Micro 969: Nomination Mafia 8p (Game over)

[DkKoba]

VOTE: a simple plan
i like complex plans tyvm

[DkKoba]

lets actually nl d1 and force scum to put us on odds what do yall think

[DkKoba]

No we're on evens rn.

[DkKoba]

normally id take a free townread but i have to be honest and say i know there are no nk and i was considering the mechanic the NK and having scum forced to pick first is +town EV

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Redcardinal

Serious vote that’s a scum opener 100%

redcardinal you know that someone said they serious voted you, and you had no response to that right?

also now I think I should reveal I knew that we can't NL I just wanted to get information on who was aware of this by proposing the strategy.


so what don't you like about it redcardinal? me correcting someone else's misconception of what I was saying is scummy? Why would i bother correcting this if my only goal is to obscure/be townread?

[DkKoba]

We'd have to all agree to not vote for anyone and that just sounds like a really boring way to get no advantage.

interesting that's your conclusion.

[DkKoba]

also redcardinal is at e-2 if im counting right. please be mindful

[DkKoba]

I think redcardinal is scummy but the wagon is worse.

u literally just worded what my vibe was lmfao. feels like a lhf wagon?

[DkKoba]

*sigh*

[DkKoba]

your premise is false so idk what to tell u. i considered the scum nom a nightkill we can control in a limited way.

i was probing for discussion that would lead us out of RVS. I knew before game started that we cannot NL. Seeing what people advocate for is good info. Scum will lean towards trying to push antitown strategy. I saw this firsthand in a recent completed game, where that was supporting evidence for a scumread I was correct on in Backrooms.

I was disappointed no one pointed out that NLing would remove the mechanic where scum MUST nominate themselves in LYLO.

[DkKoba]

So you have nothing to say about the person who said they serious voted you? Like thats seriously strange. Can you at least explain why you haven't said anything about it?

[DkKoba]

bbmolla do u have chat mafia experience

[DkKoba]

can we just ignore RC they're obviously just LHF who are going to distract us. i mean we could policy them but i'd rather get scum or someone I don't townread lmao

[DkKoba]

well I'm annoyed they're misrepping me but i realized if i argued with every bad faith player on this site I'll just get myself banned.

its early so what they've done so far is evidence for them being scum but tbh i get the vibe they're entitled town. like 65-35 on their town-scum ratio

[DkKoba]

redcardinal can u just consider that perhaps you have done things that give scummy vibes to ppl bc i got the same vibes too although i chose to interpret it a different way. like dont be entitled to being townread just explain urself and put ur thoughts on the table. letting scum have a free town push that can be easily explained away hurts us in the long run

[DkKoba]

can we just ignore RC they're obviously just LHF who are going to distract us. i mean we could policy them but i'd rather get scum or someone I don't townread lmao

distract you from what? Is there something I'm missing?

yeah ur missing the part where i rolled town

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

getting tunneled has the effect of clouding my reads in a negative way if its from town. although if scum tries to hardtunnel me it fucks them over bc i end up solving the game from my POV bad faith tunnels are in general a distraction bc the slot in question becomes 10x harder to read.

[DkKoba]

so you're saying leave it and let the read bloom naturally?

@Koba, re:LHF

yes if they do spew scum later on it will be with added info of better partner reads

[DkKoba]

can we just ignore RC they're obviously just LHF who are going to distract us. i mean we could policy them but i'd rather get scum or someone I don't townread lmao

distract you from what? Is there something I'm missing?

yeah ur missing the part where i rolled town

that's not an answer. what am I distracting from, exactly?

getting tunneled has the effect of clouding my reads in a negative way if its from town. although if scum tries to hardtunnel me it fucks them over bc i end up solving the game from my POV bad faith tunnels are in general a distraction bc the slot in question becomes 10x harder to read.

[DkKoba]

also i just got 66 strength in osrs from barb fishing on my ironman can i get a nice

[DkKoba]

me having a lot more to say makes me town. BB not having a lot more to say makes him scum. That's as clear as I can get bulge. At this point you're doing this on purpose

This doesn't make sense but I can see bbmolla being scum motivated pushing you.

