Secret Hitler (Voting)

[Cephrir]

Hi, I'll catch up soon.

[Cephrir]

Um let me repeat myself if this wasn't clear:

Jelly had no choice but to enact a fascist policy.

Unfortunately a liberal can't always enact a liberal policy, especially if

there aren't any liberal cards in the hand they get

. Which is what happened. As confirmed by drench.

And you still haven't explained your vote. You can't explain an event using a second event that happened after the first event. That doesn't even make any sense.

I already suspected this person of being a fascist but this post displays a remarkable lack of paranoia

[Cephrir]

i am leaning towards investigating lilith right now, mostly because since three fascist policies have been drawn, it's pretty likely there's gonna be at least one liberal one next time around. knowing if the president and thereby the president's veto power is liberal or not is therefore important. that's what i want to do. 8f 6l means more than likely there's gonna be one liberal card; 3f is only a 15% chance. we need a liberal president to avoid that one liberal card getting nixed before anyone else knows about it

you're not lilith and frankly your constant begging from day one despite repeatedly being told you're not getting what you want is definitely something that i've had to read

p-edit: step away from the computer. maybe breathe a bit

i am not sure i like this idea

[Cephrir]

I like shos for Chancellor, so unless Drench's investigation comes up negative, I'll support that.

shos is probably town but he's not particularly stable

[Cephrir]

Hi Kleeck <3

[Cephrir]

Why won't you vote me Aronis? You've never really given a reason why you didn't vote for me as chancellor.

this tbh?

[Cephrir]

I think Trow's probably town, he has convoluted thought processes and I mostly don't read them
shos is probably town, but he's nuts
Maybe Klick, idk

I suspect Aronis and JDGA of being fascists. Not a lilith fan either. And Drench I guess but only for math, not for play

[Cephrir]

yeah i'm agreeing with you.

[Cephrir]

it'd be nice to have investigation results before voting

[Cephrir]

reading comprehension is challenging.

[Cephrir]

Why do i doubt this statement is genuine?

i don't know?????

[Cephrir]

If you didn't notice Drench 'cleared' your scumread, what is this math you're talking about?

something something chance of fascist policies something

[Cephrir]

Yes, i seemed to have totally ignored 'if lilith is scum, then so is drench' when i pointed out cephrir stated the exact same thing, to later claim never having seen the investigation-result that made it so.

i don't think i ever stated that.

[Cephrir]

That doesn't make much sense either. 11/17 * 10/16 * 9/15 = somewhere around 25% chance of getting 3 fascist policies. Whereas there's a 11/17 * 10/16 * 6/15 = about 15% chance of getting 2 fascist cards and one liberal card. By jelly's info we confirm that there were at least 2 fascist cards so it's actually more likely that Drench had 3 fascist policies than 2 fascist and 1 liberal.

true

but

eh

[Cephrir]

No this math is not correct.
That is the chance Drench drew 2 fascist cards and THEN a liberal one.
If we take 'the liberal card could have been the first or the second' into consideration, we're talking about 45%
And then there is the 24% chance of 2 fascist cards in the draw (also implicating Jelly)

i'm embarrassed that i missed this.

[Cephrir]

@Cephrir:

Now that you know Drench's investigation on me came up liberal, who are your fascist-reads?

The same, only minus you for now

[Cephrir]

shos always plays terribly, it doesn't make him scum, just terrible

[Cephrir]

jdga is probably getting it from her fascist role pm

[Cephrir]

I had reasons to assume that government would install a fascist policy, i was proven right: any 'ja'-voter ready to backup their, now proven to be anti-town, vote?

rofl

[Cephrir]

i mean it's kind of mafia but please stop walling

[Cephrir]

your face is bad

cuz it looks like that of a lizard person

[Cephrir]

You could make shos chancellor again. Since he got two liberal policies we didn't actually learn anything.

[Cephrir]

I can go with Blackberry.

He's way too vocal and seemingly useless to be scum?

let me introduce you to blackberry.

[Cephrir]

Let me return with the second most ignored question in this game thusfar: any 'Ja' voters who would like to provide a motivation?

weren't you the one who defended a nein vote with the astounding defense of "they enacted a facist policy therefore i am right"

or is someone else not the brightest bulb in the room

[Cephrir]

asking someone to defend a ja vote is pretty silly i mean they are literally the default option

"cephrir, care to defend the fact that you are still breathing?" no im good

obviously the reason is that i didn't see any particular reason not to

[Cephrir]

I honestly just don't understand Trow's line of thoughts

I suggest making shorter sentences, for idiots like me, who can't follow your train

maybe then it'll help.

I can go with Blackberry.

He's way too vocal and seemingly useless to be scum?

let me introduce you to blackberry.

what I mean is BB repeatedly directed attention at himself with "investigate me" and ll that shit. I doubt any Fascist would do that, and I can definitely see a liberal doing that

i would be surprised if blackberry didn't do something off the wall like this as any alignment

[Cephrir]

Your insistence that those who are perfectly fine with giving up their task of trying to stop the fascists, should NOT be questioned, has been noted.(again)

yes that happened i did that

[Cephrir]

I think that Trow is probably town I just really don't care enough to pay attention to what he's trying to say and he's unbelievably bad at being concise.

