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Post #5 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:21 am
Postby votato »
first
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #6 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:25 am
Postby votato »
who wanna be my lover?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #38 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:08 pm
Postby votato »
im the cop btw
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #42 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:17 pm
Postby votato »
who else is getting on the "sheep votato" train?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #43 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:17 pm
Postby votato »
In post 41, HoldenGolden wrote:Follow the cop is a weak strategy. It never works at all. That's why they changed the newbie setup years ago so cops can't be followed.
Plus I CC: I'm a lover watcher. Nobody is allowed to make love without me watching. There can be only room for one invest role in this town. UNVOTE: VOTE: votato
isnt that more of a voyeur?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #46 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:22 pm
Postby votato »
hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.
i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #49 (isolation #7) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm
Postby votato »
In post 47, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I agree with Votey. (Trying a nickname how does it feel? I kind of instantly hate.) He is one smart and sexy unicorn.
hawt. nicknames are fine, but that one just sounds like im full of votes. vode, vovo, vo, tater, tato, my love, etc all work tho. if you're sold on votey i will try to learn to respond to it i guess. im not that picky. Some people call me Taylor (as in Taylor Swift). Dunno if that helps though.
Personally I think massclaiming on day 2 is more gimmicky than on day 1.
i did read it. what makes the day 2 massclaim gimmicky?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #54 (isolation #8) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:43 pm
Postby votato »
what exactly is the useful info that we want to have on day 1 that we get from a massclaim?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #58 (isolation #9) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:47 pm
Postby votato »
i think thats my post 46 that he quoted... hmmm
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #60 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:59 pm
Postby votato »
eh i thats only true if we mislynch today, which is SOP for day 1. but i guess in this case even the most incompetent town can hit scum by accident. which is good considering im a part of it.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #63 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:05 pm
Postby votato »
well i do love to claim scum
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #65 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:16 pm
Postby votato »
its not that bad. it just isnt that good. and i think the cons outweigh the pros. but i dont think its that big a deal?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #67 (isolation #13) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:25 pm
Postby votato »
i like to do both
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #70 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:32 pm
Postby votato »
In post 68, Doctor Drew wrote:Well there is great scum equity in a vote for Sleeper/votato.
could you elaborate a little on why?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #77 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:49 pm
Postby votato »
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #79 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:54 pm
Postby votato »
can we at least negotiate now?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #81 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:56 pm
Postby votato »
DM sent
but like for realsies, could you explain your scumreads?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #83 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:01 pm
Postby votato »
and to be clear, there's nothing other than what is already in your iso?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #87 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:15 pm
Postby votato »
In post 84, Doctor Drew wrote:I clearly don't have a cop guilty on either of you, what kind of question is that?
i just mean theres nothing else that you havent yet posted?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
votato is in the mindset for getting a mislynch today, which is why he thinks scum will know all the pairs tomorrow. If he's town, he would consider what happens the other 50% of the time when scum is lynched - which he should be aiming for.
i dont think this is the scumslip you're looking for. you're assuming a random lynch. is scum just refuses to bus, 5/6 townies all have to agree on a scum lynch, including 1 townie to self-vote. a mislynch is all but assured today. the game gets interesting tomorrow.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 84, Doctor Drew wrote:I clearly don't have a cop guilty on either of you, what kind of question is that?
i just mean theres nothing else that you havent yet posted?
Outside of hacking the mod and getting his list of roles for this game.......I have no idea what you are getting on about.
i mean you've posted the full extent of your reads? cuz you havent really said much
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 9, SleeperSoul wrote:Hey guys, it's my second game! First game is still ongoing in day 1.
My goal this game is to try not to do anything too stupid on day 1.
Hey thanks for that scum slip.
VOTE: SleeperSoul
so this is the only post where you give any reason to scumread sleeper. and i feel like claiming noob is a noobtell more than a scumslip. i did the same thing as a newbie. I was already planning to call you out for the way you were pushing so hard at sleeper for this, but then sleeper said we're lovers and now you're coming at me too. You're pushing at two people who cannot possibly both be scum, and your only reason is a "slip" for each of us. how often do scumslips of this kind actually come from scum? VOTE: drew. you're pushing at LHF, and now that you know I'm lovers with sleeper you're fine with lynching either of us.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #109 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:07 am
Postby votato »
unrelated to the game, tuxedo and i are lovers
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #112 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:14 am
Postby votato »
In post 111, Raya36 wrote:Also I am obviously ok with massclaiming lovers
then claim your lover?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #117 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:22 am
Postby votato »
ok my early solve is {genghis, drew}. sleeper is 100% town, and so far both tux and holden are weak townreads.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #118 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:22 am
Postby votato »
In post 116, SleeperSoul wrote:Okay, well I only said "I'm not entirely opposed", it was mostly just lighthearted banter.