[DkKoba]

I don't currently scumread anyone

[DkKoba]

me having a lot more to say makes me town. BB not having a lot more to say makes him scum. That's as clear as I can get bulge. At this point you're doing this on purpose

This doesn't make sense but I can see bbmolla being scum motivated pushing you.

you're not supposed to agree with me on that

why not ):

[DkKoba]

being busy irl =/= a scumtell

[DkKoba]

me having a lot more to say makes me town. BB not having a lot more to say makes him scum. That's as clear as I can get bulge. At this point you're doing this on purpose

This doesn't make sense but I can see bbmolla being scum motivated pushing you.

you're not supposed to agree with me on that

why not ):

because you're scum

you'll get to the right conclusion eventually i believe in you!

[DkKoba]

bbmolla do u have chat mafia experience

if epicmafia counts then yes

i recognized the style cheers I'm from that site too lmfao

[DkKoba]

wait u made those animated shorts about the roles years ago omfg those are fucking great.

[DkKoba]

can we just ignore RC they're obviously just LHF who are going to distract us. i mean we could policy them but i'd rather get scum or someone I don't townread lmao

Just saying, I don't recognize LHF as an acronym. I'm sorry for sounding dumb and I get the vibe of what you're saying, but..?

low hanging fruit

[DkKoba]

koba is town

let's eliminate cardinal already this game is fucking easy

I think redcardinal is scummy but the wagon is worse.

sick bro

give me more please you're going to be one of the more difficult reads in this game

Vaguely "town!bb" vibes off of this string. Nothing super solid, but getting a vibe of classic BB "every thought is a post" town play.

ngl as someone with chat mafia experience this shit can be fairly easily faked on forums with chat mafia experience like i'd like to see some scum!bb meta so i can see how they play.(we were never on epicmafia at the same time so i cant know how they played there)

[DkKoba]

i keep getting these page tops i need to be STOPPED

[DkKoba]

getting tunneled has the effect of clouding my reads in a negative way if its from town. although if scum tries to hardtunnel me it fucks them over bc i end up solving the game from my POV bad faith tunnels are in general a distraction bc the slot in question becomes 10x harder to read.

What? I would've guessed that it would benefit regardless then? I don't get it.

also i just got 66 strength in osrs from barb fishing on my ironman can i get a nice

Congrats. When I sign on I'm usually only pushing noncombats rn.

I don't currently scumread anyone

Do you have any substantial reads either way? Have these last 30+ posts changed anything?

1) if i get tunneled by town i tend to get a wrong solve bc of it bc i start missing key info or scum can obfuscate. dunno how to explain it just kinda happened in my recent games so yeah.

2) im going for 99 fishing im at 89 rn but working 70 hour work weeks is not doing well for my training ):

3) i am leaning RC town the most in all honesty. do i think they're a good player? no. but i do think they're town. i think bulge is prob-town. alonzo gives me bad vibes. molla I am also lightly suspicious of but they've switched off RC and are looking like they are looking for info. I'd like to see some content from Nona, hiraki's one line is good and +town but not enough to sort even lightly, and you im not sure yet.

[DkKoba]

koba is town

let's eliminate cardinal already this game is fucking easy

I think redcardinal is scummy but the wagon is worse.

sick bro

give me more please you're going to be one of the more difficult reads in this game

Vaguely "town!bb" vibes off of this string. Nothing super solid, but getting a vibe of classic BB "every thought is a post" town play.

ngl as someone with chat mafia experience this shit can be fairly easily faked on forums with chat mafia experience like i'd like to see some scum!bb meta so i can see how they play.(we were never on epicmafia at the same time so i cant know how they played there)

Fair enough. I've played Among Us and did a game IRL a while back, but haven't done any rapidfire/chat based that I can remember. Still seems fairly standard of his playstyle from what I remember some time back.

i just read a couple of their scum games and it does lack the type that was present here daystart but also 2 games is such a small sample size i wouldnt want ppl to use that as definitive proof. i would lean them town at least by occams razor atm.

[DkKoba]

with that i think its worth to put this here: VOTE: alonzo

[DkKoba]

thats E-2 ... once again(since molla switched vote)

[DkKoba]

:

well better cautious and prevent mafia from getting a plausible lolhammer that they can pretend to explain away

[DkKoba]

Alonzo what have you learned from your vote on RedCardinal that you decided to switch?

[DkKoba]

Also as expected RC is now more solidly towntelling in a way that people other than me can see.

