Micro 906 | Dayvig Deactivators | Game Over!

[Eve]

so the most suspicious person should use the dayvig shot

this quite interesting. do we shoot today or tomorrow?

[Eve]

oh I guess it has to be today because if we mislynch today the game is over

[Eve]

I searched up FDSE's name and got "Fluid Dynamics of Sustainability and the Environment"

although that sounds cool I think you should be attending to your Green Party stuff instead of playing mafia VOTE: FDSE L-1

[Eve]

I also suggest that we do not use the day vigilante kill until we are close to deadline. It will give us more time to talk.

honestly the deadline doesn't seem like a lot of time to discuss a shot and a lynch so we should all start hyperposting soon

i'll start us off with a controversial topic:
amrun is obviously town

[Eve]

UNVOTE: FDSE

[Eve]

wait a second isn't this MyLo so if town is ever on L-1 scum can quickhammer and then kill in the night to win?

i would suggest relaxing with votes in that case

[Eve]

you said inccorect but it sounds like you're agreeing with me on the MyLo thing

basically if you gem amrun are town and radiant and alimdia are scum we lose here

[Eve]

and i did read the rules but missed the part about the deadline getting reset that's a lot more managable

[Eve]

Amrun being the first person to post and like you said godfather doesn't want attention early on

exaggerated on the obvious part though

[Eve]

Within a group of six people, the simple majority is four. In this game, that group of six people is split up with four town, and two mafia. If you have two townies vote a third townie, the two mafia can simply vote the third townie, and hammer them. L-2 should be treated as L-1 in this game.

yes that's exactly my point and you are on L-2 right now

[Eve]

If RC and Alimdia are both mafia, and we shoot one of them, we have a fifty percent chance of automatically winning. In this case, the scummiest should shoot one of them, (I have made my mind up on scummiest/towniest shooting), and then we should have a second player submit a kill on them as well.

For example, let us say we want Alimdia to kill RC, someone else, (for sake of example me), should submit to kill Alimdia. If Alimdia is actually town, the action will go through and my kill will fail; however, if Alimdia is not town, my action will go through.

don't think i completely understand your logic here - so you're proposing the scummiest person should shoot the second scummiest person correct? and if they can't shoot because they're not a dayvig we have the second scummiest person shoot them?

[Eve]

I do not know why, but I have had this sneaking suspicion that Alimdia is the godfather for some reason.

but he literally hasn't posted yet

how is he any scummier than Radiant who also hasn't posted?

[Eve]

Btw my RVS on you was because I like early wagons though I realise in a small game like this 2 wagons of 2 are better than 1 wagon of 3 disregarding the mylo factor obviously

Good unvote, yet it still seems scummy.

Why do you call my unvote scummy here?

[Eve]

Might as well throw a vote down VOTE: Radiant

[Eve]

Nice artwork btw mod

[Eve]

I concede on that point; however, if I am scum, why would I propose to have the double shot? Much less call out the godfather as one of the non-posters?

I don't like this post - going on the defensive when Radiant wasn't even scumreading him and this is a bad reason to call yourself town

[Eve]

If I were scum my game plan here would be to loudly post about how I and only I am good enough to have the dayvig and antagonize everyone else until someone takes a dayvig shot and then claim myself cleared because I was clearly trying to get the shot a la Albert b rampage

I really don't think words around the dayvig mean anything.

I agree if I see people threatening people with a shot and loudly talking about it - I'm not just gonna assume they're town though haha

[Eve]

I've considered just lolvigging to ensure I live D1 and my reads can be trusted but I'd at least like to shoot someone I think is gonna flip scum

I don't think anyone should do this - we should be very democratic with who shoots who and treat it like a vote

[Eve]

Dayvig needs to be reserved for when we are lynching someone. We need to have 3 lynch targets, one to put to l1 and force shoot the second target, and then we can lynch the third target if both of them turn out to be town. We follow that logic and no one derails and we have a pretty high chance or winning.

yeah but we don't put the first target on L-1 because scum can win if they just quickhammer

[Eve]

Official Vote Count 1.03

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Lynching

With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch. Dayvigs are

Activated

Fdse

(2): Dongempire, Amrun

Eve

(1): Fdse

RadiantCowbells

(1): Eve

Not Voting

(2): alimdia, RadiantCowbells

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-11 11:59:48).

