micro 951 mystery box of silver gnine: well we're done here.

[hellbooks]

well I'm glad to see you all are having a good Time...., making posts...

adapting this logic for myself in order to VOTE: hellbooks.

HUH?????????????????? who?????????????????? Do we know each other? Or are you just a fan of my oeuvre. Either way fine

wait ep is in this game? this is a seriously awesome pl and i'm excited

Hush!!! keep it on the DL!!!!

anyone down to policy lynch alts

yes!!!
get my ass!!!

in my head i'm thinking "you're taking vague scumtells and applying them to rvs when they probably shouldn't be applied there"

i reload the page and see skitt's post saying exactly that

is it too early to start townreading skitter

-D

Feels like a weird buddying attempt

VOTE: nahdia more or less serious vote

this is a really towny post imo

/o/

really towny?
weird take Bro

update

u went back and explained this which makes me mediumly think it's like a genuine thought. yea. i can see it. i think a lot of scum player tend to like doing that though (saying something is a "serious vote" in early game) to get the gears going. ya. i got eyes on votato rn

ooh this'll be fun

Feels like a towny response.

anyway gotta dash. got a job interview.

Good luck.

what did you think of olorin's opening?

Oh oh put me in coach. i will state that it just makes sense to believe the claim unless like a concerning amount of time passes with it being unsubstantiated (the claim itself sort of feels like a promise that it will eventually be substantiated). Alignment wise, yeah. medium town equity I think.

yes; still don't think 50 is town indicative but ur long post is

In agreeance, assuming that the long post was the one where they went and responded to every page 1 post or something and was like "ope! people are voting me! whoa!" which just seems rather baldfaced for scum.

[hellbooks]

i feel like if olorin doesn't walk back the claim it's probably townie because taht's a p ~bold~ claim to make as scum (i.e. specifically the potential to become ic bit)

I call to veto the ic discussion unless we decide to lunch orionlotion

had the same thought but ehh.... dont mind discussing it

How do you normally come to your scum reads? The fact that skitt came out of your tet-a-tet with a bad taste towards you makes perfect sense to us. You latched on to a weak as hell low hanging fruit reason to vote us after a few people had naked voted us, so you as scum felt comfortable sliding into that 3rd voting slot and put us at l-2.

these posts were just like kind of unpleasant to read all around + the solve seems to be omgus based. doesn't really change my townread i think

[hellbooks]

k jeez sorry u dont want me to post i wont post

[hellbooks]

Oh by the way, scum is probably Hell and Nahd, youre welcome.

what happened to your shade campaign against wooper

[hellbooks]

Maybe 1/2 right, I have an idea about Wooper.

oh i see ok ill let u work on that if u want then

[hellbooks]

I suggest you read, works wonders helping you understand the game, but you should know that as an alt, cause youre not new right?

sounds like a good idea i'll try that

[hellbooks]

idk how i got through all these games w/o reading... my third eye hast been opened

[hellbooks]

Now to stop shitposting: i'd vote votato or VOTE: bugspray (the latter being a person tunnelling wooper for fluff?? but then also being non-contributive themselves) otoh bugspray has not a bad handle on the fact that wooper is seeming to rely on charm and is comfortable sitting back and just like having conversations, lean town because I think there are some concrete gamesolving tendencies from him

I still want to keep closely engaged with the fishy nahdia situation here despite going off on a vanity wagon For Fun. I guess one tinfoil hat scumpoint for nahdia is scum might feel the desire to platform previous scumgames of theirs to highlight some anti-meta tactic they're employing, I think a TvT is really quite plausible though, the if you're town you're bad thing just kind of seems like a general aggressive thing to be saying and not rly pointing in the direction of an alignment

skitter is like annoyingly baseline always towny somehow

[hellbooks]

would like to have content from hellbooks and hari on this blessed day 1

YA? what's up?

[hellbooks]

Btw, I read day 1 and was strongly townreading you and scumleaning Fishy.

i am like townreading both

I'm commuter with a knife and i apparently used incorrect phrasing when trying to give it to fishy logic so that's why you didn't get to stab anyone

yeah it's either a terrible lie or a terrible truth i'm inclined towards the former

Also, looks like Scum!Vota knew that Bugs wasnt making it out of the day alive already and is bussing, so we appreciate that!

real talk: kinda into this theory

UGH you should read my personal pt after this game and see that im 100% telling the truth about this knife thing and i basically only used it wrong. just be ready to be mad when you're stuck in lylo tomorrow

hate this kinda thing but unfortunately it kinda works on me that being said you did like, make two major mistakes

hell books was not posting like at all so might have just been lurking scum

i literally was and also you kind of cut it short there

I actually read bugspray's tone as town here. But the hammer and claim is leaving me at a loss.

i guess i'm about here

[hellbooks]

the knife thing sounds like an asspull

so the most sense i can make of the knife thing is that it is related to this (which was referenced by your opening post though later explained by you as having to do with a doctor, i believe):

no one will have a degree in psychology, though this does not stop them from practicing it.

since a psychologist in mafia terms is an investigative role that determines a players ability to kill,

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Psychologist

and the knife could possibly not grant the ability to kill but still return false positives? or possibly it is said to grant the ability to kill but someone practicing psychology investigating them would find that they actually could not?

the knife is a weird claim for bugspray to have wholly invented, but i don't know if it's town indicative.

i dont think that setup clues will be in the ruleset.
definitely would like something beyond setup spec from you

[hellbooks]

if bugspray ends up being town i'd be primarily sus of skitz and votato

[hellbooks]

Spoiler: response option 1

i'm an incredibly bland person

Spoiler: response option 2

how this for bland ALL OF THOSE POSTS ARE FUCKING GARBAGE AND YOU'RE CONFIRMED SCUM!!!