A Simple Plan, I do vibe with that where I look at a post I made earlier and am like "wtf was this supposed to be??". (also TIL that I have scum paranoia when I am town. hate being scumread)

I think hiraki is being logical. is it towny? perhaps. but anyone can point out 2+2=4.

Nona can you explain why you are voting A Simple Plan? Actually more substantial things out of you would be helpful. Also while I'm on the subject, how do you feel about Alonzo? I'd like a concrete read from you even if it isn't a strong one.

[DkKoba]

What flailing? Can you quote it?

[DkKoba]

Don't defuse I want them to see what they are trying to frame as scum.


If anything is flailing behavior its the fact that alonzo revoted RC as soon as they got called by multiple people for switching votes. Shows a mindset of worrying about how others perceive them over wanting to solve.

[DkKoba]

Alonzo what have you learned from your vote on RedCardinal that you decided to switch?

I still think RC is a good vote, all that flailing is gonna get looked up eventually, why not today?

VOTE: redcardinal

why did you switch in the first place? can you answer that?

[DkKoba]

I don't wanna be choosing from RC /hakiri /+1 tomorrow particularly so..

Why lmao?

[DkKoba]

What are u on about?? Lol

[DkKoba]

can u explain ur reads tho

[DkKoba]

W h y

[DkKoba]

what makes me a question mark to u can u ellaborate. How did u conclude ur townleans?

[DkKoba]

Yeah i can be a bit of an ass when i think you're full of shit lol
Mostly bc ur avoiding explaining anything and just stating things instead of analyzing (:

[DkKoba]

Nona can you explain why you are voting A Simple Plan? Actually more substantial things out of you would be helpful. Also while I'm on the subject, how do you feel about Alonzo? I'd like a concrete read from you even if it isn't a strong one.

ASP was pushing RC earlier for what i think is just for playing town poorly.

I think I'm getting town vibes from Alonzo? i don't think scum posts 156

i dont think that post is AI why is it towny

[DkKoba]

but like let me get this straight:

ASP is scummy for voting RC

but Alonzo also voted RC for much poorer reasons.

how is alonzo a townlean here and ASP a scumread if this is the logic you are using?

[DkKoba]

yeah that explaination kinda stinks. I wanted to know why specifically THAT slot to switch to.

[DkKoba]

Okay, my townlean on Koba is weakening. I'll go into detail in the morning, but long story short, one of their posts directed something at me on page seven that has me less confident.

fake

[DkKoba]

bulge why are u still voting RC lol

[DkKoba]

I’m kind of good with where I am at the moment tbh

I mean i dont disagree with that slot beint scummy but what do u think abt alonzo

[DkKoba]

molla u got hammer between 2 ppl dont hammer sit ty

[DkKoba]

bulge can you explain your vote on ASP

[DkKoba]

but like let me get this straight:

ASP is scummy for voting RC

but Alonzo also voted RC for much poorer reasons.

how is alonzo a townlean here and ASP a scumread if this is the logic you are using?

It's a bit complicated but i like Alonzo's push more than ASP's

y doe

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Nona

[DkKoba]

im gonna be around so i got time. people being wagoned should be the first to pop theirs though

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Nona

Why though

I want to see something and i scumread nona too

[DkKoba]

I will not be around at deadline as it currently sits. I like the Alonzo lynch better because it gives us something to work with day two. A Nona flip will yield us little to no information regardless of alignment.

I think nona has spewed enough to give info with a red flip (: which it looks like it will be. regardless I'm looking to consolidate on alonzo

[DkKoba]

molla u got hammer between 2 ppl dont hammer sit ty

I’m here today chill

I’m very aware of deadline

Still like my vote

that's scummy

[DkKoba]

you like your vote but you're also not pushing anything to happen with it. this can be behavior of a scum player knowing that both wagons are town and are putting a vanity vote on their partner to potentially distance later on to pretend they "pushed" someone who will flip scum later on(bussing is 100% viable in a setup like this)

[DkKoba]

you like your vote but you're also not pushing anything to happen with it. this can be behavior of a scum player knowing that both wagons are town and are putting a vanity vote on their partner to potentially distance later on to pretend they "pushed" someone who will flip scum later on(bussing is 100% viable in a setup like this)

Nona does nothing and my wagon is tied for second

ok lol its fine when nona flips red we can flip u next for bussing

[DkKoba]

ugh actually idk.. im getting cold feet on reread of nona.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: alonzo

nona still has earlier plurality btw its 3-3

[DkKoba]

ugh actually idk.. im getting cold feet on reread of nona.