The only thing you don't like about me is that I keep calling you a fascist.

That's not hypocritical. You can quickly read my posts and tell what the point of them is.

[Cephrir]

zzzzzz

[Cephrir]

Though, that's nothing compared to Ceph: who
- refuses to read
- refuses to have reads
- doesn't want readable stuff to exist
- considers, just wait and let the fascists win, the default approach to this game
- is fine with creating (even more) apathy, in this game

what's truly impressive is that not one of these posts says or does what you represent it as saying or doing

[Cephrir]

There is a distinct difference between:
- 'pushing for activity on P1, because then we'll have some workable content by p8'
and
- 'pushing for activity on P1, while firmly of the belief nothing before 'arbitrary game event X' can ever matter and actively hindering situation 1, by pointing this out on P4'
shos did the latter.

you could really stand to get over this.

[Cephrir]

the reasons i'm not really posting are
a) i'm having difficulty caring
b) I don't think we're going to accomplish much of anything until we get a nomination here

[Cephrir]

maybe trow is actually just tryhard scum, he sure is fond of his misreps

but then again i think that's how i got him mislynched in that one game like six years ago

[Cephrir]

I'll

ja

that, better than the alternatives we'll get.

There is a distinct difference between:
- 'pushing for activity on P1, because then we'll have some workable content by p8'
and
- 'pushing for activity on P1, while firmly of the belief nothing before 'arbitrary game event X' can ever matter and actively hindering situation 1, by pointing this out on P4'
shos did the latter.

you could really stand to get over this.

"oops my buddy scumslipped can you please stop telling everyone and maybe forgive him??"

[Cephrir]

You really like writing words don't you

Sorry, i thought: " I mostly don't read them", means you mostly don't read them(posts, that is)

No, just yours, because they are long, convoluted and boring

Now we're on the subject of posts like 'a JA vote doesn't need defending' (it IS the default, one needs a very good reason to provide 'usefull vote data')

When I said it was the default I was not referring to the game mechanic, I feel that you should vote for it unless you have a good reason not to

this isn't mafia and i don't want to spend two weeks running in circles with no information over reads someone got on page 1

[Cephrir]

Now that we have reached 'arbitrary game state' nomination #3, anything you want to bring to the table?

nope!

[Cephrir]

Interesting comparison.
I remember that one, (had forgotten you were in it though)
I replaced in late D1, correctly pinned your slot as scum D2, later you replaced in, insisted early-tells were bullshit, read only half of posts and got a perfect scum-win out of it.

And here you're playing the exact same tactic.

Wow, that actually was a useful analog to this game. (why did you bring it up?)

a) i brought it up because i am town, and therefore lack a filter and also didn't bother to reread it before posting what i thought
b) i am pretty sure i actually read all posts in that game except the ones made by my extremely long winded scumbuddy, if i claimed otherwise i was probably lying
c) i only argued that those early points were bad because they were made against my own slot
d) i am not playing the exact same tactic of trying to get you lynched by pointing out your misreps and inconsistencies, you may not have noticed but i don't actually suspect you, your posts just annoy me

[Cephrir]

do you have a pathological need to exchange walls

i have so little interest in this

[Cephrir]

yeah no i don't care, suspect me if you want buddy but i can't be bothered to continue this

[Cephrir]

I'm sure the fascists realize there isn't much point in being contrary

[Cephrir]

yes trow i am a fascist you caught me good job

you get a gold star

[Cephrir]

(you can stop catching me again in every post you make, as your elite scumhunting skills have long since put me away)

[Cephrir]

if you want a real answer i voted yes because i think klick is town and trust his judgment

[Cephrir]

what doesn't?

if i seem more apathetic than normal it's because i want to leave the site and this is kind of holding me here even though i don't care about it

so there's a pretty reasonable chance i will quit

[Cephrir]

you just think i'm scum because i can't be bothered to do your stupid song and dance

[Cephrir]

please don't make a long post with a bunch of links in response to that, i won't read it

[Cephrir]

[Cephrir]

I am convinced Hitler is either Aronis or Jelly.

hitler seems like a needlessly specific allegation

[Cephrir]

Aww. *sniff*

[Cephrir]

a million nein votes are not going to solve anything

this is fine

[Cephrir]

Sorry for being derelict in my duty, here is some noise



-Benito M.

[Cephrir]

to a fascist all days are basically the same

every day, the trains run on time. that's all i know.

[Cephrir]

all hail the fastics

[Cephrir]

im not upset this died

[Cephrir]

obv

i was too

[Cephrir]

in before trow hitler

also jdga is still scum you heard it here

[Cephrir]

im choosing not to be rude

[Cephrir]

a) stalking is rude
b) sorry if the facts of my life seem off to you but those things are both true

[Cephrir]

he was too town

[Cephrir]

i wish i could remove threads from my egosearch