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[Plotinus]

vote plotinus

For using last game's room pool

Fixed, thanks for pointing it out! --P

[SirCakez]

lot of weebs in this game...

[SirCakez]

I hope Alisae plays this game

[SirCakez]

Last game we worried about pocketing in the hoods and it ended up not really happening

[SirCakez]

hopefully I just find a scum in the first ten pages and tunnel them to a lynch day 1 like last time!

[SirCakez]

get a room: shiki, farkran, keiji and sara

I don't see a downside to this
I wonder if Alisae will try to mislynch me here again

[SirCakez]

No Fark you can only vote for one room at a time until one is hammered

[SirCakez]

I'm... a bit lost, this is the first time i am alive in so many games at once.

I can help you fix this!

VOTE: fark

[SirCakez]

I'm getting all the anime names mixed up

[SirCakez]

Anime avatar is close enough!

[SirCakez]

This on the other hand, doesn't seem like a concern that town would have.

Karnage, why is shiki wrong in creating rooms quickly?

maybe I'm crazy but

shouldn't you wait until you have reasons to town read them before getting a room

?

why?

[SirCakez]

I hope Alisae plays this game

this statement is pretty scummy. it can't be properly addressed at face value and it subtly shades the keiji and sara slot (by implying alisae sometimes does not play games e joins) while masquerading as a positive statement (i hope alisae plays... because i enjoy eir presence).

I want to play with Alisae because I know e doesn't often and sometimes in hydras e takes the back seat and last game e was scum.
And Alisae is one of the most popular and known players on the site so to imply that somehow I can reduce that reputation with a one-liner is silly.

[SirCakez]

Wdym what is this from?

[SirCakez]

Ahhh I shouldn't have brought this up
It's ongoing

[SirCakez]

For future
You’re better off just pretending ongoing games just don’t exist.

Yeah I know I just wasn't thinking at the time I made that post. Dumb of me.
W/e let's move on

[SirCakez]

K who are you and have I played with you before?

[SirCakez]

OHHHHH
hi Kanna! <3 <3
I thought that was an alias in the BB hydra

[SirCakez]

Eve I'm voting for a different room that's also been requested :/

[SirCakez]

get a room: eve, shiki, ame, aaronfrost/zote the mighty

Here for the save

[SirCakez]

My one thing in the rooms involving me is I don't actually like talking in hoods that much. I tend to just dump all my cards in the main thread.
Fark seems pretty early to declare that townbloc no?

[SirCakez]

What do you mean?

[SirCakez]

What do you mean?

I just don't like the interaction I had with him so far and it may be clouding my judgement regarding his slot. The emotional part of me WANTS him to scum if that makes sense and I'm trying to remain rational.

Gotcha.

Fark seems pretty early to declare that townbloc no?

Why?

Almost everything posted so far reads NAI to me. All of the room stuff.

[SirCakez]

Why did you support my question to karnage then? How do you read karnage right now?

Because I was trying to ferret out his motivations.
Town lean because this weird opposition doesn't seem like the move for scum here. Drawing a lot of attention.

[SirCakez]

Ehh I don't think that's what really got Suji caught.

[SirCakez]

Why did you support my question to karnage then? How do you read karnage right now?

Because I was trying to ferret out his motivations.
Town lean because this weird opposition doesn't seem like the move for scum here. Drawing a lot of attention.

What do you mean by weird opposition here?

~k

The desire not to go for rooms immediately

[SirCakez]

“Your posts were just not engaging the game outside of mechanics thus fluffy.” ~cakez scumhunting inHungarian 1

What do you think about this? Does this reasoning still apply?

~k

I don't think so because this game opened differently

[SirCakez]

And that's why I said it was my thing

[SirCakez]

I did they stink

[SirCakez]

Everyone is immediately diving into rooms so I don't think focusing on it is AI
Last game there was more discussion over how to use them. It seems the only dissenter here is Karnage.
Ofc if we keep going and people don't move on then it will be scummy.

[SirCakez]

I do think you have the right mindset with this PR but I think if you make everyone abide by that PR, you're going to make a lot of people have not a lot of fun. PRs aren't for everyone. People have playstyles and I understand you want to make people "play better" trust me, I've been too. But if you want people to play better, you can't force them to do that. They just won't have fun.