that was fast VOTE: DkKoba

u are bad at this game please just sheep me

[DkKoba]

i literally saved u from being miselimed and now u are pushing to elim me. just like think about what u are doing and how u are just playing reactive to recent events rather than taking the game in as a whole. changing ones mind on reread is not scummy

[DkKoba]

btw alonzo now is 3-2 with nona, and has primary plurality

[DkKoba]

I voted nona originally to try and see if bb would flinch, but when you claimed cold feet *that fast* on nona, especially because I don't even think you were voting nona because you think nona is scum, I think you were voting nona to get more info from nona through pressure and to see bb's reaction to it, that just seems like your motives are changing in a way I don't think townie's motives change.

i genuinely thought nona was scum. but im looking at bbmolla/alonzo scumteam rn if i had to give a solve.

you litearlly changed ur vote fast too dont give me that shit i can reread and change my mind
and also, re: your stupid ass assumption of why I voted:
STOP FUCKING ASSUMING WHAT I AM DOING AND LISTEN
I voted nona because i genuinely scumread them

[DkKoba]

ok i have to go to work now before i get more toxic ))))))))

[DkKoba]

i literally saved u from being miselimed and now u are pushing to elim me. just like think about what u are doing and how u are just playing reactive to recent events rather than taking the game in as a whole. changing ones mind on reread is not scummy

how do you know I'm town? Nobody other than the people already on my wagon really bought the case against me and I wasn't ever in any danger of being voted down. You know that and you're trying to buddy me.

if i had pushed you you were going to get voted out. I had that power. and there was every way to frame your play as scum play. stop trying to pretend like scum me is not going to get an easy scum looking player out of here like that.

[DkKoba]

oh my fucking god just literally do what you want i hope you get nommed tomorrow and town can policy your ass

[DkKoba]

you don't use logic you're just conf biasing. even you knew it was illogical to scumread me when I agreed with you and you said "you're not supposed to agree with me here"

as for manipulativeness I have a history on this SITE of being manipulative as town so don't even try to use that as evidence to scumread me. i hammered my townread in 5 way once just because i knew they would ruin 3 way if i was the hang(it was me vs them that day).

please don't be votato 2.0

[DkKoba]

i literally saved u from being miselimed and now u are pushing to elim me. just like think about what u are doing and how u are just playing reactive to recent events rather than taking the game in as a whole. changing ones mind on reread is not scummy

how do you know I'm town? Nobody other than the people already on my wagon really bought the case against me and I wasn't ever in any danger of being voted down. You know that and you're trying to buddy me.

if i had pushed you you were going to get voted out. I had that power. and there was every way to frame your play as scum play. stop trying to pretend like scum me is not going to get an easy scum looking player out of here like that.

yeah but here's the thing- I'm not an easy scum looking player. You're not the only person who townreads me, defending me from the hordes of mis-directed townies. You're scum, and if you're scum then nona's probably also scum

ok but u self for me if i get flipped ok? <3

[DkKoba]

im scum because of what?

im not even being manipulative this game you're literally just trying to assign things to me that are blatantly false and trying to tell me its scum motivated. you're working backwards, assigning me as scum and then working out how I could be scum. in all honesty that is literally by the book scum behavior and yet? i can still townread you.

[DkKoba]

where have i been manipulative?

[DkKoba]

Why did you pop that bulge? Do you townread Alonzo?

[DkKoba]

next person to vote me is confscum btw

[DkKoba]

where have i been manipulative?

I mean... How do I answer this without quoting 2/3 of your iso?

A few example should be easy then. Also is it scummy if it exists? Why is it scummy?

[DkKoba]

ur push on rc was hella scum LOL and u haven't explained why u thought theyre scum

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:
Lets talk

[DkKoba]

Fine. I do want to give u a chance bc the dead air has given me some anxiety wrt your hang and you've been more townier the more recent posts even tho u are kinda wrong

[DkKoba]

You can be town and wrong.

biggest obstacle to being able to accurately read people lol

[DkKoba]

bbmolla/alonzo solve is one i have been toying with in my head. felt like itd be .. too easy?

[DkKoba]

have u considered i have many many games of mafia experience and feel confident in my reads

[DkKoba]

ur at L-2 rn

[DkKoba]

also i think hiraki is locktown rn. thats like my most confident read rn.