please keep the lighthearted banter in our PT. you know how jealous i get
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #122 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:30 am
Postby votato »
sleeper is my lover and i feel like by now i can read sleeper decently well. we stay up all night whispering sweet nothings, and have experience from outside this game too.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #124 (isolation #30) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:31 am
Postby votato »
In post 120, SleeperSoul wrote:I do buy that votato could read me like this. But I'm scratching my head at the solve.
I should probably get some rest though, I've been up all night and it's almost noon.
see? up all night together. the solve comes from genghis making the weird misquote thing and coordinating with drew. im pretty sure my iso lays that out already. it certainly lays out all my thoughts on drew.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 116, SleeperSoul wrote:Okay, well I only said "I'm not entirely opposed", it was mostly just lighthearted banter.
Alright. Would you be willing to lynch yourself and votato?
would you be willing to lynch yourself and drew?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #130 (isolation #32) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:02 am
Postby votato »
i see my loverpair as pure, but it seems like thats a minority opinion. even among my loverpair.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
I don't like Khan's 50 (if I mislink, it's the one with the messed up quote) due to not understanding how the hell the quote was messed up that badly. However, I confess that isnt AI on it's own. What I think is scummy is that Khan prioritized pushing the slip without addressing the mess up quote at the same time drew begun to push.
In my eyes, I can see how scum!Khan did that to fuel drew suspicions of votato if drew is town. I dont really get the associated read yet, since I'm not sure why scum would go through the hoopla of faking a scumslip on someone yet made such a big blunder quote wise as well. I also don't buy it was coordinated over Drew's confusion that it was me with the slip.
you dont think its strange that they both start pushing the same person at the same time? drew is conveniently ignoring khan's quotegate
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #141 (isolation #34) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:49 am
Postby votato »
In post 137, HoldenGolden wrote:Votato, picture me and you as scum for a moment. You indicate to me that you want to coordinate a push onto a townie named KASLAM based off a frabicated scum slip. I say sure but then in the thread you post the slip on KASLAM yet its quoted by another player (or vice versa. KASLAM is quoted saying something he didnt).
Would you expect me to go through with it?
The whole execution of the slip logic is so sloppily done that I dont buy it was premeditated between them. Theres not enough there to support that narrative over others like scum!khan fueling town!drew for example.
i mean you're right but at the same time, the fabricated quote seems to pretty clearly come from some sort of scum gambit, and i have a hard time explaining it in any context. so you're right that the coordination story is strange given quotegate, but quotegate is strange in any context, and so i dont think the one can be used to disprove the other
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #148 (isolation #35) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:24 am
Postby votato »
...
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #150 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:00 am
Postby votato »
VOTE: khan
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #154 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:03 am
Postby votato »
im indifferent between drew and khan. i think they're both scum. i've already moved my vote to khan. its L-2 to be clear
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
Holder's post was quoted from my previous post somehow, and upon realising, I formatted the post to get rid of Holden's but managed to mess it up. How is this in any way scum-motivated?
by "his responses" you mean this one post? he is indignant, and then gives an explanation that i dont really understand. this one post was enough to persuade you?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 46, votato wrote:hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.
i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.
Am I missing something? How does scum know all the pairs D2 without us claiming?
Asking this again since I'm still confused
i dunno that i really have a better answer than the one i already gave... i take a lot of mental shortcuts and sometimes my brain skips steps and i wind up with whack-brained ideas.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
Let's play devil's advocate and say Pooky(Genghis) and I are scum buddies, why would I be obviously against his lynch? That would be a bonkers play, and borderline suicidal.
because if you refuse to bus and genghis' lover refuses to self-lynch, then the remainder of town requires unanimity to lynch, and thats a very tall order.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #607 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:19 pm
Postby votato »
In post 256, SleeperSoul wrote:I'm really bad at this. sorry votato, you deserve a better lover
No.... Bear looks scummy again. I trust you tux, you seemed to be defending Bear so that made him seem less scummy.
you are a fantastic lover. but i still cheat on you with tuxedo sometimes
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #608 (isolation #42) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:19 pm
Postby votato »
btw im catching up from page 10 now... wtf did you guys do today
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
that's 2 days too many - let's lynch drew and get it CRACKING
im pretty sure i said the same thing on the first of those three days, but im glad people are waking up now
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 282, Raya36 wrote:I'm not convinced drew is town at all. I hope its not my paranoia getting the best of me but the push on votato/sleeper just doesnt seem natural
Drew, even your lover thinks you're mafia.
