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Post #40 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:40 pm
Postby mothrax »
I don't troll. My vote is the most substantive it can be on page one. Pala's reaction to CE is meh. Not a fan. End of story. That the scummiest thing that has happened so far and so it deserves my vote.
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Post #97 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:49 am
Postby mothrax »
Hmmmm. Very very interesting.
Question: I haven't played in like two years and micros weren't a thing. What's the likely ratio were looking at? 2/7? 3/6?
I don't like Pala immediately sheeping bork... Not one bit said the spider to the fly. Especially after she names two other scumspects in the same post.
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Post #107 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:05 am
Postby mothrax »
Up to this point you had three posts, two of which were saying "I'll get to this later" and the third was calling someone town. Correct me if I'm wrong but the object of the game is scum hunting, right? If you aren't doing that I don't see much contribution going on. Loving the omgus tho.
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Post #110 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:34 am
Postby mothrax »
Ummm. I called you out as soon as you "posted". Remember that? You just quoted it... I was satisfied with Palas responses and was ready to move on to my next scumspect.
Town hunting=lets tell the scum who to nk. Theory discussions aside and let's pretend I'm ok with that strategy for a moment. One sentence posts saying x is town =\= townhunting. Just saying.
As for me being intimidated or freaking out, please, I've put up with far worse. Bullying may be a valid tactic in your eyes but your going to have to try a lot harder to scare me. I've played with your type before. You aren't quality posters so you try to force your will through abrasive ness. I'm over it. Now, if your really town (big if) sit back, take a big breath and learn to play with the big boys. Tell me why you have your reads, do something other than make blanket statements without supporting them because that is in no way shape or form pro town.
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Post #112 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:52 am
Postby mothrax »
Quality of posting and personal attacks aside, a townspersons job is to not only find scum but convince the resto f the town that they are scum. Just saying x,x,x, and x are town so z must be scum isn't very convincing.
And I've done my homework. I know there wasn't much time but I was done questioning Pala, I had already established I wasn't satisfied with your play. It makes sense that I would head to the next player. I found you scummy from your third post. Thus, I voted for you. Now, you are posting and we are getting somewhere.
You are super overreacting to one vote but I'm ok with that because it means you are actually contributing, and it means I'm gonna get a clearer read. Two things can happen here: you can affirm my suspicions and dig yourself deeper, or you can change my mind and convince me you're town. Either way is good because it means I can either push harder for your lynch, or I can pack off and follow my next lead. It's a win win.
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Post #117 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:15 am
Postby mothrax »
Like I said, active lurking, and a lack of reasoning for reads.
That person with the 2010 join date took an 18 month sebatical. Do your homework. You will notice my last completed game was Mafia Personality, run by Vi, quite some time ago.
And when I said personal attacks etc. asside, I meant that I was done going back and forth with you over stupid crap that didn't pertain to this game. I'm not pulling back from calling you scummy, I'm not pulling back from my original reasoning for doing so, but I'm not going to argue about how well you play the game, or whatever it may be about you personally that I find annoying, this isn't the time or the place and it just distracts from the game.
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Post #123 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:38 am
Postby mothrax »
Active lurking: posting without content, contribution. Things like "I will catch up on this later" etc.
Note: you came out to play when someone attacked you and you're playing a heck of a lot of defense. Who other than me is scummy? Do you have any other actual reads other than me being scummy for pushing you?
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Post #131 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:00 pm
Postby mothrax »
@e the never mind was to the statement about Pala sheeping. I had posts confused and realized that that statement was false. I'm still curious about ratios. Like I said I would guess 2/7 or 3/6 is the norm.
The reason I asked that is because interaction is a big part of my read process. It makes it much easier to gauge that when I have an idea of who to look for. As for me being economical with words, it's not really the case in general. I'm a wordy sob.
And I didn't explain my vote because I wanted to get some discussion going. Nothing had been happening up to this point and if I have to make myself look a little scummier to jump start conversations so be it. Stagnant games are bad for town. So yeah, it was reaction testing.
Elvis, where art thou? I want your opinions on all this.
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Post #137 (isolation #21) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:18 pm
Postby mothrax »
@ek I already explained why I voted without reasoning. You wanted a reaction test, you announced it making it harder for you to pull off. I was perfectly happy to grant your wish.
That said: I'm done with jiffy. I'm content with my read on him now that he is posting, and wisdom seems to know what he's talking about. Time to check some other people out.
unvote
Pedit: read it. It said something to the effect of "add vt/goon for balance did it not. This particular setup would most likely be 2/7 because of the given power roles, but I was also curious in general. Micros didn't exist in my day.
In post 151, mothrax wrote:Hey Majiffy. I don't have to insult you to get my point across and I would appreciate it if you would give me the same respect.
You can have my respect when you earn it. So far, all I've heard from you is dumb.
Seriously? We have different play styles and different theory opinions. I'm going to ask you again. Please do not continue to insult me. It is unnecessary and takes the enjoyment out of the game and I'm not ok with that. This is after all a game.
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Post #158 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:44 pm
Postby mothrax »
Keep in mind I'm also used to large themes. I played in mostly reckamonic and vi games when I was here last. I think the adjustment is factor. And I've never seen that side presented to me before, I srsly remember being told not to give away all my town reads. Considering someone super town is helpful yes, but like I said it gives scum an idea of who they can't get lynched.