[DkKoba]

never hang RC/Hiraki/Me and find at least 1 scum or another town and we win the game

[DkKoba]

im leaning town on BBMolla based on what they said earlier . I think Sona may be town?

ASP / Alonzo??

VOTE: ASP

lfg

[DkKoba]

don't say that Koba you're helping scum pick their trio homselice

ah fyuck i forgot was trying to not out that info i just woke up

[DkKoba]

I voted nona originally to try and see if bb would flinch, but when you claimed cold feet *that fast* on nona, especially because I don't even think you were voting nona because you think nona is scum, I think you were voting nona to get more info from nona through pressure and to see bb's reaction to it, that just seems like your motives are changing in a way I don't think townie's motives change.

is this how you'd expect mafia's motives to change? in what way do you think townies' motives change? best as you can describe it.

I think that if koba was town, they would have stayed on nona to continue pressuring bb and to get more out of nona. I believe that was what koba was going to say their intention for voting nona was, I believe this would have been town!koba's intention for voting nona, and so my read flipped real fast when they got off. Especially because of all the talk about bussing there from koba. If koba flips red we have a scum team with koba/nona.

please stop posting you keep making assumptions and its really annoying. honestly its tanking ur town cred and if ur nommed im yeeting u first chance i get as policy

[DkKoba]

sure just keep giving town a handicap by parking your vote on me bc i dont play the way u would and i am able to townread bad players

[DkKoba]

again with the assumptions of what im doing instead of asking me (((((:
im not in the mood to get hardtunneled the 5th game in a row

[DkKoba]

go fucking metadive me and tell me what town me wouldnt or would do ok? Like its so annoying im being distracted by this shitpush

[DkKoba]

I just realized my entire justification for voting koba was based on a koba/nona scumteam and honestly I have no idea how I didn't realize this. Anyways I haven't seen any justification for asp so here's my vote.

lol this is exactly what my nex tpost to u was gonna point out

[DkKoba]

im honestly lost and idk who is gonna flip scum i feel like i have a solid towncore but outside of that im unsure

[DkKoba]

Hiraki where are u at

[DkKoba]

one thing that is bothering me is that all the people im townreading the most are voting all over the place :/

[DkKoba]

one thing that is bothering me is that all the people im townreading the most are voting all over the place :/

townread me then, i tunnel

i think you're mafia by POE tho

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE: none of this makes sense the wagons dont add up im really fucking confused.

[DkKoba]

yes and the teams in my head don't make sense based on the wagons. there's bussing going on or smthing idk

[DkKoba]

Yeah iv reread. DKK /RC/ Hakiri contains 2scum and one who lacks wherewithal the hardest.

I could vote ASP defensively at this point but I don't feel like diluting my points.

trying to break up the townblock, big scum energy

[DkKoba]

mmm

i want to say alonzo is town and hanging in bbmola/bulge/asp is better but mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm my brain

[DkKoba]

why doe

[DkKoba]

alonzo has mostly just shaded people, voted around, and offered no analysis. I reread their ISO. I feel comfortable placing my vote there especially since their reads are complete opposite of mine.
VOTE: alonzo

[DkKoba]

alonzo has their own extension dont use it when they can use it for themselves.

[DkKoba]

when looking at alonzos iso i do see a distinct lack of analysis and just straight up shade of slots only. i want to make that clear

[DkKoba]

ya can u show where tho

[DkKoba]

://///

[DkKoba]

im here

[DkKoba]

declaring intent to not extend deadline

[DkKoba]

LMFAO VOTE: bbmolla[/b] epicmafia players will go for the wifom play everytime

[DkKoba]

VOTE: bbmolla

[DkKoba]

im actually really shocked neither RC or I made the list though

[DkKoba]

im actually really shocked neither RC or I made the list though

I'm not sure I believe this

bruh if ur actually gonna try to shade the person who was a) tunneled by alonzo, in a specific way to make it frame me as a weak bus and b) actually led the wagon onto him on d1.

u got something coming

[DkKoba]

Vote Count

Alonzo

(4): Hiraki, A Simple Plan, redcardinal, DkKoba

A Simple Plan

(2): The Bulge, BBmolla

DkKoba

(1): Alonzo

Not voting

(1): Nona

With 8 players alive, 5 votes on the same player were required to end the day early.
The deadline

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).