Agreed
It would be obnoxious

[SirCakez]

Get a room: AaronFrost/Zote the Mighty, Baezu, Karnage, SirCakez

Sure

[SirCakez]

VOTE: zote
For reasons

[SirCakez]

you guys better not hammer the dessert PR

[SirCakez]

bah

[SirCakez]

Plot was this what you were anticipating when you came up with the PRs mechanic?

[SirCakez]

One thing I noticed about that Farkran fool looking back

In 225 he questions me for townreading Eve saying that she hasn't been very productive, yet in 187, he puts SirCakez in his townbloc, who I would argue was less productive than Eve had been up until that point.

Do you still townread shiki and cakez fool?

Interesting thoughts

[SirCakez]

VOTE: fark
I dislike his response to Alisae's case and I agree with the facts of the case itself. The townbloc thing really irked me.
I was going to vote here earlier but didn't want to hammer. I can now that some people unvoted.

Also my favorite pie is key lime!

[SirCakez]

Oh Farkran where art thou?

[SirCakez]

I've been commanded to vote Baezu and I don't really have a reason to fight against it so
VOTE: Baezu
L-1

my SR on Fark still stands

[SirCakez]

well this game is moving quickly

[SirCakez]

If this flips town I agree with Eve that Keiji and Sara is off

[SirCakez]

VOTE: eve
Would also vote Fark

[Plotinus]

vote for PR Eve cannot propose any PRs

I think he would yeah

post restrictions

It takes 2n or 4 votes for a post restriction, whichever is smaller

Eve may not propose any post restrictions

(2): Ame, SirCakez

<-- RESTRICTION

Not voting

(5) : Farkran, AaronFrost, Eve, shiki, Karnage

Active post restrictions:
Eve may not propose any post restrictions (expires night 2)

[SirCakez]

I read that K/S would not be bodyguarding in the hood

[SirCakez]

We have claims that all of {KaS} protected Ame.

???

[SirCakez]

Why is a K/S direct kill not possible

[SirCakez]

-Farkran unlikely scum. Two players had voiced suspicion of KaS right before the end of the night upon a Bae town flip. Scum Fark could have used this momentum to push for a KaS lynch. Furthermore, killing KaS just seems too direct.

You're begging WIFOM here

[SirCakez]

There's a shitload of WIFOM in the nightkill because we don't know if Ame or K/S was attacked

[SirCakez]

because I have more going on and there's less players and I basically don't know anyone here
and this mechanic is tricky

[SirCakez]

@eve/sircakez did keiji and sara give any final reads? do you agree with farkran that no other than farkran had reason to directly target keiji and sara?

Not really
Keiji and I agreed Eve's hammer was scummy but Alisae though it wasn't

[SirCakez]

I'm content with my vote on Eve
no reason to believe that hammer was town

[SirCakez]

If by lazy you mean less wordy than Fark and co then yeah
I'm just not invested into the "solving the rooms/NK" game

[SirCakez]

You know why your hammer was bad - we weren't close to deadline or really a real consensus on Baezu. It looks like scum opportunism.
This just looks like OMGUS

[SirCakez]

I had hope at the time that Baezu was scum
I reconsidered when Keiji mentioned it yeah

[SirCakez]

You had no suspicion of me until I started pushing you Eve
Just as random

[SirCakez]

Also Eve using doubles mafia as a tone comparison for this game is ridiculous because Doubles was filled with screaming matches, toxicity and people tunneling me, and was way more active. I was under a lot more pressure there.
This game is nothing in comparison

[SirCakez]

I don't have data to support this but in my experience I think most "lol hammers" have come from town

If you don't have data how do you have experience to confirm this?

[SirCakez]

WE MEET AGAIN!!!!!

[SirCakez]

Ehh I don't think that's what really got Suji caught.

Can you expand on what got Suji caught in that case and why Karnage is different enough to not arouse suspicious from you doing similar play?

Talked about this already

He wasn't? Ali had lurked it out in other hydra games, it was a comment about he wishing that it doesn't happen again, I feel.

Regardless of his alignment, I don't feel that post has anything to do with it. It's a personal feeling.

at the time, alisae was lurking in an ongoing game as a hydra. him drawing attention to this that cannot be responded to is scummy.

How are you still going on about this? I wanted to play with Alisae in a game where e wasn't lurking and e didn't this game. Doubles Mafia e lurked HARD so I think my statement was correct.

I've been commanded to vote Baezu and I don't really have a reason to fight against it so
VOTE: Baezu
L-1

my SR on Fark still stands

who commanded you.

Alisae in the hood

Churros talk to me about the Eve hammer.