I don't negotiate with terrorists. I just present my case. If you think it's weak, ignore it.
Kind of talked with Raya about it, I believe votato manipulated newb Sleeper into town reading him. Why would votato say this so early in the game? Wy would Sleeper think your Lover should automatically town read you?
Doesn't make sense.
And yes, technically
I am pushing for the mislynch
. Buti have said in here and in the Lovers PT, lots of scum equity here, and Sleeper has done a hell of a lot here to possibly be the scum between those lovers
did people already comment on this scumslip?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #611 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:35 pm
Postby votato »
In post 378, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:sleeper i'm afraid your buddy votato is probly scum since he won't lynch his scumbuddy drew with us
so tommorrow gonna have to ask you to make the ultimate sacrifice for us ok?
i absolutely will, but i can only change my vote when im here!
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #613 (isolation #46) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:52 pm
Postby votato »
In post 436, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:holden is such a donkey i can't bring myself to read his posts I like fall asleep when I'm about 4 words in
you dont realize what a compliment that is do you?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #614 (isolation #47) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:52 pm
Postby votato »
UNVOTE:
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
Sorry, the technical answer is no.... But maybe you were imagining one of our other lives together?
this would be very cringe if it werent so adorable
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 122, votato wrote:sleeper is my lover and i feel like by now i can read sleeper decently well. we stay up all night whispering sweet nothings, and have experience from outside this game too.
This was the post I was thinking of. I assumed outside game experience referred to an IRL relationship.
@Votato what are you talking about here?
@Sleeper if you know, you can answer as well.
another game onsite
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
In post 282, Raya36 wrote:I'm not convinced drew is town at all. I hope its not my paranoia getting the best of me but the push on votato/sleeper just doesnt seem natural
Drew, even your lover thinks you're mafia.
I don't negotiate with terrorists. I just present my case. If you think it's weak, ignore it.
Kind of talked with Raya about it, I believe votato manipulated newb Sleeper into town reading him. Why would votato say this so early in the game? Wy would Sleeper think your Lover should automatically town read you?
Doesn't make sense.
And yes, technically
I am pushing for the mislynch
. Buti have said in here and in the Lovers PT, lots of scum equity here, and Sleeper has done a hell of a lot here to possibly be the scum between those lovers
did people already comment on this scumslip?
yeah this is why im gonna
VOTE: drew over pooky
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #702 (isolation #52) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:45 am
Postby votato »
but like... we know that pooky is scum here, yes? scum that has given up and has accepted their lynch today? we need to reassess since im pretty confident in all four of the other players, but theres no way there isnt scum in {pooky, bugspray} right?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #705 (isolation #53) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:23 am
Postby votato »
maybe you're town but i dont think so. also, if you're town then bugspray is mafia. either way, VOTE: pooky
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #718 (isolation #54) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:38 am
Postby votato »
interesting that when it comes crunch time, you unvote and dont actually self-hammer, pooky. very interesting.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
I thought you guys were pure, but I don't like the way Votato/Sleepy both jumped on me so fast like that.
Holden told every1 to wait up and not put anyone at L-2 so scum can't quicklynch. Then as soon as he goes away for fathers day Votato/Sleepy decide to put me at L-1,
so it's VERY possible that Votato/Sleep has 1 scum manipulating 1 town to put me at L-1 so that their scumbuddy comes and quick-hammers.
Feels very coordinated
from town!you's PoV why would that implicate holdenmask? it wouldnt. that should implicate sleepertato and confirm that bugspray is scum yes?
i dunnno, to me that unvote is all the proof i need to know that pooky is scum
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #724 (isolation #56) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:41 am
Postby votato »
im willing to bet the game that pooky is scum
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #745 (isolation #57) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:07 am
Postby votato »
look at my avatar. is there any world where that avatar comes from scum?
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #746 (isolation #58) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:07 am
Postby votato »
when you've caught scum theres no reason not to lynch it.
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
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Post #747 (isolation #59) » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:08 am
Postby votato »
if everyone wills it i will self-vote tomorrow. but today we lynch pooky's pair
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
"I expect that 90% of what you say to me is one form of trickery or another" - a friend irl
"It is not our ignorance that will kill us, but our arrogance"