Alonzo

was eliminated on Day 1. They were a

Mafia Odd-Night Nominator

.

The Mafia will need to send in their nominations by 18:10 UTC on Monday 5 October (

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). Night will end earlier than this if

every living player

PMs me a request to end it early.

you were around during deadline. the nomination is clearly trying to frame ASP lmfao

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Hiraki

where is this coming from?

Feel like Cardinal had a few posts out there now and we should pressure others to contribute, can always revisit cardinal in a day or two if needs be.

are you reading? when was the redcardinal push ever about pushing for contributions? how is the rc wagon at all the same as pushing an inactive slot? ???

do u seriously not think its wifom if both RC AND me are not nommed lmfao

[DkKoba]

oops didnt mean to quote but ya

[DkKoba]

actually ur scummier than bbmolla VOTE: bulge

ur both in my poe

[DkKoba]

why is asp town?

bc they were pushing alonzo on D1? lmfao who the fuck busses their partner on DAY 1

[DkKoba]

why is asp town?

bc they were pushing alonzo on D1? lmfao who the fuck busses their partner on DAY 1

for all your wifom theories, I was expecting something stronger here

u trying to keep the lynchpool completely wide open is extremely scummy goodbye

get townreads that actually makes sense <3

[DkKoba]

why do u townread the other 2. u are not allowed to use the fact they were nommed as a reason

[DkKoba]

ok ellaborate

[DkKoba]

normally ppl get a poe via townreading the other slots so u saying the 2 others are town bc u have a hard sr somewhere else but u havent outted that hard scumread is not logical nor makes sense

[DkKoba]

u think 3/4 people on the alonzo wagon are scum. ok buddy

[DkKoba]

i dont have scum equity but keep making stuff up <3

[DkKoba]

choo choo perfect game ahead vote bulge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[DkKoba]

also bulge popped their extension when alonzo was about to be hanged the first time around

[DkKoba]

ok sure but lets just hang u for safety if all town is in the noms in that case according to u <3 should be easy enough

[DkKoba]

Vote Count

Alonzo

(3): Hiraki, A Simple Plan, DkKoba

A Simple Plan

(2): Nona, The Bulge

DkKoba

(2): Alonzo, redcardinal

Nona

(1): BBmolla

Not voting

(0):

nobody

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The deadline

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Sorry, shitty day. I'll be on later.

extend deadline

extend deadline

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Vote Count

Alonzo

(3): Hiraki, A Simple Plan, DkKoba

A Simple Plan

(2): Nona, The Bulge

DkKoba

(2): Alonzo, redcardinal

Nona

(1): BBmolla

Not voting

(0):

nobody

With 8 players alive, 5 votes on the same player are required to end the day early.
The deadline

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Why did you pop that bulge? Do you townread Alonzo?

[DkKoba]

its ok u townread the other 2 ppl we can just policy u <3

[DkKoba]

remember?

[DkKoba]

hiraki is locktown dont elim them lmfao

[DkKoba]

scum asf trying to not vote in a good poe

[DkKoba]

id townread bulge more if they just said they really townread alonzo rather than pretend like they had no read on them

[DkKoba]

the logic of
null read > pop extension is not logical


townread> pop extension does make sense

if i have a null read id make THEM use their extension first.

[DkKoba]

can we just finish this game already and get bulge out of here

[DkKoba]

Vote Count

Alonzo

(4): Hiraki, A Simple Plan, redcardinal, DkKoba

A Simple Plan

(2): The Bulge, BBmolla

DkKoba

(1): Alonzo

Not voting

(1): Nona

With 8 players alive, 5 votes on the same player were required to end the day early.
The deadline

expired

at 18:00 UTC on Saturday 3 October (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2020-10-03 18:00:00)

).

Alonzo

was eliminated on Day 1. They were a

Mafia Odd-Night Nominator

.

The Mafia will need to send in their nominations by 18:10 UTC on Monday 5 October (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2020-10-05 18:10:00)

). Night will end earlier than this if

every living player

PMs me a request to end it early.

If we're playing this based on the final votecount of D1, here's where I'm at:

RC is one of the more confidently town left, a much as I disliked her playstyle early on.
Hiraki I'm pretty confident is town. Sat on the Alonzo wagon a long time. Highly doubt that comes from a partner in this case.
I would be equally confident in Koba if it weren't for Alonzo's vote on them. That leads to a second of pause for the shade bus sort of reasons.