[SirCakez]

The hammer is kinda, something I see town!Eve doing but still makes me shake my head and say she should stop with that kind of thing.

It's more that...I'm ok with her other posts

Idk, I'm not that confident on my reads, there's too much fluff here and too little game in day 1.

Her wagon seems a bit scum motivated as well, like Baezu, easy mislynches?

I mean it's just Fark and I
Is Eve really an easy mislynch?

[SirCakez]

Do tell

[SirCakez]

I buy it. Thanks Churros.
VOTE: Fark
Let's go back here then

[SirCakez]

Eve did say in our PT she would be guarding Zote

[SirCakez]

Fark has just been all over the place, just looking at his ISO
I feel like he didn't progress at all from the Baezu and K/S flips which is really off considering they were his two main SRs day 1

[SirCakez]

Churros!

i said i was protecting Zote as a joke it was in response to Cakez "wifoming" about who he was protecting

it didn't seem like a joke to me ftr

Fark has just been all over the place, just looking at his ISO
I feel like he didn't progress at all from the Baezu and K/S flips which is really off considering they were his two main SRs day 1

>I have two SRs
>I kill them both

Is this what you find scummy about me?

no your reads didn't develop at all from your two SRs flipping town
you just went "welp they were town" and picked someone else to push
and you've already given up it feels like

Churros what do you think about Shiki/Fark team?

[SirCakez]

They would have to open the thread by wanting a hood with only one townie on it (KaS)

so weird if that's the case

I mean that's not that weird
K/S was a strong hydra so hooding with them early to pick their brain would make sense

[SirCakez]

You didn't kill Baezu?
And we don't know scum tried to kill K/S

[SirCakez]

You didn't kill Baezu?
And we don't know scum tried to kill K/S

I voted baezu

And yeah, so you're assuming i targeted ame. Why am i more suspicious than eve or shiki, who didn't die? The setup rules state that if multiple bodyguards protect a target, one dies at random, but the coincidence is there.

Scum also have the ability to roleblock two targets (multitasking). Are you assuming they blocked Eve?

You said it yourself it's random
So yeah Ame could have been attacked???

[SirCakez]

not really interested in Karnage wagon

[SirCakez]

don't let Fark wiggle his way out of this Churros
he needs to flip today no matter what

[SirCakez]

Fark since you've given up who is scum with Eve?

[SirCakez]

why not just share in the main thread if you're gonna die??

[SirCakez]

In fact it's scummy from Cakez to see the hammer as scummy when she literally did it on Doubles Mafia, in an even worse fashion I might say.

People barely had began to vote Titus and she hammered it.

ehh I considered that and I felt the gamestate was much different there
people were utterly exhausted and just wanted flips (myself included) so I excused that hammer

Why Karnage before Fark Churros?

[SirCakez]

so waffly
pick a side!

[SirCakez]

I'll tunnel you
Don't make me do it

[SirCakez]

Cakez my 622 wasn't rhetorical.

I missed 622.
I did see Churros' earlier post but I forgot about it.

I can do Karnage as compromise but Fark continues to bother me. It looks like he pivoted to me because it offers him an out and his Eve push wasn't working.

[SirCakez]

alisae scumread him for the way he supported the farkran wagon day one in their neighbourhood,

?

[SirCakez]

can you elaborate?
I wasn't aware of this

[SirCakez]

Ok that just baffles me because Alisae wasn't acting that way in our room at all
But I don't know how or why you'd lie about it

[SirCakez]

Karnage pick a side and vote

[SirCakez]

I like Churros' theory

[SirCakez]

So this is a total mess
I'm guessing it's Karnage + Ame?
Did AF replace Churros?

[SirCakez]

so a quick ISO says a straight Shiki kill points to Churros, Eve and myself
hmm

[SirCakez]

Yeah I'm ready to lynch Karnage as well
I did not guard anyone ftr

[SirCakez]

any scum in this game would be bussing Karnage here..

[SirCakez]

i did

[SirCakez]

I just don't understand the Shiki kill
scum could have easily left Shiki alive and I + them would have been enough for them to win LyLo

[SirCakez]

I'm down to Karnage from POE. I TR everyone else more strongly. He has never been particularly townie to me I just had stronger SRs elsewhere.

[SirCakez]

Scum played really well I don't think this is any one person's fault really. Town was just outplayed.

[SirCakez]

I agree for all PTs to be released

[SirCakez]

mafia burnout is real
I took a ~year long break and am back into it now!