This was generated by Thesp's VC

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This means Alimidia and Radiant aren't the scum team because they were both online before and after this VC and didn't hammer FDSE

UNVOTE: Radiant

[Eve]

I think the most 'town looking' person should shot.
Discuss

Definitely not why would that help us?

We can treat the shot as aa cop check on the shooter and the person getting shot so we want to check suspicious people

[Eve]

I do not know why, but I have had this sneaking suspicion that Alimdia is the godfather for some reason.

but he literally hasn't posted yet

how is he any scummier than Radiant who also hasn't posted?

Btw my RVS on you was because I like early wagons though I realise in a small game like this 2 wagons of 2 are better than 1 wagon of 3 disregarding the mylo factor obviously

Good unvote, yet it still seems scummy.

Why do you call my unvote scummy here?

Mind answering these FDSE?

[Eve]

I like Radiant and Gem so far
Amrun and Almidia are in the middle
I don't like FDSE

[Eve]

Oh you are

[Eve]

I think gem is a better name than dong

[Eve]

Dragem? Even better

Did everyone stop posting because they suddenly got scared of all the vigilantes in town? I can assure you, I'm not one, so don't be afraid to talk to me

[Eve]

Oh you responded to me FDSE

cool responses, pleasure doing conversation with you but this line of questioning turned out to be a dead end

do you mind saying something a little more scummy so we can talk about that instead?

Actually can you elaborate more on your gut scumread on my unvote? I realised scum would quickhammer if you were town which is why I unvoted so considering that, how is it scummy to unvote there if I realised that?

[Eve]

Although Alimdia could certainly replace Fsde's slot, I just moreso feel like Amrun is the godfather and the way that Fsde decided that everyone who has posted wasn't godfather makes me think he's the buddy

Do you think FDSE would be so transparent like that? Maybe but looks bad for him and Amrun if we ever think he's scummy

[Eve]

I would like to have as much time as possible to scumhunt with the added information for the Lynch as opposed to getting two flips and having to speedvote someone

Can we all agree to have Amrun shoot if she's town and I'll vig her if she doesn't at 3 days on deadline?

You shouldn't be the one vigging her Radiant - FDSE or Alimdia should if we do decide on her

[Eve]

Radiant's convincing me on amrun being scum

FDSE has a overly formal tone but I don't think he's scum for it - just a playstyle thing

Gem could you explain your FDSE scumread please? Radiant's probably town with how much he's been game solving and how much he keeps naturally changing his mind/progressing his reads

Alimdia I get scummy vibes from but i think that's for biased reasons

[Eve]

Did you have a micro nap and fall on your keyboard or soemthing there?

Yeah his absencse is noted we need more data

I'l go back and remind myself of your questions to him

[Eve]

Hmm mind outlining any reasons you have for thinking he's scum?

Is it solely for the Godfather not posting early thing or does it involve the proposing a plan (similataneous shooting) that doesn't really work?

[Eve]

First I admit my posting has been pretty crap recently. I do apologise

Reading Amrun's posts, they just talking mechanical stuff, and admits that they just wanna shoot fdse for not that relevant reasons


Dongempire calls out a bunch of Fdse's 'town cred posts'. I think dong's pretty town here.
Also.. If a scum is getting townread that never gets sorted out.
Interesting that dong wants to shoot me.
Can you explain your townread on Amrun?

Fdse keeps saying "If I was scum, why would I do this ____" , "If I was the godfather, why would I do that".
brah

@eve, your post #149, what biased reasons?

The thing is I kinda TR Eve and RadiantCowbells, but this setup promotes people trying to do town credit things heaps so they would
end up on top of the 'town' chain, and thus don't have to shoot to 'prove' themselves. This was why I proposed having the towniest person
to shoot initially.

That being said, I'm happy with confirming myself at 3 days to the deadline

You're making it sound like scum can act very towny if they want to and not have to shoot but that's easier said than done

Scum are trying to act towny basically every game I don't really understand your logic here

Can't talk about the biased thing

[Eve]

My cat attacked my phone so i had to look at her in the eye a bit until she went away

I will be on pc in a few hours, do you mind if i post it then? Easier to organize

nice asserting dominance

how's the organisation going?