I'm looking at the other half. Honestly I'm curious about both folks on my wagon since Nona voting me would've made it a one vote swing to save Alonzo and eliminate me instead, but I don't consider Nona safe by any means.

vote

[DkKoba]

can we just hurry up lol

[DkKoba]

just vote if ur worrried we're wrongwe can talk on d3 abt it

[DkKoba]

the safest scumplay would be a dead redcardinal for me tbh

same. Nom you me and rc and easy policy lol

[DkKoba]

gg i was maf

[DkKoba]

end the game plsss

[DkKoba]

we know bulge was scum lets get the dub so i can share this game with ppl

[DkKoba]

bulge is online hello tell us we won ty <3

[DkKoba]

sorry i never got to reread, life has been taking big shits on me the last week or so

nona probscum could be koba idk about asp anymore who cares do your own research

pce

we're not using ur reads lol u literally tried to save alonzo

[DkKoba]

its ok we just get bbmolla d3. game is solved p much im confident in my towncore of RC/hiraki

[DkKoba]

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[DkKoba]

and yeah im a little annoyed at u since u literally were playing like u were alonzo's partner. who tf extends deadline on someone else and then claims they null read them thats just scummy as fk. like idk man i mighta townread u if u : werent trying to break up a towncore, explained the reasoning behind ur actions wrt alonzo, actually had townreads that made sense after someone flipped scum, etc. i was 90% sure u were flipping scum and the other 10% is bbmolla bc wifom play and also they were off the alonzo wagon. occams razor kicks in at some point

[DkKoba]

also some irl stuff making me more irritable

[DkKoba]

its ok we just get bbmolla d3. game is solved p much im confident in my towncore of RC/hiraki

im not voting bbmolla day 3 FYI, i am rereading though

i dont know why you actually think there had to be scum in that little grouping? am i missing a rule or something?

both bulge and bbmolla are in my primary poe so i assumed it was wifom to make us think scum was nominatedand that you were the scum and this was furhter confirmed by their immediate push onto you

[DkKoba]

VOTE: bbmolla

speedgame

[DkKoba]

im feeling much better of a elimpool of (DkKoba, ASP, and Nona) tbh

fuck off

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Hiraki

read the game sometime thx

[DkKoba]

my case on molla is stronger than ur case on me

[DkKoba]

its literally scum behavior to try to break up any townblock. a townblock is a threat to scum.

but nice job breaking it up ur self bc ur so fucking good

[DkKoba]

that line u quoted is litearlly a scummy line idk why u think thats good theyre trying to push u to be elim'd but not in an aggressive way to be complacent. i went with bulge bc the overwhelming evidence showed him as scumparnters with alonzo.

[DkKoba]

alonzo

i was the first person to vote alonzo btw so get out of here with that . someoen said hiraki was earlier or smthing?/

and im gonna bring attention to alonzo on DAY 1. push him until he spews scum, back off a little out of paranoia bc it feels too easy, and then force his elim in the end? yea sure

[DkKoba]

Koba can you explain why you got off the alonzo wagon and voted nona back then?

bc i wanted to get alonzo to spew more. if u just turbohang scum d1 u get nothing. if u give them hope they will spew

[DkKoba]

Koba can you explain why you got off the alonzo wagon and voted nona back then?

bc i wanted to get alonzo to spew more. if u just turbohang scum d1 u get nothing. if u give them hope they will spew

You said earlier you did it out of paranoia that it was too easy

What i say and what i mean are different things i cant tell mafia my intentions lol

[DkKoba]

Anyone who voted Bulge over Me yesterday and is now voting me today is bad

remember ur interactions with alonzo?

[DkKoba]

I think asp is a good elim

[DkKoba]

im getting drunk tonight get ready for drunkkoba reads

[DkKoba]

but like let me get this straight:

ASP is scummy for voting RC

but Alonzo also voted RC for much poorer reasons.

how is alonzo a townlean here and ASP a scumread if this is the logic you are using?

It's a bit complicated but i like Alonzo's push more than ASP's

y doe

I don't fully get ASP's scumread on RC.