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Post #198 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:05 am
Postby mothrax »
I'm stating intent to hammer here. I will when the time comes but I have more to say before the day ends, just not when I'm phone posting. I also second the call for more CE posting.
Don't like mothrax stating intent so early in the game.
Why?
Because there's still discussion to be had, and it looks like he's trying to stifle it. Pretty sure I already said that somewhere, but whatever.
In post 263, elvis_knits wrote:Like in my opinion the reason you unvote is that somebody does not seem scummy to you. You don't unvote or doubt a wagon because other people have started agreeing with you.
Maybe you should vote Pala with me, then.
Thank you EK. Stating intent to hammer wasn't me saying hey guys I'm gonna hammer in 24 hours. It was me saying, hey I agree that xerg is scummy and I'm willing to hammer when the time comes. It lets the rest of the wagon know that they don't have one of those wagons that runs up to l-1 and then dies off. I wasn't ready to end the day either and wouldn't have until discussion was done. Or without a claim from xerg.
That said I did think I posted something to this note while I was drunk but I must not have.
I still think xerg is scummy, especially since the points against him were active lurking and popping on when he was called out. He did the same thing. Got put at l-1 and comes in and walls definsively until people get distracted. Note, now that he's out of the spot lite... (Heis V/la) so that not much of a tell.
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Post #395 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:11 am
Postby mothrax »
Also, Pala is town. Noob town, but town. I like Jakes posting. I'm not sure where all the wisdom hate came from, Seems townish to me but I could be missing something.
Not sure how CE hasn't been replaced, he's posted less than me and that's saying something
I'm happy with my vote though.
PEdit: I coasted because I had a 40 page paper worth 80% of my final grade due this week. I got farther behind than I intended and phone posting wasn't going to cut it.
I had some things to say about xeg but also wanted answers to my CE question which got ignored.and I wanted more posting in general from the lurker slots.
Also, you never had an issue with my intent to hammer post when it happened. Why now?
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Post #398 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:20 am
Postby mothrax »
I've had a gut town read on wisdom all game. He's asked some good questions and been fairly active in identifying reads. That said, I haven't isod him, that was next on my to do list.
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Post #400 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:27 am
Postby mothrax »
I have no qualms lynching CE today. I would rather him be replaced, but if it comes down to it if we're going to no lynch because we can't agree I would rather lynch a lurker.
I don't like this game because everyone looks townish to me right now with the exception of xeg. Some less than others but still.
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Post #522 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:14 pm
Postby mothrax »
Welcome replacements.
Xeg, EK had raised some points about you prior to my post, and yes, I was counting the active lurking and popping in to play defense as two separate things. I still find it interesting that you can in and have done little but play defense since you got in.
Deadline is soon. I think we are going to have to compromise to avoid a no lynch.
So allow me at this juncture to say I would be willing to compromise with bork, but I won't be voting wisdom today.
Bork has been fluff posting, and many of books posts strike me as an attempt at appeasement.
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Post #531 (isolation #42) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:40 pm
Postby mothrax »
I disagree, bork. "What a journey"?
And the posts I pointed out were all either super weak on content or "needs moar activities" which at this point is pointless. You can say it as many times, and yes it's true but at this point it's just inflating your post count to appear active.
Jake: like I said, I have a gut town read on Wisdom. That's deteriorating over the last few pages, but not fast enough for me to vote him today.
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Post #625 (isolation #44) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:33 am
Postby mothrax »
Xeg, I told you, I'm counting the lurking and the coming in and playing defensively as two separate things.
As for me saying I responded to something when I didn't, I thought I had, but apparently drunk me typed out a post the. Deleted it. That was the night I didn't sleep an ant to work at 3am...
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Post #799 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:24 am
Postby mothrax »
Mithras is reading along and commenting when needed. His laptop crashed so he is limited to phone posting for a bit. He's also ending the semester and has several assignments due. That said I'm around. As for the last few pages, were going in circles. Nothing has really been said that needs commenting on other than Jiffy's sudden hop onto a non competitive wagon a day before deadline.
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Post #937 (isolation #50) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:24 am
Postby mothrax »
What elephant? Xeg got lynched. We don't know the flip yet, so there's not much to go on. And no, I don't trust twilight claims.
I think Xegs self vote was idiotic, and see no real motivation behind it, but what's the point of drawing that put?
Jiffy's play in the last part of this day makes me want to look a bit more into him however.
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Post #939 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:26 am
Postby mothrax »
Your welcome. Generally when I don't respond to something it means what I ghave to say has been said, and I don't feel like cluttering the thread with "I agree blah blah blah." When I have something to add, I add it.
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Post #1112 (isolation #56) » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:53 am
Postby mothrax »
To explain what I said about jiffy:
Jiffy doesn't strike me as the type of player who would create that much Wifom for Wifom's sake. I don't think he would kill chkflip, especially because jiffy seems to like conflict and that was his number one source of conflict, so I don't think jiffyscum would have done that.
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Post #1113 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:04 am
Postby mothrax »
Oh yeah. I don't like jake calling wisdom Confscum from the xeg flip. The whole dueling wagon thing is pretty null. Scum can push lynches on two desperate townies too.
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Post #1137 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:33 am
Postby mothrax »
Macy's townread on me downgraded because of something I said then claimed to be waiting for my explanation but made several statements that seem to show the contrary. In other words, circle talking and tripping over a coverup.