gladiate: votato

dayvig: votato

dayvig: bugspray

[hellbooks]

None of the claimed PRs seem to have any kind of water power. So is the claim a lie or a red herring?

i think there is 1 (one) strong compelling reason to believe it

I don't like skitter's leave of absence from this specific game and am not a fan of this post:

this was the same reason I was sus of skitter if bugspray is town -- it made me think that if we're barking up the wrong tree, scum would want to sit back and let us destroy ourselves

I'm also scumreading the hammer hard but think the tone is towny. But then I just don't really buy the claim yeah. The flavor is plausible but:
VOTE: bugspray

L-1

[hellbooks]

hope i didnt pull a bugspray and accidentally hammer ; )

[hellbooks]

i think there is 1 (one) strong compelling reason to believe it

Am I supposed to guess what you're thinking?

-F

i think there is 1 (one) strong compelling reason not to say it

[hellbooks]

fishy logic and hari are my top townreads
olorin is probably town / will hopefully will have some additional evidence towards their alignment via mechanics

Then schasd told me I didn't do it right and still have the knife so now I was h like fuck I'm gonna get

false positived

and flash nislynched which puts scum in a really good lylo better commute so that doesn't happen

so now the knife turns you into a miller too?

-D

yeah. that was bad -- almost comically so. +1 to everything Datisi is saying

Alright, so we're gonna lynch Bugs. What else does anyone want to talk about? Like literally anyone.

ideally we get skitter's replacement in here and post it up before we end it
i think there is important value in getting skitter slot posting before bug flips

if we are going to massclaim i'd like hellbooks to explain what her reason was beforehand, though i would like votato to explain what he thought hellbooks reason was first.

sure. fine with it. don't see a reason to massclaim today tho. like -- what dayplay is it informing

the question would be 'what do you think hellbooks was thinking there?' but there is no consensus on whether you should answer it now or not. i would like you to, fishy logic would like you to wait until hellbooks has explained.

this is like an extremely funny difference in opinion

[hellbooks]

olorin is probably town / will hopefully will have some additional evidence towards their alignment via mechanics

ehhhh well -- i mean maybe their Posts aren't particularly hugely towny + I believe the role itself but there's definitely a version of this role that is given to scum. again I'm simply hoping that it becomes easier to make a judgment on this with the passage of time

[hellbooks]

do you agree with olorin's logic regarding the probability of skitter's slot being partnered with bugspray?

i think skitter makes a more sense as scum if bugspray is town, i think it unlike scum to take a step back when their partner is under interrogation -- that's a losing move in micros

Are you guys waiting for ME or were you waiting for Skitter?

we're waiting for YOU! : )

Hi

hey

[hellbooks]

consider that i am instead setting up your slot to be townier when bug flips scum. huh ??? how about that???

[hellbooks]

i am a town pig where guilty people are not necessarily scum but innocent people are necessarily town
I had an innocent on fishy logic (you can deduce this from my Postings)
And a guilty on dunnstral from last night

[hellbooks]

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK UP?????

[hellbooks]

if you dont believe the claim we are free to no lynch and if i stay alive i can simply provide another investigation result. lol

[hellbooks]

Two scenarios seem most likely: fishy was the scum kill and dunn is a false positive
Or
hari killed fishy and dunn is fakeclaiming by pretending to have vigged the scum kill

[hellbooks]

honestly im here for this shitshow. Lmao

[hellbooks]

oh this is like so fun
let me have a lil think

[hellbooks]

hellbooks, how can Dunny be scum if there's two kills and he's the only person claiming to be a vig? If you're town, your role might be something like a gunsmith which is how it gets false guilties.

i was simply taking into account hari saying she might have killed Fishy Logic

to see if olorin would stick to a claim i strongly believed to be false or if he'd say something about my implication and also to more discreetly communicate to whoever did give me the ability that i received it.

Seems enormously towny

So we nolynch hari targets hellbooks, hellbooks targets one of hari/Olorin, and then we see what happens. I won't shoot

dunnstral... the mafia TWO shot vig....

[hellbooks]

Any objections?

if hari is scum this could be like a death knell but... sure. ya. i'm townreading her

[hellbooks]

i mean fuck it i'm willing to risk it. right. it seems fun

[hellbooks]

Oh no, that was like a joke. i think hari could be faking the claim (hence the big risk in the scenario where she kills me and say, fakes a guilty on olorin), olorin certainly isn't faking the claim but i could see it being a scum aspect maybe (is it setup-reasonable for olorin to be just a scum visitor inventor?), i think hari's rain dance thing has pretty significant town equity. i think the least likely thing here is for you to be a scum vig yea.

[hellbooks]

i got no result on olorin and received a visitor ability

[hellbooks]

so like what the fuck

[hellbooks]

and why is hari dead of all people

[hellbooks]

well i dont know my guy i haven't thought about it much

[hellbooks]

look if i wanted to give a no result i could simply have said innocent on hari

[hellbooks]

ok ya that makes sense

[hellbooks]

VOTE: olorin
ok take it away my dude

[hellbooks]

did i toss the game

[hellbooks]

hope i didnt toss the game.

[hellbooks]

dunn speak up! dont be shy

[hellbooks]

fuck me

[hellbooks]

what the hell was up with the vig thing then

[hellbooks]

well sorry about that, i accept full responsibility, etc

[hellbooks]

i imagine it would have happened to shake out that way regardless

[hellbooks]

yeah dunnstral gj

[hellbooks]

was i a reg cop

[hellbooks]

yea lmao -- sorry for shooting from the hip there. i was basically convinced dunn was clear which in hindsight, should have considered all the possibilities, esp with the "guilty"