Alonzo's read and push on RC isn't exactly ideal... But I'm having a hard time imagining that scum would push LHF that way

I'm not against an Alonzo wagon but I think an ASP wagon would be more interesting

nona any reason u never voted alonzo?

[DkKoba]

but y nona. Why was asp better

[DkKoba]

i want more elaboration on thought process

[DkKoba]

Also just realized its hilarious that mafia even nommed bulge considering hed be elimed today if he wasnt nommed

[DkKoba]

well i thought he was flipping scum yesterday so i wasnt thinking abt that at all

[DkKoba]

I never thought bulge was flipping scum so maybe that's where I don't understand ya'll

y doe

[DkKoba]

yall its been 12 hours

[DkKoba]

Nona is contributed next to nothing in this game and y'all still wanna eliminate someone who was on the nomination on Day 2

got nothing to say tbh

lol? why is inactivity scummy?

[DkKoba]

give me one reason that bb puts himself in the nomination yesterday as scum - no, me making this argument is not a reason

wifom play? Lmfao. Your logic is kinda uh bad.

[DkKoba]

Nona is contributed next to nothing in this game and y'all still wanna eliminate someone who was on the nomination on Day 2

got nothing to say tbh

lol? why is inactivity scummy?

it's not inactivity, it's the lack of activity

inactivity is if someone is legitimately doing nothing, nona is playing a very calculated game atm

nona is literally prod-dodging at points, tried to brush off the alonzo wagon at multiple points without actively being for or against it, and at least has the sense to call bb town (this is important because D1 nona went 100% into bbmolla and now he's town because of yesterday?) because nona knows it goes into a town flip

it is textbook scumplay to survive for awhile before pouncing into the game and becoming loud in the late game

No its not? How?

[DkKoba]

Nona stop throwing

[DkKoba]

disallowing us to have better wagon analysis via selfing is throwing and if yr scum thats disrespectful to ur partner to force loss

[DkKoba]

I think hirakis logic is slipping. I do not find their explaination of their reads as towny or logical.

[DkKoba]

Nona please unvote

[DkKoba]

bc it is. You claimed something NAI is scummy which is scummy in of itself. Look at my case on alonzo b4 i place my final vote down on him vs your case

[DkKoba]

On nona

[DkKoba]

hi

[DkKoba]

i think ur slot is town

[DkKoba]

Idk where I lean rn as I only had Bulge town, but I think you sound town too. I'm leaning ASP being the scum.

theres an argument for this, ive gone thru it in my head but didnt wanna have it affect nom day

[DkKoba]

Yes let’s elim a simple plan

???

[DkKoba]

im hammersitting

[DkKoba]

wait its asp lol
VOTE: asp ill explain later but im an idiot

[DkKoba]

bruv alonzo literally refused to vote u lol

[DkKoba]

that literally just suggests that RC is town

[DkKoba]

also im going through every possibility. right now ive mainly just eliminated Nona slot + RC slot from being scum atm. but I am trying to dissect everyones logic so we can get a solid PoE. (although we really only need a solid townblock of 2 people with the mechs cause scum cant force us to break that apart to win but winner sooner is cooler!)

[DkKoba]

fuck me i didnt realize deadline was so soon

[DkKoba]

bold of them to assume id abandon a townblock.
unfortunately i do townread creature over RC

[DkKoba]

VOTE: RC

[DkKoba]

i am sorry asp i didnt scumread u i was just trying to get more info and was used to regular deadlines and lost track of the time

[DkKoba]

also i juat finished modding a game that had nearly 10k posts bc my home site is a bunch of spammers

[DkKoba]

Thats not including the graveyard threads

[DkKoba]

molla's stalling, intent to hammer

there's not a world where I am scum and not in this trio today

sure then the solve is hiraki

[DkKoba]

koba would you vote molla tomorrow on my town flip?

Honestly im just vibing

[DkKoba]

Idrc what the order is - Creature -> DkKoba is the gamesolve here

Creature saying that I am just "here" is a flat out lie - I've done a lot in this game to make sure that my reads are heard.

ur logic has only gotten weaker and weaker as the game has went on.

literally voting u out day 4.


also rereading even more mad that ASP didnt extend deadline

[DkKoba]

im sorry meant day 5

[DkKoba]

creature is basically conf town with this nomination so i dont want to hear it

[DkKoba]

asp had a scumread on RC and i personally townread Creature based on reaction moreso than RC so im voting here