after the bodyguards arrange their night actions.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:14 am

Vig....one more part

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:32 am

I agree.

But

I am not scum

And I do not think the game would be balanced if the cop/vig was insane

(Shrug).

No one seems to be able to answer why the "cop" would want to kill anyone but his "guilty" today.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:35 am

So what happens tomorrow when I flip town and maestro is still alive?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:40 am

A scum double voter who was the last scum (or part of a pair) would do this exact thing.

"I'm a vig/cop/double voter and I have a guilty. Okay everyone claim. Good. But let's kill someone else and I will try to vig my guilty. Next day, Oh no, I was blocked lets kill my guilty." In a game where there are so many body guards who can all die in one night. What a great plan for the scum double voter.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:50 am

At what point is he removed from the game?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:51 am

You can't let him get to lylo

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:02 am

When (or "if" if you prefer) I flip town? You can't let him get to lylo

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:09 am

So when I flip town, you think he is just insane? God this is fustrating

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:47 am

In post 1512, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1509, Maestro wrote:In addition, nobody is going to Bodyguard you, so I don't see why that matters. Finally, and my main point thus far, is that if there is one Scum left and it's not you (e.g. If I'm a Paranoid Cop) lynching somebody else today allows us to eliminate another person who is not you before tomorrow. If there is one Scum left and it IS you (e.g. If I'm a Sane Cop or if I got lucky and hit youScum even though I am Paranoid) then we win tomorrow morning when I shoot you even if we don't lynch youScum today.
If we don't lynch ckd, wouldn't it make more sense to not vig him if whoever we lynch flips town? You investigate another person to confirm what kind of sanity you have first

no, there will be some type of fucking shenanigans. there always is. there is a fucking guilty on me. Maestro or I have to die today. if we are both alive tomorrow, we will be in the same position but closer to fuckage.

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:47 am

In post 1508, Maestro wrote:Ckd, I hadn't voted you yet and I still won't until we as a group decide to lynch either you or someone who is not you. That hasn't been decided yet so I'm not voting you. You seem to think that at some point I advocated for a No Lynch...? Where did I do that?

What else do you have a problem with?

where did I say you advocated for a no lynch?

curiouskarmadog · Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:48 am

In post 1515, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 1508, Maestro wrote:Ckd, I hadn't voted you yet and I still won't until we as a group decide to lynch either you or someone who is not you. That hasn't been decided yet so I'm not voting you. You seem to think that at some point I advocated for a No Lynch...? Where did I do that?

What else do you have a problem with?
where did I say you advocated for a no lynch?

a no lynch doesnt help your scum game plan.