[Eve]

Like I think there's a case for me specifically shooting because I'm me and I'm scary as scum and more likely to shoot scum than anyone else but I don't think that extends to any other townreads.

self-meta? tut tut

at least it's not you saying "i definitely wouldn't do this as scum" - i've seen so many people post like that recently

[Eve]

Yeah but if we say towniness person shoot you might suddenly see them panic

i don't like alimdia after this

so you've disregarded your previous opinion where you thought it was easy for scum to do towny things which is why we should make townreads shoot?

[Eve]

I definitely wouldn't post the post that I am currently posting as scum

ok i believe you

i definitely wouldn't believe you if i was scum

[Eve]

I mean, wanting to shoot me is a poor play on your part. I have somewhat weak reads so far. Eve I think is town. You’re probably town. Fdse I think is scum, probably not scum with alimdah though. Maybe with dong.

do you mind giving some reasons/specifics for these reads

you haven't really given much so far

[Eve]

I'm shooting FSDE in... 14 hours.

If you're town FDSE, your only logical option is to shoot me in self defence before that.

or someone else you think is scum :think:

i have a good feeling about FDSE's shot

the above feels like scum-alimdia giving town-FDSE a chance to shoot someone else first because alimdia knows he can't shoot anyone

[Eve]

I mean, wanting to shoot me is a poor play on your part. I have somewhat weak reads so far. Eve I think is town. You’re probably town. Fdse I think is scum, probably not scum with alimdah though. Maybe with dong.

do you mind giving some reasons/specifics for these reads

you haven't really given much so far

Fdse and alimdah’s strategies are diametrically opposite. He goes as far as to say it is scummy. I just don’t see this being a partner interaction, him framing everything his partner is going to eventually do as being a scum course of action.

However, the fact that he doesn’t seem to be connecting the dots and strongly scumreading her is scum points to him for me.

that's interesting but i was more wondering for your reasons for things like scumreading FDSE or townreading Radiant/me

[Eve]

Ok.

Dayvig Alimdia

In case Oka does not recognize execute as me trying to shoot Alimdia.

bring out yer dead

[Eve]

Oh no

i definitely am leaning towards Amrun and Gem now - Radiant is probably still town

and yes if Amrun flipped godfather it would make Radiant very likely town

i think Amrun is definitely one of them and has a slight chance with Radiant only if Amrun is normal scum - and i don't think it's Radiant and Gem

[Eve]

Radiant has just been gamesolving so much more than the other two possible people

i'm happy to lynch Amrun here but if Radiant and Gem are both scum, this is an amazing play where they set this up so that Radiant can justify lynching Amrun

probably not though

[Eve]

Fdse so scum.

I call him out for not taking a strong stance on alimdah, and he vigs him.

Amrum, I am mechanically confirmed to be town now. The shot would have gone to them regardless. They were the scummiest player, ignoring myself. With them dead, and me being a mechanical IC, we have a solid pool of suspects with no real lynchbait. I will re-read the game after my exam and DnD today. That should be around 7 or 8 PM EST.

Lmao this is true. I forgot this setup aspect because I am puking my head off and out of it. If I didn’t post that here, let me reiterate: I’m as sick as a dog. Clearly I should take a break from trying to follow along anyway.

this is interesting

did town-Amrun forget that scum aren't vigilantes?

or is she just faking and making this look like she's a vig?

[Eve]

Perhaps we should take a poll of who should do the shot: scumread vs townread. There seems to not be consensus.

I vote scumread, then if shot fails, #2 scumread shoots.

she seemed to understand how it worked here

[Eve]

Since this is going to be a tooth and nail battle, im just going to go with my gut townread and consider eve conftown. I suggest you do NOT do that back. I want unique reads from everyone here.

why are you suggesting that? why would i consider you conftown?

[Eve]

Please don’t take that as AI. I’m just really ill and had a dumb moment.

well if you're scum you're way less likely to forget that because you'd know your own role so if it's truthful it definitely is alignment indicative i think

question is whether it's truthful

[Eve]

yeah fine let's lynch Gem instead

I don't like how he said I shouldn't treat him as conftown and how he kept putting off cases

who do you think is scum now Amrun?

[Eve]

Well played Radiant... i was slightly paranoid i was being buddied but you were solving so much more then everyone else and it actually felt genuine too

FDSE there's no guarantee it would've changed anything but still think your vote was very premature - maybe Gem could've come back with an amazing speech or something